everything you said about porzingis' weaknesses was already true for Rob and Al, but they managed to hold their own as a team defensively. At least porzingis combines their strengths, actually does better as a pick and roll defender and hasn't lost a step like Al. Their defense that "carried" them to the finals was completely eviscerated by the warriors, wouldn't say they're that much different now. ANY celtics fan can tell you that while Smart was their best passer, he was an unremarkable PG due to his poor decision making and his inability to create for himself consistently. They don't need one person to pass, they need to get better at moving the ball as a team, especially Tatum and Brown. Like you mentioned, adding porzingis as a post passer achieves a similar objective, but ultimately its going to come down to their best players learning to swing the ball earlier.
The Celtics' defense wasn't obliterated by the Warriors. The Warriors barely managed over 100 ppg. The problem was the offense. They need an off-the-dribble creator, not a big man scorer. And Horford, despite "losing a step," is still far more mobile than Porzingis ever has been. Porzingis is a drop defender. Boston's defense is going to take a step back with the loss of Smart and Porzingis's lack of flexibility.
The warriors didn't score over 110 in that entire series, and that was with a ton of extra possessions off of turnovers. Would feel better about this trade if they had gotten tyus jones in the deal as well which they probably were targeting after the brogdon deal fell through. Cs perimeter defense was atrocious last season and Kristaps won't help in that regard, but maybe will help rim protection since Rob didn't move/jump nearly as well last season vs the year before. Losing smart overall hurts, because brogdon was bad on defense most of the season and was out of position a lot, where smart is more versatile and moves better than brogdon does. Getting another viable backup wing that is a defensive stopper/offensive rebounder would be huge, because Mazzulla didn't want to play hauser in the playoffs for some reason, so spelling the Jays with an elite defender and adding one more ball mover could put this roster over the top
yea tbh i feel like this is such a pessimistic take. like sure there are concerns but throwing away the "they got the much better player" argument for the "the fit might not be perfect" is a little inflammatory. calling porzingis a massive liability on defense is straight up false. one of the best drop bigs in the league. sure he plays a similar role to rob, but if at least one of them is healthy it's fine
Basically saying porzingis development is a fluke. Also Boston hasn’t been switch everything in a while they mostly play drop which porzingis excels in. Boston were at their best last year when they were a #2 offense and defense. They just got better
Right lol. He said something like “if you look at some of his post up numbers you can see he added a little bit to his game and was a little more punishing at times”… talking like he wasn’t the 2nd most efficient player in the post behind Jokic last season. Just down playing KPs post game development.
They were never a #2 Defensive team last season despite league ranking their defensive effectiveness was poor all year long and teams routinely had their way against them offensively…!!!! I don’t know why people are actually saying that they were #2 Defense because if you didn’t pay attention to leagues rankings and you watched Boston Defensively you knew that was bogus…!!!!
If those are the worst negatives than I think the C’s can live with that. Kristaps was serviceable last year on defense, was one of the top centers in P&R defense. They’ve been playing drop coverage for the most part anyway I don’t think that changes this season. Celtics just need to load manage the crap out of Rob, Al, and Porzingis, each should probably play around 60, no more than 65, games next season. Smart was a tough loss, was probably their best “PG” but he was sloppy with the ball, too many turnovers. White should fill in for Smart pretty nicely, less turnover prone and was second team All-Defense last year. White got barely any burn in 4th quarters or at the end of games which was pretty wild since he was their 3rd best player. Brogdon situation might be a little weird since he was pretty much traded until the Clippers backed out last minute. I think he’s professional enough to understand that the NBA is a business. He kinda did it to himself by being part of the negotiations of the new CBA. But, I expect him to make a leap from year 1 to 2 with the Celtics just like White did. Unless, Brad really does have a solid trade and he’s not there before the season starts. Lastly, Mazzulla has a year under his belt and his own coaching staff. I mean he went from the second row the HC chair right before media day, lost two top assistants in Hardy and Stoudamire and they didn’t hire anyone of significance to help ease the pressure. Cassell is a veteran coach that can help immensely and Charles Lee should help tighten up their defense.
@@JaAr-iw5os better than White? He was second team All-Defense last season and won Eastern Conference Player of the Week during a stretch when Marcus was out.
Porzingis from the high post or the top of the key can run plays for both Tatum and Brown. He did it all the time with Beal and Kuzma in Washington. On top of that, his defense is better than you are giving him credit for. While it isn’t his primary strength, Porzingis has the sheer length to contest perimeter shooters off the switch at an above-average level. He’s also extremely adept in drop coverage, holding the midrange and driving lanes hostage with the ability to step up or back to contest other shots. The fit with Williams is awkward, but not to the level implied here. He played fine alongside Taj Gibson and Daniel Gafford, who also aren’t super mobile. Also, the comparison to Dallas isn’t good imo because Jason Kidd ran very few sets for Porzingis and tried to take him away from the action in favor of Luka. He was made to play like he was Davis Bertans. I enjoy the idea of more breakdown/play-by-play stuff, though. Some definite good points, but a bit overblown.
