I found one of your videos by accident and started watching them. Then I found this vid and I realized that I had a similar reel on a pole that I let my GF use in the 90's. It was a Zebco 33 "Classic" USA model in gold with "Continuous Anti-Reverse". It is mounted on an old Eagle Claw graphite pole. It prompted me to dig that out and rebuild it. It was stiff and the drag didn't work at all, but it was interesting because it did not have the usual anti reverse mechanism like this Rhino model. It has a One way bearing on the center shaft. Anyway, I cleaned it up fixed the drag system and took it fishing the other day. I had no idea these could cast that far.. Thanks for these vids.. Subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing! Another great success story. Get those old Zebcos out. It they are not broken, they can be cleaned up and put back into service!
Good news, Matthew! I was able to remove the center, steel, pinion bushing on my 33 Rhino and I was able to place into it an oiled, SR188ZZ ball bearing. I was able to still grease the pinion and it fit perfectly through the bearing and up through the top. The cone still attached nice and tight. It is nice to have at least a little super-tuning to this 33 Rhino edition, I had plenty of them from the 90s and this is a great way to revitalize them.
Hello Matthew, How to be you these days for me things are not going well the Weather just doesn't want to come around so I can go out try my luck thinking about hanging every up and go back to RAILFANING lest Weather don,t matter when I do that well just want you to know that I'm still watching your video,s
Thanks for these videos, they have been extremely helpful! Where can I find parts for this reel? I am restoring my dad's 89 classic 33 Rhino, and need the big plastic ring on top of the spinner head. Thanks again!
reel parts are getting harder and harder to find. Even with new reels. Old Zebcos you shop ebay or find a donor reel. Try the Zebco Shop and Swap on Facebook.
The top of my reel won’t twist off, I’m re-furnishing this reel for a Christmas gift to my dad, how could I get the top off without breaking it? Thank you!
So the front cone won't come off? Often that happens when dirt and grit gets in there. There are a couple tricks. First, put it in a freezer for a couple hours. Take it out and give it a good twist. If that doesn't work, you can get an oil filter strap wrench. That won't mar the cone. As a last resort I have used a large channel lock adjustable wrench.
I cannot get my drag to work at all. I put the metal piece in as shown but then I cannot spin the drag wheel and there is no drag. Do you have any suggestions
I used TriFlow grease for sewing machines. It is a little lighter in weight and is awesome for the drags. Some people use petroleum jelly which seems to works very well on the drags.
iv got a few of these old ul3 1993 and one in 89 in a zebco 33 fantastic reel i need the 93 733 i can't find them any were i found another 800 from the 1960's little green giant reel do you want it was in rough shape but internally its good it has all its gears and anti revues switch the covers is faded and its period correct handle it had its combo rod im keeping it but i can part with the reel i have a extra
I found a 33 Classic in my late father’s greenhouse. It looks like it’s basically the same reel. It has a 1996 copyright date on it. What is the function of the soft gold color material on the bail cover? It’s broken all to pieces on mine. Are replacement parts available or is that when you toss the reel? I’m probably going to have to take it completely apart and clean and lube it. The drag isn’t working at all. It won’t loosen when you turn the dial. When I first found it, the main gear wouldn’t keep in contact with the drive gear and I found there was some rust on the shaft catching the little nylon keeper and it would work itself out. I got that cleaned up and got the anti reverse working. It will cast and reel and I caught a fish with it the other day. But if I can, I’d like to get it back in top shape
Can you send me a photo to outfishingthirteen@gmail.com of the part you are calling a "bail cover" I think you are talking about the spinner head assembly. That is the part that has the line pick-up pins. If so, that crumbling material is the line brake, and it's purpose is to hold the line between the spinner cone and the front cone when casting. Parts are no longer available from the manufacturer. I might have a spare one in my part's bucket. There is a Zebco Shop and Swap group on Facebook, you can try. It would be worth taking apart and doing a complete service on it. Those are very common Zebco 33s and were made for quite a number of year. I am sure you can get it back into tip top shape. Then you will have a little part of your dad with you when you take it fishing.
@@OutFishing13Matthew spinner head assembly is correct. Other Zebco reels, like my 404, don’t have the line brake, so I was wondering if that’s what it was. I was incorrect. It’s a 33L (Legacy), not a Classic.
