@@AntiquityforAll He really is. I think generals like Hamilcar Barca and King Leonidas I rival him in terms of bravery but the speeches Xenophon gave are some of the best ever given.
Not only is it a mystery why we haven't gotten a film about the "ten thousand" but pretty much non of the popular and big history channels here on youtube has even made a video on it. The story is one of the greatest military adventure and feats in all of history, it has everything that makes a great story; drama, danger, deceit, adventure, betrayal, survival, desperation, hope, redemption and revenge.
Wow, I'm a Kurd, our ancestors fought a great war with Xenophon's army in 400 BC, 2400 years ago, to protect their lands. The 5th section of Xenophon's work called Anabasis is very important for us Kurds. I was born in 1990 in a village where Xenophon's army passed through.
I have been seriously into the study of ancient military history for around fifty years now. I watch and rewatch documentaries on TH-cam every evening. I am always looking for the best channels. And I do believe that I have just found an exceptional one. Thank you my new friends. I will be here.
I couldn't agree more, the Anabasis would make for an incredible movie, or even better, a series. I would say the same about the Sicilian Expedition by Athens. That one has a tragic ending though. Great video, I loved it!!
There was talk of one in development at a major studio, but I guess it’s in development hell because this was like 15 years ago. The Falcon Of Sparta novel would make for a great basis as it draws heavily from Xenophon’s account.
The problem is that there are no important female roles in this story. So no modern producer would make it into a movie or series. There is no love story and no psychopathic fighting girl warrior thing.
@@jarlnils435 I love how broadly understood these societal elements are now. A world that has decided to embrace absurdity, deserves common understanding of that farcicalness ...and with that widespread mockery
@@jarlnils435, if a Holywood movie was made and successful about two gay cowboys, or so many war movies without much of a female character, it shouldn't be a problem.
@@jarlnils435 There are plenty of interesting women in history, but it does not suit the modern bad bitch sensibilities. There was one noblewoman in France that had her husband wrongly executed(someone else wanted his lands) she ended up being a pirate supported by the English, she was the dread of french vessels on the English Channel. Boudica is another, Catherine the great, that one widow of Cili that ended up becoming a major player in politics in the HRE and did many cool things besides. Most of these are feminine, married and traditional, and that does not fit the bad bitch narrative. Like the idea of shield maidens among Vikings, this idea of some female warrior unit is absurd, like the movie "woman king" those actual warrior women were absolutely destroyed by average french soldiers in no time with little to no resistance. Irony is the "evil white colonizer" fought the "brave strong independent woman warriors" to end slavery 😂
Your readings in ancient languages really makes you stand out from other history channels. I hope more people like me manage to stumble upon your channel because its convinced me to watch the rest of your content.
Then Theopompus, an Athenian, said: “Phalinus, at this moment, as you see for yourself, we have no other possession save arms and valour. Now if we keep our arms, we imagine that we can make use of our valour also, but if we give them up, that we shall likewise be deprived of our lives. Do not suppose, therefore, that we shall give up to you the only possessions that we have; rather, with these we shall do battle against you for your possessions as well.”.. I love this book. It was part of my school education.
Love hearing those passages in ancient greek, it really adds to this amazing story to hear the words that Xenophon wrote down. Thank you for this video!
Excellent sound track ... thanks for the comment. Didn't know about but loved Warriors. New York was such a mess during those years. Nobody went there to visit. I live in Paris France... which looks worse than 1980's NY. Better stay away from Paris. Don't come for the Olympics in 2024. They expect terrorisme. They will open the Games on boats on the Seine river : easier to control and deal with our local Barbarians... 😂
Just two minor points. The army of Cyrus had to be much bigger than 15K, there were approx 13K Greek soldiers --10,700 hoplites, 1,600 Peltasts, 200 archers, 500 lightly armed soldiers for a total of 13K. Cyrus would have had to bring many more soldiers of his own satrapy, and pickup more non-greek mercenaries on the march from Sardis to Cunaxa. I know they wild exaggerate the numbers at ancient battles, but surely Cyrus was leading more than 15K total. Also after the arrest of Klearchos and the other Greek high command, the army voted a number of generals to lead them, including Xenophon. Xenophon twice refused sole command at Harmene (Sinope) in Sept 400 BCE after twice receiving bad omens during sacrifice. The army then accepts Cheirisophos, a Spartan, who dies from medicine taken for a fever and the army accepts Neon, an Asinean. There are always a number of generals, and Xenophon writing in 3rd person does seem to suggest he is the general the army listens to for the best course to take and then blames him if others' jealousy decries him. The Landmark Xenophon's Anabasis, Pantheon Books has more detail. 7 books, appendix A-W, translator notes, ancient sources, glossary, figure credits, index, reference maps.