With all due respect you hava few key misunderstandings: 1. You misunderstand Rob Williams' defense. Rob even under Ime Udoka was at his best not at his best as a traditional rim defender, he was a roaming help defender at the rim. Thats why the double big lineups worked. Porzingis is a drop defense rim degender as you mentioned and now he will have Rob Williams as hos help defender whixh means he can afford to be more aggressive on defense. 2. Smart was the best passer but not the best playmaker as he often made ridiculous mistakes and was one of the worst starting PG's in the league in transition. He also lacked the respect from defenders thus didn't have the gravity to draw defenders to him to create open shots for others 3. Tatum was a much better playmaker last year than anyone else on the team. There is a reason the Celtics went to him in clutch situations last year and while he took big strides giving him Porzingis which will give him multiple options of plays to run on offense such as Pick and Rolls and big man with an efficient post game to just dump the ball to if a play breaks down (as happened multiple times last season) should help him even more. 4. Injuries yes are a concern but they now have three bigs they can turns giving days off to in order to load manage
Celtics werw practically unable to work out of then post for years, they had no effective post players, nevermind good passers out of the post. Porzingas is highly effective in the post, 2nd most point per post up last year behind Jokic. This gives them the abiliy to actually break down and punish zone defenses that have been their achilles heel on offense. I like the trade a lot.
Honestly creator of this video can't move on from the time udoka team where they've been tremendous in defense. It will never be the same again no matter what the Celtics do coz there's a new coach and a new system. Mazulla is an offensive minded guy. So stop with the jib jab jabadoo. Porzingis is in Celtics for offense that's it. Period.
I agree with you, That defense was legit but the same offensive problems were there with Ime. When the offense failed the defense kept them in it. Playoffs and regular season are different. You need scoring. The C's offense was awesome to start the year and no one was crying defense until the offense starting doing what it has done every year. Fall of a cliff more games than not. Let those guys cook on offense and change the defense. You do not have to switch every play. Change it up. Allow PP, Hauser to play. I'm not mad MS got traded, Change was needed. 7 years of losing. I still believe Montrez Harrell would be a great cheap pick up.go C's
This video is what happens when you have to make a over the top reactionary video to every NBA headline lol. Your entire channel is just knee jerk reactions trying to clickbait.
Your concerns are head scratching. Porzingis has an elite game outside and inside the paint...and continues to improve. The NBA tracking data is clear on that. Defensively, he was one of the best rim protectors and shot blockers in the league. May be you should watch the March 29th game between Washington and Boston. He was option 1 for Washington scoring 32, 13 rebounds, 6 assists plus more. He was unstoppable. In terms of showcasing his skills...Boston needs to speed up the game and move the ball. His health is just fine. I don't hear other teams constantly talking trash about their players health. Anthony Davis has not played a full season due to injuries since coming to the NBA; K Leonard has missed more games since his San Antonio injury than most other players; let's not overlook J Embeid, P George, Zion, and a long list of others. It is about time that folks like you see the glass half full. This narrative is frankly boring.
The main thing I Learned from this video is that robs injury really hurt him/ he hasn’t been as confident since. It could be the coaching but his overall defense has been ok, not scary like before the injury.
I've never seen someone so smart and so dumb at the same time. Remember how good our offense was at the beginning of last year? Yeah... We're finally realizing our mistake in thinking we need an awesome defense to win. And yet this will still be a pretty okay defense at worst. D white was actually a better defender than Smart last year. And double rim protection is just brutal, especially when you have to adjust to multiple types of bigs.
The biggest problem was Mazzu didn't have a clue who to play or when. I know he was thrown into the fire on short notice so he better have figured out players and rotations this year. Honestly the switching everything defense did not work because teams were getting wide open shots way too much. This defense doesn't allow PP, SamH, Kornet, Muscala that's gone now to get any real chance of playing in this system. The C's have very good defensive players so they still should be good. Please build a real offense, Seven years of the same bs jacking up shots from three's and outside. Get some inside game, Ball movement, cuts. RW, AL, JT, start now on post play instead of only working on 3's. RW shoot the dmn ball, get some inside game. Same game four years later😂. A lot to work on to get better.
He’s a better perimeter defender than smart, but he is awful when switched onto forwards. He’s not the same White from SA that was tasked and succeeded a lot of times in locking up forwards. Theirs a reason why in all of the Miami series Jimmy was trying to stay away from Marcus and always took the Derrick matchup
@@rolandsj8880 you clearly didn’t watch mavs games. Your thinking of his final playoff series with Dallas where yes, Carlisle put him in the corner because that’s all he could do. He was failing that bad.
As a Dallas Maverick fan I remember how excited I was when we got the unicorn. I also realized how awesome it was going to be to see the pick and pops and the good rim protection from him. Sadly things just didn't work out for us it happens, but I think that him joining the Celtics will just be as disappointing as it was when he joined the Mavericks.
Acting like the Wizards have a single player in their starting 5 that is on the same level defensively as what the Celtics have is wild. Porzingis will have significantly better players around him.. offensively and defensively even without smart
All of these talented players but no heart like Smart 💔 Looks like everyone is gonna learn Defense 101 again because their offense will carry but will it be enough???
This is boom or bust tbh trading smart makes other players (tatum brown horford) have to take the identity and recreate it because smart was that, but if we get the perfect scenario with a double big KP and RW and JB JT and a point guard in (someone that passes like smart) this team is intriguing could easily be an nba great team, but this could also go bad and have Boston as a play in
I think he could make them a little less reliant on the 3 point shot wich should be pretty good. Hope it works out for them after all these years with this core
The defensive rating when Horford and Williams were on the court was the highest. I don't see how that doesn't work with Porzingis. Even if Williams and Porzingis are clunky what are the odds they both over invest. One could come over and help after the other gets out of place or even Tatum filling gaps. White Brown Tatum Porzingis Williams is going to be tough set.
