Thank you for sharing your experience as an Olympic Athlete. Too many people don’t understand / disregard the struggle as laziness, psychosomatic, etc. It is helpful to hear from an extremely high performer just how much it has affected your capacity for exertion. I was an Aussie U20 national champ in Triple Jump, went to D1 college to study + compete and became captain. Worked extremely passionately all day every day. Long covid COMPLETELY wiped me out to spending 20-22hrs per day in bed, and with no good way to explain the situation you inevitably stress yourself about seeming lazy. I found a specialist recently to test for ‘viral reactivation’ of latent viruses, such as EBV, which may point to an underlying mechanism for all this. We oughta keep advocating for more research funding 🤙
This is what I have going on. Long Covid & Reactivated EBV. I have been involved in two studies and they still have no answers or proven rx. The NIH is still actively studying. Look up the “RECOVER” studies. Very interesting. Acupuncture, chiropractic and massage therapy have all helped me as well. All the modalities. Good luck and thank you for sharing. I feel like I am going crazy sometimes with these lingerings issues.
Thank you so so so so much for posting this. So important for the Long Covid community. Remember you’re more than what you can “do”, the measure of your worth is who you are and how you treat others.
PEM is the symptom that the devil created for sure, it's hell (going on 4 years now...). Why so few other famous people especially athletes speak up about LC I don't get. You are the perfect representatives because you're the only ones no body (or at least few) will say that it's in your head, or you just need to work harder, which us "normal" LC patients are constantly told. So thanks for speaking up, I hope more of you and others will come...
Thank you for posting - it's definitely something that should be shared more widely, as there are a lot of Olympians I know who are suffering from it, but who are afraid to divulge their status (for good reason too, as it scares away sponsors.)
you can’t imagine how much I appreciate your choice to share it widely. And I promise many other LC sufferers feel the same way - grateful that you opened up and long covid issue will get more attention!
I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, and I so feel for you. I don't have long COVID (I have basically isolated myself and been masking since March 2020), but I have Dysautonomia and POTS, which are basically what a lot of people with long COVID are getting. Wishing you a good recovery. I can't imagine how hard it must be to be going through this as an athlete.
Thank you for sharing your story, it’s important for people to know anyone can get LC. I’ve shamed and blamed myself for not being fit enough before getting covid but it helps me to know the strongest of people struggle too
I’m also an athlete (not Olympic level). One infection is all it took. It’s been 2.5 years and I’m nowhere near the same person and in some ways getting worse. I’m absolutely astonished at the lack of response around LC. Clinics are not much help and doctors offer nothing. Constant feelings of doom throughout the day not knowing if I’ll ever be well again or even have treatments to attempt curing these issues. I know there’s some out there worse than me(thephysicsgirl) and it’s heart breaking to see
Nathan it must be so gutting to see how the Olympics turned into a massice cluster for fellow athletes due to mass disinformation about covid, and the French government's absolute negligence. Many will develop Long Covid I expect, especially those competing sick and putting their body through enormous stress while harbouring an active infection. Thanks for making this video. Hang in there. (Side note: covid vaccine immunity is very short, as is the immunity acquired from an infection. If y'all havent received a booster within the last 4 months or so, you are *NOT* "fully vaccinated")
Have you talked with Oonagh Cousins? She went through something similar. I've had Long Covid since Jan 2023 -- it's absolutely brutal. Really appreciate any of your efforts to bring awareness to it.
Thank you for sharing, I'm sure it hasn't been easy for you to (for now) let go of your goals. I am currently about 2 years in and home bound. Please keep sharing if you can, too many of us are too sick to speak up for themselves publicly. All the best on your healing!
