The first song that came to my mind when you played that opening lick is May This Be Love..."Waterfall...Nothing can harm me at all..." I recently bought a EP-3 and EP-4 both as "non-working," but after several hours of work, I got both of them working now. I still haven't found a EP-2 for cheap enough yet. I learned a long time ago, I'm more skilled at tinkering than I am with playing, but Echoplexes are definately fun to play. I dig your playing. Liked and subscribed!
You're an inspiration, there's not many of us so obsessive as to venture to every realm to achieve tone. Dreaming pre-cbs and wide-nut era Gibson dreams...
I built a DIY UniVibe pedal that includes an external speed control socket, a 3-way voicing switch to select between Resley Tone, Voodoo Vibe, and UniVibe voicings, plus a footswitch for bypassing and a second footswitch to select either Chorus or Vibrato mode, both footswitches have Led status indicators, sounds great.
Been looking at your video's since i was a teenager and still enjoying them! I played a squier through a Roland cube 30 back then but now i own some fender guitars and a 66 super reverb:)
Hey my brother! I had an echoplex and loved it, I had to have it after hearing Jimi play "Peter Gunn" - I always enjoy hearing you play and have learned a LOT from you my friend.
I remember hearing Peter Gunn but I'm not sure where to find it. I'm very glad I bought it now because for the longest time, I was regretting it. It works fine and I'm figuring out how to dial it in with less volume to reduce the hum. The preamp is wonderful.
Got interested in tape delays because of the Hendrix’s songs you spoke about and because of les rallizes dénudées, in a somewhat different register. These things are insane, I tried every types of delay and only tape was able to get me close to what I wanted, doesn’t sound echoey or muddy and the feedback/flutter is so different…I made one not long ago from recorders, the noise is manageable and I always keep a tiny bit of delay as it prolong the notes. This and the univibe are the best combination of effect you can potentially look for. So glad you made a demo thanks !
May this Be Love, because If 6 was 9 has already been guessed. It sounds like the echo on 6 was 9. May This Be Love has a subtler echo, and it was likely done in post. One live(mostly) studio recording, where Hendrix used a delay, is Once I Had a Woman. I still can’t believe Hendrix didn’t bring these and/or Echorecs on the road. Pink Floyd did it, The Who, few other bands, and I think it kept Jimi from playing certain songs live. Jimi didn’t use delay on his takes in the studio much. He and Kramer usually did the effects like that in post. He was using Uni Vibe with his Fuzz and Wah, in most of the studio takes I’ve ever heard, but the delays on most of those First Rays of the New Rising Sun songs, are all done in post.
Ha ha, after enjoying your videos for many years, i didn't realize this is one of yours, as there is also your face and body. Hey, thanks for all the awesome tones! Ain't it amazing how much convincing Hendrix tones one can get from BF and Tweed Fenders that are NOT the Tweed Bassman?
Yeah, all those circuits are sons, brothers and cousins of the 5F6-A circuit, just different tweaks and tubes. Tru_fi_pedals just posted a bunch of receipts on Instagram of Jimi's gear purchases from Manny's and Sound City and sure enough, there is an Echoplex on there for $200 in 1969 which would have been the EP-2. I'm not sure if it was for the studio or personal use but he bought one.
I've got a Boss RE 20 Space Echo pedal that's basically a digital version of the old Roland RE 201 Space Echo Tape Delay from the 70's, it has a feature on it where if you hold-down one of the pedals with your foot, it does the whole Tape Echo feedback and knob tweaking thing automatically, you can get some pretty crazy effects with it, i just need to do some maintenance work on my RE 20 pedal to get it working better, the DC in socket needs replacing for sure.
I have the RE20 and its not really like the Echoplex,its just different i use the RE20 for Space echo stuff but it doesn't oscillate the same..I use a Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe the Echoplex stuff..use an expression pedal and your in Echoplex heaven without Echoplex problems..
I was able to figure out how to reduce the noise to an acceptable level. You just don't turn the volume up very much. It doesn't take much to get a good echo and minimize the hum.
