The Onision documentary is so trash that I gave up after Ep 1
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the only way i got through this was because I was simultaneously forcing everyone on stream to watch it with me! i volunteer all of you for sacrifice during tomorrow's stream: twitch.tv/dangelno
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Volunteering to be sacrificed 🥰
heyy
Valid af king
sir yes sir
*Onision... people liked him, until they didn't*
Thank you Discovery
I mean... I can't say that's not true
Yeah, they really blew that case wide open there
Woah. 🤯
Seriously, your coverage of Onision was respectful, coherent, and 2000% better overall.
Your youtube channel is amazing. I love so many of your videos :)) Keep up the good work!
"he was good until these women wanted to talk" teenagers. children. that's the word you're looking for, not women
remember when chris hansen kept calling them, "underage women"
Yes, that word downplays everything.
To be fair, they're all women now, so calling them children would just be incorrect and kinda rude.
@@mischr13 I don't think I'd really criticise him for that - "women" is a more respectful way to address (now adult) victims, and "underage" makes it pretty damningly clear that it was a crime??
@@alexbennet4195 there's no such thing as underage women. if he's talking about them when they were underage there's no reason to point out they are women now. everyone knows girls (usually) eventually become women. it's not relevant. I don't think he was being intentional. I think he's an idiot and didn't handle this with the care it deserved. He just saw money signs.
The whole "they had a bad childhood" schtick makes me want to vomit. Oh, his parents divorced and he got treated shitty? Me too, but I've never tried to have sex with children.
Right it’s such a cop out
it’s exactly the same thing as how people try and excuse school shooters’ behaviour because they were “sad” and “people didn’t like them very much 😢”
High five on that sis!
Amen.
Right. It's just a convenient excuse for them ugh. 😒
smdh throw onision away 🗑🗑🗑 🚮🚮🚮🚮
The victims didn't consent to have their stories told. Discovery+ did not listen. I will not support this documentary because I do not support profiting off of other's trauma without consent.
THIS HAD TO BE SAID!! people named rose are absolute royalty
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!!!
Edit: why did I forget multiple words-
why would they do that? that's disgusting not asking for consent. i wouldn't support this either
@@strawberry1948 Oh no they asked, and they were told no and did it anyways. So it’s even worse
Let's not forget about hansen and that production team tampering evidence basically fucking up the FBI case
I hate it when people go into the "the pedophile had a bad childhood" argument as if it excuses anything, they still chose to do what they did
Just because someone has a bad history doesn’t give them the excuse to make a horrible future.
I'd agree that that is true for 95% of people, but there are in fact people that were abused and indoctrinated as children to the extent that they truly believe that that is how you show love.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access that's it exactly! Many people come through bad things and don't become pedophiles, so there's no reason to use it as an excuse
@@mrsmopsi9333 that's a fair argument, abuse can really warp people's world view and it's very sad
I agree, but I do understand why people try to search for reasons and meaning. It's a human need to find meaning in chaos.
not them trying to justify him being a child groomer bc his parents got a divorce??
RIGHHTT LIKE WHaT??
haha, that is nit an excuse
No, they didn’t. I watched the full documentary series and they did not try to paint that narrative. They explained how Onision tried to paint that narrative for himself to get out of taking accountability
Greg’s dad was the one that said that though... i haven’t watched the documentary yet but i doubt that’s the case. it’s better to watch it first.
To be fair, if you watch onisions video, he shows receipts of Sarah saying how she was never groomed. Now I’m NOT saying I support onisions but he did show proof that Shiloh was just trying to end him years after their breakup. I thought it was interesting
"His parents divorced and it messed him up he was such a sweet kid. 😢"
My parents were never married, screamed at each other near every damn day, my dad would punch holes in the drywall and scare the shit out of me. I'm not a perfect human being, but I didn't grow up to be a child grooming pedophile. A traumatic childhood isn't a 'get out of jail free' card for the problematic shit you do as an adult.
Yes, please and thank you
That's right no excuses.
Exactly. 1000x exactly.
exactly. my parents never married but they’d fight so much. when they eventually broke up because my dad cheated on my mom, they’d shit talk each other to us & get us to keep secrets. my mom had so many drunk friends over every week, they’d be loud and start fights on school nights. my dad’s girlfriend’s kids would get us yelled at. but none of my siblings or myself are pedophiles. we’re just mildly traumatised.
its never an excuse, but it could be what influenced his later thoughts and decisions. (hes still a piece od shit though)
The truly sickening part about this whole situation is that Chris Hansen and co. inadvertently made it so Onision can *never* be arrested. If I recall correctly, one of the victims had a laptop that she intended to send to the feds, but instead the guy running Hansen's TH-cam took it, making it inadmissible in court. Absolutely revolting.
Yes, that absolutely did happen
Aaah. Then Chris whatever is a monster just like onision.
Didn’t Chris separate from that guy? I can’t remember his name. Could be misremembering too
Yes that was a mess. Fortunately they still have some evidence via other girls but not much. Onision may know the laws better than me but I definitely know in Texas what he has done is considered sex trafficking. I also liked the lawyer who mentioned labor trafficking. Maybe they could nail him on something like that.
Specifically Nicotra made comments about meaning to copy the hard drive, which is intent to tamper and even if he didn't go through with it, his saying that means that evidence can't be accepted
I find it hilarious when people act like divorce is the worst thing that can happen to a child
It can be pretty traumatic. No excuse to become a child groomer though
@@Soulgarden__ You’re 100% right. I certainly don’t deny that it can be traumatic, but having parents who are technically together but hate each other can be just as traumatic. The assumption that people from “broken homes” are automatically more messed up is such a frustrating portrayal to see. For context my parents are divorced and in my personal experience I was better off after they separated.