You certainly can put Rob Williams and Porzingis on the court somewhere, like directly in the starting rotation. Celtics sizing up to face Denver. not Golden State
Everybody does not love this trade. Boston media has been ridiculously lukewarm and they much like you are clueless in their assessment. Forget the trade even is for KP, removing Marcus smart from this team is a win in and of itself. He’s hamstrung nearly every aspect of Celtics basketball the last three years. He’s doesn’t make us better and his best attribute defense is a negative at this point. It is crazy talk to not Understand his removal plus kp isn’t an incredible changeover. And I don’t want to hear about health because though Marcus plays we excuse his poor play for about two months every season due to his being beaten up. I don’t think that’s been any more valuable tbh. I think Boston media is gonna look absolutely ridiculous when this team takes the floor.
The problem with Rob is he can't be counted on to be healthy, and really hasn't returned to his peak of 2 years ago. The hope is, between Porzingas, Rob Williams, and Al ( who won't play back to backs), there's at least one healthy big every night.
Nice try citing the pros and cons of the trade. The deficiencies and strengths are two sides of the same coin. Rewards are based on risks and that is a management function. You failed to include the coaching factor, and that is part of management function. The Celtics is an organization and the Porzingis trade is management's decision. If Boston fails, what is it you? You're not part of the Boston Celtics organization and you cannot be blamed for the trade.
Like the move better pnr option than Williams and horford. Maybe they keep Pritchard as 3rd guard retain grant Williams. Doesn't make their team worst but most importantly gives them flexibility when it come to jaylen brown extension plus 2 first round picks
Very interesting insights towards the end of the video. So you believe that KP’s offensive versatility showcase was more of a fluke than an improvement of his skill? If KP is relegated to just standing on the perimeter then this trade is going to end up pretty bad lol
I also don't see this work at all. Really confused with the fit. Offensively it's gonna be great for sure, but they're really going to have to gameplan a defensive strat with Zingis and I don't see Mazzulla doing that tbh. Marcus was the heart of that defense. I know Zingis wasn't injured much last year, but I see him getting injured in a switch heavy defense liek that of the Celtics.
Let's not get it twisted, smart was a good defensive player this year but no where near is DPOY year. His bone fouling Trea in playoffs shows that. Celts can pick up Beverly who plays very good D and pass the ball and would be cheaper but fills everything smart did. Beverly, Pritchard and brogdon with white is what I'm calling
@@brandonlibby9743 That would not be a bad idea actually. I also think Brogdon could be a very good starter anyway. He's a better point and a good defender. My problem is mainly Zingis and how that frontcourt defense is gonna look.
They will play drop more…. And he is 7’3”. If zingis is in with timelord the interior defense becomes very good already. Tatum, Brown, white, and brogdon are all great on all defenders. Idk how adding a pretty agile long 7 footer will make the defense worse.
People need to remember that its all about that TH-cam $$$ , too many positive videos about KP - so lets make a clickbait negative video about KP! That's how things work on youtube!
The Boston Celtics needed to trade Marcus Smart. He is not a dominant point Guard & Boston's offenses looks bad. No creativity and no dominance at any position. Porzignis might no pan out, but it is far easier to get a good point guard than getting a good center. I approve the move just in principle. Porzignis will demant defense's attention in the middle of the floor just for his shooting alone. Only thing that concerns me is his health
there hole to your explanation there is the hole your explanation are you saying just rob williams and porzingis will just play in defense??...the celtics has 3 wing defender and the only way the opponent will there get ther point is by driving in the lane of shootings 3s list how many player can past tatum brown and white and face rob williams ang porzingis at the middle?? and marcus smart is not the the great passer of that team that is al horford
The Celtics are not that defensive team anymore. Joe doesn't really have them focusing on the defensive end. They are going to be more of an offensive team that scores more points and will use specific defensive lineups in spurts. That defense is not at the same level.
Can't run the same switch everything defense without smart anymore, and it was clear that Rob wasn't close to the same athletically for most of the season last year. With Horford also getting killed on switches in the playoffs against smaller quicker players (but still overall defending bigs like embiid and bam very well), it doesn't seem like they will be able to run the same system, and may just have Porzingis sitting back in the paint and play more man on the perimeter. Brogdon also wasn't a good individual defender against guards and wings last year, and watching the Cs play the laziest drop coverage ever since the finals has really cost them in big games where it feels like opposing teams can just walk into wide open uncontested jumpers that the Cs are willing to give up to them rather than try to make things difficult
I'm sorry but yes Marcus was technically the best passer on the team because he brought the ball up the most. He also was the worst in terms of turnovers and his defense was not the same as 2021. I'm a celtics fan since 05 so maybe im just being a crazy but watching him last year he was clearly not the same as the finals year and didn't respect the team or Joe anymore. Love him but it was time for the Jays to step up. I do hope we see more Tatum at the 4 because like you point out Rob and Porzingis is iffy and Horford at some point will regress.
Bro boosted everyone height by two inches lol. Rob and Al are 6’8. Tatum is also 6’8. Brown is 6’7 and Smart is only 6’3 on a good day. They may be similarly sized but they were also too small on the glass with two guys on the court who made spacing the floor almost impossible. Nobody was worried about Rob or Smart beating them with a jumper so that made looks for Tatum and Brown very difficult.