You’re always great!! Anyway After I always watch your posting , I’ve been thinking that Hendrix might have used only Fender amp not Marshall, especially in studio album. Very close to his tone to my ear 👍 Always best on TH-cam!!
I'm glad I could demonstrate this old baby. There are not a lot of good working ones out there anymore. I need to start figuring out how to spool my spare tape cartridge. I saw a video on YT of someone doing it. I have a Scotch tape cartridge that was used at radio stations that is supposed to be the correct tape. I need to spool it so I have a backup.
You need to change the power filter caps to get a handle on the noise..i use a Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe and its real close without the maintenance hassle
Yes, I wish I would have known about the Epoch before I bought this. The guy that serviced it mentioned that is what he would use. I’m sure he replaced the caps. Someday I’ll go check his work again. He did run some strange ground wire from the motor and I’ve always wanted to disconnect that to see what happens. For now, I get what I need out of my MXR Carbon Copy.
..........it also sounds like the echo he used on Voodoo Child and Room full of Mirrors.............it also sound like Tom Scholtz of the band Boston when you were making those weird sounds.........
Citation needed. 'Bold as love' was recorded at Olympic Studios, and so it's extremely unlikely that they used an imported American tape echo unit when there were plenty of British models already available. These tape echoes all have motors that make a similar humming sound during operation to an Echoplex, so I don't agree that it's possible to tell the exact model from some vague background noise on a recording. Why would the motor hum from a tape echo be audible in the music anyway, unless the engineers were miking up the unit itself?
I'm sure this will start a great debate which is good. If you Google it, you find out all kinds of interesting debates on the topic. Some suggest it was the Watkins Copycat, or the Binson Echorec. Some engineers have said it could have been made using one of the studio's reel-to-reel decks. I'm not familiar with any of those but I presume they have tapes heads that are easily manipulated like the Echoplex otherwise it would be difficult to get the spacial echo sounds of the Echoplex. On using just British gear, that's not really a factor because they had plenty of USA made gear in their studios including Fender amps and of course, the Strat. On the motor hum, it goes through the guitar signal so there is no way to get rid of it even if they added the echo in post. After this video, I did figure out how to reduce the noise of the whole unit by keeping the volume down to the bare minimum. When you turn it up past 9:00, it starts to get pretty noisy. When you bypass the delay with the footswitch and just go through the preamp, the noise disappears. As soon as you kick in the echo, you can hear the motor. Since the Binson Echorec existed during that time and used by Pink Floyd, it could possibly be that. Eddie Kramer knows and has probably mentioned it somewhere. One of the guys, Phil O'Keefe, knows Eddie and said he would ask him way back in 2011. I think Eddie is still up in Canada. I will try to send him an email. It is surprising how noisy those old recordings were when you listen with headphones. Maybe that's why we love the old analog stuff so much. They had a soulful warmth to them versus this perfectly silent, quantized digital world we live in now.
@@millstap I can definitely see musicians being discerning about big brand name instruments & amplifiers, but I'd be surprised if they were so discerning about the subtleties of different tape echoes, to justify importing a Maestro model. I've never heard of any musician using an Echoplex here in the UK, during the 60s, so I don't think they were available in the same way that Fender guitars were. I've seen Binson Echorecs advertised in the UK press during the 60s, so the only obstacle for groups like Pink Floyd and the Shadows in acquiring those would have been the steep price!
@@fuzzboxes Cool. I have a message into Waves Audio which has been interviewing Eddie a lot lately so hopefully they can shed some light on this. I'll let everyone know.
@@robertritchie2860 Our hearts our with you guys. We are certainly grieving with you. Do you think it could have been the Copycat or Echorec that was used? It could have been another unit. I sent a question into Eddie Kramer but I’m not sure I’ll get a response.
If 6 Was 9 😎
Yeah, you beat me to it.
I don't mind
This is what I love about old Tape Delay units, they are easy to "misuse" and so inspiring when you do misuse them.
Unfortunately it is so noisy now, I can't used it without a lot of hum. It probably needs more work.
