These Are The $800 Knives That Celebrity Chefs Like Massimo Bottura Swear By
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- Chelsea Miller started making custom knives in 2011 and has grown her client list to include some of the top chefs in the world. Business Insider visited her Brooklyn studio to learn how she does it. Following is a transcript of video.
Chelsea Miller: I'm Chelsea Miller and I make knives.
Some of the world's best chefs use her knives.
Chelsea Miller: The chefs at Eleven Madison, Mario Batali, Massimo Bottura. Chefs who make some really, really delicious food. Let's say that.
And they don't come cheap.
Chelsea Miller: My smaller knives start at $200, the largest knife, the chef knife are $800.
I moved to New York when I was 18 and I was singing, dancing, acting, and as much as I love that kind of storytelling, I grew up in Vermont on a farm, homeschooled, my father was a blacksmith, and I was really missing that quality of working with your hands and that creative process.
So I went home for a while at the end of 2011 and started playing around in my father's shop. These knives came out of that exploration.
My friends encouraged me to take out a booth at the Brooklyn Flea and the Brooklyn Flea is an incredible place to be as a creator because there's an incredible amount of foot traffic and a lot of high profile writers, photographers, chefs. And that's how I got my first publications in Saveur Magazine and The New York Times and it really blew up from there.
Most of all my knives have a grater on the side, which is very unique because I've never seen a knife with a grater, but also that is the original function of the original material that I make it from. They're made from horseshoe rasps which have that rasp on the side that was originally used for filing horse's hooves. So in my mind, I thought, "Why take that away?" We can incorporate that into this new tool.
Since I've started my own business, I've noticed a real progressive movement towards more and more and more handmade things and a lot more consciousness about where you items are coming from. Trying to buy things that are going to last you your lifetime instead of something that's meant to be thrown away the second you open it.
I leave a window of about three to six months. If I were making one knife at a time, that would take me a couple of days, but because I have so many I tend to make them in batches, so as many as I can, I start from the beginning process, maybe 10 knives at the same time. So for a few weeks I'll be working on those first initial processes on those knives altogether. Then I'll move on to the next stage.
I use the forge for all of my smaller knives and essentially what we're doing is we're heating the metal and then using the hammer to hammer out the metal, lengthen the metal, to give us a longer, smoother material. And I don't do that with the chef's knives because I want to leave that grater on the side of the knife.
So with the larger chef's knives, I've already cut out the pieces in Vermont with an oxy acetylene torch and then once I get them here, I start the stock removal process. So I start with my bench grinder, grinding away the excess metal on one side to leave the grater on the other.
And then I'll move to my belt sander, and using a series of belts that go from very coarse to very fine, I'll bring that blade down to a fine edge and make it all shiny and smooth and sharp.
Each piece, depending on the way that it looks, it calls for a different piece of wood. So I'll shuffle through a lot of wood to find the right wood for the right knife.
And we'll cut out the wood, we will sand the handle a little bit, then we'll drill the holes, glue it together, clamp it, and then wait for it to cure. I usually let it cure for about 24 hours.
Then we'll take that off, sand the handle down, all the excess glue off the edges. And then we'll put a final sharpen on the blade, oil up the handle, and it's ready to go off and cut some vegetables.
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She has single-handedly proved that hipsterism is a legitimate illness, together with destroying everything that is holy in knifemaking. Good grief.
She's using crap metal that will not hold an edge for long, she's not just cutting blanks with a saw, she's blow torching them out, resulting in a super weak edge where the carbon has been leached out of the steel. Fucks sake.. she's just selling the npvice knife that every noob tries cos it's cheap: The "old file knife"....
See her holding that blacksmith hammer? She clearly has never had to forge anything and just does stock removal, but they made her pose for the cameras.
@@alanwalker6708 I'm a professional knife sharpener, I feel about as offended by her technique as the knife makers here are with her blacksmithing skill.
Hard to understand why those are so expensive...
Alex French Guy Cooking hi
Indeed, funny how she doesn't even quench and temper the knives. Will crack like plastic when accidentaly hitting a bone or something.
@@leehongjin6884 the difference is those Katanas aren't shit and these knives are.
@@AlucardTheVampire5784 How can you judge a knife without even trying it first?
Her entreupreneurship is commendable to me. Society needs more people that are willing to try new ideas.
@@leehongjin6884 One thing different about these knives is the price is a scam. Those horseshoe rasps she's making them out of she can get for free. She's not doing hardly any work to them nor is she doing the proper work. The heat treat and quench is integral to the blade's durability and if there's no heat treat and quench your blade can easily break. She doesn't even do that. Also have you ever even seen a video of her work? It's a headache because she really doesn't know what she's doing. You can even see a couple examples of her incompetence in this video. For example she was grinding with gloves on and could've gotten a glove caught and severely injured herself. Also holding her handle material in her hand where she could've punctured herself with the drill instead of stabilizing the material on a table where she could easily align and drill holes. Her blades are nothing but overpriced and overrated garbage.