@@ziggurat-builder8755 The attempted social engineering by Hollywood is disgusting. Many a recent movie, ive just turned off when the quota POCs are parachuted in.
Just found this channel, love it! Also, awesome job with the Ancient Greek readings, very good and natural sounding. Also, this story is so epic, a movie could literally just show it exactly as written and it would be amazing, there's not even any need to exaggerate.
I just came from the audiobook "sparta- fear the sons of sparta" and the plottwists of the deaths of cyrus and clearchus completely caught me off guard. What a crazy story. Why is there no movie about this.
@@mishkosimonovski23 ΝΑΙ ΕΜΑΘΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΣΛΑΒΟ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΕ. ΠΕΣ ΜΑΣ ΤΙ ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΤΟ ΟΝΟΜΑ ΤΟΥ ΣΤΗΝ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΣΟΥ ΟΠΩΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΟΝΟΜΑ ΤΟΥ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ. ΦΙΛ-ΙΠΠΟΣ Φιλος των Ιππων. ΑΛΕΞ-ΑΝΔΡΟΣ, προστάτης των ανδρών. Ξύπνα απο την ψευτοιστορία που σου πούλησαν, προσγειώσου στην πραγματικότα, μην προσπαθείς να κλέψεις ιστορία άλλου έθνους και μάθε να αγαπάς την ιστορία του λαού σου, όσο ταπεινή και αν είναι αυτή ! Θα μπορούσα να συνεχίσω απ' αόριστο να παραθέτω παραδείγμα όπως τα παραπάνω. Για παράδειγμα, η μάνα του Αλέξανδρου, η Ολυμπιάδα, τον δάσκαλο του στην ΜΙΕΖΑ κλπ κλπ κλπ.
@@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos Ok....but tell me what did you made in the last 1000 years, any philosophers, any inventions, any culture? Basically you are the poorest country in EU, in debts for generations, lost wars and territory to Turkey..... but sure Slavs are savages.
Don't criticism your way of story telling in the video. I found it really jarring that you did this. I really enjoyed the parts you crisised your self on. It was really cool hearing the old tougue
I read about Xenophon when I was a young boy at primary school in the late Sixties, in a book called The Exploits of Xenophon, written by Geoffrey Household. A marvellous read and I've loved this epic adventure story ever since, more so because it's true. Thanks for making this video, it really does need the big screen treatment.
Your pronunciation is amazing.... Seriously...ut demonstates the amount of effort and skills you ve put to this assignment Congratiulations and best greetings from Kalamata. May Zeus thef ather of all gods known to humanity bless you . Zeus Akhbar
The only feat comparable to the Retreat of the Ten Thousand is the Retreat of the Czechoslovak Legions across Russia during the immediate aftermath of the Russian Revolution. Both deserved, not a mere film, but a well-produced and well-documented miniseries.
Modern estimates for Cyrus’ army don’t make sense unless we’re also to believe that there weren’t really at least 10.000 Greek mercenaries fighting for Cyrus. There’s no way the Greeks outnumbered the non Greeks under Cyrus’ command.
modern historians have a contrarian bias. no one notices and gives grant money to a historian who acknowledges the old sources being correct. only "new takes" get money.
May the gods bless you for making these videos! Love your channel and another good bio video of one of antiquities greats! A movie or tv series of this would be amazing. I read “The Falcon of Sparta” by Conn Iggulden a few years back and have been praying for a movie to be made since. Highly recommend the book to anyone who is interested.