The first song that came to my mind when you played that opening lick is May This Be Love..."Waterfall...Nothing can harm me at all..." I recently bought a EP-3 and EP-4 both as "non-working," but after several hours of work, I got both of them working now. I still haven't found a EP-2 for cheap enough yet. I learned a long time ago, I'm more skilled at tinkering than I am with playing, but Echoplexes are definately fun to play. I dig your playing. Liked and subscribed!
You're an inspiration, there's not many of us so obsessive as to venture to every realm to achieve tone. Dreaming pre-cbs and wide-nut era Gibson dreams...
Always great to see and hear you play.
Hot dam that sounds good, Every dam time i stop on your channel i end up picking up the guitar after words.. lol. ✌
Well, don't put your guitar down anymore. Keep on rockin'.
So cool. Thanks for sharing. I have a better appreciation for Jimi’s glorious music.
If 6 was 9!!! My favorite Jimi song!! I first heard it when I saw Easy Rider at age 15. I'm now 32!
And I'm 46! 😃
May this be love too my friend..... And many more. Awesome. All of you.
Ep3 is my favorite but any tape delay takes a lot of maintaining. Excellent video and Great tones!!!
I built a DIY UniVibe pedal that includes an external speed control socket, a 3-way voicing switch to select between Resley Tone, Voodoo Vibe, and UniVibe voicings, plus a footswitch for bypassing and a second footswitch to select either Chorus or Vibrato mode, both footswitches have Led status indicators, sounds great.
May This be Love
Good guess. Very similar but it was If 6 Was 9. I should do one of the beginning of May This Be Love with the slide guitar.
Been looking at your video's since i was a teenager and still enjoying them! I played a squier through a Roland cube 30 back then but now i own some fender guitars and a 66 super reverb:)
IF 6 WAS 9, BUT IT CAN REMIND ALSO MAY THIS BE LOVE, CHEERS!
Hey my brother! I had an echoplex and loved it, I had to have it after hearing Jimi play "Peter Gunn" - I always enjoy hearing you play and have learned a LOT from you my friend.
I remember hearing Peter Gunn but I'm not sure where to find it. I'm very glad I bought it now because for the longest time, I was regretting it. It works fine and I'm figuring out how to dial it in with less volume to reduce the hum. The preamp is wonderful.
@@millstap I'm going off of an old memory system here, but I think it was on the "War Heroes" LP (I think it was a German released LP).
Got interested in tape delays because of the Hendrix’s songs you spoke about and because of les rallizes dénudées, in a somewhat different register. These things are insane, I tried every types of delay and only tape was able to get me close to what I wanted, doesn’t sound echoey or muddy and the feedback/flutter is so different…I made one not long ago from recorders, the noise is manageable and I always keep a tiny bit of delay as it prolong the notes. This and the univibe are the best combination of effect you can potentially look for.
So glad you made a demo thanks !
always a pleasure, Millstap. New studio setup looks great and that thing sounds amazing!
I changed angles a little bit. I should go with the window behind me so you can see everything. Maybe next time.
I six was nine you have nailed it thats the sound for sure. also i think sounds like he may use that on may this be love. :)
I first heard this effect on May this be love..Hendrix first LP
you are the best, love your videos, carry on man
Beautiful If 6 was 9 sound!
May this Be Love, because If 6 was 9 has already been guessed.
It sounds like the echo on 6 was 9.
May This Be Love has a subtler echo, and it was likely done in post.
One live(mostly) studio recording, where Hendrix used a delay, is Once I Had a Woman.
I still can’t believe Hendrix didn’t bring these and/or Echorecs on the road. Pink Floyd did it, The Who, few other bands, and I think it kept Jimi from playing certain songs live.
Jimi didn’t use delay on his takes in the studio much. He and Kramer usually did the effects like that in post.
He was using Uni Vibe with his Fuzz and Wah, in most of the studio takes I’ve ever heard, but the delays on most of those First Rays of the New Rising Sun songs, are all done in post.
wow awesome sound very intresting thank you:)
I that in my apartment in 1978. I was holding it for Darrell Fields, the first Hendrix tribute guitarist.