@@anikagrace7530 Absolutely true. Once they're actually divorced, you are left with an unstable family, but not more. If they're not and they're not even thinking about it, you may live under a roof, that's burning 24/7 through your entire childhood. I know many people, that've lived through a hellhole of a household in school times, because their parents weren't consequent enough to just live apart or file a divorce and the pressure these people were put on every single day is unreal.
It's a pretty bad experience but it's not always the catalyst for a child turning evil. Like documentaries love to deep dive and just blame everything someone did on a divorce
@@anikagrace7530 This. Throughout my entire life, my parents have done nothing except fight and argue. From what my mother tells me, my father was physically abusive before I was born (and after--I still remember watching him shove my older sister against a wall when I was super young). He stopped at some point, but even after that, all I ever heard was screaming and arguing. I developed severe anxiety, I have a hard time forming relationships and socializing with people, and I can't bear conflict. They have stayed together all these years because of me. When I was a teenager, I desperately wished my parents would separate just so it would stop. I blamed myself for their pain because I was the reason they were staying in that environment. It would be painful for the family to split up, but I believe we would all be better off. They're exhausted and sick of it all, and so much resentment and mistrust has built up that it's irreparable.
My family is not truly "broken" in the way that most people would imagine (divorce, abusive parents (my father was abusive, but he put a stop to that years ago, especially after he stopped drinking), etc.). But there is a lot of pain, anger, and bitterness that has festered for over twenty years, and it is an environment that has negatively affected all of us, including me and my sister, who committed suicide in part because of it. A home doesn't necessarily have to be "broken" in the traditional sense for it to cause damage.
my issue: youtube didnt do anything about onision who was known to be a predator and abuse the DMCA system for years but they only reprimand him now because of advertiser dollars.
What’s up with social media platforms allowing and protecting pedophiles until it costs them money??
@@madisonm2167 capitalism bb
But then took away PewDiePie’s TH-cam premium show, but DIDNT take away Logan Paul’s show. The irony isn’t lost there.
@@RebelAngelForever logan paul definitely does deserve it but fuck pewdiepie too lol
Welcome to the entertainment industry
I feel like they were almost trying to justify onision's actions because his parents got divorced and he had a bad childhood. Like.. no. There's no excuse for child grooming.
Also, while parents separating can be upsetting for young children (or anyone of any age), it doesn’t mean their childhood was bad. It can depend on the circumstances of course, like if it’s to get away from potential danger, but lots of people I know have parents who are separated and their childhoods were fine. Whether they just split the time over both parents or they didn’t speak to one parent, they still had relatively good childhoods and just got used to how things were. None of them are groomers or serial killers or whatever. I hate this cliche of, they must have come from a “broken home” and that is why they are bad. It excuses their actions and puts the responsibility on those around them as opposed to the grown adult who chose to do bad things. It also seems kind of insulting to everyone else who experienced their parents getting a divorce, and managed not to be child groomers.
There is a difference between justifying and understanding. I feel like they're not justifying or excusing his actions, it's just interesting to see what events in one's childhood can lead to develop in such a way.
Any documentary about serial killers, for example, analyses the killer's childhood, but it doesn't mean that who produced the documentary believes that they shouldn't be in jail.
I haven't watched this specific one, and frankly don't plan on doing so, but from what I saw in this video it didn't seem like they were justifying his actions. It seemed like a pretty standard documentary format to me.
@@unclenought6385 this is very well put! Also, memento mori!
@@mowganashwey momento mori
@@biancanina1337 apologies in advance for the length, I didn’t know I felt this strongly about it:
I just feel that the way they seem to frame this (and many other documentaries are guilty of this) is: he was such a sweet boy from a broken home. It predisposes him to do terrible actions, and makes us more sympathetic. At the end of the day, it’s media; someone sat down in a room and decided the narrative they were going to do. They decided what information was both included and excluded.
Yes childhood massively affects who we grow up to be, that’s a given, but they manipulate the information in this documentary in such a way, that it seems to be excusing his behaviour rather than explaining it. The dad says “none of the children were the same after the divorce” which may very well be true but it opens the idea to “well if his parents never got divorced, maybe he wouldn’t be a groomer”, in my opinion. They also contradict themselves by having the stepmother, who presumably knew him after the divorce, say that he was still the sweet kid that his father describes. It makes for a clumsy and confusing narrative of “a kid who was sweet but then his parents got divorced, but then he was still a sweet kid”. So we as the audience can gather that he was always a sweet kid who grew up to be a pos groomer, and the divorce didn’t affect him that much; while the documentary is trying to imply that it did directly result in him becoming a groomer. It becomes confusing.
I can’t speak for what the household was like before the divorce or his dad felt that a separation would get himself and his children out of danger, but if that were the case; why not mention it? If the angle they are going for is “he came from a broken home, which is why turned out this way”, why not provide more evidence for this narrative? As opposed to what they have done which is to leave it as a thread for the audience.
As you say, looking into a person’s background can be very interesting and is done a lot with notorious criminals. I think that it fascinates us to compare our lives to theirs to try and figure out how close we ourselves are to committing the same despicable acts. But it has become a cliche of true crime, started I think by Truman Capote in his book In Cold Blood. The storyline of the poor sweet child ruined by a broken home and subsequently becomes a criminal is textbook. There are plenty of criminals who don’t have unhappy childhoods but still become despicable human beings.
I think they are really trying to do something here, but they are putting way too much credit on themselves. It is so clumsily done it almost feels like a fanfic equivalent to a documentary in my opinion.
JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE: Onision was married when he sent Shiloe that message.
That makes this even worse. What the fuck onion boy.
Wtf?Jesus Christ!Yt needs to kick his ass off this platform like yesteryear when they found out that!
