The lesson I take from Anthony is this: if you know you have talent-and that comes from a mix of self-belief and surrounding yourself with honest, supportive friends and family-don’t chase what’s popular just to find success. The reason is simple: if you succeed at something that isn’t true to you, you could end up living a life you didn’t really choose. Yes, knowing you’re talented but not being fully appreciated for years (or even decades) must be brutal. But the flip side-having the world eventually come around to you, creating your own space, and staying true to yourself in the process-is incredibly inspiring. I remind myself of this when I see people younger than me or less skilled getting ahead. It brings me back to one of my favorite Steve Martin quotes: “Be so good, they can’t ignore you.”
Even though Jeselnik thinks all comments (good and bad) are the same, his Special actually had the right to be called Special. I attempted to workout while watching it, and I had to stop my workout because I knew for 50 minutes, I was NOT going to be able to do anything other than laugh. Brutal and brilliant.
"I'd rather see an interesting failure." - AJ My sentiments exactly. Annie Hall has been a favorite movie of mine in terms of screenwriting and directing - which is why I will never see that doc. TYSM for having Anthony on. Been a fan since 2011! I introduced myself to him in LA walking by him at the bar before his set. I told him, "...and YOU are the reason we are here!" It was a random night at Hollywood Improv. He didn't reply and I didn't expect him to. Great episode!
Guts? He comes out swinging at all the big names right as he releases a special. He doesn’t have guts, he’s just an ass looking to ride the coattails of successful comedians.
@@johng.4711it’s funny because Maron had Obama on years ago for an episode. And that’s one of the things Jeselnik criticized Rogan for was having a politician on his podcast and not in a comedic way. This reveals that Jeselnik is a hypocrite.
Two of my favorite comedians talking about their lives and comedy is more entertaining than most movies or standup specials. I love how unapologetic Anthony is, it's so rare in the comedy world today.
@@darkblade3897yes. Thank you. He pontificates on a podcast about how comedians are just really podcasters who pontificate about the industry and the “process” … if this is a bit he is doing then it’s amazing. If he’s dead serious he’s a jackass
Love both of these guys, interesting and funny but had to laugh when Papa says at the beginning of the interview that he is sick of hearing comedians talk about working on their next hour and Anthony agrees and then at the very end of the interview says that he is ready to work on his next hour 😂 great interview. Saw Anthony perform in Lexington KY a few years back and a drunk heckler kept screaming that the bit he was trying to set up about suicide was not funny, he calmly restarted from the beginning of the bit about 3 or 4 times until she finally left(us alone) and let him finish. He has always been my hero since then because he didn’t let one person dictate what everybody else got to hear, and yes it was hilarious, bravo Anthony!
He came to Portugal for the first time and it was a stellar act. He is so suave, I love his slow speed, the time he takes between jokes, I like how it breathes organically. You can tell that he's a seasoned stand-up comedian.
Hats off to Anthony, he stands pretty much alone against this group of cowards that are just watching what their boss (Joe Rogan) thinks to adjust their opinion.
@@tobydammit6599he’s said that he liked Rogan and enjoyed conversations with him but he went down a path he didn’t respect he’s not a hypocrite he’s just not a 5 year old and is capable of changing his mind
The thing with the Sarno book is when people think it means it’s all in your head. That’s not the point. It’s that your mind can create real physical symptoms. Anyone who suffers from anxiety knows that’s true.
It is a great special. I was lucky enough to see him up close when he was touring with the material that's in it. If you haven't seen comedy live, and you can afford it, GO TO SHOWS!
SOOO many great jokes in the new special. I lame so I paused before the big switcheroo M Night twist on every joke. Tried to think of what the angle would be. I never once saw it coming. He's the best.
@@lawrencetorrance7051 I mean I was being a bit hyperbolic. I think at that point I was kind of hypnotized by him. But I agree that was probably the weakest,
@@howdareyou41 I cringed at that one because to me it was proof that he is scraping for material that holds up against his other stuff. I can see why he wonders if he has another hour in him. We will see.