Ha ha, after enjoying your videos for many years, i didn't realize this is one of yours, as there is also your face and body. Hey, thanks for all the awesome tones! Ain't it amazing how much convincing Hendrix tones one can get from BF and Tweed Fenders that are NOT the Tweed Bassman?
Yeah, all those circuits are sons, brothers and cousins of the 5F6-A circuit, just different tweaks and tubes. Tru_fi_pedals just posted a bunch of receipts on Instagram of Jimi's gear purchases from Manny's and Sound City and sure enough, there is an Echoplex on there for $200 in 1969 which would have been the EP-2. I'm not sure if it was for the studio or personal use but he bought one.
If the sun refused to shine,
I don’t mind, I don’t mind :)
thanks millstap it's always interesting
🎶
Fantastic
Great content, amazing tones. Thank you!
Thanks for watching Andre.
if a 6 chord. turned out to be a 9,, vary clever Jimmy.
Absolutely brilliant
I've got a Boss RE 20 Space Echo pedal that's basically a digital version of the old Roland RE 201 Space Echo Tape Delay from the 70's, it has a feature on it where if you hold-down one of the pedals with your foot, it does the whole Tape Echo feedback and knob tweaking thing automatically, you can get some pretty crazy effects with it, i just need to do some maintenance work on my RE 20 pedal to get it working better, the DC in socket needs replacing for sure.
I have the RE20 and its not really like the Echoplex,its just different i use the RE20 for Space echo stuff but it doesn't oscillate the same..I use a Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe the Echoplex stuff..use an expression pedal and your in Echoplex heaven without Echoplex problems..
That’s definitely the tone ‼️❤️
Want echoplex now🤩
They’re pretty cool if you find one in good shape and you can find the right person to refurbish it.
Love my Xotic EP booster. Before a Univibe clone, it brings out the bottom end throb and makes it wonderful.
Good idea for sure. I've noticed that that the vibe clones need a little help.
Great work, very informative.
I think the noise adds a certain quality to the overall sound. Wouldn’t be the same without it.👍
I was able to figure out how to reduce the noise to an acceptable level. You just don't turn the volume up very much. It doesn't take much to get a good echo and minimize the hum.
Very Awesome video!!
Aha... Fall mountains.. Just don't fall on me..
Thank you for prompting me to read the lyrics. I am such a slacker when it comes to lyrics. His were as poetic and his playing.
You’re always great!!
Anyway After I always watch your posting , I’ve been thinking that Hendrix might have used only Fender amp not Marshall, especially in studio album. Very close to his tone to my ear 👍
Always best on TH-cam!!
love your tone quest, suits me to a T.
I'm glad I could demonstrate this old baby. There are not a lot of good working ones out there anymore. I need to start figuring out how to spool my spare tape cartridge. I saw a video on YT of someone doing it. I have a Scotch tape cartridge that was used at radio stations that is supposed to be the correct tape. I need to spool it so I have a backup.
“If the Sun…refused to shine …I don’t mind” you know what it is….
Love you Mill❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Linus for the support. It is appreciated for sure.
You need to change the power filter caps to get a handle on the noise..i use a Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe and its real close without the maintenance hassle
Yes, I wish I would have known about the Epoch before I bought this. The guy that serviced it mentioned that is what he would use. I’m sure he replaced the caps. Someday I’ll go check his work again. He did run some strange ground wire from the motor and I’ve always wanted to disconnect that to see what happens. For now, I get what I need out of my MXR Carbon Copy.
Sounds awesome!
Nailed it 👊💫
If 6 was 9
Seems like you got a good one! Nice oscillations! Where do yo take it for service?
Dustin Beasley in the Dallas area. I'm not sure he services them anymore.
Been very happy with my volante, not exactly an ep3/ep2 but super easy to use and so7nds great! Ok.. not as great as that ep2 but still..
If Six Was Nine
Correct.