Super voice, and great to hear how the Greek would have sounded. PS: next time, higlight/underline each word of the Greek, so we can try to follow. I've just subscribed .
Theatre itself is Greek, yuppp!, I read that there isn't one single thing in today's world, not anything that we can think of that the Greeks didn't touch on, and we have only one percent, if that, of what they left to the world... Thank you for this Great rendering of Anabasis
A film adaptation of the Anabasis to adapt, but it would have to be directed by Robert Eggers. Nobody else in Hollywood can be trusted to do it justice.
Every nation has the right of self-determination, whether their history goes back to Antiquity or not. The whole world should support the Kurds and every other nation fighting for their freedom.
I love history and am a huge fan of historical fiction. One of the best historical fictions I've ever read was by Michael Curtis Ford called The Ten Thousand.
Very nice try on reading the Greek text, however the "ει" and "οι" are diphthongs and are pronounced as a single letter "ee" and not as two letters "ae-ee" or "o-ee". Also, "Ξενοφών" is not pronounced "Zenophon" but "Xenophon" with an X and the accent tone is on the "on" and not the "Ze". These, among others, are common mistakes of the Erasmian accent used in the West, trying to pronounce the Greek words with Latin characters. One objection, involves the arbitrary tendency of modern historians to downplay the numbers mentioned in ancient sources, just because they seem too large. The Greeks could count, so if they say they were 13 000, it is very unlikely that the entire army of Cyrus was only 15 000. As far as the 1 200 000 troops of the other side, although it seems to be a very large number, one should realize that the Persian empire spanned from Turkey and Egypt, all the way to Afghanistan, bordering India and controlled over 80 million people at the time. The video is an excellent work regarding the two historical books of Xenophon: "Κύρου Ανάβασις" (Rise of Cyrus) and "Η Κάθοδος των Μυρίων" (The Descent of the Myriad i.e. 10 000).
Great stuff. Yes, no movie of this trek is a shame. Maybe Ridley Scott can do it. David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia) would have been a good choice; I suppose a Turkish director and cast would be reasonable as the trip is mostly through modern Turkey but they probably don't want to do anything that praises Greeks.
In fact Xenophon took the hoplite's shield which was much heavier than the one of the cavalry, but he was still wearing the cavalry thorax, which was much heavier than the hoplite's one. This was exhausting him, sth that was understandable by the soldiers who reacted like that, in favor of Xenophon. 47 yrs passed since I've read it, but i think there were elected other generals too. Nice effort to give us the ancient Greek pronounciation! Although it's heard like finnish to me... Ancient Greeks were using long and short vocals and they pronounced them (sth difficult to do, even if U R a Greek like me, since some vocals (α, ι, υ) were sometimes short and sometimes long... a mess) and they were using accents (like the French do; although writing them is from the Hellenistic Era). So, may be they were heard like the Italians... The name Περικλ~ης (sorry, this keyboard has limited capabilities) was heard like Perile^es.
Xenophobe and Xenophone are two different things. "Phobe" means fear, "Phone" means voice, so Xenophone means "Foreign Voice" if you want the entire etymology of the name. And I just realized that the word "phone" is the greek word for voice.
I bet Xenophon didn't get on with Aristotle because he was very much a man of action who experienced the realities of the world. Aristotle must have just seemed like an especially egotistical aristocrat who appropriated Socrates.
It's certainly a good tale. He starts in Athens has to go to Sparter on thier side because of sacrilegious accusation. Possibly beds the Queen of Sparter. Then gone to Persians then back to Athens leaving the fleet in the control of a helmsman or so. Then getting bumped off by the Spartan winners of the Peloponnese War. 4 Sides in a war the cameilion
Bro how much money was offered to the mercenaries? Sorry if you mentioned it & I missed it but when you said Cyrus kept offering more theres no actual numbers & im dying to know
The use of the word “ανάχωση” is inaccurate. You must mean the Ανάβαση of Cyrus Jr (= Anábasis, 401 BCE) or the Επιστροφή (= Return) of the Mýrii (= 10000, which has signaled the actual beginning of the Hellenistic Era: 399 BCE). Because Hellenism does not begin with Alexander's death, and does not end with Cleopatra's death (the conventional span: 323-31 BCE). Hellenistic Era, or Hellenismus: 399 BCE (Return of the Ten Thousand from Iran) - 224 CE (Fall of the Arsacid Dynasty in Iran). Of course, Hellenismus differs from the generic use of the “#Hellenes” national designation: 776 BCE (“1st” Olympics) - 415 CE (Fall of the last non-Roman state with a Greek presence: the Kardamaka Dynasty of Ujjain, Indoscythian Kingdom).