Yes, he was! Über-creep...
Not even remotely important for this particular topic
@@emilyw1001 it just makes it worse
I love the "sweet and innocent kid" to humanize a villian. Like no shit, kids usually are. Doesn't mean they don't grow up to be monsters?
Exactly... and it's coming from his father as well like of course this man is going to say his son is super sweet and just doing it because the divorce made him sad or whatever. So ridiculous and downright irrelevant to the fact he's an abusive child grooming pos.
It's so unnecessary. Did everyone think 4 year old Onision acted the same as he does now? When documentaries do this it feels like they're trying to be like "into the mind of a killer..." like he's some kind of interesting genius that no one knew was actually evil. It kind of romanticizes the situation and is just there for dramatic effect
Villains need to be humanized so people know that “villains” are just regular people that they know.
@@StrawberryFeildsforNever that's true to some extent, but it's still unnecessary to include a part that's like "onision was just a little boy..." like d'angelo says in the video, it kind of takes away from the documentary.
also, sometimes villains can be completely unexpected and secretive about their behavior, and sometimes they're just straight up bad people that don't face consequences (like onision in this case) so there's no need to do an analysis of his 4-year-old mind
@@StrawberryFeildsforNever There's probably a better way to humanize 'villains'. The way they're doing it in the show is clumsy at best.
lol didn’t the documentary originally say “it wasn’t until Chris Hansen that the dialogue began to change” or whatever 😭 did they like change it after the backlash and pretend it never happened
I was going to say the same thing! They really edited the line by cutting in "these women" after like weeks of having it say "Chris Hansen" hahaha wooow
I was just thinking that! I knew I had heard that line completely different in a different video.
Right!?!? I just left a comment asking the same thing. They HAD to have edited it, right???
Same I just commented this! Glad I wasn't the only one who caught it
I thought D'Angelo might have edited it himself to kind of make it ~better~
No wonder D’Angelo is the only sane person these days, he was homeschooled
That's kinda too generalized, but .... you got a point!
Jarvis Johnson seems pretty sane scarce seems pretty sane Terry t.v. seems pretty sane
@@jadenbryant9283 I was...joking...
@@NoName-rb7mr sorry man
As a home schooler can confirm, we’re all smarter and more beautiful like D’Angelo 🤣
“He was such a sweet kid until his parents got divorced and now he abuses minors” uhhhh... did they stretch before performing those mental gymnastics? Pretty much every single person I know (myself included) has divorced parents and yet we’re not out here grooming children...
Divorce is probably a small factor in what makes Onision this way though... tbf.
I would like to say that my parents got divorced and I would also like to say that I decided to blame them getting divorced for me sending onision pictures in my underwear when I was 14 lmao
Same here. My parents got divorced by the time I was eight and it never made me want to groom kids.
Ikr. My mom has been divorced twice and it has never made me want to harm a child in any way. This whole documentary is a joke
💯
This documentary is basically like: “Nobody had any suspicions about this strange manchild until our lord and saviour Chris Hands said that something was a little fishy.”
Nope, it's not.
It makes Boomerkarens aware of Onision, because they would never cross into the TH-cam-Bubble. And this publicity made YT act. Not dramatubing on the platform for over a decade. Hansen used his influence for good
@@Obviouslyced At one point in this documentary they literally say, almost word for word, “Nobody thought anything was wrong with Greg until Chris Hansen got to TH-cam.” That makes “Boomerkarens” just think worse of TH-cam because they think “Those dumb TH-cam lids couldn’t even see this right in front of them?” That furthers the divide between generations and ageism between generations.
This false claim 1) erases years of people calling Greg out and 2) makes older generations think that everyone younger than them is done. There was no reason to frame it this way, it is a blatant lie, and it only spreads misinformation. Chris Hansen didn’t do everything wrong, but this documentary is not a positive.
Fishy.... All I can think of is fish sticks.... Jeezus, I'm hungry 🥲
@@kidkap4 i don't remember that phrase and it really does not actually delegitimize what the documentary accomplished. Onision was not known outside of the YT bubble before it aired. Just because people are selfimportant on here does not mean they own the story.
TH-cam has been and will be a bubble that has been misinterpreted by mainstream media before, because they don't fucking care and they don't have to.
What furthers the generational divide is thinking it is more important than it is and shaming people into not knowing the subculture of YT. It is a mute point you're making.
Nothing erases what the community has done, heck, the Documentary has TH-camrs in it and asked many to be a part of it. But they refused and many continued to make money off of the story, the victims and their hate against a documentary that made happen, what they all said they wanted to be done: deplatform the paedo.
It is quite sickening to see, tbh. And i've been watching this unfold for over a decade.
@@ObviouslycedThe initial statement made it seem like the TH-cam community as a whole was turning a blind eye to Onision's wrongdoings and that nobody here gave a shit until Chris Hansen came along - which is a blatant and completely needless lie. It has since been edited out, though.
Still, it's good that Onision was deplatformed, but if someone gives you a thousand dollars right after they punch you in the face, it still doesn't make it okay that they punched you in the face.
wow i love how they completely skip over how his audience was just a bunch of young girls, which he manipulated and took advantage of. they not “women”. they were literal children. i remember when i used to watch him at a REALLY young age. after i stopped watching him and continued to grow up, i realized just how bad he was. and it still took me years to realize how much of literal monster he was, no, still is. im grateful i wasnt affected by him as much as other kids were, seeing as how much he fueled their self harm and eating disorders.