$800 for a scrap metal knife? Eh, no thanks. I need top of the line steel for that price.
Elliot Dagger steel is steel, but the craftsmenship is tough man
those rasps are 1095 steel
TheGamingPharaoh which is not a smart steel to use for a corrosive environment that is kitchen knives
CrookedCuber That is just so wrong. D2 for example is better than the steel she uses, and its actually pretty cheap, but she just has to use the almost free, used, filthy rasps.
@@kambranictay1 1095 is great and all but I wouldn't want a chefs knife made out of it.. any knife used for food processing is better off being made of a high carbon stainless for both corrosion and sanitary reasons. Leave 1095 to bush knives and the like
Watching the entire process, the end results, and knowing the steel. Its hard not to be offended by all of this.
it's worse than anyone reading this comment could do on a 2 day beginner knife course.
Hmm never seen any celebrity chefs using these knives...
more like horny journalists or feminist journalist wanted to make a story out of a female "black Smith "
Exacly. Those are horendously overpriced as well. Craftsmen make better more complicated items for less
MrPanos2000 Most pro chefs I’ve seen use Shun, Wusthof or JA Henckels, not this one-off function over form stuff
@@jackofspades664 hello Russian bot
@@karensmith6074 Lol you wish . Which loser are you?
Leaving the textured surface on the rasp knives is really dumb. It's just going to resist gliding through food and be nearly impossible to clean and dry effectively.
Robert Coffey How else will she trick people with her piss poor knives and outrageous prices?
Her knives are overrated. I have one of hers and an old Kramer knife, and Kramer's are objectively superior.
Justin Moua I would imagine so. Bob Kramer is actually a certified mastersmith and she... ...isn't. the vast majority of Kramer knives are made by Zwilling to his specifications, so the performance should be reasonably good. Actual hand-made Kramer knives are considered impeccable works of art and fetch high prices from Western chefs who love the tall, thin blades and substantial belly.
Remember people with liberal arts degrees don't think logically.
I agree. That was my observation. Also poor quality steel, mediocre design.
it is the only thing that shows the trash steel it was made of
Secret Ingredient to all gourmet food...
Horse shoe dust...
Jerry C Well then she is wasting a perfectly good rasp, makes her look even more like an idiot.
@Jerry C She actually does according to her own website "Chelsea Miller Knives are made from discarded farm tools and horse files."
If my date says "I make knives.. " on first approach..
I would confess everything...
lmao
overlukk that’s what I was thinking lol
Depends on the knifes actually
might skin you alive :P
overlukk I’d stop the date and say “show me”
Yeah, even a casual knife collector like me can tell this is overpriced af borderline to a scam.
Croz Raven If you’re real collector you should have known she doesn sell them for 800$
I got mine from her face to face for 80$ like the above one
She said we in this video,
Which she refers to a renowned blacksmith from her family to do the actual finish and material ..
Aaron Noel then that means she didn’t do shit.
Bob Ross lover she made the cheap one and shes the one who market their product
Aaron Noel 80 is still too much. At most they are worth a 10.
I made a knife like this with a rasp but by hand with file work on the spine and a tooled sheath took me probably 30 hours in total so far I’ve been offered 20$ for it or probably worth about 250$
I’m a full-time knife maker. I made a knife like hers as a goof one day. It took me about 40 minutes total. Sucks to think I could be making $1200/hr if I were a pretty girl.
Welcome to the modern world...
@@animamundii racist
@@Katrielle-q6q Go eat a bat
@@tetleytea885 ur racist
@@Katrielle-q6q Is that the only word you know ?
this kinda offends me as a blacksmith
13freitag13 haha ikr recycled horse shoe grinders selling for $800 basically
Me too
Well she must be somewhat good considering what chef use them
Anonymous i assure you they dont use knifes like that 😂
Pralay Aryan its called marketing she probably pay them and giving them one of her knife and say they use it... did you know restaurent have strict hygiene restriction , she is using horse rasp for her knives and she dont even clean up the sides of the rasp🤷♂️
3:23 she's drilling into her hand
And she doesn't use a respirator! I have no idea how she is still alive
So basically she's selling sharp files for $800, i call bullshit on an amateur knife maker
Richard Ramos Yeah she's pretty shit. She hurts other actual good knife makers like Bob Kramer with her poor quality tagged with outrageous prices.
Why was her hair not tied back working with so many spinning devices
No One notice at one point she was about to drill towards her own hand as well but they tried cutting the camera before she did it.
@@StudentOfWarCustoms i know thats so stupid, and the handle look too short and bulky
Because she is an idiot? :)
She just a scammer. She doesnt know anything about knife making or blacksmith
Because she’s a super professional world renowned knife maker and millions of famous chefs only use her knives because they totally don’t suck at all!🙄
Any chef that buys these is pretty uneducated. First off they are made of poor quality steel, which won’t keep an edge. They aren’t precisely sharpened. They have an awful finish. And they are impossible to clean.