Brown isn't even 6'7 he's 6'6, Tatum might actually be closer to 6'9 along with Rob and Al who are all about the same height. Smart is probably actually 6'4 along with D White. It is more their bigs that aren't that tall but they were more reliant on their strength and physicality than their height last season
@@JaAr-iw5os league average is 36 percent. 35 percent is the highest he’s shot since his 4th season which was the year he was his most efficient on offense. He’s been downhill since. He’s a role player at best and is a scrub compared to most starting point guards and even some backup point guards.
these takes were so fluffed with no backing. So two of our bigs arent proficcient on iso and PnR defense. You can say that with so many bigs. its the same thing where guards who are shorter than 6'3 are defensive liabilities. It's the NBA. If you know they arent good at those things, then the team knows and they adjust. Watching us fail last season because of certain things doesnt mean theyre gonna do it again the following season NO CRAP HES NOT GONNA BE LIKE HE WAS IN WASHINGTON. He's on the Celtics now. No one thinks hes coming in and puttting up 25/12 and 6. And then the last few minutes is just you reiterating the first half of the video. This is "I gotta put something out on youtube" content. Great click bait headline btw. Ill keep this receipt
I agree with you. You're the only one I've seen be negative on this trade. What was their big issue in the last couple playoffs? Shot creation and playmaking. They lose arguably their best passer with Smart. And while I get wanting to address their longterm big man needs, is a guy with Porzingis's health concerns really the answer? I don't think so, especially not at the money he earns. And until Horford ages out, the fit is really awkward. I also think this negatively impacts their defense. You lost a DPOY in Smart. You replace him with a big man who only excels in drop coverage. Also, while he was great defensively in Washington, he wasn't in Dallas.
The problem of KP is, that he is always injured. In Dallas when he played (at least for the most part) they here good, but for almost half of the time he was on the bench...
There were some instances of carrying the ball, on the dribble, and traveling, on this video, that should have been called and weren't, but not as many as usual on these types of videos of today's teams. There may be hope for Dr. Naismith's rules, yet.
Porzingis It's a better player than Al in this point of al's career. You need to get Younger at that position. Marcus smart was good But between him and brown, they turned over the ball so many times Now, one of these younger guys gotta step up And be a leader because they need someone Too lean on because they are mentally weak.
Dont agree with your thoughts, Boston needed the length and scoring.... Smart was tough on D yes thats about it, Boston will be tougher in the playoffs this year because they addressed they need.
everything you said about porzingis' weaknesses was already true for Rob and Al, but they managed to hold their own as a team defensively. At least porzingis combines their strengths, actually does better as a pick and roll defender and hasn't lost a step like Al. Their defense that "carried" them to the finals was completely eviscerated by the warriors, wouldn't say they're that much different now. ANY celtics fan can tell you that while Smart was their best passer, he was an unremarkable PG due to his poor decision making and his inability to create for himself consistently. They don't need one person to pass, they need to get better at moving the ball as a team, especially Tatum and Brown. Like you mentioned, adding porzingis as a post passer achieves a similar objective, but ultimately its going to come down to their best players learning to swing the ball earlier.
I am with you
The Celtics' defense wasn't obliterated by the Warriors. The Warriors barely managed over 100 ppg. The problem was the offense. They need an off-the-dribble creator, not a big man scorer.
And Horford, despite "losing a step," is still far more mobile than Porzingis ever has been. Porzingis is a drop defender. Boston's defense is going to take a step back with the loss of Smart and Porzingis's lack of flexibility.
The warriors didn't score over 110 in that entire series, and that was with a ton of extra possessions off of turnovers. Would feel better about this trade if they had gotten tyus jones in the deal as well which they probably were targeting after the brogdon deal fell through. Cs perimeter defense was atrocious last season and Kristaps won't help in that regard, but maybe will help rim protection since Rob didn't move/jump nearly as well last season vs the year before. Losing smart overall hurts, because brogdon was bad on defense most of the season and was out of position a lot, where smart is more versatile and moves better than brogdon does. Getting another viable backup wing that is a defensive stopper/offensive rebounder would be huge, because Mazzulla didn't want to play hauser in the playoffs for some reason, so spelling the Jays with an elite defender and adding one more ball mover could put this roster over the top
the warriors for most games in the finals were held under their playoff average so thats a stretch
Yes. Period.
yea tbh i feel like this is such a pessimistic take. like sure there are concerns but throwing away the "they got the much better player" argument for the "the fit might not be perfect" is a little inflammatory. calling porzingis a massive liability on defense is straight up false. one of the best drop bigs in the league. sure he plays a similar role to rob, but if at least one of them is healthy it's fine
Basically saying porzingis development is a fluke. Also Boston hasn’t been switch everything in a while they mostly play drop which porzingis excels in. Boston were at their best last year when they were a #2 offense and defense. They just got better
Right lol. He said something like “if you look at some of his post up numbers you can see he added a little bit to his game and was a little more punishing at times”… talking like he wasn’t the 2nd most efficient player in the post behind Jokic last season. Just down playing KPs post game development.
They were never a #2 Defensive team last season despite league ranking their defensive effectiveness was poor all year long and teams routinely had their way against them offensively…!!!! I don’t know why people are actually saying that they were #2 Defense because if you didn’t pay attention to leagues rankings and you watched Boston Defensively you knew that was bogus…!!!!
@@SpeedFoetowards the end of the year, I remember the Celtics being top five on offense and defense…..
