Lutron’s NEW 2022 Smart Dimmers Fix ALMOST Everything!
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- Lutron just announced new smart light switches that solve a LOT of the problems with the older Caseta switches!
Lutron Diva Smart Dimmer switches are available at Home Depot: homedepot.sjv.io/a1gx1Y
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Physical differences
1:30 Dimming improvements
2:34 Extra features
3:33 Is it PERFECT?
5:20 Problematic name...
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All right who all is going to be a Diva here? 🙋🏻♂
You can get these at Home Depot starting today if you’re interested: homedepot.sjv.io/a1gx1Y
About time! I have been quite critical of their old Caseta dimmer switches here and elsewhere as being too cheap and not at all well designed. Also wondered what was holding them back from integrating the smart technology into the Diva design that has been around forever to begin with - maybe they wanted to have a "disruptive design" but I feel if it ain't broken, don't fix it.. If they had introduced the Smart switch in the Diva form factor sooner, I would have invested in those and NOT have as many Kasa light switches in the house. And even now, I would hesitate switching over since the value of the Kasa switches is much better than the Lutron. Will be interesting to see how well these new switches are adopted with so much competition already in the smart switches space. BTW, are these (or going to be) Matter compatible?
It’s not online ????
What's the model number for the dimer and on/off switch or link to Home Depot?
I just bought a GE Cync that's a no-neutral wire as well. About 60% of the price.
@@marcesw35 any link?
I had converted almost every switch in the house except the bathrooms due to the prior dimmer buttons. I'll likely be getting some now with the physical slider. Thanks for the great review!
Currently slowly upgrading all our switches to Caseta switches. So far, the switches that are currently smart switches have been awesome and work flawlessly with Alexa and Homekit for me. Definitely worth it for me.
Man, I wish I had found your channel when we moved into our house in the same neighborhood! I'm catching up on your videos and found something I need to get in addition to so many things that we have in common.
The price is outrageous. As much as I'd like to get it, the price makes it an unreasonable purchase for my budget, specially when compared to competing products.
Your not wrong...there beyond crazy money now..and this isn't new technology..I mean it has nice features but how often do we really change the brightness level. Usually set it and forget it...sorry lutron
I just use non smart dimmers now. So much better than smart for most situations.
Absolutely agree. The price is outrageous.
this crap is a straight rip off lmao.
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While I wouldn't call it "crap", if its as good as the current Lutron Caseta line which I consider among the best. Installed many of them here and they've never given me any problems.
But I certainly do agree that price is ridiculous.....
Looks nice, LOVE the slider, nice features, and the tactile touch doesn't bother me. But the price, I just can't see paying double, sometimes triple the price. Just bought some Zooz dimmers for $23. Granted, these are better, but 3 times the price better, nope.
I have no experience with either of them, except at work where I've clicked one or two of them and agree they're squishy. but fixing the dimming setting issue is absolutely worth it to me, even if the new ones are squishier than the old
This is perfect timing. We just built a new home and I think I will go with these...
We've had the regular version for 15 years...still works and has a remote control. FYI, there's an auto off time feature, if you hold the down button it will turn off the lights after you release it. The longer you hold it (Indicated via the led) the more time until it turns off..
I'm in the process of swapping out my dumb switches for these. So far have two installed and they are amazing. I think they're worth the money with the value you add to your home.
I installed all Lutron Maestro Switches back in 2016 and they worked perfectly with 0 issues. My house does also have a lighting panel which controlls certain main areas with keypads, but I think I will be replacing all the Maestro dimmers with the new Sunnata dimmers as they do look much nicer.
Makes sense that I would convert 90% of my switches to Caseta only for this to come out a year later
Yep Raj … I’m in the same situation. Ugh
I just spent under a grand for all new Caserta. 😳
@@johndoe6032 this decora form factor for lighting switches has been around for a _very_ long time - well before smart switches were a thing - so I think you're safe with this look.
Raji, just because they made a new version doesn’t mean you have to convert to it.
@@anthonywall1228 I understand that. I’m just saying I would’ve like to have had this version to begin with, but such is life.
Thanks for the video. Does this work with HomeKit or is a hub still required?