Literally same, I was a kid n I loved him after watching a video and he said something nice about being big...idk If I’m remembering that right but yea....it’s crazy cuz we were all kids watching that dude, giving him views...this just doesn’t sit right with me. I’m glad I didn’t see him trashing black women though because I was already insecure with my hair, skin, race etc etc and sometimes still am...he’s such a sick fuck
@ i used his rating videos to trigger myself lmao
I was one of the lucky ones I guess. I just watched his "i'm a banana video" and thought it was funny and moved on. I didn't really look too much into him really
Same! He just talked shit and for some reason young me decided yeah that's deep. Then I saw the body shaming videos and I was like wait, this is wrong. I feel weird watching this like I'm a bad person for even watching it and so I stopped. I'm so glad my parents stressed the consequences of providing confidential information online at a young age or else who knows? I might have sent in a pic too
They did tho it's a big part of the documentary episode 2 goes alot into that.
why was it just like a shane dawson “documentary”
Oh god, yeah. Misinformation and profiting off of other people's problems while doing nothing to fix them, excusing bad behavior bc of a bad childhood... it checks all the boxes.
wait it kinda is
Because that's the platform the internet listens to, unfortunately. He didn't get as famous as he did by doing things "quality"
ngl Onision always gave me Shane Dawson vibes.. like really creepy and disturbing vibes
not me ab to comment this
Let me see if I understand this: D+ made an F- documentary.
Bars ✨😌
we might have to open up more of the alphabet for this one
Lmaooo
Underrated comment
Genius.
Fun fact, and I hate this for me: When I was 16 (7 years ago) I was a mad onision fan and was a member of his website. He made a video called something along the lines of "Onision Fans vs. Other TH-camr Fans" and he used selfies from the website without consent. My selfie was in it. .-. Looking back, it makes me feel SO gross how he took advantage of his young fans.
aw i'm so sorry :(( he's so disgusting.
I actually submitted my photo for the “Fat or Curvy” and he blatantly called me fat. I’ve literally had so much self confidence issues being called fat in front of literally all of his TH-cam viewers. I’m embarrassed to say I even held any respect for this trash bag of a person.
@@blackink2990 he's disgusting and wrong. I'm sorry you had to hear his trash opinion.
@@blackink2990 dude I'm so sorry
In what universe is ANYONE going to associate “D+” with discovery over Disney especially since they went with the whole plus thing. Bad naming choice
Omg cmon university!
To be fair, in no university is D+ a good grade anyway ;)
@@NEESHiMinaj it was autocorrect
Especially BET+
Because D+ is the grade their content gets HEYOOOOOOO
alternative title: D’angelo Wallace gets slapped by legal.
POV:your slapped by legal
LMAOO ✋🤣
greg
geg
Greg spotted
“He was so sweet and innocent until times got rough and his parents divorced” I and so many other people have gone through the same thing and worse and do you see us being literal monsters?? 😀😀😀
Exactly, that has nothing to do with him grooming literal children. Even if it did, that doesn't make what he did okay.
People are different.
@@tythompson5920 Someone's parents going through a divorce is an issue that can mess with children, but it won't turn then to child grooming. There is obviously more that caused it and not just "my parents got divorced so now I try to have sex with children" That's not an excuse for awful behaviour
I feel like it could be a factor that might've played a role in why he acted the way he did. It doesn't completely excuse it, just maybe one of the reasons why yk
Yeah, it’s not like he made a religion/cult or anything…oh wai-
Onision was relatively popular until he ended his friendship with Shane Dawson (waged a campaign against him), people started calling him out for being a creep online (minors posting revealing pictures for videos), and his content just not fitting in with the changing TH-cam. I think 2015-16 was when a larger audience caught on to him being predatory, abusive, and grooming minors. A lot of his earlier fans spread vitriol to his victims and buried Greg's involvement.
I am an old woman. We used to shit talk Greg on LiveJournal. People looked at his cult and stuff. He's been hated a very, very long time. 2015 may be when videos spring up though.
Yep I remember this. *Side note wow I’m old!
@@genno3714 he had a CULT??
@@kittikattt sisesca or something
@@genno3714 Yeah, online discourse on other platforms were way ahead of TH-cam. His issues became apparent to the general/casual viewers because the algorithm pushed videos entailing the abuse in the mid 2010s.
Anyone know if they CHANGED the line from “It wasn’t until Chris Hansen showed up” to “It wasn’t until women came forward” or was this just a different edit??
I was wondering the exact same thing! I feel like the way it sounds is that they changed it
From some creators that talked about it the line is most likely changed. From maybe 2 weeks ago people had said they are treating CH has a savior that helped everything
Wait that's what i was thinking
Yes. I just now rewatched Jaclyn Glenn's video and they did INDEED change it. She has the clip play around 6:20 in her first review.
They totally did. It's cut weird in that line and Jaclyn Glenn, Creepshow Art and a couple of others that watched it pre-released all had footage of the line mentioning Hansen
why is it literally put together like a Shane Dawson documentary
PLEASE
Clones
Not “literally.” Calm down 🙄🙄
When his “victims” first stated coming out they got hate bombed by his stans, that’s how he got so many victims in the first place was because nobody believed the first set of girls :|
This was like 2011 youtube, everyone was delusional.
Girls, not women
everyone is still delusional. also, whats in the Lords name is your channel banner-
👁👄👁
bruh SO many young girls were straight up bombarded with messages to unalive themselves it was a horrific time to be online
@@cadenceolivia6304 i..............yea its f-ing wierd lol
The biggest problem is those stans were young girls who were still under onisions thumb unfortunately
Soo... are we going to ignore Onision's Hitler thingy, as if he isn't in a ton of crap already.
Edit: wow this got a lot of likes.
I was baffled that he did that. How immature.