@@tannertuner It should work without the line brake, but not as well. I don't have a spare one for the 33L. You can fix the rotting rubber line brake with a large O-Ring around the same size from a hardware store and epoxy it on the spinner head assembly.
I have an older Rhino Tough Zebco 33 which when I took the front cover off there was raised plastic part (on the reel assembly) that disintegrated. I looked at the website you suggested but not sure of the reel assembly would fit the rhino…any suggestions?
That is a common problem on older Zebco reels with the synthetic rubber line brake. You either need to find an old new stock spinner cone or repair the one you have. One the the best ways is to glue a large o-ring to the spinner cone.
My research has the old 33 reels all over the place. 2.2 to around 4.0. Thanks again. I just picked up a shakespeare Durango 2235rd. I can only find one service video that's not very good. It looks like it can be super tuned. If you have a chance can you make a service video, its a little complicated to disassemble. Ether way thanks I love what you do.
@@benwilson409 I don't have that particular reel. I do videos on what I have or reels I get from others to service. I am going to start doing services on my spinning reels.
@@benwilson409 That is true. The gear ratio can vary depending on the size of the reel, the model and year made. You can figure it out by counting the number of gears on the main gear and then the pinion. For example a 18 toothed main gear and 8 teeth on the pinion give you a 2.2:1 gear ratio. Sometime the reel has the ration on the reel.
Mathew. I bought a Zebco classic 44 and the 444. I used your video on the omega 154 as the anti reverse is the same. I have serviced them. Would you recommend line for them? I was considering Mono 10 lb. test . Thank you for your videos. I have learned so much . Thank you again!
Hi Mathew, I have a Zebco 33L Legacy that has the same anti reverse as this Rhino. I took the anti reverse apart, including removing the plastic actuator switch. Now the switch is very loose and does nothing. The reel is stuck with the anti reverse on. Do you have any suggestions as to what might be going on? Thank you.
Boy that is really tough to diagnose a reel I cannot look at. My only suggestion is to take it apart again and make sure it is put back together correctly. Something must be wrong. I rarely ever take those AR switches apart since the plastic gets old and hard. Make sure it stops in the off and on positions. I may make a video just on the AR for those reels. Send me some photos to Outfishingthirteen@gmail.com
I have the same reel. I'm missing the nylon washer that goes on top of the metal washer. I fabricated a replacement washer from a file folder for paper that's made of thin plastic. Is it ok to do that, or will that wear out the bottom of the spool?
I think you are good. Very ingenuitive. As long as the plastic is about the same thickness and oil resistant. Let me make some comparisons and see if there is something new you can use.
@@FishfearmeStudios I think you might really enjoy the new Zebco Omega or Bullet. My dad is 80 this year and he really enjoyed using a Zebco Omega Pro ZO2 this last fall fishing for white bass on Utah Lake. It was easy for this old hands to operate.
I’m the person who rescues reels like this at antique stores and fix them up and use them. They’re better then most reels these days.
The old USA made reels are durable and can easily be fixed. Thanks for the comment
Thank you so much for helping me restore my late grandfather's reel. It truly means the world to me!
You are welcome. Treasure your reel.
I found one of your videos by accident and started watching them. Then I found this vid and I realized that I had a similar reel on a pole that I let my GF use in the 90's. It was a Zebco 33 "Classic" USA model in gold with "Continuous Anti-Reverse". It is mounted on an old Eagle Claw graphite pole. It prompted me to dig that out and rebuild it. It was stiff and the drag didn't work at all, but it was interesting because it did not have the usual anti reverse mechanism like this Rhino model. It has a One way bearing on the center shaft. Anyway, I cleaned it up fixed the drag system and took it fishing the other day. I had no idea these could cast that far.. Thanks for these vids.. Subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing! Another great success story. Get those old Zebcos out. It they are not broken, they can be cleaned up and put back into service!
Etx reel service and repair, is the TH-cam channel that has the shakespeare Durango 2235rd service video. Thanks again
I saw that. That is a long video and the camera work was hard to see what was going on. Thanks for commenting.
Good news, Matthew! I was able to remove the center, steel, pinion bushing on my 33 Rhino and I was able to place into it an oiled, SR188ZZ ball bearing. I was able to still grease the pinion and it fit perfectly through the bearing and up through the top. The cone still attached nice and tight.