Thank for your sharing this!! I also got hit with Long COVID after an infection Dec 2023 and have spent a majority of this year focusing on getting to a healthy baseline. So many folks don't know about LC so appreciate you being open about your journey 🫶🏽
I've had me/CFS & post exertional malaise for almost two years now. I am a shell of what I once was. Also believe I have mcas, pots, dysautonomia, and dysbiosis. I'm basically bed bound and can barely work. I quit all exercise and exertion other than what's absolutely necessary. Seems like this hits athletes the worst. I was skateboarding 3.5 miles a day and walking 10 miles with heavy lifting and exertion 4x a day when pem started hitting. Fatigue hit first then the brutal joint pain basically made me bed bound and unable to walk. I'm jealous that you have to ability for health care. I'm too poor so I just supplement, control what I eat and drink, and hope for the best. It's absolutely brutal raw doggin this
I'm so sorry. I can't imagine making choices with zero healthcare. I'm in Canada & despite everything I am always told, it took years then decades to get the inadequate care I'm lucky to access now (I have a great doctor, I support universal healthcare, but our conservatives have been cracking our system for years). I've got a rare autoimmune illness & I have been reading the medical literature + watching the situation bc so much of Long C sounds like my illness, there's so much overlap. It was eerie when one of my good friends got Long C bc she knew my health struggles for decades so she recognized her symptoms from what I described before we even talked about it. She was also very active, a green builder + athletic. Almost 3 years later, she is finally working again. There is hope + recovery, but it took so much time. I was active. I still fight for my mobility. It sucks bc you have to push yourself to a place you know you will suffer more, just to recover a bit more function, while people tell you to "pace yourself" with no other help or guidance while you watch your world fall apart as a helpless observer to your own life. I know how alone I feel in this & I almost lost everything before my physician intervened. I am very lucky & it's still really hard. My heart goes out to you raw-dogging that kind of illness. I am afraid by implication you don't even have a regular physician. May you have friends + family support, at least. I hope they believe what you tell them; people who are well can be glib to people who get sick; they don't understand that our pain + fatigue are clinical, we're not just over-tired or stressed out. I have sh-t reflexes but my friends are old sk8rs, longboard street sk8rs. I love the sound of those wheels on pavement on a summer night; I can only imagine how exhilarating boarding must feel. I hope you heal or it becomes manageable enough you get to ride strong + long again.
I'm so sorry - it can be so brutal. Keep searching to find what works! I'm still experimenting with a variety of therapies with differing levels of evidence... but ultimately it's individual to each person.
I feel you and I’m sorry for your struggle. I don’t know where you’re from but can you get some financial support so you don’t have to work as much? I’m in the UK and on unemployment benefits, plus awaiting more support from work capability and disability benefit. If I’m laying in bed most the time I may as well make money for when I hopefully will be ok to use it again
I have LC since May 2023. I’ve been confined in the hospital 3x last year. High heart rate, low blood pressure and PEM are my worst symptoms. I hate when people take covid lightly and joke about it.
Long Covid messed up my music career, I’m two years in and just now getting back to my career somewhat - it can really stop any life in its tracks. I wish people would take it seriously. These surges could be curbed if people would consider putting on a mask. Less people would suffer long term. I know mandates will never work again because of how we’ve demonized it at this point and mask bans are popping up all over the country. This is a serious public health issue.
Thank you so much for sharing your story as it's so important to bring awareness. I'm wondering where the ~5% of Long Covid patients no. come from, as I've seen estimates between 10-30%.
Thank you fornsharing your story. As someone who's not Olympic level active but still very active, this sucks. It sucks for everyone involved, everyone supporting someone going through it and just... yeah. You're not alone, but thr voice you carry is helping out more than you know. Although I hate that you're going through the battle, I appreciate you talking about it. It's no joke.
I've had long covid since March 2020. Getting slowly better but I'm still not able to do any cardio yet. For my sake you don't have to spare us the details. Could be interesting to hear the details about your post covid / long covid journey. I wish you all the best!.
Took my friend 3 years to be able to work again, she has her own business as a green builder that was very successful & she had to just put a lot on hiatus until she was able to do more recently. Hopefully she hasn't lost her career, she's newly back in it & the fatigue + other symptoms still dog her + flare up. We'll see how it goes. I wish you well in your recovery. I'm sorry for your pain + suffering & I hope you've been able to sustain what you love during this crisis.
can you run for 90 minutes straight or is it completely out the window? what would happen if u do this. i'm also a March 2020er. and i had it 4 more times since.
Some details I wrote in another reply: "This is basically the body's ability to recover, and since getting covid, I simply cannot recover as quickly. My body's ability to get back to "normal" simply hasn't happened across a variety of metrics, from heart rate to lactate threshold to strength/power output.... on the 5-zone heart-rate scale, even half a year after infection, I can only perform activities in zones 1 and 2. If I start flirting with zone 3, the body just starts breaking down. And I can't dream of getting to zones 4 or 5, which is what training for the Olympics requires." That's just physiological - the neurological is a different beast all together.