Only The Best I think you’re uneducated too to think this knife is not sharp enough and to have a Japanese grade butter smooth finish. Just to let you know the one on the video is not 800$, i had mine for 80$ from her face to face and i never regretted since
Aaron Noel I apologize, I’m talking about Chelsea’s knives
The metal used for the cutting edge isn't the original horse rasp. I can only assume it's more suitable as a blade.
@@aaronnoel2645 lol, if you ONLY want to talk about sharpness, a $1 knife can be as sharp as japanese/german knifes. Or i can even make a butter knife just as sharp either. It doesn't specifically have to be her knife. Japanese/german knifes is expensive because they consider a lot of things to make a knife, while her knifes is expensife just because it's aesthetic. Just like everyone else said, they way she make knifes is completely wrong.
the woodcutter i dont think you get my memo
Props to her for being able to sell stock removal knives for more than 150$
Nothing wrong with stock removal, but yeah her knives are junk.
Didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. Most of the knives I’ve made are stock removal. But I’ve never seen one go for over 150$
Well all my knives are stock removal, just got commissioned for a $450 one... Most expensive one I made and sold was $550.
that’s pretty impressive. I hope I can get to that point myself one day.
Thanks man, maybe your knives are worth more than what you're selling them for.
The way she moves makes it look like she has no idea what she is doing.
she makes it look like shes the one putting all the work in front of the screen.. in reality she has other people working in the factory lol
She doesn't lol
Anybody who knows anything about blacksmithing, knows that this is defenetly not 800$.
Is this a joke? She flips over a knife at the end and you can see a multitude of scratches on the metal. What is the Rockwell hardness on these knives? What is the angle of the grind? sorry but I would never pay that kind of money when I can have a really good German or Japanese knife for less. Just not worth it.
German or japanese knife SET for less a decent wusthof 7 piece knife set is around the price of these as far as I know but I don't know much about kitchen knives so
Has to be a joke.
If she’s using horse graters they shouldn’t be that expensive
For that price I'd rather just get Japanese knives.
Which are inferior to a regular chef knife... Although a rasp doesn't make that good of a knife.
Japanese knifes are the best in the world. What are you talking about lol
I don't like them. Their steel isn't good enough and I don't like assymetrical grinds.
Asymmetrical grinds are only on traditional knives like kiritsukes, yanagibas etc; I'm talking about Japanese makers who create western style, double ground knives. Also, Japanese knives have better heat treatment so their HRC is much higher than western knives, which also gives them better edge retention. These, along with other factors, mean that Japanese knives are objectively superior to Western knives.
No offence, but you don't know shit about knifes
If you’re using recycled horse graters, they should definitely not be that expensive
It's kind of unethical when you think about it. A Farrier's rasp which is so cheap it might as well be free, re purposed and sold for about a 7000% markup.
Horse graters?
Pieces of equipment that grates a horse?
Phuong Truong yea, the metal she used is recycle horse nail grater
Its not the case of the material. Any steel is relatively incredibly cheap compared to the finished product. Its the process of making it into a knife .
Alex she's just grinding it into shape. The big ones shes not making her own demascus then forging the knife. Shes literally just doing like 4 hours of grinding
No lady, you're not making knives, you're just sharpening some chunk of metal.
@Joseph Roberts She is literally sharpening a used piece of cheap scrap steal and calling it a professional quality knife, calling that professional quality would be like saying a power wheels is the same as a mercedes.
Sharpening is what makes a knife actually function. Though I agree this is a joke, the way she went about putting a blade on that knife was pathetic. Didn't even do a cut test.
2:28
I’m more impressed with the fact that she’s able to sell those for that price than the fact that she makes the knives.
Ridiculous.
Props to her though.
The only thing that makes the knives "worth" so much is the fact someone is willing to pay that much.
Like diamonds.
You're a smart guy.
Aiden Aidens well diamonds are useful if your a smith ironically, they’re just about the only thing that can cut through hardened steel with ease.
Diamonds are an actual rarity which gives them a value, they also have practical applications in tools, and ofcourse, they look pretty.
@@JamFlexx not as rare as you think.
Jam Flex this isn’t Minecraft bud. They’re not too rare.
I know two people who've bought these knives. Both arrived with a very dull blade, one pitted along the edge. Both people did not have sharping stones or the know how to bring them up to snuff on their own. These are trash without the slightest bit of technicality behind them. She cuts and grinds to a shape she's familiar with and thinks that is all there is to it. No skill, just pretty.
@@sssagarsuman That's her entire marketing strategy, she's a woman. If it was a guy making these there would not be scores of videos on them.
They deserve being scammed if they didnt have enough common sense to tell this is obviously bullshit.