I wouldn't even admit that I ever thought I COULD do what a really clever guy who goes out on the road and crowd tests the hardest style of setup/punch minimalist gems of incontestably rich _bon mots,_ does That's me, though?¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"my agent said, anthony, you have been doing comedy for 20 years, you have to take a 20 year comedy tour, pick your favorite places to do some shows" "I said fuck that, im going to Spokane WA."
@@uniqueflowsnake we never were...it was only a couple of wankers in the media,most of us thought it was hilarious, i quess the family of the guy that died were not happy
@TomPapaComedy This is the perfect conversation between two people I respect the most in the industry. Thanks for sharing this with us all. Also, Tom, come to Australia! I’d sell your show out in hours.
Anthony forgot the most important part of "The Coffee Table", when the dad drops the baby it gets beheaded, so while the dead baby is in the other room while everyone is just enjoying dinner, it's head rolled under a chair and is just barely out of sight.
What a lovely convo. AJ is probably the edgiest comedian out there, and he’s so right about the cringey performative “I’m being cancelled” crap from millionaire superstar comedians.
When Jeselnik told Tom to tell his daughter good job on the Bugles, it's too bad that Tom didn't get the joke. He said in all seriousness, "My daughter had nothing to do with these." I wish Anthony would've pushed it further. "Really? I find that hard to believe." When a comedian doesn't pick up on a joke, I think it's best to keep doubling down until they remember we're comedians.
Fantastic podcast. Not just as Anthony recommended Beau Is Afraid. A tough film to recommend but my goodness it's a masterpiece of a cinematic panic attack.
That is happening in EVERY company right now. I just worked a MONTH for backoffice at gaming, with a ONE year contract, and they then said "the peak is gone, we dont need you anymore!". I read the contract and it said (minimum wage!) " 3 MONTHS TRIAL" they can basically throw you out during 3 FCKN MONTHS! if they dont like your face one day. Working laws should be reviewed.
I mean……. If the contract said that….. And they were honest about it… And they gave you the contract to read before you signed it…. What’s the issue? Whyd you sign it? Why did you work there if you didn’t like that?
My favorite thing about comedy is that one of the least offensive comics in the business can genuinely appreciate one of the most tightrope walking comics I've ever heard.
What a wild coincidence. First time watching this show/pod….and 1 week ago I got my 1st bag of Bugles in 20+ years. My grandparents always had a bag in the kitchen.
Tom is right about Anthony doing the 4th wall thing very effectively. Other comics do it all the time but it ruins the joke a little more often than not. Anthony just has such good delivery, like Jimmy Carr, where you instantly get sucked back in and can even forget about him even saying the preface. Like he said, puts the audience in the trance. Also, Anthony is this generation's Marc Maron with how much of a curmudgeon he is 😂
Great talk. I subscribed to both of you gentlemen. I’m going to re-subscribe to netflix to watch the special then cancel it again next month. Ps did Tom Papa actually bake that bread..? 😊
I like that Jeselneek did a show in Milwaukee, its in my home state, super glad he didn't get shot. Come to Green Bay some time I'll buy a ticket. Nate dude is coming back a 2nd time, maybe that's a good sign of comedians coming to the crazy north.
He and I both. I've been sick of hearing this shit for a while. It's your JOB as a comedian to find the way around it. All the props in the world to Anthony calling it out. And for fuck's sake, if anyone is NOT suffering and is NOT silenced, it's Dave Chapelle
@xe666 comedy as a business is transactional. No comic has a fundamental right to the audience's reactions. If you get cancelled it's because you delivered an unacceptable product. Are we trying to force the audience to accept a product they don't want, here, or what?
I love you both. Been following you and your comedy for quite a long time. Once I saw that stuff on the rally, it was offensive and I immediately thought of Mr offensive himself haha needed to hear his take. I know he was on tour, a special came out, no more tour dates. I figured it must be good. Love you guys!