I wouldn't say that he is the greatest general before Alexander. Rathe, it highlights the genius of the greeks. After losing their generals to Persian betrayal, they didn't shrink in the absence of leadership but rallied and elected their own men.
Thanks for all these videos I watched during this past days, thanks for your interest for Antiquity, I like this period in history very much! დრილები, it is a georgian word/alphabet. But I dont know what it means, maybe name of the local tribe or place. Anyway, Georgian language is as old as Greek one, and it is more historically correct to say "Ancient Georgian kingdoms" Not "modern Georgian territory". Georgians always lived there, they are native people and had at that time 2 Georgian kingdoms, Colchis and Kartlis/Iberia. This two Georgian kingdoms were united sometimes there and here during the history, but final unification happened in middle ages, under king David. ქართველი ხალხი/georgian people, საქართველო/Georgia in georgian language. Because when you say "modern Georgian territory" It sounds like it wasn't before, like we say modern Turkey, as Turks-Seljuks migrated into predominantly Greek speaking lands and tok it. Georgians on the other hand, always been there. Ancient nation, with ancient history, cultur and language. You must know story about Argonauts, Jason and golden fleece, from Greek mythology? Where do you think it was? Or story about Prometheus, again from Greek mythology, who stole fire from Guds and gave it to people, where do think he was punnished? Im just saying, even though Georgia is ancient, with ancient culture, traditions, with one of the oldest languages in the world, which by the way doesn't belong to any language tree, it is language on its own, own tree of ქართველური ენა/georgian languages, this country is still very much under rated and almost forgotten by most. That is probably why you dont know about it, that is why most do not know about it. Just makes me said..
I admit, I don't know nearly as much as I'd like about Georgian history so this comment is very much appreciated. I have in fact been to Tbilisi and to this day I think Georgia is one of the best places I've been to. Your language is beautiful, and I have to admit the alphabet (though I can't read it) is the most beautiful one in existence! I will certainly be exploring your history more, thank you!
I recommended reading this chinese translated book called Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece it’s a historical fiction about how those 10000 mercenaries escape and found a nation that conquers rome,carthage,Persia and the greeks very fun
Now that you mention it, 10,000 would have been a great sequel to 300. Even the title totally fits as a continuation of the series. 300 300: Rise of an Empire 10,000
From lycurgus the lawmaker 800 bc up until 480 battle of thermopylae, sparta was stong. Before the persian attack spartans didnt like to live sparta and fight far away, other greek cities mocked them about that. When they started mercenary expeditions even exiled former kings its went kinda downhill, the cyrus ascend was a failure
@@kraanz come on :) it was very rough to the ears of a Greek like myself but at least they did try to differentiate. All these years I haven’t seen this channel trying to be pretentious so I guess it was an unfortunate effort:)
@@WhizzKid2012it was rough for you because it didn’t sound like modern Greek. Well, Ancient Greek didn’t sound like modern Greek, we know that for a fact. There are several theories on how Ancient Greek sounded, and historians/linguists are converging on a consensus. His way of reading it is certainly closer to the Ancient Greek sound than how you and I read it using the modern Greek pronunciation.
Major Assyrian cities of Kalhu/Nimrud and Nineveh. When the Assyrian empire dramatically and suddenly collapsed ( civil war and revolt by vassals )the cities were essentially abandoned or ignored by those that remained. Nineveh had somewhat of a rebirth centuries after Xenophon passed but never close to its former glory
The best book I’ve ever read. Xenophon is a man among men
The greatest general and philosopher to ever walk the earth
- Xenophon
@@AntiquityforAll He really is. I think generals like Hamilcar Barca and King Leonidas I rival him in terms of bravery but the speeches Xenophon gave are some of the best ever given.