These "knives" have been discussed ad nauseam on various knife and culinary forums, the TL/DR is they are overpriced novelty items with questionable grind, profile and heat treatment. I really doubt any of the chefs mentioned actually use them, for example Bottura is a fan of Takamura knives, which would be far superior. I can't help but wonder why Business Insider would advertise these with a misleading headline which would make the average consumer want to buy one… smh
Business insider are merely bullshits.
She is giving them 40% of the money made.
I kinda feel like this is just plain silly. I commend her effort and interest in the trade, but charging people $800 for a knife made from a farriers rasp?!? I'd rather pay less than half of that for a Kramer/Henckles or a Shun. I get the whole "handmade artisan" thing, but come on, there's handmade stuff out there for a fraction of the cost with much better aesthetics, materials, edge retention, cutting ability, and etc. Stuff like this just kinda soils the names of the more experienced craftsman that do this for a living
Also if you want a farriers rasp knife that bad, make one... they cost like less than 20 bucks and a day of your time. A ton of TH-cam tutorials on how to go about doing it
Shawn England Yeah Her knives are overrated. I have one of hers and an old Kramer knife, and Kramer's are objectively superior.
True i agree
The whole time I was wondering what is was. I mean is it the pretty face? Does a rasp actually grate cheese better than a grater? Maybe it's the shit I mean rustic look that makes the chefs stand out from thier peers. IDK
As a chef knife is not just about steel and handles etc. its like driving a Ferrari when u can afford it. Knife also does define you in the kitchen.
Me at the beginning: ayy these knives look pretty cool
*reads comments
Me: nevermind
homie senate p that’s what I’m doing rn 😂
Sameeee I was like oh shit does she forge everything or something special, then I’m like oh she just repurposes horse nail files and charges Apple prices😐.
This shows how important marketing and connections are in comparison to the actual product. She still makes the knives, but there are many creators and bladesmiths that can do the same thing at a fraction of that price. With the amount of exposure she has gotten, a show with her learning from smiths with good reputations and business skills too might do great. So learning how to create the steel you want, choosing a knife profile, what other tools to use, and how to finish the product.
That is not 800 dollars, first off I'm gonna need to know the steel of the knife, and second, what the hell was that finish on the blade it looked terrible
Justin Moua true and when cutting a tomato it will be teard appart
the steel os probably a steel aliminum mix and the small bit of actual steel is probably garbage steel
farriers rasps are 1095 steel
@@thegamingpharaoh6996 not all of them. Some can be case hardened, which makes them useless.
@@thegamingpharaoh6996 Wth are you going to do with a low carbon steel like 1095 for a kitchen knife? dumbest idea ever.
800$? That's some serious upcost you are doing there you damn shark.
She basically grinds down a farriers rasp and sells it for 800 bucks ... Finnesing folks out here lmao the small more labor intensive knives are 200???
looks cool, but the design is terrible. who wants to spend the time to scrub out the food bits that's gonna get stuck in the rasp side?
Ale X good point
Also think about how much it would hurt to pinch grip the knife
I think it would come out pretty easy. You don't put these knives in a dishwasher anyways. also if you are buying a $800 knife you probably already know how to clean and take care of it.
If you're buying an $800 knife one would at least assume you'd know what makes a good knife and how it should cut. Her geometry is all wrong, poorly finished, gimmicky-grater, they look like a 13 year old made them in his/her shed and the steel is sub-par... Especially for $800 you'd want something made of steel better than the lowest quality case-hardened, garden variety carbon steel used to make farrier's rasps. If she was selling these for $75 it would be acceptable, but these junk-yard garbage knives for premium prices is a disgrace to knifemaking.
What are you saying? That if I promote enough I can sell junk for extortionist rates too? That would be "earning" it right... Nothing morally bankrupt about that. She didn't earn anything, people have bought into bullshit and hype and throw away their money for sharpened rasps.
3:23 that's not safe
S MA with all her expierience I think it isn't.
john ildine orquejo drilling a hole through a piece of wood with your hand behind is dangerous even if she has experience one mistake and she won't be able to make knives for a while.
S MA Lol read this as it played
Speedy Rob66 lol
SimplisticTV If you’ve ever used a cordless drill you know it’s one of the safest power tools out there. Even if you hit your hand it won’t grab. The worst that can happen is a little nick. The possibility of that nick is far better than taking the time to clamp it down, especially with small pieces of wood. So yes, it’s not safe but it’s definitely not going to severely injure you. Not worth the fuss.
I’ll stick to handmade Japanese Kamikoto blades.
Jane Leelavathi h
Lmao, true
Kamikoto are not handmade they're drop forged and genuinely awful; you just bought the Herbalife of Japanese knives - single bevels that have flat backs instead of an ura.
Kamikoto knives are neither Japanese nor handmade.
my friend, dont waste money on Kamikoto. they are just good adverstising, go with the the real tradition brands like yaxell. all the best
You all know those Chefs came to her because they thought buying her knives was an excuse to ask her out. Little did they know she probably cut them all down.