I made edgy Hitler jokes. . . as a teenager. Imagine doing that as a grown-ass man. 💀
he’s made too many nazi jokes to count
I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK
I was so shocked about that, tbh. I'm from Germany so like, I guess it makes sense (that gesture is forbidden here, along with "Mein Kampf" and the Nazi flag) but still! What the fuck. I mean, yeah he used the wrong arm but still. That he's willing to do that, on the internet, at an age where he should be able to comprehend the atrocities committed by Nazis, I- I'm out of words.
Not them hard cutting straight from the video of a victim recounting her abuse to the “I’m A Banana” video
sis i CACKLED
It's so jarring, I was speechless.
Quit it with the “not them” jokes when really IT IS ACTUALLY them doing it
@@sonicthehedgegod nah you really didn’t cackle calm down
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 you're so cool and epic bro
“he checked the laws”
that sentence alone made me go through the 5 stages of grief
D'angelo is the only homeschooled kid I've seen who doesnt show signs of being homeschooled. An enigma
@SophiaTheSassy they’re typically very socially challenged 💀
I honestly can't tell the difference, until people start talking about what school was like for them.
@@candiecanie274 lol i was never homeschooled and im still socially challenged 🥲
@SophiaTheSassy well homeschooled kids are usually weird... maybe is the lack of socialization, lack of exposure to different experiences and lack of interaction with diversified groups??
@@candiecanie274 yeah, the only exceptions I've seen were put into extra-curricular activities with peers.
omg the title LOL
Love your work .
OMG HEY PANCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
m y f a v o r i t e m e x i c a n r a i n c o a t
Aaay
Everybody be like:
"Omg hello"
"Omg my favorite mexican raincoat"
“I opened for Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber opened for me.”
HOLLLLLLD UP. WHAT
yes! she was super huge in canada. onision ruined that for her.
@@barnacleboy4487 such a shame! She was like a little Amy from Evanescence.
LITERALLY LIKE SHE COULDVE BEEN AN AMAZING POP STAR
i was in middle school when she was popular (in canada) and EVERYONE here adored her. i only watched onision because of shiloh and i found it weird she just stopped her music career but now as an adult i realized he held her back so much
She was an up and coming celebrity in Canada, and then Groomin' Onion ruined her career and abused the shit out of her. He weaponized his fanbase to chase her off the internet, too.
dangelos motto really went from
"welcome back to me talking about whatever i want" to "what are we about to do, right now" and i think its an upgrade.
Factssss
Shitty documentaries like this is why people don't take issues with the internet seriously. Onision is allowed to roam free because Chris Hanson and the Discovery Channel have made the whole situation with him a mockery. I honestly expected better from the Discovery Channel.
as a child who’s parents have been divorced, THAT DOESNT MAKE YOU A CHILD GR00MER
exactly wtf! I went through abuse and didn't automatically become a predator. a bad childhood is NEVER an excuse for being a fucking child groomer.
As a product of divorce, yeah. It’s no excuse.
True. My parents divorced when I was 4 and I don't even count that on the list of bad things that happened to me. If divorced parents make you a groomer, I should have commited genocide by now.
oh wait you were talking about how they were justifying onision being a groomer by the parents divorce nvm-
Ugh wtf? Was that actually his excuse? I have divorced parents and dont feel like grooming kids 🙄
I mentioned this on alizee’s video but the fact they say he’s like a cult leader and fail to mention he tried to start a cult before TH-cam just shows they didn’t care.
"His parents god divorced he was so sweet"
Okay? And? Many parents get divorced but somehow their kids turn out just fine? Like not every child that has divorced parents becomes a damn child groomer? It's almost as if they're justifying his actions with the worst, nonsensical excuse you could ever produce.
I’ve heard of people being abused and traumatized since a young age but they turn out to be the sweetest people ever and not terrible people like him.
@@luuuuux_ some of them don’t want to inflict their traumas onto others. It happens when a person gets therapy.
Not everyone loved Greg, he was criticized the moment he started making content. Not to mention he constantly made videos putting down anyone he could think of and would gaslight his fans when they felt he went too far. I remember when he made videos calling suicidal girls attention seekers and then went on to justify it by saying it didn't matter cause they weren't "really" depressed because they openly talked about it and that "everyone knew he was joking". I hate to admit it but hearing this constantly from his videos at such a young age lead to me thinking that if I wanted people to believe me and my mental issues that I needed to stay silent.
Oof, same. Was having suicidal thoughts, but felt like I was tricking myself into feeling that way and that I was being overdramatic.
Ended up in a psych ward...
Same with self harming kids. I remember watching him in 7th grade and witnesses and experiencing the harm he did to us confused and hurting girls who didn't know any better. Made it seem like anyone who self harmed did so for attention, he also promoted the whole "horizontal for attention, vertical for results" mantra that his fans would bully self harmers with.
Onision is directly responsible for exacerbating my self-harm, suicidal ideation, and eating disorder. And I stand by that.
@@duckielooloui he was the one who promoted that? I *still* see that around the internet. Fuck, that guy. I never even watched him and he still fucked up teenage me. Fuck. Him.
@@alkaidc9862 It was a thing online around the time but only on pretty unknown parts of the internet. He pretty much made the phrase "mainstream" more or less.
When i was WAY too young to be on the internet and watching Onision, he honestly was part of fueling my eating disorder that i strugged with entirely through middle school and still struggle with, and i constantly get comments on my body. I was TOO young to be watching him and it was not good. I never felt beautiful even when it shouldnt have mattered
It probably doesn’t mean much but you’re definitely not the only one and judging from your comment and how open you are about this to comfort other people who may have been in a similar situation shows be that you definitely are beautiful.
Damn I’m sorry, I hope you’re doing better now.