I'm installing a replacement 3-way and for the outside front door and the entry on the inside of the front door I do not need a dimmer switch and I'm not going to pay $70 to put a dimmer switch either outside the front door or inside the front door it's either off or on. Your presentation was very professional and to the point.
With all of these awesome improvements, I think that the only thing that I’m left wishing for is to have Lutron-or any of the other major smart-home brands-offer a smart dimmer switch with a built-in motion sensor?
Basically, if some brand were to make something similar to the Lutron Maestro Occupancy/Vacancy Dimmer Switch-but with built-in ZigBee or Z-Wave support-I think that could be just about perfect.
Lutron has an add-on motion sensor for there caseta line.
You can pair a Lutron Maestro Occupancy/Vacancy Dimmer Switch with a Lutron Caseta switch in a 2 way configuration to get part of this functionality (not particularly cost effective agreed). The Occupancy sensor status can be seen from the Lutron App and the state can be changed but you don't have app control of the sensor parameters or the dimming level and you can't within the Lutron ecosystem trigger events from it (from other integrations you may be able to).
Tp- link Kasa makes a single pole motion dimmer switch
@@paulnsharon5641 Ah-thanks for the tip! As it would happen, I don’t believe that there’s full Home Assistant support for those, but other than that, those look pretty promising.
Not sure if it helps, but I think Leviton makes a Wi-Fi Decora dimmer with motion sensor
I’m glad I waited a beat to buy the Caseta switches! These seem so much better!
I love your outros!
Reed. So just wanted to let you know. You can set a scene via lutron app and you can set the lighting % to let say 1% ( so I have as ‘Good morning’ ) when you press the arrow up on your caseta it will activate the scene. And if you press regular ON it will go to the maximum brightness. I hope this helps.
This and the new smart Claro switches are awesome. I wish Lutron made the original Caseta switches exactly like these or at least like the Maestros. Hopefully the prices will go down so that I'm able to replace my current Casetas with these.
I'm in the same boat - bought almost all of my Lutron dimmer switches last year for my new house, although I haven't installed them all yet. Most of my switches are on/off but if I need any more dimmers, I will definitely use these instead. I'm willing to pay for Lutron. The TP-Link Kasa dimmer switches I have in my condo don't click either - can't say it ever bothered me. Hopefully it won't bother the next owner. 🙂
This looks like a nice update! And I'm with you on the "where was this a year or two ago" comment since I have like 20 of the original switches installed. I still have a few rooms I have not made "smart" yet, so I may try a couple of these switches and swap them with some of my more frequently used switches. At $70 each, I won't be buying them in bulk, that's for sure! As for the three way compatibility and not needing a Pico, I actually liked the Pico solution because it was much cheaper than buying two switches.
Also you can also use the Pico as a three way switch with these new ones too. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that in the video.
But I might be doing the same thing as you.
Not needing a Pico (still have that option but Pico remotes use Maestro aesthetics, not Diva) drastically reduces the device count. Also, the companion dimmer/switch is roughly the same $20 that a Pico remote is so cost wise, it’s a wash, worst case.
Hey!! Which energy monitoring smart plugs would you recomend me if I want to have my receiver turn on the speakers which have separate power
By the way Grate Vid!!
Do you know of a “smart” MLV dimmer ? Looking for one for my under-cabinet lights in new kitchen. Thanks. Love your content
Awesome improvements. Sucks they are ignoring coming out with a fan & light combo smart switch.
gonna have to wait for those to go on sale.
I'm using the Meross switches. I've been really impressed with their products 👍
At this point I’m more inclined to go with Inovelli Blue Series Zigbee switches. Seems to have all of these features for the most part with the added benefit of zigbee and having a smart bulb mode.
I'm planning to try that out soon when it's available!
@@SmartHomeSolver please do a review and compare. The Inovelli has a smart bulb mode to work with smart bulbs. Can also bind to zigbee smart bulbs elimination that Huu
@@SmartHomeSolver looking forward to your thoughts on it!
Preordered an Inovelli white dimming switch. It’s Matter over Thread.
Already have tons of lutron switches and now this. oh man !
