Will never forget my 106 in the 80's.And the emotion upon opening the box and actually pluggin it in and starting rehearsel with brand new great keyboard.
waow. Best demos of the system 8, by far and so usefull for me. I bought this synth, but i am not a real keyboard player. Your vidéos show the real sounds of this machine, very inspiring, good patchs. Thank you so much, from France.
it really sounds nice .. nice playing and i love my System 8. This is the only synth keyboard I have and will only have for years to come.. I don't need any other synths now I have 4 synths inside this awesome machine.
I love the sounds of you playing and patches. I've been watching the Ed Diaz videos and designing my own patches. Your video is very informative too. Thanks for uploading it. Take care, Sam from machiwoomiapoo channel. :)
Definitely the best demo I've seen for this. I was doubting the System 8 and leaning more towards the Prophet Rev2 because every demo on this synth has sounded over-compressed and lifeless, but this is keeping me interested. Is this just going straight from the synth into the computer, no processing?
I have to say some of these sound utterly amazing. I love 80s synthpop and New Wave, and I am torn on whether to get an alpha Juno 2 for the physical 80s connection and the 61 keys, or this for the extra features, effects and direct connectivity.
Mike, the jam starting around 5min mark, specifically, 5:33- on-LOVE IT whats the song? or are you just jamming? & the pitch bend so cool, I have 2 juno 106s ( well, one i got in the USA was called a synth plus 60. The Juno 106 was my 1st new synth i bought the floor model in japan. Thanks for your demo and your playing. Can't get that tune outta my head what do you call it?
Thanks Viva F, that’s an original tune I came up with - have since fleshed it out into a full tune - will post soon! Juno 106s are beasts - great sounding synths - enjoy!
Mike Pensini cool tune can't wait to hear it please post full song, and don't change it too much! So refreshing to find new instrumentals nowadays that stay in my head. --viva
I love this thing. As I already have a Kiwi 106 I'd possibly appreciated if they'd included the Juno 60 architecture instead ,or all features from both even better, but still. I've been battling to decide between this & the JDXA but my decision meter is beginning to swing towards the system 8! It looks gorgeous IMO too.
i was contemplating buying the roland boutiques, but the 4 note polyphony kind of put me off. so if you buy this system- it's basically 3 roland VA synths in one?
@@maccagee693 I ended up not selling it, but it's only for very specific situations for it's own sound. After I ran into through my tube gear, it brought it to life a little bit. Also what changed my mind is the mad possibilities of synthesis. Still wish I would have went with the fantom though.
Cool demo, is the audio quality better than the Roland cloud plugins also with the plug outs can you use the effects in the system 8 or is it just what the original synth had thanks
Hi Evan, I don't have the Roland Cloud plugins so I couldn't give you a direct comparison. I imagine they would sound fairly identical with the exception of any colouration difference between the D/A converters in the synths and the D/A converters on your sound card. Each engine has its own effects options - you can't mix and match at this stage as far as I'm aware.
The Roland Cloud versions should sound identical as long as you don't use the "Reduce CPU Usage" setting (which appears to enable 96 kHz oversampling internally). They use a TON of CPU though, and in most cases they don't sound that different with the setting enabled. The System-8 always runs in the high quality mode. Of the three effects, the first one (labeled "Effect") has different options for each model. The Jupiter-8 had no effects at all, so the Effect knob has all the same effects as the System-8 engine. On the Juno-106, two of those effects are replaced with the Chorus 1 and Chorus 2 of the original. On the JX-3P, one of the effects is the JX-3P chorus. The other two effects (Delay/Chorus and Reverb) are the same for all four synths.
The boutiques are based on the same ACB (analog component behavior) modeling and also sound great. The format works really well for drum machines and mono synths like the TB-03 and SH-01A. I can't recommend the polysynth boutiques though. The four voice limit is a real bummer, and the tiny controls are really cramped and hard to use (especially the JP-08). The System-8 is a much better choice for polysynths. The rest of the boutiques are excellent.
The free "included" ones should be freely available to download from Roland. The extra optional ones can be downloaded with a Roland Cloud subscription I believe.
if this would have been a desktop/rack/nonkeyboard version or a version with more keys it would be a no brainer, but how can one emulate these synths and give only 49 keys?
I use everything through an 88 key midi controller and started as a piano player so even 73 keys is a travesty to me, the classic versions of these synths had 61 keys I think and even less than that seems inconceivable.