Well said, Tom. "You don't have to solve it, you just have to recognize it." Definitely read Sarno. Next, get Schubinger's Unlearn Your Pain. 15 years of chronic pain and actually feeling my feelings was the #1 key to breaking the bullshit loose. Hoping you two and anyone reading this in pain finds what helps them.
The lesson I take from Anthony is this: if you know you have talent-and that comes from a mix of self-belief and surrounding yourself with honest, supportive friends and family-don’t chase what’s popular just to find success. The reason is simple: if you succeed at something that isn’t true to you, you could end up living a life you didn’t really choose.
Yes, knowing you’re talented but not being fully appreciated for years (or even decades) must be brutal. But the flip side-having the world eventually come around to you, creating your own space, and staying true to yourself in the process-is incredibly inspiring.
I remind myself of this when I see people younger than me or less skilled getting ahead. It brings me back to one of my favorite Steve Martin quotes: “Be so good, they can’t ignore you.”
Even though Jeselnik thinks all comments (good and bad) are the same, his Special actually had the right to be called Special. I attempted to workout while watching it, and I had to stop my workout because I knew for 50 minutes, I was NOT going to be able to do anything other than laugh. Brutal and brilliant.
You should see a neurologist
@ I probably should. 😅
Who the fuck works out to standup? You must be mentally ill
"I'd rather see an interesting failure." - AJ My sentiments exactly. Annie Hall has been a favorite movie of mine in terms of screenwriting and directing - which is why I will never see that doc. TYSM for having Anthony on. Been a fan since 2011! I introduced myself to him in LA walking by him at the bar before his set. I told him, "...and YOU are the reason we are here!" It was a random night at Hollywood Improv. He didn't reply and I didn't expect him to. Great episode!
Pretty much shows AJ’s character right there!!!! Because that’s EXACTLY who he is.
@@jimmybonez8928 TO be fair, we were walking in and AJ was at the bar so I walked past him. I am a huge fan.
@@ChristineKikiMac fair enough
I love what Jeselnik says about David Chappelle, he’s got guts!
Guts? Why should he be afraid of Chappelle?
Guts? He comes out swinging at all the big names right as he releases a special. He doesn’t have guts, he’s just an ass looking to ride the coattails of successful comedians.
@@1dariansdad chappelle is the golden cow and is probably the most influential living comic
@@jessew7565 Are you actually trying to teach me who Chappelle is? WTF is wrong with you?
Chappelle has been so fucking cringe for the last decade. It's about damn time someone called him out!
‘My least favourite sound is children playing’ haha that gave me my biggest laugh of the day, and it’s been a funny happy day
I used to describe my dad as someone for whom "the sound of children's laughter just really got to him. He seemed to really hate that." Funny guy.
Heading right over to Netflix, what a gem Jeselnik is. If there are a few cornerstones of comedy in 2024, he is one.
He will have no career in a year or two😂
The fact that he did this podcast and one other lets me know who he really respects and admires.
Tom Papa is an awesome dude, great comic. Also Dan Lebatard, not a comic, but funny and genuinely good dude.
@@alphaenemyplus8376 and Maron
He's been on 2 Bears and YMH as well.
@@johng.4711it’s funny because Maron had Obama on years ago for an episode. And that’s one of the things Jeselnik criticized Rogan for was having a politician on his podcast and not in a comedic way. This reveals that Jeselnik is a hypocrite.
@@deangulberry1876careful there. You could pull something stretching like that
Had to pause this and go watch the special, shits hilarious ofc! The amount of sudden left turns broke a rib i think
Two of my favorite comedians talking about their lives and comedy is more entertaining than most movies or standup specials.
I love how unapologetic Anthony is, it's so rare in the comedy world today.
Anthony is the voice we need in comedy.
You may like Michelle Wolf as well.
Anthony is a comedian? I haven't heard a single joke this podcast
@@darkblade3897yes. Thank you. He pontificates on a podcast about how comedians are just really podcasters who pontificate about the industry and the “process” … if this is a bit he is doing then it’s amazing. If he’s dead serious he’s a jackass
He’s pompous as hell. But he’s earned the right to be. May be the funniest comic out there, possibly better than Burr and Chapelle.