@@kurti.cy. Thank you 🖤, i felt sooo silly letting some dude on the internet effect me that much but its comforting to know that other people felt it. Means so much
@@kurti.cy. Im doing pretty good, way better than not eating 🖤🖤 means alot u care
I hope you’re doing a lot better too, I know how much painful that could be equating your worth with what people think about you and your beauty. You were and will always be beautiful, and I hope you never forget that. I hope that whatever issues you have left can be smoothened, and your journey safe and easy. Keep your head up, and God bless 🙏❤️
Really tired of Chris Hansen getting all the credit for "exposing" onision
Ya, everybody knew before he did anything. He just jumped on a bandwagon and took all the credit. And it's not like he added anything or helped in anyway. He's just a leech at this point that wants to profit off other peoples pain.
Chris Hansen was doing his damn job, leave the man be
@@sophiaa.4538 he was doing his damn job, leave him be
@@sophiaa.4538 right
why does onion boy literally look like Shane wtf
Because They’re the same breed of cringe
I couldn't tell them apart in like 2013
Omg I remember when they were friends. Both such cringe and sick people
Bruh I literally used to think they were both the same person lmaoo
@@duckielooloui Same 💀 I used to think they were the same person
Why does he even have a documentary to begin with
same reason murderers get docummentaries tbh. people are fascinated by them
because Chris Hansen wants money and doesnt give 2 shits about the victims
its like the media coverage on the reddit stocks; nerd on the internet fascinates all
Chris Hansen wanted a show. Hell that's why he went to Onision's house.
Chris Hansen is desperate for money, and manipulated and lied to the TH-cam public when he came on here (before making a documentary) about having FBI connections, as well as manipulating and lying to the victims of Greg (Onision) and Dahvie Vanity most of all. All for money. He's a greedy, terrible person.
I remember Onision had a blog thread asking young girls to post pictures of their bodies. This was not an “all of a sudden women came forward” situation.
they really think putting "he was the cutest boy" "all happy and smiley kid" will change our opinions on a child groomer
Right, like why are they humanising him? I can’t help but feel like they wouldn’t treat someone from different minority groups with this much compassion :/ And I’m for rehabilitation, but that takes years and should be done away from the online world when it’s cases like Onision or Shane Dawson in my humanly opinion
@@lostotter1956 don't dehumanize even the worst people. We need to be reminded that seemingly good people in the moment can turn out shitty. No one is trying to justify the actions, humanizing someone shouldn't make all their actions right.
I don't really think they were trying to justify his actions. A lot of criminal documentaries have this where they will tell the backstory of a person. I saw it more as a 'wtf happened to this person who was once a sweet kid.' But apparently putting this in the doc was just to make him look better? I don't take it that way. I mean maybe you feel sorry for him for a second and then you realize he's a piece of shit once you actually watch the whole thing...
If you watch the doc it's DEFINITELY not trying to make people like him
i would say d’angelo is an angel in disguise, but he’s obviously just an angel. there’s no need to say there is a disguise.
that sounds like a generic pick up line lol
Can't spell D'Angelo without angel 🙈
Y'all, D'Angelo is literally italian for "of the angels"
Disguise'Angelo
Lol that gave me an image of D'angelo turning into a biblically accurate angel. I love it thanks 😂. He does see everything after all
Does anyone remember when onision let his daughter fall out a window.
Say what?
Whatdidhesayyyy?!
This Nut has a Kid... Anyone call CPS? 😐
@@aqeelahbenjamin9214 I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have custody of his kids at the moment, I’m not 100% sure but to my knowledge they are in the care of Kai’s parents
WHAT
saying that he was popular until “these women wanted to talk to him” sounds a lot like victim blame... oh noooo this *poor man* was doing sooo fine but then these *women* had to show up and *ruin* him... you mean onision stayed out of sight before he was exposed as a literal child groomer? this documentary is so bad omg are they trying to make him a victim?
Exactly my thoughts, I was watching it with my partner and he didn't get the same "vibe" as me from this sentence (the victim blaming) but I think if you call yourself a journalist or you are making a documentary, it needs to be based on facts and not be manipulated for drama and clicks, that "documentary" is fing disgusting.
After the backlash, they actually edited the line. It used to be *”Chris Hansen”* instead of *”these woman.”* Basically giving him all the credit for Onision’s downfall. And I guess instead of taking out and replacing the line entirely, they thought *”these woman”* would be better lmao.
yeah, and including the fact that he was "such a cute little kid" like we don't need the emotional appeal for HIM!
that's the purpose of documentaries like this though, isn't it? to make people they are based on look like "the good guys" and innocent victims.
He said "until they wanted to talk," not "until they wanted to talk TO HIM." That line is about victims coming forward.
Is no one gonna talk about how onision just did the Hitler salute? It’s literally illegal in Germany and you’d get arrested here!! It is so disrespectful, even doing it as a JOKE!!!
An excellent example why American free speech isn’t nearly all it’s cracked up to be. Free speech is good in theory, but much less so in practice.
@@FuckThatYo Honestly, people get away with so many horrible things because of it. Blatant racism and discrimination is dismissed under the right conditions because it's "freedom of speech". Great on paper, very poor execution.
Wait he did the Hitler salute?
what is wrong with that guy and why isn’t he deplatformed?
Or maybe he is idk
@@reverland735 No, he has not yet been deplatformed by TH-cam. He still has a massive library of content which can be easily accessed by anyone who searches his name.
@@jackiewright7795 But the opposite applies as well- there are extremes of censorship too. Germany is actually a great example of this.
They don't teach schoolchildren about the holocaust. They don't teach them about Hitler. I'm fairly certain they don't even include America and Canada in their portrayal of WW2- meaning it wouldn't be a world war because it's missing a whole continent.
People who do dumb things like the Hitler salute deserve the social ramifications of their actions, but Germany has taken it a step too far and completely erased that history.