Solomon Jenkins I feel your pain. I'm constantly playing in the bass end, so when 73 key keyboards only go to a low E (which is generally the case) l have to shift the patch down an octave. It's a shame tho, because then I have lost an octave at the top in trying to gain a few notes at the bottom. When it comes to synths, I tend to think 5 octaves (starting at C1) is the perfect number for being able to voice a full chord the way I want to. If I need more than that, I can always midi into a full sized keyboard.
i thiunk the biggest difference between JU-06/System 8/And the real Juno 106 is the output capability. Which is on the low end very Weak on the boutique system 8 is better but still compressed. Sadly But system 8 is not bad, but might go with the JDXA which has more output.
It sounds good, but it doesn't sound like a 106.. The real 106 didn't even have an arpeggiator. The plugout still doesn't have the low end, the wideness, or aggression (VCA) of the real 106. The low end of the plugout distorts and fizzles out when on the real thing, the low end is very present and near speaker-ripping.. The SYS-8 sounds great, very clean and polished. It's very much a high-end VA synth with very nice sounds.. But the 106 plugout comes nowhere near a real Juno-106. I thought the JP-8 plugout sounded much closer to a real JP-8 than the 106 plugout sounded to a real 106.
To me it sounds pretty much identical to a real Juno-106, but the addition of an arpeggiator, sequencer, and velocity sensitivity actually makes it even better than the original IMO. You can disable velocity when you don't want it, but it can make a sound far more expressive.
@@st0rmchild Some people don't get the difference. People have different ears. To me, I can absolutely tell the difference between digital emulation and analog. Roland's emulations are great, but they are not identical. Not if you have ears. Again, it's fine if you can't tell the difference, more power to you. But that doesn't mean there isn't one.
No one is more motivated to believe an emulation of a classic synth sounds nothing like the real thing than someone who owns the original (confirmation bias protecting the cherished belief that the original is made of magic pixie dust and can never be recreated). I've used real ones many times. The plugout version sounds practically identical.
Will never forget my 106 in the 80's.And the emotion upon opening the box and actually pluggin it in and starting rehearsel with brand new great keyboard.
i could listen to those brassy chord progressions all day! came here for the demo stayed for the music. amazing.
Thank you Daniel!
Thanks for this video, awesome overview of the 106, and amazing playing ! Subscribed
waow. Best demos of the system 8, by far and so usefull for me. I bought this synth, but i am not a real keyboard player. Your vidéos show the real sounds of this machine, very inspiring, good patchs. Thank you so much, from France.
+jerome v Thanks Jerome, appreciate the comments!
Excellent. I appreciate when someone can and does really play like you, Ujiie etc. and not only produces ‚sophisticated noise‘.
Thank you!
Excellent playing and demo, wow thank you so much Mike.
it really sounds nice .. nice playing and i love my System 8. This is the only synth keyboard I have and will only have for years to come.. I don't need any other synths now I have 4 synths inside this awesome machine.
+Mark Christopher Glad to hear you're enjoying it Mark! Can always add more PlugOuts as well down the road.
amazing sound, thank you for the review, i want it to listen how plugout sounds
Cheers PierGen!
I love the sounds of you playing and patches. I've been watching the Ed Diaz videos and designing my own patches. Your video is very informative too. Thanks for uploading it. Take care, Sam from machiwoomiapoo channel. :)
Thanks Sam
Love your playing.
Thanks Nick!
You never disappoint! Very inspiring man! I wish I could play like you!
12:30 24k magic baby!
Great technic. Three finger solo. The S8 is fantastic
Great demo!
Thank you Marc!
lots of people have synths, few can really play them, excellent video
Thank you!
love the riffs, nice man!
Thank you Jayclay Mac!
Nice ! Thank you very much for that video.
No worries Martin!
Definitely the best demo I've seen for this. I was doubting the System 8 and leaning more towards the Prophet Rev2 because every demo on this synth has sounded over-compressed and lifeless, but this is keeping me interested.
Is this just going straight from the synth into the computer, no processing?
That's correct Danny, straight into my audio interface/logic
Sold! My next synth, sounds fantastic!
Cheers Burnie :)
Mike Pensini Where abouts in Aus you from Mike?
+Burnie Bee Based in Sydney
Mike Pensini Oh cool, the place I'm leaving tomorrow.. can't stand the traffic. Lol
That's sic man you're awesome
Thank you!
I have to say some of these sound utterly amazing. I love 80s synthpop and New Wave, and I am torn on whether to get an alpha Juno 2 for the physical 80s connection and the 61 keys, or this for the extra features, effects and direct connectivity.