Dude thinks he’s Josh Homme
Love both of these guys, interesting and funny but had to laugh when Papa says at the beginning of the interview that he is sick of hearing comedians talk about working on their next hour and Anthony agrees and then at the very end of the interview says that he is ready to work on his next hour 😂 great interview. Saw Anthony perform in Lexington KY a few years back and a drunk heckler kept screaming that the bit he was trying to set up about suicide was not funny, he calmly restarted from the beginning of the bit about 3 or 4 times until she finally left(us alone) and let him finish. He has always been my hero since then because he didn’t let one person dictate what everybody else got to hear, and yes it was hilarious, bravo Anthony!
He came to Portugal for the first time and it was a stellar act. He is so suave, I love his slow speed, the time he takes between jokes, I like how it breathes organically. You can tell that he's a seasoned stand-up comedian.
I went to that camp, Anthony was my counselor
This was absolutely wonderful, Tom - love Jeselnik, and his performing and writing only get better. Thanks for having him on!
I watched the special yesterday with my Mom and had to explain what "saving pics for later means" 💀 😅
Hats off to Anthony, he stands pretty much alone against this group of cowards that are just watching what their boss (Joe Rogan) thinks to adjust their opinion.
❤️ he's my boyfriend. Thanks.
He says that yet did Rogans podcast twice for exposure. Hes a hypocrite.
@@tobydammit6599No, he’s just not afraid to speak the truth on Rogan’s unfunny cesspool of a podcast.
@@tobydammit6599he’s said that he liked Rogan and enjoyed conversations with him but he went down a path he didn’t respect he’s not a hypocrite he’s just not a 5 year old and is capable of changing his mind
The thing with the Sarno book is when people think it means it’s all in your head. That’s not the point. It’s that your mind can create real physical symptoms. Anyone who suffers from anxiety knows that’s true.
And exercise is -good- great for your mind. But, alas, I can't seem to cure my chronic equanimity?
Mind Body connection basically saved my life. Or at least years of my life.
i love how honest this convo is
Hands down one of the best comedy specials I've seen.
My daughter, what is she studying?... Photoshop... THIS WAS THE MOMENT, love this.
Wow Tom, this podcast is great. You have all of these legends because you sir are one, too.
These two are very good at what they do. Incredible interview guys, top notch from beginning to end. Fantastic. The best thing I've seen all year.
This is a great session. Much better than what the other comics are putting out. Tom lets Anthony talk. 👍🏽👍🏽🍿
20:45 Shark Party 🎉 That is pure Jeselnik. A real third thought joke.
Jeselnik’s new special was perfect! His stand up is as strong as ever.
This is such an open conversation I love it
So glad he’s back!
Great special, great interview. Thank you, Tom.
That was a very chill and genuine conversation. It's nice in a world of podcasts where people pretend to know each other and pretend to be interested.
Anthony had the best special this year.
It is a great special. I was lucky enough to see him up close when he was touring with the material that's in it. If you haven't seen comedy live, and you can afford it, GO TO SHOWS!
SOOO many great jokes in the new special. I lame so I paused before the big switcheroo M Night twist on every joke. Tried to think of what the angle would be. I never once saw it coming. He's the best.
You didn't see the elevator repair thing coming? I thought that one was pretty bad.
@@lawrencetorrance7051 I mean I was being a bit hyperbolic. I think at that point I was kind of hypnotized by him. But I agree that was probably the weakest,
@@howdareyou41 I cringed at that one because to me it was proof that he is scraping for material that holds up against his other stuff. I can see why he wonders if he has another hour in him. We will see.
Loved the new special. Rewatched Fire in the Maternity... straight afterwards. It's stronger material than the new still
I wouldn't even admit that I ever thought I COULD do what a really clever guy who goes out on the road and crowd tests the hardest style of setup/punch minimalist gems of incontestably rich _bon mots,_ does
That's me, though?¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fun ep! He has a very unique style and voice and point of view. Crazy to think I've been watching him since I was a teen haha
Were you in Unfrosted? No. Congratulations.