So she just grinds down and sharpens a old piece of scap metal and charges $800 for it?? Yeah no thanks!
Chelsea Miller’s knives are objectively terrible. Her technique is poor to non-existent, her use of recycled metals hipster nonsense, and her shop safety practices are bad. I’ve seen videos of her grinding the temper right out of a blade (ruining it). I’ve seen a video of her drilling with one hand, holding the object she was drilling in her other hand (and then follow up footage of a suspiciously placed gauze bandage on the hand doing the holding. She’s not good. Not by a mile.
Right, it looks really dangerous. She has only ONE welding glove, and apparently she cannot even afford (or make, for that matter) a whetstone holder (1:42), despite charging $800 a pop?
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TruthNerds that sharpening technique is awful too bet she charges by the hour lmao
I am glad it wasnt just me thinking that. I dont want to be critical but for a person to name drop top chefs and charge that sort of money... the knives, the shop, the techniques etc should be the best in the industry. I call bullshit here.
you can see it in this video at 3:14 , blade is blue...
@@TruthNerds Those knives aren't even heat treated. I heard someone say she should be on forged in fire. If she was on the show it would be renamed ground in sparks
Oh good I love horse hoof particles in my food
Big Boy 😆😆😆 Those things would be impossible to clean!
Chelsea: I make the best knives all by myself
Japan: YOU DARE OPPOSE ME MORTAL
Wow! 800 bucks for a stock removal reclaimed steel knife! Rent must be rediculous in Brooklyn.... because you can buy a forged Carter, Wilburn, or Rader for that much...and they're all ABS master smiths.
Her knives look so amateur.
True
Then why tf you kids here?
Yeah I think the people buying this stuff are more going in for the artistic appeal
Clark Mcspeed correct she gets like a $400 profit
DANK SAUCE she probably gets the rasps for free from farmers so she makes an 800 dollar profit
Nice lady, pretty knives. Not worth $800 though
George Diaz I agree, not seeing $800 in the final product.
Nice, but not $800
I have hand made Japanese knives and only paid half that in Japan!
Not cut down files.
Fatih Celik Nah, high end chef or not, it’s a cut down $5 file from a junk sale with a knife cut out of it.
It’s an expensive curio.
A fool and their money are easily parted.
I agree, nice lady, pretty knives but not worth close to $800
If you know anything about quality hand forged knives (which even I don’t but can see this is not worth $800) you know this is not quality, and definitely will not hold a sharp edge for long.
Adrian Allen The edge will break because it’s brittle
neither does she, obviously.
She doesn't forge the ferriers rasp into knives? Just basically cut them out then grind them down?
ljcool17 its not even well polished
ljcool17 good thing I don't have a d
ljcool17 she charges to much for suck shitty process
It takes a lot of skill to make a new knife out of any material. Sure it isn't a Hand Forged Japanese knife set that those run for like $3000.
+shehan soysa My issue is the non forging of the rasp and carrying that kinda price tag. Don't know if she tempers it either after grinding it into shape. So the quality of the blade is questionable.
I wonder why she got promoted by business insider, wired, eater & bloomberg since she is not skilled at all. Some ideology or cronyism must be behind that ...
Boi she makes like 120% profit my father is a blacksmith and I used to make knives with him out of old rasps too. Those old rasps that a farrier give to you for free. So she is making something that literally takes one day and 2 hours to make ( the day is from curing the glue from the handle) something that is basically make out of high carbon steel and sharp that was once free and then jacking the price up $200-$800
Only swearing chef that matters is gordon ramsay!
jrod898 I'm not a good person soooooo....... I don't know who that is...😐
... and Gordon Ramsay uses a Wusthof Classic Ikon in his TH-cam cooking videos.
Gordon Ramsey isn’t a chef, he is a actor more than anything.
Lance Cobb "Gordon Ramsey isn’t a chef," and I'm a fucking turkey.
Lol
Smart! She knows the Hollywood game. She is making a recognized knife with a lot of back story and charging celebrities too much for them.
Where TF is the quenching? Sub 50$ knives get heat treated but 800$ ones don't?
Shes Amazing, her knives price are so sharp that cuts every professional blacksmiths ego and pride. My neighbor ordered one, and filed buncruptcy a day later. 😢
I would not pay 800 for a horse rasp that was just ground into a blade.
3:23 uhh...
SonntagDogtag ...waiting for a loose glove string to get wrapped up in that bench grinder. Safety 1st!
lmaoo
Not that bad. The worst that can happen is a little poke.
Treble Hook And an untrue hole mate
I saw that too
That is not a 800$ knife my dude
the knife is $50, the peek at the cleavage is $750
Cthulhu Christ 😂😂
Cthulhu Christ must be a hell of cleavage for that price.
michael vito paa Yup
Cthulhu Christ $500.00 maybe for the tits
From both a knife collector and culinary trained nut job, t us a terrible steel type for a knife and also very unsanitary due to the pitting of the "grater"
Dirty Gingy and the whole process is poor, that’s not real forge!