You should be taught not to do it, but you should still be taught about it. Anyone that then picks up those bad habits can suffer the consequences, but not even allowing a civil conversation on why Germany accepted Hitler (at first) isn't one of those things that you should be punished for. Debate with differing theologies can't be discouraged, because diversity of people inherently means diversity of belief. You can't have your cake and eat it too, is all I'm saying. You can only inform people and make them aware of the potential ramifications.
They broke up shilo’s story with justification on why he’s trash so when she jumped into “I was 17” it wouldn’t shock everyone as much. Disgusting
Dangelo is so humble, some people might say that he isnt humble, but for how great he is he isnt bragging at all
It’s like a slap in the face to realise you can never be as great as d’angelo
A slap in the face all of us will have to deal with
he knows he's hot but he doesn't make a deal of it he just refers to it accurately if it ever comes up
This documentary feels like it was made for parents who had heard their kids talking about Onision and wanted to know more without actually talking to their children
I get "let's terrify parents about what their kids are doing on the internet! Even though literally none of their children are involved with Onision in any way!" vibes for sure.
😂💀 for real tho
"his parents got divorced so that's why he grooms kids it's so sad 😢" all of my closest friends, both of my parent's parents, and multiple other people I know have divorced parents yet you don't see them sniffing children. People mature so using childhood as a crutch does not always work
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it. But D’angelo’s glasses have “2 million subscribers” energy.
Speak it into existence!
Act as if to manifest 😌
3:46 bullshit. The entire online community hated Onision after what he did to Shiloh and that was a DECADE AGO. Chris wasn't the guy who turned "superstar Gregory Jackson" into a villain. He was a villain way before Chris needed money.
The only “dialogue” that changed when Hansen showed up was “Greg should be in jail” to “Alright, Greg’s going to jail!” And then Hansen f***ed everything up, at which point the dialogue changed to “Greg’s going to get away with this... at least he got demonetized I guess”
Trueee, how did he manage to end up not going to jail tho??
@@soph1508 Because when Chris was given a hard piece of physical evidence by a victim (her laptop containing messages), he sat on it instead of turning it over to the FBI like he said he would. _Then_ he handed it over to a guy who was completely unqualified and he did something that rendered it completely useless to the investigation
@@kenziecullen4434 omg wow. How did you hear about this??
@@KP_Gem I heard about it through Creepshow Art who had been covering the case for awhile
love the chat lmfao "this doc can drink piss"
LMAOOO I just noticed that xD
And those people talking about Strange Aeons
Did they change it?! At first that guy said "it wasn't til Chris Hansen" now they dubbed it "It wasn't until the girls came forward"? Am I wrong?
You are 100% right.
I noticed that too!
You’re right
Mandela effect?
I ALSO NOTICED THAT
Onision is creepy AF. And whether the documentary sucks or not, it IS a big message that needs to be put out there in the world to help girls avoid ending up being a victim to any of these online groomers.
Imagine making a documentary so bad that Shane Dawson’s documentary’s look like they aged well
"It wasn't until these women wanted to talk that the overall dialogue started to change" did they change that line from the backlash??? I swear it used to be "it wasn't until Chris Hansen came along"
Yes. They did seem to change it. It 100% was Chris Hansen before.
Yeah they changed it. Good for them tbh. Better than ignoring criticism
I thought the same thing! I can’t believe they freaking changed it omg! Did they seriously think no one would notice??? Are they stupid???? Well... that’s a dumb question, of course they are... but Jeasus
I think the worst part is about the banana is that kids today still listen to it, and they don’t know he’s back story, it’s just **heebie-jeebies**
Onision actually did used to be popular tho and it sucked because he would make fun of the mentally ill and self harmers and he would rate girls 1 to 10 and he would be antifeminist and his videos would make me cry and they used to be super popular and supported. Im so glad the internet has changed.
Me too girl🙌
like i remember i used to love him when i was 14. i even sent in a picture and i’m so ashamed. i’m so glad everyone is opening up their eyes about him.. i’m so happy
Crazy that The Right Opinion did such a better job on his Onision documentary then the Discovery Channel
Oops... commented before finishing the video, didn’t realize you mentioned TRO and J Aubrey 👀 both their videos are excellent though, I hope more people go to watch them
@@dimitritzamaras8398 I did the same thing.
Crazy? Nah. TROs a smart chap. He knows his shit.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access you’re totally right! I love his videos :)
" 'D'angelo seems like that cool dude everyone is friends with in high school' Absolutely true also I was home schooled" PLSSSSS
this "documentery" is more disgusting than shanes mockumemteries, truly.
It's almost like D+ is pulling a Shane Dawson "documentary".
I’m sorry, but the “I’m a banannnna” “oh god why” was just perfect 😭
D’angelo not being scared to call anybody out is my favorite thing
Last time I was this early Jeffre star was in a "dark place"
😄
😂😂😂😂
Honey, Jeffree Star IS a dark place
This is like my 10th D'Angelo video in two days. I don't even care about TH-cam drama, I just love the way this kid explains things.
Props to you, D
Killin it 🤙
The victims didn’t give permission. They didn’t want to be involved
Did they not realize that he was being called out for freaking YEARS for being gross toward underage girls?????
2:23 D'Angelo's reaction at the I am a Banana video is a huge mood for me
D'Angelo is the only person in the world that is cooler than me
who said you were cool?
@@Choppedupchris good point you got me there
i think u r very cool,,,
Who is you
yeah that's the spirit 😎
I hate the "troubled childhood" argument. Literally. Every. Single. Person. has had something bad happen at some point in their life.