I wish they had a pico remote that matched this button style. I have a remote on the wall right next to my kitchen light switch since the other switch is so far away, and it's going to look dumb having the two switches be mismatched.
The current caseta switch is hard to hit as you walk out of the room, so it would be nice to upgrade to the Diva.
I presume they will be coming out with those soon. I'm in the same boat.
Hi Reed I love your content. I'm trying to beef my smart home system up. I have a Vivint system with 8 Alexas, a few KasaSmart switches and outlets. In the process of implementing some improvements.
Very nice video. I am going to try one of these in my rental and see how it holds up. In the past renters would give a good hard fist to the paddle dimmers I had. Eventually they would crack or stop working. Very frustrating. But why not update if they can withstand the punishment.
What do you think about the tapo smart dimmer from TP-LINK? It would be nice to have a review from you. Trying to stay away from spending too much on switches, I currently have zwave GE but need to add a lot more switches.
I love the design and hope more smart switch designers go this route, but $70 is ludicrous.
LOL, $70 is waaaay less than anything from Lutron's RadioRa 3 line, or their QSX line. It is also less than anything from Vantage or Control4 or Crestron by at least half. Sure there are some off-brand products that are cheaper, but they don't work as well. These things are a bargain at $70.
@@JasonBrown527 I have to disagree, there are a lot of very good smart switches out there if all you are grading it by is functionality of controlling lights. When comparing good switches to good switches what benefit is Lutron offering? Brand name and cosmetics? That's not worth $70 to me.
@@LifeWithMatthew Those cheap $20-30 dimmers typically use wi-fi to communicate. Not a big deal when you only have a few. But Caseta, which is Lutron's smallest system, supports up to 75 devices. Wi-Fi based switches would significantly slow down most networks if you had even 20 or 30 devices. ClearConnect operates at 434 MHz which does not interfere with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth or Zigbee, which are all sharing the same RF space. And Lutron has been making dimmers longer than anyone. They actually patented it in 1959. They have tried and tested more light bulbs for compatibility than any other manufacturer. Chances are that if you buy a dimmable bulb that lists any known compatibility the list of verified dimmers will be 70% Lutron devices. So if you want to buy something and know that it will actually work, but a Lutron. If you want to save a few bucks and roll the dice, have at it. Either way, $70 for this dimmer is NOT "ludicrous".
@@JasonBrown527 happen to know what an RA3 Sunnata dimmer goes for? I’m starting to think Lutron is intentionally withholding the Sunnata devices from the DIY market but then again, it’s available as a “dumb” switch/dimmer for $40. Considering the $10 price difference between Sunatta and Diva dumb devices, and the $10 hike for Diva aesthetics in a Caseta device, I don’t understand why we couldn’t have Sunatta devices on the Caseta platform.
@@JasonBrown527 Hey, I'm glad you found a brand that you love and trust, but you're not going to convince me that my own smart home set up, with quite a few devices, that is stable and very responsive is in fact broken and has huge delays. The only benefit to the Lutron I see over an equivalent device, of which there are quite a few, is the brand name and slightly superior cosmetic design. And since I can easily have equivalent devices for 1/3 the cost ludicrous is the only adjective I feel adequately describes that price point. But you do you, man.
The improvements are great. In my next house I had planned to use Inovelli, but this is now a consideration. But $70? I don't see myself dropping $70 per switch. That's a tough pill to swallow. I'll get my rear end off the couch to flip lights on and off. It'll keep me young and I'll pocket the hundreds or a thousand dollars. That or roll with Kasa.
I'm at my 75 device limit, so having 3-way switching is fantastic. I might restore one or two of my 3-way circuits back to 'normal' by removing the Pico remotes so I can free up some of my device count for circuits that are not on Lutron yet.
Finally, Lutron listened! Does it have the various dimming timing of the maestro?
What I was waiting for was an updated dimmer switch that was the same as their pico format. I never understood why the pico was more advanced and easier to use than the main switch.
This new format does make sense for people who want limited Caseta control but a consistent look throughout their home.