Definitely not. My "run/jog" these days is measured in 50-step increments. Body just breaks down if my heart rate goes too high. It's improving, albeit super slowly.
Thank you for this. I got it March 2020 and have PEM and Ex Intolerance since , hopefully more eyes on this can help us all. Will be subbing and keeping up with the journey.
PEM = post exertional malaise. This is basically the body's ability to recover, and since getting covid, I simply cannot recover as quickly. My body's ability to get back to "normal" simply hasn't happened across a variety of metrics, from heart rate to lactate threshold to strength/power output.... on the 5-zone heart-rate scale, even half a year after infection, I can only perform activities in zones 1 and 2. If I start flirting with zone 3, the body just starts breaking down. And I can't dream of getting to zones 4 or 5, which is what training for the Olympics requires.
I should have expressed myself better, I was thinking about a video on the topic from your view. It's sadly very misunderstood by many. My limit until PEM sets in is about 65 steps too, it's brutal, neurological limits have improved with some drugs (LDN and LDA, which have at least a couple of good studies backing them up) but it's still incredibly tough, I hope we get a cure FAST, we're all so tired of waiting and doing almost nothing...
24 years later in my case, mecfs simply kills quality of life. simple things, like reading books has become to much and difficult. when one used to read 1500 words a minute that kinda hurts.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for speaking out! The vax injuries and long covid ate REAL and we need the medical establishment to work to treat them instead of pretending these don't exist!!! We are hurting and can't get doctors to say what's wrong so it can be treated instead of merely "managing" symptoms. .
Thank you for sharing. I had a bad case of covid in the fall of 2021. Then about 9 months later the long covid symptoms came in like a flood. There was brain fog, loss of appetite, lethargy after exertion, joint pain and finally a rash across my shoulders and neck. After much research I realized that many doctors in other countries had treated covid with a simple molecule that can be made by a cheap water treatment used for camping and hiking in wilderness areas. This water treatment uses oxidation to kill all the pathogens in untreated water. It's also used in about 50% of the water treatment plants here in the U.S. So it's perfectly safe to drink.Because it creates more oxygen in the body it boosts your energy while destroying the cause of illness. I noticed in your video that your doctor had you in a hyperbaric chamber. That treatment is used by Dr. Pierre Kory in his 3 tiered approach to treating long covid. It's used as a last resort because it's so expensive, but he says it's the most effective. The water treatment does the same thing for pennies. It floods the body with extra oxygen. Once I made the decision to try this unorthodox approach I ordered the treatment and tried a couple of light doses. The next morning all my symptoms were gone. My appetite came back. My brain fog was gone and I had energy. My wife who has been a nurse for over 30 years was astonished. She had never witnessed such a rapid turn around. She has worked in home care, hospice care and the hospital setting. She now has her doctorate and teaches at university. It should be mentioned that this same molecule is used to clean up ebola and anthrax contamination. It was used to decontaminate buildings after the anthrax attacks in Washington D. C. and it's used at ebola treatment sites to decontaminate workers and the site. This treatment has been around since the early 20th century. During WW1 a Nobel laureate doctor ( Dr. Alexis Carrel ) used this to treat gangrene in soldiers sent back to hospital with shell fragments imbedded in their limbs. This may be the first known use in medicine. Shortly after this our health care system changed to an almost exclusive pharmaceutical approach. $$$$$ I hope you find the answers you are searching for.
@@Not_Even_Wrong What conspiracies? You don't think youtube is keeping track of what you're saying and shadow banning and throttling accounts when they talk about the wrong stuff? LMAAOOOOOOOO
anyone watching this, i promise you are not in better shape than an olympian and are not immune to the effects of repeated covid infections.
thank you for sharing your story. i’ve had long covid for 3 years now and it’s definitely the more people who speak out about it the better!
You are so welcome!
Thank you for sharing your experience as an Olympic Athlete. Too many people don’t understand / disregard the struggle as laziness, psychosomatic, etc.
It is helpful to hear from an extremely high performer just how much it has affected your capacity for exertion.
I was an Aussie U20 national champ in Triple Jump, went to D1 college to study + compete and became captain. Worked extremely passionately all day every day. Long covid COMPLETELY wiped me out to spending 20-22hrs per day in bed, and with no good way to explain the situation you inevitably stress yourself about seeming lazy.