It is nice to have at least a little super-tuning to this 33 Rhino edition, I had plenty of them from the 90s and this is a great way to revitalize them.
cool! I would love to see a photo. Send me one to OutFishingThirteen@gmail.com
Excellent - thanks ! ! !
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You are welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hello Matthew,
How to be you these days for me things are not going well the Weather just doesn't want to come around so I can go out try my luck thinking about hanging every up and go back to RAILFANING lest Weather don,t matter when I do that well just want you to know that I'm still watching your video,s
Thanks Ed. The good weather is just around the corner. Get your gear ready and go soon.
@@OutFishing13Matthew Matthew OK I"ll hang in there for a while longer and please keep your video,s coming.
@@edwardroberts2997 ok
I still use my 33 Rhino
They are tough reels.
Thank you so much for your expertise with these reels - can you tell me where I can buy a replacement spinner cone for a zebco 89
Try this facbook page. facebook.com/groups/387880111984612 Zeboc Shop and Swap.
Thanks for these videos, they have been extremely helpful! Where can I find parts for this reel? I am restoring my dad's 89 classic 33 Rhino, and need the big plastic ring on top of the spinner head. Thanks again!
reel parts are getting harder and harder to find. Even with new reels. Old Zebcos you shop ebay or find a donor reel. Try the Zebco Shop and Swap on Facebook.
I don't have a rhino, I better pick one of these up and give it a spin so to speak !!
They are nice reels. Light and durable.
The top of my reel won’t twist off, I’m re-furnishing this reel for a Christmas gift to my dad, how could I get the top off without breaking it? Thank you!
So the front cone won't come off? Often that happens when dirt and grit gets in there. There are a couple tricks. First, put it in a freezer for a couple hours. Take it out and give it a good twist. If that doesn't work, you can get an oil filter strap wrench. That won't mar the cone. As a last resort I have used a large channel lock adjustable wrench.
Got a Johnson 710. The 710b with red letters. The front spool won’t come off. I tried oil. Wd40. Channel locks. It won’t budge. Any suggestions
Try putting it in the freezer overnight and then use a hairdryer to warm the cap.
@@OutFishing13Matthew It worked!! Praise the Lord!! Great idea!
I cannot get my drag to work at all. I put the metal piece in as shown but then I cannot spin the drag wheel and there is no drag. Do you have any suggestions
It is hard to say what is going on. Take a closer look?
What is the lube you are using? Not the redntacky, but the clear lube you are brushing on the drag washers? I have this same reel from the 90's.
I used TriFlow grease for sewing machines. It is a little lighter in weight and is awesome for the drags. Some people use petroleum jelly which seems to works very well on the drags.
iv got a few of these old ul3 1993 and one in 89 in a zebco 33 fantastic reel i need the 93 733 i can't find them any were i found another 800 from the 1960's little green giant reel do you want it was in rough shape but internally its good it has all its gears and anti revues switch the covers is faded and its period correct handle it had its combo rod im keeping it but i can part with the reel i have a extra
I might want it. Send me an email with a photo to OutFishingThirteen@gmail.com
@@OutFishing13Matthew ok sorry didn't see your comment ill send you a dm
I found a 33 Classic in my late father’s greenhouse. It looks like it’s basically the same reel. It has a 1996 copyright date on it. What is the function of the soft gold color material on the bail cover? It’s broken all to pieces on mine. Are replacement parts available or is that when you toss the reel?
I’m probably going to have to take it completely apart and clean and lube it. The drag isn’t working at all. It won’t loosen when you turn the dial. When I first found it, the main gear wouldn’t keep in contact with the drive gear and I found there was some rust on the shaft catching the little nylon keeper and it would work itself out. I got that cleaned up and got the anti reverse working.
It will cast and reel and I caught a fish with it the other day.
But if I can, I’d like to get it back in top shape
Can you send me a photo to outfishingthirteen@gmail.com of the part you are calling a "bail cover" I think you are talking about the spinner head assembly. That is the part that has the line pick-up pins. If so, that crumbling material is the line brake, and it's purpose is to hold the line between the spinner cone and the front cone when casting. Parts are no longer available from the manufacturer. I might have a spare one in my part's bucket. There is a Zebco Shop and Swap group on Facebook, you can try. It would be worth taking apart and doing a complete service on it. Those are very common Zebco 33s and were made for quite a number of year. I am sure you can get it back into tip top shape. Then you will have a little part of your dad with you when you take it fishing.