The Caseta ELV+ dimmer (PD-5NE) has the same button layout as the Pico and can handle a 250W LED load
@@VivanShah and have you seen the price is double! ? Should be included.
Incredible I like it so much 👍🏻
I sure wish I would’ve seen your video when it first came out. Over the last couple weeks I’ve replaced most of the switches in my home with the old style Casita dimmer. These are a little bit more money, but definitely would’ve been what I chose. Also, do you know if Lutron still makes an on/off switch that doesn’t need neutral? I have a neon sign that doesn’t work with their no neutral dimmer. Thanks.
I like my Feit Electric 3 way smart dimmers (neutral required). 2 pack at my Costco was $30. Added to Google Home with ease.
time of day dimming is still the thing I need. so I can set the bathroom light to 10% from 11pm-5am
You can use Home Assistant to control a Lutron Pico remote to do whatever you want. I have a pico that turns on and off my Govee exterior lights, another pico for turning on and off lamps and I use HA to connect them to Lutron scenes as well. I also have a Pico that turns on and off my fireplace with bond. The Picos are really handy if you use HA.
Watching this video after buying a bunch of now "old" Lutron switches is very frustrating lol. These look amazing
I feel your pain!
How does the dim speed compare to the older models? I really like my current Caseta dimmers because they dim to zero slowly. These appear to transition on and off much quicker. I prefer slower dimming which is more pleasant.
Any updates on how Lutron will implement Matter? Will will still have to use a bridge?
Sick UI 😎
I might have to try these, though I'm not a big fan of the price. I currently have no smart switches and have been doing everything w/ smart bulbs. Guess time will tell.
I really expected any design updates for Caseta to use the Sunnata design. At $70 per device, I'm disappointed they do not as it solves the design conflict of having remote software controls AND a physical slider for the light level. I am glad they are offering an alternative to the Maestro design however and would still consider going the Diva route if I'm not able to justify going all-in on RA3.
I agree fully. I have Sunnata and Caseta switches and really wish I could make them all smart Sunnatas. The form factor is incredible.
Yes! Give me smart Sunnatas!
@@DrawTheLine35 they exist, but only in the RA3 and HomeWorks product lines.
@@GoFastGator Good to know!
@@GoFastGator quick question - in a 3-way switch config, can you have a Caseta Wireless Diva Dimmer on one wall and a dumb Sunnata dimmer on another wall and still control that light remotely via Caseta? I'm assuming yes?
DO you know of a good wifi 4 Way switch? I went the cheaper route a few years back with Kasa and for my needs it is great but it is annoying having most lights in my house on wifi switches except the hall lights because they are 4 way.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my question.
Sounds like a great switch. You had me until the price. Yowza. I finished upgrading everything to the Leviton smart switches, and the whole time I was thinking a slider would be great. Now Lurton comes out with one.
Liked the video but would have left without clicking the like button...........the dad joke about the name of the switch being Diva got me to come back. Very funny and cute bit. :-)
Love the videos! Relatively new here. A home assistant beginners guide, adding ZigBee devices, etc would be super helpful. Point me to one of your videos if already created please. Saw the NFC video now I'm hooked on figuring it out
I LOVE the leaving the room feature. If this was $50, I'd consider it. $70 is too much. My traditional dimmer switch with a Shelly 1 behind it is just fine.
I love that feature too! But yeah the price is definitely steep.
No way it stays at this level as that is crazy price vs the many, many competing options. Imagine it will be $50 or less very soon.
Chris - is there a wiring diagram you could share? Had an electrician try to wire traditional dimmer with sonoff mini2 and couldn't get it to work.
@@damonwynne2098 The Hookup has done a couple of good videos on this. It doesn’t control the dimming functions though. Just the power.
www.thesmarthomehookup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Shelly1.jpg
www.thesmarthomehookup.com/beginners-guide-to-shelly-relays-choose-the-right-relay-for-the-job/
@@curtisbme I doubt anything is changing in the near future. Caseta has always sold on reliability and connectivity. The VAST majority of competitive devices are WiFi and that just isn’t a good solution for dozens of low-bandwidth devices. We are just beginning to see Thread switches and dimmers trickle out and they do not offer much in capability or companion devices compared to Lutron.