I found a specialist recently to test for ‘viral reactivation’ of latent viruses, such as EBV, which may point to an underlying mechanism for all this. We oughta keep advocating for more research funding 🤙
This is what I have going on. Long Covid & Reactivated EBV. I have been involved in two studies and they still have no answers or proven rx. The NIH is still actively studying. Look up the “RECOVER” studies. Very interesting. Acupuncture, chiropractic and massage therapy have all helped me as well. All the modalities. Good luck and thank you for sharing. I feel like I am going crazy sometimes with these lingerings issues.
Thank you so so so so much for posting this. So important for the Long Covid community. Remember you’re more than what you can “do”, the measure of your worth is who you are and how you treat others.
Well said!
PEM is the symptom that the devil created for sure, it's hell (going on 4 years now...).
Why so few other famous people especially athletes speak up about LC I don't get. You are the perfect representatives because you're the only ones no body (or at least few) will say that it's in your head, or you just need to work harder, which us "normal" LC patients are constantly told. So thanks for speaking up, I hope more of you and others will come...
Thank you for posting - it's definitely something that should be shared more widely, as there are a lot of Olympians I know who are suffering from it, but who are afraid to divulge their status (for good reason too, as it scares away sponsors.)
you can’t imagine how much I appreciate your choice to share it widely. And I promise many other LC sufferers feel the same way - grateful that you opened up and long covid issue will get more attention!
I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, and I so feel for you. I don't have long COVID (I have basically isolated myself and been masking since March 2020), but I have Dysautonomia and POTS, which are basically what a lot of people with long COVID are getting.
Wishing you a good recovery. I can't imagine how hard it must be to be going through this as an athlete.
Thank you for sharing your story, it’s important for people to know anyone can get LC. I’ve shamed and blamed myself for not being fit enough before getting covid but it helps me to know the strongest of people struggle too
I’m also an athlete (not Olympic level). One infection is all it took. It’s been 2.5 years and I’m nowhere near the same person and in some ways getting worse.
I’m absolutely astonished at the lack of response around LC. Clinics are not much help and doctors offer nothing. Constant feelings of doom throughout the day not knowing if I’ll ever be well again or even have treatments to attempt curing these issues. I know there’s some out there worse than me(thephysicsgirl) and it’s heart breaking to see
Nathan it must be so gutting to see how the Olympics turned into a massice cluster for fellow athletes due to mass disinformation about covid, and the French government's absolute negligence. Many will develop Long Covid I expect, especially those competing sick and putting their body through enormous stress while harbouring an active infection. Thanks for making this video. Hang in there.
(Side note: covid vaccine immunity is very short, as is the immunity acquired from an infection. If y'all havent received a booster within the last 4 months or so, you are *NOT* "fully vaccinated")
Have you talked with Oonagh Cousins? She went through something similar. I've had Long Covid since Jan 2023 -- it's absolutely brutal. Really appreciate any of your efforts to bring awareness to it.
I haven't! It's definitely a debilitating disease for the unfortunate percentage of us who got "long hauled"
@@CrumpStuff Hey Nathan, please tweet about your story too.
Thank you for sharing, I'm sure it hasn't been easy for you to (for now) let go of your goals. I am currently about 2 years in and home bound. Please keep sharing if you can, too many of us are too sick to speak up for themselves publicly. All the best on your healing!
Thank you for posting. This is really tough. I wish you the best possible outcome.
Thank for your sharing this!! I also got hit with Long COVID after an infection Dec 2023 and have spent a majority of this year focusing on getting to a healthy baseline. So many folks don't know about LC so appreciate you being open about your journey 🫶🏽
I've had me/CFS & post exertional malaise for almost two years now. I am a shell of what I once was. Also believe I have mcas, pots, dysautonomia, and dysbiosis. I'm basically bed bound and can barely work. I quit all exercise and exertion other than what's absolutely necessary. Seems like this hits athletes the worst. I was skateboarding 3.5 miles a day and walking 10 miles with heavy lifting and exertion 4x a day when pem started hitting. Fatigue hit first then the brutal joint pain basically made me bed bound and unable to walk. I'm jealous that you have to ability for health care. I'm too poor so I just supplement, control what I eat and drink, and hope for the best. It's absolutely brutal raw doggin this
Thanks for sharing your story. I wish you the best 🙏🏻
I'm so sorry. I can't imagine making choices with zero healthcare. I'm in Canada & despite everything I am always told, it took years then decades to get the inadequate care I'm lucky to access now (I have a great doctor, I support universal healthcare, but our conservatives have been cracking our system for years). I've got a rare autoimmune illness & I have been reading the medical literature + watching the situation bc so much of Long C sounds like my illness, there's so much overlap. It was eerie when one of my good friends got Long C bc she knew my health struggles for decades so she recognized her symptoms from what I described before we even talked about it. She was also very active, a green builder + athletic. Almost 3 years later, she is finally working again. There is hope + recovery, but it took so much time.