Zoë Lkjsdhf what about it? Looks very flashy but not much substance and I noticed a typo just glancing the FAQ page
Rafael C.T That is a propane gas forge made by Majestic Forge
You have to use a sanitizing chemical in the dishwashing process. But the handle won’t hold up to that.
That's all I was thinking the whole video
Hey good job on her for marketing a shortcut, recycled metal knife for that much. Absolutely can not see how she justifies 800 bucks for one but she pulls it off. So good job.
That’s marketing at its finest, i wish I could sale my leaf spring knifes lol.
This is a joke.....right??? I really hope so because she does NOT know how to make knives properly or safely. This is an insult to knifemaking.
It’s basically just a sharpened CHEEZE GRATER Like COME ON you can’t do any better?
Lets be honest here shes only successful because shes a woman and every promotes her to be progressive, look at the guy on forged in fire that made knifed for Presidental shefs his knifes where actually world class and about half as much as hers
Did you see the wood she used to make a knife handle. I really feel like this was a sharks tank pitch. Just a Pretty face selling an item
Or maybe she is good at making knives???
Honestly this makes me sick watching this bullshit, because these sheep people buy into stupid junk like this and think it’s the coolest shit ever, and “how could It be bad, it’s made by a pro knife maker!!??” I hate 2018
That finish on the blade is kinda ugly to be honest, no hand sanding I suppose.
Chelsea miller: i make the best knives
Japan: *Hold my beer*
*sake
Terrible material choice, terrible finish on the surfaces. I've seen knifemakers on youtube make knifes 20 times as sharp and polished, are those worth 16000 dollars then? This is a combination of she being a woman, recycling and trendy hipster buyers. Those knifes are worth 50 to 150 dollars.
She didnt temper or heat treat it. The knives are worth less than 20$.
Farrier rasp is already hardened, no need to do it again.
Sorry but no way in hell would I pay or charge 800 bones for a dirty old ferriers rasp.
True. Not for those knives.
Right? Why not take actual raw steel and not already heat treated Metal like those knifes take probably 1-2 hours each not even ive made multiple before and there very easy. Real forging is much harder
Yeah right
No way that's worth $800 😂 what a rip
Coach Ro4st what?
7 years of experience for $800 vs 30+ years for $500...
I’m not saying that her work isn’t good, but she isn’t doing anything special other than forging the knife by hand. Like there’s nothing exceedingly extraordinary about the materials or craftsmanship to make it 800 bucks
Daniel Eid it’s true 800 dollars for a sharpened horse hoof file?
she does a poor job at forging too...
glue drop It’s not hard to go to ikea and grab some knifes for about 5 bucks lol
yeah and even better for about 15$ you could get a Mora which could last a lifetime!
Why would I want a knife that makes chefs swear?
Jake O'Gorman heh
funny guy
"THIS IS FOOKIN RAWWW"
NINOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Tarith Samson this squid is so raw it's playing the clarinet
I would not pay $30 for one of those knives never mind $200, especially considering it's it's a horse file sharpened to a knife
3.23 you got a hole in that hand
Tanmay Nafe her dad makes the knives she sells them
john john she makes them
I understand what you meant I don’t know what these other people who replied are talking about
heartless2047 hes talking about her drilling a hole into her hand 🤚 with the drill obviously you idiot
Tanmay Nafe it's 3:23
Chef Hiroyuki Terada is the only chef on the celebrity status. Good afternoon
yflan 😂😂
200-800 dollar price tag for a single knife made from shit material that probably cost 10-20 dollars to make 🤔
Well aren't you just something.
Since when is D2 steel an shit material
Agreed on the $20 but farriers rasps are isually made from 1084 (correct me if im wrong on that)and i know that this steel is fantastic. Beats the shit out of any stainless.
As for the £800 price tag....no. maybe for someone who puts more work into it but that knife at the end looks like it was made by a 10 year old kid.
great, then I expect you will be turning out the same quality knives for 10% of her price, right?
Now you get it!
Still better than iPhone
I'm not eating in any restaurant where the chef uses his knife as a grater...
Like you can afford eating out. Shut up and swallow your ramen like a big boy.
Okay...
AD ASTRA are you racist?
AD ASTRA damn, you really made a fool of yourself
Not actually expensive for a custom knife. The materials could be better though. Maybe ZDP-189, Super Blue or something along those lines as opposed to the 1095-type steel of a rasp.
Rodrigo Teresa this would be true, but her fit and finish is pretty bad, kind nuts that makers like cut Brooklyn sells his knives "only" for about 500 and he has more overhead costs
Rodrigo Teresa Also didn't mention anything about heat treatment. So whe she takes it out of the forge she hammers the shit out of it and then it's comparable to a 5usd wallmart knife.
also, epoxy glue? on an $800 knife? all my knives are made with solid brass peened rivets, which actually take some skill and attention to detail to peene down on a wood handle without damaging the wood and not just grinding them down with a belt sander to make them flush. My knife handles are mostly made of ringed gidgee, expensive and hard to find and even harder to work, I think it's maybe the 3rd hardest timber in the wolrd?