My only complaint with the old ones has been the price and these are about $20 more. My current ones are fine. I only have 4 but plan to expand them to the rest of the house soon. I think I'll stick with the cheaper ones.
I’m building a new house and love these but price is insane. Any recommendations on more cost effective (yet still awesome) alternatives? Ty!
So, you live in Arizona, right? Have you had any power issues, power outages/brownouts, etc? Im planning on moving to the Chandler area in a couple of years, so curious how these switches would be affected. Also, these Lutrons, do they require a web service like Hue bulbs?
Looks great but the price. Do you think you will do a comparison of the smart light switch ?
I like the looks of this switch allot better then the older one. I do wish they would release a Sunnata Touch Dimmer in the Caseta line.
I've been slowing upgrading my switches... but i don't think i'm going to change not worth the added expense... And I love on my 3ways that the pico remotes can do so much more with the smarthome and still be something my family can understand
I recently started fallowing you, my biggest question is what brand or model light bulbs you use with Lutron caseta.
Hi. Do you know if these new switches fixed power leakage. My son has some of the older model and some of his outdoor led lights has a glow with the old switch
Hmmm.. I wonder if this would tie into my existing old school triple switch hallways.. I have all the same features but no smart.
If you have the LED’s with Zero to 10 Vdc Dimming, there is a “Blink’n’Dim” Switch that wires in at the Light Fixture. No 10 Vdc wire in the walls. You will have three light levels, by turning the wall switch on and off. Bit pricey at around $70, though.
Would a switch like this be able to be set to only go to a certain brightness depending on the time of day? And also to send a notification at that certain time of day as well? For example, if my kid turns his light on in the middle of the night, it would be limited to 25% and then send me a notification that its on. Something along those lines.
Can you do an updated Hub comparison 2022? I'm looking to get into it but not sure which hub to get. Thanks!
great video thanks
Game changer! I have been dying for a smart switch with a physical dimmer... Now if it was only ZigBee or Z-Wave.
Inovelli Blue 2-1
Any word on a pico remote in the Diva style to pair with these? Due to the layout of my house and where the current switches are, pico remotes are pretty much required.
Also, any word on one for ceiling fan control?
So do you set up the dimming level for scenes using the slider, or is that just for the local on level? In other words, if someone moves the slider will it mess up scenes?
Hello. I was wondering if you could possibly help me with a question. My dad is blind and uses IOS accessibility to navigat his phone. I was wondering if you knew or could test how well it works with Home assistant. I want to help him set up a smart home. But I want to know how well different hub environments will work for him before I suggest one for him to use.
@smarthomesolver Can this be used with an existing dimmer switch? OR will it only work with and existing toggle switch? Thanks
Does the new version fix the automation issue?
Example setting the light to turn on to a certain brightness during specified times without that annoying delay?
Or does it still ramp to 100% then goes to the automation light level?
Do they allow you to have a logarithmic dimming curve for LED lights? Can you change the ramp rates? These are both HUGE issues for me. With my LED lights, they reach 90% apparent brightness at probably 25% in the dimming range. Only solution is to set a lower maximum which seems a bad solution. They also ramp down too slow because of this so you have to stare at the lights for a second to know if you actually hit the off button since the layout and squishiness are awful.
This may be a stupid question but is your dimmer currently rated for LED's or is it one made for Incandescents? I only ask because the issue you're describing I've seen in the past be a result of LED's not on a universal-style dimmer so it doesn't ramp appropriately. If yours is already universal I hope you find one that fixes your issue!
I have a question for a what would be a good smart wall switch. Project for my kitchen, track lighting with RGB smart bulbs (I can't find any track heads with RGB function) so I found the bulbs. Looking at a few 3 & 4 light track light units. Anyway, I want to be able to turn on/off (maybe dim as well) from the wall switch, but still be able to turn on/off and color change from a smart phone app, Google Home/Alexa. A standard wall switch will kill power to the track lights and I won't be able to turn the lights on without turning on the wall switch... Advice?
Nothing has been purchased yet.