The most perfect slam dunk in one word.
Anthony has great movie recs
Very good talk
Anthony is always so transparent
I love it!
Yes a transparent narcissistic clown
I like Anthony’s new Civil War look
Like a young Sam Elliott
@@schweber10____ I like your style, Dude!!
@@schweber10 Who blinks less, Sam Elliott or Anthony Jeselnik?
Well he’s trying to start one
He's Mark Maroning it. Meaning, he is getting old.
"my agent said, anthony, you have been doing comedy for 20 years, you have to take a 20 year comedy tour, pick your favorite places to do some shows"
"I said fuck that, im going to Spokane WA."
I just watched Anthony’s Netflix special,….I am looking forward to watch it again!, flawless
saw Anthony in new zealand,great show..Tom you need to come down under
so you guys aren't mad at him anymore for the shark party thing? xD
@@uniqueflowsnake we never were...it was only a couple of wankers in the media,most of us thought it was hilarious, i quess the family of the guy that died were not happy
Evidently not
Good Day Mate !
Anthony is one of the few comedians where i rewatch his specials.. this guy is so dark and funny
11:46 the cut to Anthony's face listening to Tom trying to explain himself is incredible.
Hahaha
Lol looks like he saw a ghost
His new special rocks🤟
Watched his show in Perth, best show I’ve ever seen
Tom, I first saw you in Toronto in 2009. You opened for Seinfeld(at Massey Hall). I thought you were so much funnier than him. Amazing.
What a nice conversation.
@TomPapaComedy This is the perfect conversation between two people I respect the most in the industry. Thanks for sharing this with us all. Also, Tom, come to Australia! I’d sell your show out in hours.
Jeselnik should not change a thing. WE NEED HIM!!!
Anthony is the man. Thanks for doing the podcast!
Great interview. Jeselnik is a legend.
We love the old intro song it was just marvelous love you keep watching
❤❤❤the composer
So happy to know that the Spanish movie was not only favourited by Stephen King and Anthony Jeselnik.
Very interesting convo!
Jeselnik is a brilliant writer and his delivery is exceptional as well
Amazing podcast 🥰
Anthony forgot the most important part of "The Coffee Table", when the dad drops the baby it gets beheaded, so while the dead baby is in the other room while everyone is just enjoying dinner, it's head rolled under a chair and is just barely out of sight.
"...when the dad drops the baby it gets beheaded..."
Now there's something I don't hear every day.
Jeselnik channeling Colin Robinson in this, lol... love him. He does no wrong. ❤️
Anthony is a real one
Wonderful!
Wow, great guest!
Bravo for him!
Beans on toast is a British staple 25:29
We eat it all the time in Canada too. Thanks UK 😘
That’s like saying “guys fyi. The sky’s blue”. Everyone knows bud. 😂
What a lovely convo. AJ is probably the edgiest comedian out there, and he’s so right about the cringey performative “I’m being cancelled” crap from millionaire superstar comedians.
That was great. Thanks very much.
Love Anthony thanks , i watched the new special it does not disappoint! ❤
Special was great.
When Jeselnik told Tom to tell his daughter good job on the Bugles, it's too bad that Tom didn't get the joke. He said in all seriousness, "My daughter had nothing to do with these." I wish Anthony would've pushed it further. "Really? I find that hard to believe." When a comedian doesn't pick up on a joke, I think it's best to keep doubling down until they remember we're comedians.
Fantastic podcast. Not just as Anthony recommended Beau Is Afraid. A tough film to recommend but my goodness it's a masterpiece of a cinematic panic attack.
That is happening in EVERY company right now. I just worked a MONTH for backoffice at gaming, with a ONE year contract, and they then said "the peak is gone, we dont need you anymore!". I read the contract and it said (minimum wage!) " 3 MONTHS TRIAL" they can basically throw you out during 3 FCKN MONTHS! if they dont like your face one day. Working laws should be reviewed.
I mean……. If the contract said that…..