@@DWS205 they were #2 in offense and defense but illiterate3802 doesn’t feel that they were so I guess they weren’t lol
Facts
this video aged like absolute crap
Side note: Kristaps is one of the minority of big men with actual good footwork below. hopefully he can teach Rob Williams some moves
If those are the worst negatives than I think the C’s can live with that. Kristaps was serviceable last year on defense, was one of the top centers in P&R defense. They’ve been playing drop coverage for the most part anyway I don’t think that changes this season. Celtics just need to load manage the crap out of Rob, Al, and Porzingis, each should probably play around 60, no more than 65, games next season.
Smart was a tough loss, was probably their best “PG” but he was sloppy with the ball, too many turnovers. White should fill in for Smart pretty nicely, less turnover prone and was second team All-Defense last year. White got barely any burn in 4th quarters or at the end of games which was pretty wild since he was their 3rd best player.
Brogdon situation might be a little weird since he was pretty much traded until the Clippers backed out last minute. I think he’s professional enough to understand that the NBA is a business. He kinda did it to himself by being part of the negotiations of the new CBA. But, I expect him to make a leap from year 1 to 2 with the Celtics just like White did. Unless, Brad really does have a solid trade and he’s not there before the season starts.
Lastly, Mazzulla has a year under his belt and his own coaching staff. I mean he went from the second row the HC chair right before media day, lost two top assistants in Hardy and Stoudamire and they didn’t hire anyone of significance to help ease the pressure. Cassell is a veteran coach that can help immensely and Charles Lee should help tighten up their defense.
Dwhite was our best pg yall overrating Smart I love smart gonna miss him but the way ppl making think like he gonna make or break us
Rob Williams Malcolm brogdon and Marcus smart were all better than white lady season along with of course Tatum n brown
That's a lot of players better
@@JaAr-iw5os better than White? He was second team All-Defense last season and won Eastern Conference Player of the Week during a stretch when Marcus was out.
Porzingis from the high post or the top of the key can run plays for both Tatum and Brown. He did it all the time with Beal and Kuzma in Washington.
On top of that, his defense is better than you are giving him credit for. While it isn’t his primary strength, Porzingis has the sheer length to contest perimeter shooters off the switch at an above-average level. He’s also extremely adept in drop coverage, holding the midrange and driving lanes hostage with the ability to step up or back to contest other shots. The fit with Williams is awkward, but not to the level implied here. He played fine alongside Taj Gibson and Daniel Gafford, who also aren’t super mobile.
Also, the comparison to Dallas isn’t good imo because Jason Kidd ran very few sets for Porzingis and tried to take him away from the action in favor of Luka. He was made to play like he was Davis Bertans.
I enjoy the idea of more breakdown/play-by-play stuff, though. Some definite good points, but a bit overblown.
Rob Williams is VERY mobile
bro thinks he knows more than the celtics front office and brad stevens 😂💀
Vid is wrong. Celts play more drop defense .
omg dude you are intentionally trolling boston right now
With all due respect you hava few key misunderstandings:
1. You misunderstand Rob Williams' defense. Rob even under Ime Udoka was at his best not at his best as a traditional rim defender, he was a roaming help defender at the rim. Thats why the double big lineups worked. Porzingis is a drop defense rim degender as you mentioned and now he will have Rob Williams as hos help defender whixh means he can afford to be more aggressive on defense.
2. Smart was the best passer but not the best playmaker as he often made ridiculous mistakes and was one of the worst starting PG's in the league in transition. He also lacked the respect from defenders thus didn't have the gravity to draw defenders to him to create open shots for others
3. Tatum was a much better playmaker last year than anyone else on the team. There is a reason the Celtics went to him in clutch situations last year and while he took big strides giving him Porzingis which will give him multiple options of plays to run on offense such as Pick and Rolls and big man with an efficient post game to just dump the ball to if a play breaks down (as happened multiple times last season) should help him even more.
4. Injuries yes are a concern but they now have three bigs they can turns giving days off to in order to load manage
As of Nov 20 2023 Celtics is 11-2. more wins than any team in the league. you should lose half of your subscribers. that, im pretty sure.
Celtics werw practically unable to work out of then post for years, they had no effective post players, nevermind good passers out of the post. Porzingas is highly effective in the post, 2nd most point per post up last year behind Jokic. This gives them the abiliy to actually break down and punish zone defenses that have been their achilles heel on offense. I like the trade a lot.
dude in video said he has never been punishing post player and never gonna be :D LOL, he don't know what he is talking about
Kp was the #3 defender in the pick and roll last year
Watching last year's Horford for getting punished for all the switches, it was painful to see in the playoffs. Switch everything isn't an option.
Honestly creator of this video can't move on from the time udoka team where they've been tremendous in defense. It will never be the same again no matter what the Celtics do coz there's a new coach and a new system. Mazulla is an offensive minded guy. So stop with the jib jab jabadoo. Porzingis is in Celtics for offense that's it. Period.
I agree with you, That defense was legit but the same offensive problems were there with Ime. When the offense failed the defense kept them in it. Playoffs and regular season are different. You need scoring. The C's offense was awesome to start the year and no one was crying defense until the offense starting doing what it has done every year. Fall of a cliff more games than not. Let those guys cook on offense and change the defense. You do not have to switch every play. Change it up. Allow PP, Hauser to play. I'm not mad MS got traded, Change was needed. 7 years of losing. I still believe Montrez Harrell would be a great cheap pick up.go C's
I am positively surprised by comments under video. Creator is wrong for sure and doesn't know what he is saying about KP defense.