For the track lights, I found there on Amazon: Avatar Controls 4 Pack Smart Bulb GU10, Alexa LED Light Bulbs Music Sync RGBCW Color Changing Dimmable WiFi Spot Lights Works with Google Home, Quick Connection
So do I need only one switch to control a threeway set up or do I need three of these one for each switch in a three way set up
So just a quick question though if you wanted to put a three way switch in where there isn’t already a wired three switch you would still have to use a pico though correct? And they have not updated that correct?
Would you recommend Lutron switches with clear connect over a Z wave switch that might be cheaper and probably has a longer range since Z wave devices can work like a mesh network?
Hey Reed, did they tell you I’d they will be releasing an ELV+ version of this switch? I had to upgrade mine to ELV because of the LED pot lights buzzing.
Hello, What wallplate are you using to fit both lutron and leviton switches. I cannot for the life of me get the wallplate to line up when i mixed those two switches. thank you.
Would these switches work with a standard Zigbee dongle for use in Home Assistant?
Are you aware if they can be used in 4 way applications? Also since there is no neutral wire do they turn on whenever the power goes out and back on like my smart bulbs?
$70 per switch is nuts…I would love to integrate them, but I’m not spending over $500 to layout my house with them.
Have the regular Lutron dimmers changed or just the smart ones?
Will this handle led smart bulbs (multiple) in a chandelier and not make them all flicker?
My home is older and I don’t believe it has a neutral.
And if I wanted to just have one smart light switch platform in my whole house would you recommend this Lutron system or some other system completely ?
Can you test something for me? If the physical dimmer is at 50% and then you change it to 25% on the app and then turn it off.
Does it turn on the light again at 50% or 25% if you ask it to turn on the light using a voice assistant?
How does the non smart 3 way switch work. If you leave it off will the smart switch still work?
Would you know if the Lutron Caseta Diva dimmer switch is able to directly connect to the Lutron Caseta lamp plugs? I have a room that I want to install the switch and have the switch turn on 4 lamp plugs. If not could I program the Lutron Hub to turn on the lamps and would it be instant or a delay as I currently have with Zwave which is why I am looking to upgrade.
For me it’s mostly about the look. I have ELVs in most of my locations, because that’s how PICO remotes look. Having to another casetta look unfortunately would not work for me. I really wish lutron would extend devices to 100 fro
75, as I have two hubs as a work around right now.
The price is high, but hopefully it will go down. I would love to have some of these for my office and control the lighting while working. Do you know if these are an easy swap if you already have 3 way Lutron switches?
My electrician installed the old Caseta switches with some kind of remote to extend my basement lighting to three total switches instead of just one, and my biggest complaint is how crappy it is to find the on/off buttons. This new style looks like a perfect replacement... but $70!?? Lutron must be out of their minds. I'll wait until the price comes down.
You should try out the plejd pill and light switch. It ticks all the boxes of the perfect smart home light system. The only thing is that they ain't got support for rgb lights but other than that it's pure perfection 💯. Everyone else should learn from them.
I'm assuming these like other Lutron devices don't work at 240v 50Hz? What HomeKit options are there in the UK?
Great video! I've had problems with the OG Caseta dimmers causing most LED bulbs to flicker or not turn on unless at over 50% brightness. This includes bulbs Lutron says are compatible with the dimmer and work with non-smart Lutron dimmers. I see the Diva dimmer has "LED+". Will that improve LED bulb compatibility?
Just installed the diva today with a halo 4 inch LED recessed lighting fixture. Both are brand new and the LED bulbs still flicker unless I don’t dim them too much. Just fyi.
Can you still program a pico with this new dimmer? They should redesign the pico remote now too
I am changing from all the Kasa and zooz ones to Lutron, the fact that it is easily compatible with smart things and home kit
Id love for them to take the Suntana model and turn into the Caseta System! The touch lightbar is cool!
Maestro pairs with a wired companion switch, a standard snap switch or a pico switch. but of course, if it is more important to you to play with the switches from your smartphone, Maestro doesn't do as much with the smartbridge system.
I had the Maestro for years I just wish they would go ahead and make the Maestro light switches wireless.
That's what I want too.
Do you need 2 of these switches for a 3 way setup?