I was active. I still fight for my mobility. It sucks bc you have to push yourself to a place you know you will suffer more, just to recover a bit more function, while people tell you to "pace yourself" with no other help or guidance while you watch your world fall apart as a helpless observer to your own life. I know how alone I feel in this & I almost lost everything before my physician intervened. I am very lucky & it's still really hard. My heart goes out to you raw-dogging that kind of illness. I am afraid by implication you don't even have a regular physician. May you have friends + family support, at least. I hope they believe what you tell them; people who are well can be glib to people who get sick; they don't understand that our pain + fatigue are clinical, we're not just over-tired or stressed out.
I have sh-t reflexes but my friends are old sk8rs, longboard street sk8rs. I love the sound of those wheels on pavement on a summer night; I can only imagine how exhilarating boarding must feel. I hope you heal or it becomes manageable enough you get to ride strong + long again.
I'm so sorry - it can be so brutal. Keep searching to find what works! I'm still experimenting with a variety of therapies with differing levels of evidence... but ultimately it's individual to each person.
I feel you and I’m sorry for your struggle. I don’t know where you’re from but can you get some financial support so you don’t have to work as much? I’m in the UK and on unemployment benefits, plus awaiting more support from work capability and disability benefit. If I’m laying in bed most the time I may as well make money for when I hopefully will be ok to use it again
I have LC since May 2023. I’ve been confined in the hospital 3x last year. High heart rate, low blood pressure and PEM are my worst symptoms. I hate when people take covid lightly and joke about it.
Long Covid messed up my music career, I’m two years in and just now getting back to my career somewhat - it can really stop any life in its tracks. I wish people would take it seriously. These surges could be curbed if people would consider putting on a mask. Less people would suffer long term. I know mandates will never work again because of how we’ve demonized it at this point and mask bans are popping up all over the country. This is a serious public health issue.
Thank you so much for sharing your story as it's so important to bring awareness.
I'm wondering where the ~5% of Long Covid patients no. come from, as I've seen estimates between 10-30%.
Thank you fornsharing your story. As someone who's not Olympic level active but still very active, this sucks. It sucks for everyone involved, everyone supporting someone going through it and just... yeah. You're not alone, but thr voice you carry is helping out more than you know. Although I hate that you're going through the battle, I appreciate you talking about it. It's no joke.
I've had long covid since March 2020. Getting slowly better but I'm still not able to do any cardio yet. For my sake you don't have to spare us the details. Could be interesting to hear the details about your post covid / long covid journey. I wish you all the best!.
Took my friend 3 years to be able to work again, she has her own business as a green builder that was very successful & she had to just put a lot on hiatus until she was able to do more recently. Hopefully she hasn't lost her career, she's newly back in it & the fatigue + other symptoms still dog her + flare up. We'll see how it goes. I wish you well in your recovery. I'm sorry for your pain + suffering & I hope you've been able to sustain what you love during this crisis.
Agree we could use journey details, even mundane stuff can be helpful!
can you run for 90 minutes straight or is it completely out the window? what would happen if u do this. i'm also a March 2020er. and i had it 4 more times since.
Some details I wrote in another reply: "This is basically the body's ability to recover, and since getting covid, I simply cannot recover as quickly. My body's ability to get back to "normal" simply hasn't happened across a variety of metrics, from heart rate to lactate threshold to strength/power output.... on the 5-zone heart-rate scale, even half a year after infection, I can only perform activities in zones 1 and 2. If I start flirting with zone 3, the body just starts breaking down. And I can't dream of getting to zones 4 or 5, which is what training for the Olympics requires." That's just physiological - the neurological is a different beast all together.
Definitely not. My "run/jog" these days is measured in 50-step increments. Body just breaks down if my heart rate goes too high. It's improving, albeit super slowly.