Both great instruments! Although the aJ2 is a classic, I feel the S8 is much more versatile and also had all the modern niceties!
@@MikePensini I've decided on an S8. I have go with practicality.
Mike, the jam starting around 5min mark, specifically, 5:33- on-LOVE IT whats the song? or are you just jamming? & the pitch bend so cool, I have 2 juno 106s ( well, one i got in the USA was called a synth plus 60. The Juno 106 was my 1st new synth i bought the floor model in japan. Thanks for your demo and your playing. Can't get that tune outta my head what do you call it?
Thanks Viva F, that’s an original tune I came up with - have since fleshed it out into a full tune - will post soon! Juno 106s are beasts - great sounding synths - enjoy!
Mike Pensini cool tune can't wait to hear it please post full song, and don't change it too much! So refreshing to find new instrumentals nowadays that stay in my head. --viva
I love this thing. As I already have a Kiwi 106 I'd possibly appreciated if they'd included the Juno 60 architecture instead ,or all features from both even better, but still. I've been battling to decide between this & the JDXA but my decision meter is beginning to swing towards the system 8! It looks gorgeous IMO too.
Can't go wrong with either! They released a Juno 60 Boutique, would be great if they release the Plugin for S8 Owners.
Some envelope/filter tips to create the brass stab patch in another synth? Great demo
Thanks for turning down the reverb!
Haha, no worries. Easier to hear the true Juno sound when you match the FX to the original :)
lololol to be fair, the system-8 has such a complicated chain, its easy to forget stuff. I've ruined patches I was making a few different ways.
@@MikePensini I had the original one in the late 80s/early 90s. You are correctamundo
2:12 very nice trance sound
Some great sounds on this Synth/Plugout!
@@MikePensini This tune was produced in performance mode?
@11:35 Beast mode! :D
Haha!
i was contemplating buying the roland boutiques, but the 4 note polyphony kind of put me off. so if you buy this system- it's basically 3 roland VA synths in one?
That's correct. And you can load in extras from the Roland Cloud if you want to down the road.
Good stuff Mike.. sounds really good, and nice chops as well :)
Thank you Payt!
The Spider next to me just got pretty jealous 11:40
The plugouts sound way better loaded within the hardware going through the A/D converters vs using them as VST'S, can't change my mind.
They definitely feel very natural and like pure hardware when in the S8. Zero latency and the hardware is just the perfect match.
Yea, I refuse to use soft synths anymore. I almost s old this same day I got it.
@@CDA43 What do you mean you almost sold the S8 the same day? Why?
@@maccagee693 I ended up not selling it, but it's only for very specific situations for it's own sound. After I ran into through my tube gear, it brought it to life a little bit. Also what changed my mind is the mad possibilities of synthesis. Still wish I would have went with the fantom though.
@@CDA43 would you say the fantom is better? I have one just asking cause I’m thinking about getting the System 8
Nice! Does the 106 plugout have 8 note polyphony?
+ninnyhammer77 Yep, it sure does.
I'm curious if you still have this
Hi MP - I do - and use it quite frequently!
Very nice . Thanks
Thank you!
Nice Demo! And nice playing :) What music influences do you have?
Hi Eaglechild - Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Oscar Peterson, Jamiroquai, Stevie Wonder - to name just a few!
Lots of Funk/Soul/Jazz for sure.
Cool demo, is the audio quality better than the Roland cloud plugins also with the plug outs can you use the effects in the system 8 or is it just what the original synth had thanks
Hi Evan, I don't have the Roland Cloud plugins so I couldn't give you a direct comparison. I imagine they would sound fairly identical with the exception of any colouration difference between the D/A converters in the synths and the D/A converters on your sound card. Each engine has its own effects options - you can't mix and match at this stage as far as I'm aware.
The Roland Cloud versions should sound identical as long as you don't use the "Reduce CPU Usage" setting (which appears to enable 96 kHz oversampling internally). They use a TON of CPU though, and in most cases they don't sound that different with the setting enabled. The System-8 always runs in the high quality mode.
Of the three effects, the first one (labeled "Effect") has different options for each model. The Jupiter-8 had no effects at all, so the Effect knob has all the same effects as the System-8 engine. On the Juno-106, two of those effects are replaced with the Chorus 1 and Chorus 2 of the original. On the JX-3P, one of the effects is the JX-3P chorus. The other two effects (Delay/Chorus and Reverb) are the same for all four synths.
Big thumbs up!