Rodrigo Teresa Yeah maybe w2 too
Finally People who truly understand what makes a good quality knife
Overrated overpriced
Stanlley Pajdak how do you know
Moises Hernandez, Because it is.
TheLegend27 you have experience with one of those knives
It's like any other knife... you can sharpen it and have a similar feel. From a way cheaper knife
Stanlley Pajdak the knives are worth what world-class chefs are willing to pay. That's her market, not peasants who complain about their value on TH-cam, mate..;)
Cute knives. However I was definitely expecting a lot more. Not worth the price. All the chef's I've worked with have worked years with sub $100 knives. Hell they swear by stainless.
I can understand dropping cash on fine-ish forged Knives like Shun or Miyabi for fine cuts but paying this much is completely unnecessary.
Unnecessary? It's completely absurd! She doesn't even heat treat the blades. Simple stock removal knives w/ mediocre scale material. Her material costs are next to nothing, complete rip off!
Chiefbigcorn is there any possible way you could tell me what kind of knive is that, and how to get them? it's hard to find a good one from where I live. It would be great if you can link the website where your chefs bought it.. thanks in advance
Luandy for a low end Japanese chef's knife (it's widely agreed the Japanese make the best knives in the world) have a look at the Tojiro DP range. They should be well within budget. Which country are you from?
Stephen P thank you for the information Stephen. I'm from Indonesia. Btw, do you have any experience buying Tojiro's product? Like what should I prepare for overseas purchasing, or minimum order, and tips on choosing my knife without holding it first? I'm sorry for lots of questions. I'm new about this knife thing and most of the advices are the more expensive the knife the better.
I don't have a Tojiro myself, but I do own three Japanese knives (but they're all well over $100). Chefknivestogo, stevegamache, mrknifefanatic, cguarin all have very in depth videos about Japanese knives. The Tojiro DP is widely recommended as a good reasonably priced introduction to Japanese knives: th-cam.com/video/nTiqtJ4Dliw/w-d-xo.html
One thing that is very important with knives is learning how to sharpen them. All knives (no matter how expensive get blunt). You can sharpen a very cheap knife so it's razor sharp:
th-cam.com/video/7dFFEBnY0Bo/w-d-xo.html&
There are cheap 1000/6000 grit whetstones such as the one made by King that should do the job with some patience and a bit of practice.
That thing is worth less than 50 bucks imo
Taqqee Maudhoo the thing is worth less than the horse shoe file that she stock grinded it from.
That is just a rip off. first she didn't quench the blade.all she did was sharpen a stamped piece of metal and put a handle on it.
Second builds knife out of $5 rasp and makes it $800 when it can barely survive when chopping at bones and such.
That's just absolutely stupid I've been making knives since I was just 10 and I have never sold one of my knives over $500 swords, machetes not included
The video probably doesn't show the entire process, if ya want you can go and ask her personally.
@@leehongjin6884 by the looks of her forge in the video I don't see an gas or solid file forge anywhere
I hope to god that this only for the video to capture and show her off and not her actually always working.... Most of what she does is unsafe and dangerous. She is grinding it with gloves on instead of taking them off. She is holding the peice of wood in her hands while drilling... Wow.
Esso Janahi yeah she almost drilled into her hand.
I bought 2 of her small knifes and they broke in a week
Really? Not suspecting you but I don't think you can break a knife chopping into onions, meat, etc. Maybe its your own fault you dropped it
@@leehongjin6884 its kind of funny, im reading through these threads and you are commenting on them trying to protect her. i've been making knives for a while now and she is not making very good ones. i would not be surprised if the OP is telling the truth. her knifes are made out of cheap steel and she does not even use the proper techniques to make a good knife. her larger knifes that are made out of HORSESHOE RASPS are cheaply made, to put it in basic terms. horseshoe rasps are not a reliable source for good high carbon steel and can sometimes, have pretty crappy steel that will not hold an edge or for instance; break while using them.
also the "originality" of putting the grater in the knife is not original at all, and can actually be quite a pain for the chef if they're chopping something and its constantly rubbing up against their fingers (grating their skin).
p.s. she is using dangerous habits in her shop and im surprised she hasn't hurt herself yet
I doubt this.
@@johnmelenokis7884 i broke a knife by cutting an onion and someone believes me - gunnery 223
dude you're like 12. don't lie like that please
I’ve never seen a knife made from it” literally most people start making them
Ryan Yonka I made my first knife from a file.
prank aleks exactly my point most people start out from them because their cheap and high carbon
Ryan Yonka I think it’s that most people don’t leave them though.
I'll make one out of a toothbrush
Gonna shank some bitches huh?