That's why they're trying to sweep it under the rug because money is more important than health.
Thank you for this. I got it March 2020 and have PEM and Ex Intolerance since , hopefully more eyes on this can help us all. Will be subbing and keeping up with the journey.
Please explain PEM and why even ab olympic athlete can't "just fight through it " as so many of us are told.
PEM = post exertional malaise. This is basically the body's ability to recover, and since getting covid, I simply cannot recover as quickly. My body's ability to get back to "normal" simply hasn't happened across a variety of metrics, from heart rate to lactate threshold to strength/power output.... on the 5-zone heart-rate scale, even half a year after infection, I can only perform activities in zones 1 and 2. If I start flirting with zone 3, the body just starts breaking down. And I can't dream of getting to zones 4 or 5, which is what training for the Olympics requires.
I should have expressed myself better, I was thinking about a video on the topic from your view. It's sadly very misunderstood by many.
My limit until PEM sets in is about 65 steps too, it's brutal, neurological limits have improved with some drugs (LDN and LDA, which have at least a couple of good studies backing them up) but it's still incredibly tough, I hope we get a cure FAST, we're all so tired of waiting and doing almost nothing...
Took a year to get over it during 2020 and still got post exercise issues. Don’t let it define you
Thank you for posting this.
You're welcome
@@CrumpStuff Do you have POTS?
Very important video, thank you for sharing your Experience with this hell. All the best to you.
24 years later in my case, mecfs simply kills quality of life.
simple things, like reading books has become to much and difficult.
when one used to read 1500 words a minute that kinda hurts.
Thank you for this
Nice eyebrows man! 🔥
Thank you, thank you, thank you for speaking out! The vax injuries and long covid ate REAL and we need the medical establishment to work to treat them instead of pretending these don't exist!!! We are hurting and can't get doctors to say what's wrong so it can be treated instead of merely "managing" symptoms.
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Do you have post exertional malaise?
Thank you for sharing. I had a bad case of covid in the fall of 2021. Then about 9 months later the long covid symptoms came in like a flood. There was brain fog, loss of appetite, lethargy after exertion, joint pain and finally a rash across my shoulders and neck. After much research I realized that many doctors in other countries had treated covid with a simple molecule that can be made by a cheap water treatment used for camping and hiking in wilderness areas. This water treatment uses oxidation to kill all the pathogens in untreated water. It's also used in about 50% of the water treatment plants here in the U.S. So it's perfectly safe to drink.Because it creates more oxygen in the body it boosts your energy while destroying the cause of illness. I noticed in your video that your doctor had you in a hyperbaric chamber. That treatment is used by Dr. Pierre Kory in his 3 tiered approach to treating long covid. It's used as a last resort because it's so expensive, but he says it's the most effective. The water treatment does the same thing for pennies. It floods the body with extra oxygen.
Once I made the decision to try this unorthodox approach I ordered the treatment and tried a couple of light doses. The next morning all my symptoms were gone. My appetite came back. My brain fog was gone and I had energy. My wife who has been a nurse for over 30 years was astonished. She had never witnessed such a rapid turn around. She has worked in home care, hospice care and the hospital setting. She now has her doctorate and teaches at university.
It should be mentioned that this same molecule is used to clean up ebola and anthrax contamination. It was used to decontaminate buildings after the anthrax attacks in Washington D. C. and it's used at ebola treatment sites to decontaminate workers and the site.
This treatment has been around since the early 20th century. During WW1 a Nobel laureate doctor ( Dr. Alexis Carrel ) used this to treat gangrene in soldiers sent back to hospital with shell fragments imbedded in their limbs. This may be the first known use in medicine. Shortly after this our health care system changed to an almost exclusive pharmaceutical approach. $$$$$
I hope you find the answers you are searching for.
"...I'm lucky to have..." what many people don't have.
Don't spread this disease.
Really sorry to hear that they made you take the thing back in 2021.
What are you referring to?
@@Not_Even_Wrong It's best not to say it.
@@jonnynice8366 of course you're an anti vaccination maniac? He didn't even say that, please go away.
Please take the conspiracies somewhere else
@@Not_Even_Wrong What conspiracies? You don't think youtube is keeping track of what you're saying and shadow banning and throttling accounts when they talk about the wrong stuff? LMAAOOOOOOOO