I mean, yes... but not everyone has been through something traumatic. And each person can experience things differently, like what might scar one person another is totally fine with.
it is NOT,however, an excuse for committing violent and heinous crimes!
wow! actually... going through something traumatic does not *make* you a pedophile and is not an excuse for grooming children
With peace & love, Shiloh saying she started to become interested in Onision from his “I’m a banana video” and then showing a clip from it absolutely SENT ME 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The idea that women coming forward tarnished Onision's reputation is scarily incorrect. Onision based a fandom on making his young audience desensitized, he hyped his viewers up as being smarter and more righteous than everyone else for "hearing the truth" from him. THAT'S the scary part!! Because his fandom became one that cherished his truth, and the intelligence he convinced them they had- They cherished it over proof that he was doing shitty things. That's why he's gone so long unchecked, and why so many of his victims have continued to go unheard.
A message for everyone sicko in the universe: I don’t care HOW messed up your childhood was that does not give you an get out of jail free card! And to harm anyone
I'll be completely honest, when they cut to the "I'm a banana" video, I laughed. Not because of the video but the way it was cut was perfect for comedy.
They have this deep dramatic music and then the victim mentions the video, the music cuts out and it smash cuts to the video. It was so careless.
Most would overlay the video without its audio to let the victim continue or not even show the video.
Onion looks like the human embodiment of gas station, greasy, slightly mouldy ham.
the fact he's only been demonetized on youtube and not simply removed entirely is ridiculous. He shouldn't be on the internet AT ALL. i hope his victims get some genuine justice.
They were literally like “let’s do a documentary about polar bears” and only talked about the polar bear for 10 minutes
I much prefer The Right Opinion’s videos on Onision than this “documentary.” At least he takes it seriously and doesn’t make a mockery of the issue.
I never used to know the difference between Onision and Shane Dawson and I think that speaks volumes
For YEARS I didn’t know the difference between him and Shane Dawson. Honestly wish I didn’t know the difference now
From what I seen I think onision actually harmed somebody physically I don't remember everything but I think that's what I heard
@@vintagevegas9067 verbal, mental, and emotional abuse may not leave physical scars but are just as much, if not more, traumatic than physical abuse. I’ve endured it all and yes, I have scars from the physical trauma, but am on medication and in therapy to help cope with the other abuse which they finally diagnosed as having ptsd. The shitty part about it is that physical abuse is easier to prosecute in court - there’s rarely a case won in regards to any kind of psychological abuse.
@@i.am.heather oh yeah of course I wasn't trying to compare how much better it was no just giving a example so sorry what happend are you doing better
There's no difference
D’angelo is like that person you wanna keep a hidden gem, but at the same time you love watching them grow
Seriously, something needs to be done about all these child groomers running around now because they think "if I get caught, at least I'll have other fans to carry me though." no they need to be taken off before they can hurt more ppl.
The fact that D'Angelo was homeschooled explains a lot ngl
About the banana video: “this should’ve been all the warning we needed” LMAOO
D’Angelo doing a video on the shady shit Chris Hansen has been accused of on TH-cam and Twitter would be SO INTENSE and quite the source heavy video. Id be interested to see what else he could find too, since he’s so detailed and in depth with his research.
The gesture Greg makes at 7:17 is literally illegal in Germany btw, you can get fined for it if someone sees/reports it...
And gets the press on your ass pretty quickly
@@fabiannmessina ok?..
Evelyn Birchvalley why? In what sorta situations are you in where doing the Hitler salute is an every day activity?
Evelyn Birchvalley how is just throwing up the hitler salute a joke, what’s the punch line? What are you satirizing? I am all for pushing the boundaries of humor but it has to have a well crafted set up and punchline to make it work, what is the “joke” of the hitler salute?
@@fabiannmessina i’m honestly not surprised that you’re a child playing horse games for fun- but when it comes to real life and actually knowing the history behind the Hitler salute, i’m sure that you’ll be embarrassed of yourself one of these days.
It was like Shane Dawson had made the documentary, but he was able to get more information and resources. But they still missed stuff concerning (at the time) Lainey, like their kids and them taking a break because he "cheated" on her with Billie. Does anyone else remember that or is it just me?
I remember and I was still young so i didn't even understand what I was watching. And I didn't even know what polyamory was. But I still felt weird watching those videos and felt like it was stuff that shouldn't have been said on the internet.
Onisions husbands name is Kai. He uses he/him pronouns and is seemingly complicit or possibly an accessory to the abuse. Not excusing him they’re both gross but plz don’t deadname ppl.
@@virginiabrennan2314 I wasn't trying to deadname him, I was just making the point that at the time of Billie he was Lainey. I realise now he is Kai.
@@sunincancer1807 you could have just said kai instead of using his deadname and you also used her instead of him. I’m not tryna be a dick to you I’m just tryna make sure ppl know.
@@virginiabrennan2314 at the end of the day I know what I meant and I was referring in the past to when Kai was lainey and lainey was with Billie.
I stayed at a hotel recently and there were three things I noticed since I am an ID/Food channel fan:
1) Discovery+ ads were running RAMPANT
2) Since they were streaming to Discovery+, most of the channels I liked were just not running (uncoincidentally I think)
3) They would NOT stop advertising this documentary
Twitch always says “Hi TH-cam” but does anyone here ever say “Hi Twitch”?
Not unless you're intentionally making something controversial that you think people will react to, I guess? Or you're talking to someone named Twitch
@@sarahgent2674 lol she’s just kidding bro, chill.
Shoutout to that one person that said "D'Angelo+" because let's be real, we'd all watch that
Chris Hansen’s career ended after that horrendous Jeffree Starr interview
I like the fact that the Twitch chat was Alerting everyone with Triger warnings just in case.Just gives me a good feeling about the fanbase