3:13. I believe she shuffles through a lot of wood :P
800$?! For THIS? OMG... I have to start value my knives better then...
If these are worth $800 than your knives could probably sell for 20-30 grand.
Jimmy Grey
I hope so! :-D
Grzegorz Świaczny Yeah just buy Kramer or Shun knives. True craft and quality for the buck.
Since I can't even find a review of these knives online, hard pass. Step it up business insider. Or is that the whole point of the video? The woman must be a good businessman to be able to get people to pay that much for relative junk?
Je t'aime she probably flirts with every single customer.. how else would somebody pay 800 for a farriers rasp
You try making a farriers rasp into a knife. Good damn luck. A lot of hours go into a knife. However, this video is probably made because she is a woman. The way she prices knives based off size is unusually fluctuating
Alex dude.... Anyone can make a knife out of a farriers rasp lol everything has been done for you the heat treat,the stock thickness, the straightness. It's like every beginner knife maker project
So I generic knife made with substandard materials... *grate*
I see what you did there!
(Nice pun)
whats substandard about the materials?
A damn good scam artist
Thicc Boi true
@Urban Chaos Scammed people are willing to pay those prices.
@Urban Chaos Good morning, we just said the same thing.
These are handcrafted knives, she puts her blood and sweat to making these knives. If top-class chefs use her knives, its proof she makes great knives.
bob thompkins think you summed up exactly why male chefs will pay up to 800 usd for these knives. She isn’t even forging her own metal!!
I get her niche but it's objectively not worth 800... I'd give 80 at most and it would still be steep. This isn't Bob Kramer or mareko maumasi...
axelsaulean $80 Fucking dollars?
This mongoloids hobbyist projects are worth null.
They’re worth $20 at best.
They have an uneven finish, a poorly designed handle, an extremely rustic and basic blade shape.
Not to mention she’s using Scrap metal and off cuts of wood she found laying around at a lumber market.
CrimsonSkyz don't forget you're also using a repurposed hoove scraper
Its lucky you aint the target audiance she sells to lol.
She is smart and dosent waste time selling to people with no spare cash
not stabilised wood, she doesn't even know how old the wood is so no control over water content ----> cracks.
the finish, yeah, just calling it a "finish" is an insult
Sean Cockburn she's smart bc she's selling to dumb people not bc the knives are amazing
Her knives seem like snake oil
I hate to tell these chefs but they are being screwed over!
For that price.. i can get a better knife, with a better finish, better seath and better material. $800 us dollar in Indonesia u can get sanmai. Those junk knives becomes expensive just because a woman who make it.
saya pikir juga begitu kawan,,terlalu mahal untuk pisau yg terbuat dr kikir,,kepedean x
@daAnder71 dude $700 is way too much for a plane ticket to Indonesia. The price for the plane ticket is much less than that, I'm sure. And thrn you could take the rest of the money and buy tons of other stuff from Indonesia because item price here are cheap
Im forging and making knifes, tomahawks, axes and machetes in Germany (damascus, San Mai, high quality steel and cheaper, recycled steel Blades) for about 50-300€... My Chefs knife made out of recycled steel cost about 120€ and i swear, without those rasp-marks they look much better and are easier to clean...
She's beautiful....
She is a joke she's making knifes with a hard brittle steel doesn't even know how to properly use anything and is selling them for 800 dollars. It looks like she has never picked up a hammer until that video.
It would take about 2 mins to know if she really makes knives or not, look at her hands
I'm not buying it, imgur.com/gallery/4wXJD
Your right not black from metal dust or scared from burns or cuts
lmaoooo
THe only way to know for sure is to get a handy
O'keeffe's working hands is magic
I'm not buying these unless Gordon Ramsay does.
Is it just me or is the blade look quite unrefined and rustic. I'll probably go with japanese knives
She doesn't even look like she half knows what she is doing.
Her knives are not that appealing to the eye.
I rather buy a Japanese knife for a fraction of the price
Just get a belt grinder and a hunk of metal from anywhere and you can make the exact same knives yourself, for A LOT less than $800. What a scam.
IMO I don't like them, to me they look trashy with the file grooves still in and people will make much better knives for less than 800
She says "we" a lot but it's mostly just her making these knives 😂😂
To Business Inside,
Here, we have Marina Moschen!
ignMarcaugai yes, usually when you talk in a formal way about your work, you use "we". It sounds more professional.
She makes them with her daughter at times.
Niidea1986 "professional" doesn't always mean truthful.
Lemuel Suriel I am her daughter. And her mother.
wow these are realy poor quality knives
Her knives are overrated. I have one of hers and an old Kramer knife, and Kramer's are objectively superior.
way to spend a pc price on a knife.
Comparing this woman to Bob Kramer is so disrespectful to Bob Kramer. She's managed to convince the super politically correct that she's recycling something and they should pay $800 for it. She's taking a $10 item, spending two hours on a belt grinder, and charging you $800. This almost has to be a joke actually.