This video is what happens when you have to make a over the top reactionary video to every NBA headline lol. Your entire channel is just knee jerk reactions trying to clickbait.
I’d say Porzingis has had a good season in Boston
Porzingis to the Celtics is a huge win
This aged horribly
Your concerns are head scratching. Porzingis has an elite game outside and inside the paint...and continues to improve. The NBA tracking data is clear on that. Defensively, he was one of the best rim protectors and shot blockers in the league. May be you should watch the March 29th game between Washington and Boston. He was option 1 for Washington scoring 32, 13 rebounds, 6 assists plus more. He was unstoppable. In terms of showcasing his skills...Boston needs to speed up the game and move the ball. His health is just fine. I don't hear other teams constantly talking trash about their players health. Anthony Davis has not played a full season due to injuries since coming to the NBA; K Leonard has missed more games since his San Antonio injury than most other players; let's not overlook J Embeid, P George, Zion, and a long list of others. It is about time that folks like you see the glass half full. This narrative is frankly boring.
Wow this is completely over blown and over exaggerated, and a lot of it actually completely incorrect.
The main thing I Learned from this video is that robs injury really hurt
him/ he hasn’t been as confident since. It could be the coaching but his overall defense has been ok, not scary like before the injury.
Big fan of these breakdown types of channels, hope it's a success because you deserve it!
Thank you glad you enjoyed!
Update 😊
I've never seen someone so smart and so dumb at the same time. Remember how good our offense was at the beginning of last year? Yeah... We're finally realizing our mistake in thinking we need an awesome defense to win.
And yet this will still be a pretty okay defense at worst. D white was actually a better defender than Smart last year. And double rim protection is just brutal, especially when you have to adjust to multiple types of bigs.
The biggest problem was Mazzu didn't have a clue who to play or when. I know he was thrown into the fire on short notice so he better have figured out players and rotations this year. Honestly the switching everything defense did not work because teams were getting wide open shots way too much. This defense doesn't allow PP, SamH, Kornet, Muscala that's gone now to get any real chance of playing in this system. The C's have very good defensive players so they still should be good. Please build a real offense, Seven years of the same bs jacking up shots from three's and outside. Get some inside game, Ball movement, cuts. RW, AL, JT, start now on post play instead of only working on 3's. RW shoot the dmn ball, get some inside game. Same game four years later😂. A lot to work on to get better.
Derrick White is just as good as a defender. Boston is in good hands
He’s a better perimeter defender than smart, but he is awful when switched onto forwards. He’s not the same White from SA that was tasked and succeeded a lot of times in locking up forwards. Theirs a reason why in all of the Miami series Jimmy was trying to stay away from Marcus and always took the Derrick matchup
This didnt age well😂
You need to do a recap of your bad takes
Make you more credible to see how you was wrong and learning more about the game
The reason kp failed in Dallas was his inability to punish mismatches on post ups. If he fixed that consistently then he’s a top big in the league.
That was not his role at Dallans. He was asked to go corner 3s. He was not getting ball. So I call BS!
@@rolandsj8880 you clearly didn’t watch mavs games. Your thinking of his final playoff series with Dallas where yes, Carlisle put him in the corner because that’s all he could do. He was failing that bad.
@@coltondodd3086 you nobody, your opinion is useless. Thanks, bye hater.
@@rolandsj8880? why because he didn't agree with you. So what about your opinion. What does it mean. Everyone has an opinion like it or not.
As a Dallas Maverick fan I remember how excited I was when we got the unicorn. I also realized how awesome it was going to be to see the pick and pops and the good rim protection from him. Sadly things just didn't work out for us it happens, but I think that him joining the Celtics will just be as disappointing as it was when he joined the Mavericks.
Aged like fine milk...
how can you call 3rd best post scorer in season as not great in post? :D
Not gunna miss Marcus Smart’s 0-6 on 3’s every game 😂
This trade is good for me as a Celtic fan because it gives Tatum and brown a chance to step up and become those locker room leaders.
The pace is more of a problem for me than the defense on isolation, Rob and Kristaps are very slow for the transition offense we like to play.
That would be great if your coach wasn't a doormat
@@manz7860 😂😂
Acting like the Wizards have a single player in their starting 5 that is on the same level defensively as what the Celtics have is wild. Porzingis will have significantly better players around him.. offensively and defensively even without smart
All of these talented players but no heart like Smart 💔
Looks like everyone is gonna learn Defense 101 again because their offense will carry but will it be enough???
This is why you can’t watch certain nba TH-camrs
@ 2:45 he labels the heights wrong on three guys. Marcus is 6’3, Jaylen is 6’6, Rob Williams is 6’9 not 6’11. Do some research.
This is boom or bust tbh trading smart makes other players (tatum brown horford) have to take the identity and recreate it because smart was that, but if we get the perfect scenario with a double big KP and RW and JB JT and a point guard in (someone that passes like smart) this team is intriguing could easily be an nba great team, but this could also go bad and have Boston as a play in
I think he could make them a little less reliant on the 3 point shot wich should be pretty good. Hope it works out for them after all these years with this core
Dude Mazulla wants the team to jack up 50 3s a game. Maybe Joe changes his strategy this year since he gets an off-season and new coaches.
The defensive rating when Horford and Williams were on the court was the highest. I don't see how that doesn't work with Porzingis. Even if Williams and Porzingis are clunky what are the odds they both over invest. One could come over and help after the other gets out of place or even Tatum filling gaps. White Brown Tatum Porzingis Williams is going to be tough set.