+D r Jezz Thanks man!
Do you like the boutique series they made?
The boutiques are based on the same ACB (analog component behavior) modeling and also sound great. The format works really well for drum machines and mono synths like the TB-03 and SH-01A. I can't recommend the polysynth boutiques though. The four voice limit is a real bummer, and the tiny controls are really cramped and hard to use (especially the JP-08). The System-8 is a much better choice for polysynths. The rest of the boutiques are excellent.
I habe too buy This synth, maybe in 3 month
14:15 wow
😀
Do you get these presets with the Roland cloud?
Yes mate, most of these are preset patches.
How do you get the rest of the plug outs?
The free "included" ones should be freely available to download from Roland. The extra optional ones can be downloaded with a Roland Cloud subscription I believe.
I'm new to this instrument. How do you load the plug outs. I heard it's fairly complicated with updating firmware and using A daw
Easiest way is using the Roland Cloud and associated softsynth versions. You can then "push" them to the hardware from the softsynth over USB.
if this would have been a desktop/rack/nonkeyboard version or a version with more keys it would be a no brainer, but how can one emulate these synths and give only 49 keys?
I have no problem with the 49 keys to be honest. Fits perfectly on my desk in the studio and is the perfect size for a top board when gigging.
I use everything through an 88 key midi controller and started as a piano player so even 73 keys is a travesty to me, the classic versions of these synths had 61 keys I think and even less than that seems inconceivable.
btw rad performance
@@MikePensini What I like about 49 keys is that is says to the layman this isn't a piano or an organ its a synth!
Solomon Jenkins I feel your pain. I'm constantly playing in the bass end, so when 73 key keyboards only go to a low E (which is generally the case) l have to shift the patch down an octave. It's a shame tho, because then I have lost an octave at the top in trying to gain a few notes at the bottom. When it comes to synths, I tend to think 5 octaves (starting at C1) is the perfect number for being able to voice a full chord the way I want to. If I need more than that, I can always midi into a full sized keyboard.
Hey Mike! Any noticeable difference between the JU-06 and the Plug Out System 8 Version? I'm not sure which one to get... D':
The biggest one is polyphony. 4 voices on the JU-06 and 8 on the PlugOut
It's the same engine
i thiunk the biggest difference between JU-06/System 8/And the real Juno 106 is the output capability. Which is on the low end very Weak on the boutique system 8 is better but still compressed. Sadly But system 8 is not bad, but might go with the JDXA which has more output.
12:15
What do you like better? The System 8, or the JD-XA?
Completely different instruments. S8 for 80s Roland synth emulation, JD-XA for analog/digital crossover and layered textures.
I would immediately buy the Juno 106 PlugIn but never rent !
Nice. The chord memory function isn't anything remarkable though. My Korg Polysix already had it in the early 80s, and many synths since then as well.
True, it's not new or groundbreaking, but it's a nice feature to have.
my lord jeez
😊🙏🏼
It sounds good, but it doesn't sound like a 106.. The real 106 didn't even have an arpeggiator. The plugout still doesn't have the low end, the wideness, or aggression (VCA) of the real 106. The low end of the plugout distorts and fizzles out when on the real thing, the low end is very present and near speaker-ripping.. The SYS-8 sounds great, very clean and polished. It's very much a high-end VA synth with very nice sounds.. But the 106 plugout comes nowhere near a real Juno-106. I thought the JP-8 plugout sounded much closer to a real JP-8 than the 106 plugout sounded to a real 106.
To me it sounds pretty much identical to a real Juno-106, but the addition of an arpeggiator, sequencer, and velocity sensitivity actually makes it even better than the original IMO. You can disable velocity when you don't want it, but it can make a sound far more expressive.
@@st0rmchild Some people don't get the difference. People have different ears. To me, I can absolutely tell the difference between digital emulation and analog. Roland's emulations are great, but they are not identical. Not if you have ears. Again, it's fine if you can't tell the difference, more power to you. But that doesn't mean there isn't one.
Sounds absolutely nothing like a Juno 106.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Well, given that I owned a Juno 106 for about 10 years I think I do. How long have you owned one for???
No one is more motivated to believe an emulation of a classic synth sounds nothing like the real thing than someone who owns the original (confirmation bias protecting the cherished belief that the original is made of magic pixie dust and can never be recreated). I've used real ones many times. The plugout version sounds practically identical.
Stormchild agree. I still have the 106 and now the S8. I can Definitely make them two sound alike.
12:15
Gotta love the poly brass!