@@OutFishing13Matthew spinner head assembly is correct. Other Zebco reels, like my 404, don’t have the line brake, so I was wondering if that’s what it was.
I was incorrect. It’s a 33L (Legacy), not a Classic.
@@tannertuner It should work without the line brake, but not as well. I don't have a spare one for the 33L. You can fix the rotting rubber line brake with a large O-Ring around the same size from a hardware store and epoxy it on the spinner head assembly.
@@OutFishing13Matthew thank you so much!
@@tannertuner YW
I have an older Rhino Tough Zebco 33 which when I took the front cover off there was raised plastic part (on the reel assembly) that disintegrated. I looked at the website you suggested but not sure of the reel assembly would fit the rhino…any suggestions?
That is a common problem on older Zebco reels with the synthetic rubber line brake. You either need to find an old new stock spinner cone or repair the one you have. One the the best ways is to glue a large o-ring to the spinner cone.
Do you know the gear ratio of these 1990s rhinos ?
I don't know the exact ratio. But they are around 2.2
My research has the old 33 reels all over the place. 2.2 to around 4.0. Thanks again. I just picked up a shakespeare Durango 2235rd. I can only find one service video that's not very good. It looks like it can be super tuned. If you have a chance can you make a service video, its a little complicated to disassemble. Ether way thanks I love what you do.
@@benwilson409 I don't have that particular reel. I do videos on what I have or reels I get from others to service. I am going to start doing services on my spinning reels.
@@benwilson409 That is true. The gear ratio can vary depending on the size of the reel, the model and year made. You can figure it out by counting the number of gears on the main gear and then the pinion. For example a 18 toothed main gear and 8 teeth on the pinion give you a 2.2:1 gear ratio. Sometime the reel has the ration on the reel.
Thanks again, I just gave that reel a shot. I appreciate what you're doing.
Mathew. I bought a Zebco classic 44 and the 444. I used your video on the omega 154 as the anti reverse is the same. I have serviced them. Would you recommend line for them? I was considering Mono 10 lb. test . Thank you for your videos. I have learned so much . Thank you again!
10 lbs mono would be perfect. Stren, Trilene, or Sufix are all good brands. Zebco also makes a quality line.
Thank you!
Thank you for the video!!! What type of grease did you use?
Lucas Red and Tacky
OK, Matthew,
Check out Ebay too.
Will you do a cleaning of a Johnson 100 a vintage reel
I don't have a Johnson 100 vintage. Do you?
Hi Mathew, I have a Zebco 33L Legacy that has the same anti reverse as this Rhino. I took the anti reverse apart, including removing the plastic actuator switch. Now the switch is very loose and does nothing. The reel is stuck with the anti reverse on. Do you have any suggestions as to what might be going on? Thank you.
Boy that is really tough to diagnose a reel I cannot look at. My only suggestion is to take it apart again and make sure it is put back together correctly. Something must be wrong.
I rarely ever take those AR switches apart since the plastic gets old and hard. Make sure it stops in the off and on positions. I may make a video just on the AR for those reels. Send me some photos to Outfishingthirteen@gmail.com
Hi Mathew, I sent you some photos of my reel. Thanks.
@@comet7894 thanks. I looked at them and replied back.
Can this 33 ( rhino tough) be super tuned ?
No, it doesn't have the correct bushings for bearings
Thanks
@@benwilson409 yw
I have the same reel. I'm missing the nylon washer that goes on top of the metal washer. I fabricated a replacement washer from a file folder for paper that's made of thin plastic. Is it ok to do that, or will that wear out the bottom of the spool?
I think you are good. Very ingenuitive. As long as the plastic is about the same thickness and oil resistant. Let me make some comparisons and see if there is something new you can use.
Where do you purchase your parts ???
Www.tackleservice.com. but they only carry modern parts.
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Thanks. You need to try one out.
@@OutFishing13Matthew I had one as a kid and wore the gears completely out.
@@FishfearmeStudios I think you might really enjoy the new Zebco Omega or Bullet. My dad is 80 this year and he really enjoyed using a Zebco Omega Pro ZO2 this last fall fishing for white bass on Utah Lake. It was easy for this old hands to operate.
Hi Matthew,
would you care to sell this reel to me PLEASE!!!!!!!!
I might be able to do that. I will send you an email.