..........it also sounds like the echo he used on Voodoo Child and Room full of Mirrors.............it also sound like Tom Scholtz of the band Boston when you were making those weird sounds.........
if 6 was 9
I change strings of my guitars all at the same time
Citation needed. 'Bold as love' was recorded at Olympic Studios, and so it's extremely unlikely that they used an imported American tape echo unit when there were plenty of British models already available. These tape echoes all have motors that make a similar humming sound during operation to an Echoplex, so I don't agree that it's possible to tell the exact model from some vague background noise on a recording. Why would the motor hum from a tape echo be audible in the music anyway, unless the engineers were miking up the unit itself?
I'm sure this will start a great debate which is good. If you Google it, you find out all kinds of interesting debates on the topic. Some suggest it was the Watkins Copycat, or the Binson Echorec. Some engineers have said it could have been made using one of the studio's reel-to-reel decks. I'm not familiar with any of those but I presume they have tapes heads that are easily manipulated like the Echoplex otherwise it would be difficult to get the spacial echo sounds of the Echoplex. On using just British gear, that's not really a factor because they had plenty of USA made gear in their studios including Fender amps and of course, the Strat. On the motor hum, it goes through the guitar signal so there is no way to get rid of it even if they added the echo in post. After this video, I did figure out how to reduce the noise of the whole unit by keeping the volume down to the bare minimum. When you turn it up past 9:00, it starts to get pretty noisy. When you bypass the delay with the footswitch and just go through the preamp, the noise disappears. As soon as you kick in the echo, you can hear the motor. Since the Binson Echorec existed during that time and used by Pink Floyd, it could possibly be that. Eddie Kramer knows and has probably mentioned it somewhere. One of the guys, Phil O'Keefe, knows Eddie and said he would ask him way back in 2011. I think Eddie is still up in Canada. I will try to send him an email. It is surprising how noisy those old recordings were when you listen with headphones. Maybe that's why we love the old analog stuff so much. They had a soulful warmth to them versus this perfectly silent, quantized digital world we live in now.
@@millstap I can definitely see musicians being discerning about big brand name instruments & amplifiers, but I'd be surprised if they were so discerning about the subtleties of different tape echoes, to justify importing a Maestro model. I've never heard of any musician using an Echoplex here in the UK, during the 60s, so I don't think they were available in the same way that Fender guitars were.
I've seen Binson Echorecs advertised in the UK press during the 60s, so the only obstacle for groups like Pink Floyd and the Shadows in acquiring those would have been the steep price!
@@fuzzboxes Cool. I have a message into Waves Audio which has been interviewing Eddie a lot lately so hopefully they can shed some light on this. I'll let everyone know.
Am from the UK - I had a Watkins Copycat years ago. It was amazing... All of the peripheral noise and tape degration just added to the vibe
@@robertritchie2860 Our hearts our with you guys. We are certainly grieving with you. Do you think it could have been the Copycat or Echorec that was used? It could have been another unit. I sent a question into Eddie Kramer but I’m not sure I’ll get a response.
Tommy bolen on the Echoplex
I just watched some YT videos of Tommy. Oh, the good old days. He was a monster.
With his Echoplex. Pretty cool.
Is there any proof, cause I read Jimi used the EP as a booster on many recordings...?
After playing a real Uni-Vibe, I would say Jimi used it more for a preamp. It sounds so much like his tone and it would be easier to use too.
Okay…I was just planning to get an EP Booster Pedal…and I thought it could be a secret ingredient to Jimis sound i😊
This is Ben Howards main sound now
@@npegg An actual old Echoplex or a pedal simulator? The tape machines are a pain to maintain.
@@millstapthe actual tape echoplex , they put it in the Center of the stage too during the shows. Super interesting
Waterfall....????
They do sound the same but I was trying to do "If 6 Was 9."
Astronomy Domine
Waterfall
IF 6 WAS 9, IF ALL THE HIPPIES CUT OFF ALL THEIR HAIR, I DONT CARE
If 6 was 9