More click bait
Tucker hating, as usual
Ayyy part of the og 200 subscribers
Rob is like 6’8, 6’9 not 6’11
The celtics got theyre 3rd scoring option. That was what theyre facing the entire playoffs.
How come this isnt on the main channel?
Totally different style… film breakdown type stuff. Main is still for news/player movement/rumors
What's his main channel?
You certainly can put Rob Williams and Porzingis on the court somewhere, like directly in the starting rotation. Celtics sizing up to face Denver. not Golden State
Everybody does not love this trade. Boston media has been ridiculously lukewarm and they much like you are clueless in their assessment. Forget the trade even is for KP, removing Marcus smart from this team is a win in and of itself. He’s hamstrung nearly every aspect of Celtics basketball the last three years. He’s doesn’t make us better and his best attribute defense is a negative at this point. It is crazy talk to not
Understand his removal plus kp isn’t an incredible changeover. And I don’t want to hear about health because though Marcus plays we excuse his poor play for about two months every season due to his being beaten up. I don’t think that’s been any more valuable tbh. I think Boston media is gonna look absolutely ridiculous when this team takes the floor.
boston going to have to pick which centers they play. It's not going to go well if they play 3 centers
Let’s say he matured like he said in his Celtics interview
Agreed. The Wizards were never good defensively. And Portzingis played a big part in that.
The problem with Rob is he can't be counted on to be healthy, and really hasn't returned to his peak of 2 years ago. The hope is, between Porzingas, Rob Williams, and Al ( who won't play back to backs), there's at least one healthy big every night.
Nice try citing the pros and cons of the trade. The deficiencies and strengths are two sides of the same coin. Rewards are based on risks and that is a management function. You failed to include the coaching factor, and that is part of management function. The Celtics is an organization and the Porzingis trade is management's decision. If Boston fails, what is it you? You're not part of the Boston Celtics organization and you cannot be blamed for the trade.
Spacing the floor perfectly for jb to drive and get a turn over 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Like the move better pnr option than Williams and horford. Maybe they keep Pritchard as 3rd guard retain grant Williams. Doesn't make their team worst but most importantly gives them flexibility when it come to jaylen brown extension plus 2 first round picks
Negativity is not needed here Porzingus will help this team
Now stop. Porzingis was ALL of the Dalllas defence! He is very underrated defencevily.
Very interesting insights towards the end of the video. So you believe that KP’s offensive versatility showcase was more of a fluke than an improvement of his skill? If KP is relegated to just standing on the perimeter then this trade is going to end up pretty bad lol
The Celtics blatantly needed an inside presence on offense and porzingis averaged the second most points per post up last season behind jokic
I also don't see this work at all. Really confused with the fit. Offensively it's gonna be great for sure, but they're really going to have to gameplan a defensive strat with Zingis and I don't see Mazzulla doing that tbh. Marcus was the heart of that defense. I know Zingis wasn't injured much last year, but I see him getting injured in a switch heavy defense liek that of the Celtics.
Let's not get it twisted, smart was a good defensive player this year but no where near is DPOY year. His bone fouling Trea in playoffs shows that. Celts can pick up Beverly who plays very good D and pass the ball and would be cheaper but fills everything smart did. Beverly, Pritchard and brogdon with white is what I'm calling
@@brandonlibby9743 That would not be a bad idea actually. I also think Brogdon could be a very good starter anyway. He's a better point and a good defender. My problem is mainly Zingis and how that frontcourt defense is gonna look.
They will play drop more…. And he is 7’3”. If zingis is in with timelord the interior defense becomes very good already. Tatum, Brown, white, and brogdon are all great on all defenders. Idk how adding a pretty agile long 7 footer will make the defense worse.
@@Yungshiner-vp9oc yup, and I hope it stops working cause I'm a sixers fan
You guys are overrating smart by a lot. Smart was a net negative to this team.
this is nonsense
People need to remember that its all about that TH-cam $$$ , too many positive videos about KP - so lets make a clickbait negative video about KP!
That's how things work on youtube!
The Boston Celtics needed to trade Marcus Smart.
He is not a dominant point Guard & Boston's offenses looks bad.
No creativity and no dominance at any position.
Porzignis might no pan out, but it is far easier to get a good point guard than getting a good center.
I approve the move just in principle.
Porzignis will demant defense's attention in the middle of the floor just for his shooting alone.
Only thing that concerns me is his health
dude is basically budget jokic
there hole to your explanation there is the hole your explanation are you saying just rob williams and porzingis will just play in defense??...the celtics has 3 wing defender and the only way the opponent will there get ther point is by driving in the lane of shootings 3s list how many player can past tatum brown and white and face rob williams ang porzingis at the middle?? and marcus smart is not the the great passer of that team that is al horford
The Celtics are not that defensive team anymore. Joe doesn't really have them focusing on the defensive end. They are going to be more of an offensive team that scores more points and will use specific defensive lineups in spurts. That defense is not at the same level.
Check Horford 3-point shooting percentage.
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damn why are celtics fans so pessimistic, you guys got a superstar on ur hands bruv
Let's see if Porzingis can stay healthy, that's the main concert, like Brogdon he's injury prone.