And they were honest about it…
And they gave you the contract to read before you signed it….
What’s the issue? Whyd you sign it? Why did you work there if you didn’t like that?
Anthony is an interesting guy. I like when on-stage pithy comedians have well-observed takes that surprise you.
great podcast.
My favorite thing about comedy is that one of the least offensive comics in the business can genuinely appreciate one of the most tightrope walking comics I've ever heard.
What a wild coincidence. First time watching this show/pod….and 1 week ago I got my 1st bag of Bugles in 20+ years. My grandparents always had a bag in the kitchen.
The Coffee Table was BRUTAL....
Tom is right about Anthony doing the 4th wall thing very effectively. Other comics do it all the time but it ruins the joke a little more often than not. Anthony just has such good delivery, like Jimmy Carr, where you instantly get sucked back in and can even forget about him even saying the preface. Like he said, puts the audience in the trance. Also, Anthony is this generation's Marc Maron with how much of a curmudgeon he is 😂
I love Jeselnik and was so happy to see papa is interviewing him. Breaking bread seems so genuine compared to a lot of other podcasts.
Great talk. I subscribed to both of you gentlemen.
I’m going to re-subscribe to netflix to watch the special then cancel it again next month.
Ps did Tom Papa actually bake that bread..? 😊
I enjoy a conversation with him more than his stand up. His stand-up is cookie cutter. His conversations are much less predictable
I like that Jeselneek did a show in Milwaukee, its in my home state, super glad he didn't get shot. Come to Green Bay some time I'll buy a ticket. Nate dude is coming back a 2nd time, maybe that's a good sign of comedians coming to the crazy north.
47:50 I'm guessing the streaming service was Hulu, which has recently announced that they'll release one stand-up special per month.
Personally I watch all good comedy specials all the way through to the end
This guy is a genious. Underrated.
Just watched The Informant - Papa Tom is a fine actor. Decent movie 🎬
He and I both. I've been sick of hearing this shit for a while. It's your JOB as a comedian to find the way around it. All the props in the world to Anthony calling it out. And for fuck's sake, if anyone is NOT suffering and is NOT silenced, it's Dave Chapelle
Chappelle has been canceled for 5 straight specials for talking trans people. Which means he was never canceled.
The people who ARE cancelled dont really have voice now do they.
@xe666 who is that? Who is unable to speak now? Give me your list.
@@alphaenemyplus8376 Several British comedians, they're just not known names but they still count. Graham Linehan is a bigger one.
@xe666 comedy as a business is transactional. No comic has a fundamental right to the audience's reactions. If you get cancelled it's because you delivered an unacceptable product. Are we trying to force the audience to accept a product they don't want, here, or what?
Anthony and Tom don't retire before coming back to Winnipeg.
Great special! Anthony is one of the greats.
My favourite part of comedy is the industry speak
Omg my 2 favs🎉🎉🎉
I want the 2nd comedy boom to come out loud and strong!!!
I love you both. Been following you and your comedy for quite a long time. Once I saw that stuff on the rally, it was offensive and I immediately thought of Mr offensive himself haha needed to hear his take. I know he was on tour, a special came out, no more tour dates. I figured it must be good. Love you guys!
Well said, Tom. "You don't have to solve it, you just have to recognize it."
Definitely read Sarno. Next, get Schubinger's Unlearn Your Pain.
15 years of chronic pain and actually feeling my feelings was the #1 key to breaking the bullshit loose.
Hoping you two and anyone reading this in pain finds what helps them.
It just occurred to me that Anthony sounds like Christopher Walken. It’s fantastic.
14:35 the third thought and second smile is interesting
The special is incredible for sure.
I watch the specials beginning to end and multiple times.
Bravo...
Tom Papa's body language and mannerisms have a Jack Benny vibe.
💯
@58:00 "clowning"
That's the fallout of Kill Tony.
I respect how much Anthony speaks his mind and does not worry what other comedians say
Its cool that jeselnik doesnt take himself so seriously compared to other comedians
Jeselnik may be the new GOAT.