Yikes 😂😂😂
Can't run the same switch everything defense without smart anymore, and it was clear that Rob wasn't close to the same athletically for most of the season last year. With Horford also getting killed on switches in the playoffs against smaller quicker players (but still overall defending bigs like embiid and bam very well), it doesn't seem like they will be able to run the same system, and may just have Porzingis sitting back in the paint and play more man on the perimeter. Brogdon also wasn't a good individual defender against guards and wings last year, and watching the Cs play the laziest drop coverage ever since the finals has really cost them in big games where it feels like opposing teams can just walk into wide open uncontested jumpers that the Cs are willing to give up to them rather than try to make things difficult
Celtics stopped switching everything half way through last season
Great vid
this take is overly salty.
Zingis is going to be a 3rd option that can get a bucket at the rim off defenses collapsing on JT & JB
Damn this channels titles are so childishly clickbaity lol
Different coach. That guy preached defense. This team is more offensive. Porzingis cannot play with another big. There defense may suffer.
We can complicate things but if he's healthy and shoots from 3 like he did last year....he's always gonna be 7'3"....he will be fine.
Is this a real channel of SL ??
Indeed
Is this actually tucker?
Celtics hater for sure
Thank you I've been saying this!
I'm sorry but yes Marcus was technically the best passer on the team because he brought the ball up the most. He also was the worst in terms of turnovers and his defense was not the same as 2021. I'm a celtics fan since 05 so maybe im just being a crazy but watching him last year he was clearly not the same as the finals year and didn't respect the team or Joe anymore. Love him but it was time for the Jays to step up. I do hope we see more Tatum at the 4 because like you point out Rob and Porzingis is iffy and Horford at some point will regress.
Bro boosted everyone height by two inches lol. Rob and Al are 6’8. Tatum is also 6’8. Brown is 6’7 and Smart is only 6’3 on a good day. They may be similarly sized but they were also too small on the glass with two guys on the court who made spacing the floor almost impossible. Nobody was worried about Rob or Smart beating them with a jumper so that made looks for Tatum and Brown very difficult.
Brown isn't even 6'7 he's 6'6, Tatum might actually be closer to 6'9 along with Rob and Al who are all about the same height. Smart is probably actually 6'4 along with D White. It is more their bigs that aren't that tall but they were more reliant on their strength and physicality than their height last season
Smart has actually become a good 3pt shooter and no teams game plan was to let him shoot open 3s
Ur about 3 years behind in ur evaluation
@@JaAr-iw5os if below league average is good to you then I definitely feel you shouldn’t try to be an NBA scout.
@@reese5545 smart has shot 35% or higher the last couple of seasons...
How's that below league average?
@@JaAr-iw5os league average is 36 percent. 35 percent is the highest he’s shot since his 4th season which was the year he was his most efficient on offense. He’s been downhill since. He’s a role player at best and is a scrub compared to most starting point guards and even some backup point guards.
these takes were so fluffed with no backing. So two of our bigs arent proficcient on iso and PnR defense. You can say that with so many bigs. its the same thing where guards who are shorter than 6'3 are defensive liabilities. It's the NBA. If you know they arent good at those things, then the team knows and they adjust. Watching us fail last season because of certain things doesnt mean theyre gonna do it again the following season
NO CRAP HES NOT GONNA BE LIKE HE WAS IN WASHINGTON. He's on the Celtics now. No one thinks hes coming in and puttting up 25/12 and 6. And then the last few minutes is just you reiterating the first half of the video. This is "I gotta put something out on youtube" content. Great click bait headline btw. Ill keep this receipt
I agree with you. You're the only one I've seen be negative on this trade. What was their big issue in the last couple playoffs? Shot creation and playmaking. They lose arguably their best passer with Smart. And while I get wanting to address their longterm big man needs, is a guy with Porzingis's health concerns really the answer? I don't think so, especially not at the money he earns.
And until Horford ages out, the fit is really awkward. I also think this negatively impacts their defense. You lost a DPOY in Smart. You replace him with a big man who only excels in drop coverage. Also, while he was great defensively in Washington, he wasn't in Dallas.
you realize they didn’t trade Brogdon right?..
The problem of KP is, that he is always injured. In Dallas when he played (at least for the most part) they here good, but for almost half of the time he was on the bench...
He played 60+ games last year. Wym?
@@301kofipanda7 read the comment.. it was ment for when he was in Dallas and before. Last year was an exeption..
@@301kofipanda7 lil bro stuck in past.
I can see some lost sore Luka's fans trollin around, remembering KP days in Dallas.. Lol..
There were some instances of carrying the ball, on the dribble, and traveling, on this video, that should have been called and weren't, but not as many as usual on these types of videos of today's teams. There may be hope for Dr. Naismith's rules, yet.
The Cs will be fine. Smart really had to go.
Oh no Mr glass they will boo him out of Boston
New channel???
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i think you are telling this thing to have viewers to earn money ... but the negative things i think celtics can address that easily
Boston panicked and made a hasty move. They should have been in the Finals but got outcoached.
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#Porzingod has finally come back.... To beantown
Porzingis It's a better player than Al in this point of al's career. You need to get Younger at that position. Marcus smart was good But between him and brown, they turned over the ball so many times Now, one of these younger guys gotta step up And be a leader because they need someone Too lean on because they are mentally weak.
I love Marcus like you and everbody in Boston but Celtics need a change and KP is better player and better fit for this team if he is Healthy.
let Brad cook. he is not done
Dont agree with your thoughts, Boston needed the length and scoring.... Smart was tough on D yes thats about it, Boston will be tougher in the playoffs this year because they addressed they need.