@@bigt1013 Don't forget ALEXANDER THE GREATEST OF ALL! ! !
Heil HELLAS aka GREECE!
I carry it with me everywhere I go. "θάλαττα, θάλαττα!"
What book?
Not only is it a mystery why we haven't gotten a film about the "ten thousand" but pretty much non of the popular and big history channels here on youtube has even made a video on it. The story is one of the greatest military adventure and feats in all of history, it has everything that makes a great story; drama, danger, deceit, adventure, betrayal, survival, desperation, hope, redemption and revenge.
No aliens or Nazis involved, so the "History" Channel wouldn't be interested.
Because people hate those type of movies, they do bad like oliver stones Alexander's and cost so much to make. People want black cleopatra
Oh yeah, film it in the middle east, northern iraq and Syria, no danger there…
The overall saga of The Anabasis has too many lulls in it to be told in one movie.
Fun fact The Warriors is based on it!
Wow, I'm a Kurd, our ancestors fought a great war with Xenophon's army in 400 BC, 2400 years ago, to protect their lands. The 5th section of Xenophon's work called Anabasis is very important for us Kurds. I was born in 1990 in a village where Xenophon's army passed through.
Much respect to all of the Iranian peoples. The empire and its culture are a legacy that belongs to all of its heirs, not only modern Iran.
i am greek and i read the anavasis when i was 13 years old! it was epic! i remember the Karduchs and their resistance!
Greetings from Greece!
@@petros311 Me too... As soon as I got the book given to me from the school, I read it the same evening.
Still, I think that it could be possible to your ancestors to be allies (as proposed to them) like the Armenians did. Fighting wasn't necessary...
I have been seriously into the study of ancient military history for around fifty years now. I watch and rewatch documentaries on TH-cam every evening.
I am always looking for the best channels.
And I do believe that I have just found an exceptional one.
Thank you my new friends.
I will be here.
This is very much appreciated, thank you so much 🙏
Same, this is extraordinary, and it don't dumb sheeeyit dahn.
I couldn't agree more, the Anabasis would make for an incredible movie, or even better, a series. I would say the same about the Sicilian Expedition by Athens. That one has a tragic ending though.
Great video, I loved it!!
There was talk of one in development at a major studio, but I guess it’s in development hell because this was like 15 years ago. The Falcon Of Sparta novel would make for a great basis as it draws heavily from Xenophon’s account.
The problem is that there are no important female roles in this story. So no modern producer would make it into a movie or series. There is no love story and no psychopathic fighting girl warrior thing.
@@jarlnils435
I love how broadly understood these societal elements are now. A world that has decided to embrace absurdity, deserves common understanding of that farcicalness ...and with that widespread mockery
@@jarlnils435, if a Holywood movie was made and successful about two gay cowboys, or so many war movies without much of a female character, it shouldn't be a problem.
@@jarlnils435 There are plenty of interesting women in history, but it does not suit the modern bad bitch sensibilities. There was one noblewoman in France that had her husband wrongly executed(someone else wanted his lands) she ended up being a pirate supported by the English, she was the dread of french vessels on the English Channel. Boudica is another, Catherine the great, that one widow of Cili that ended up becoming a major player in politics in the HRE and did many cool things besides. Most of these are feminine, married and traditional, and that does not fit the bad bitch narrative. Like the idea of shield maidens among Vikings, this idea of some female warrior unit is absurd, like the movie "woman king" those actual warrior women were absolutely destroyed by average french soldiers in no time with little to no resistance. Irony is the "evil white colonizer" fought the "brave strong independent woman warriors" to end slavery 😂
Your readings in ancient languages really makes you stand out from other history channels. I hope more people like me manage to stumble upon your channel because its convinced me to watch the rest of your content.
Appreciate that! I always try to use the original texts in research and it’s good practice to read them aloud too - here’s hoping I improve 🤞
Then Theopompus, an Athenian, said: “Phalinus, at this moment, as you see for yourself, we have no other possession save arms and valour. Now if we keep our arms, we imagine that we can make use of our valour also, but if we give them up, that we shall likewise be deprived of our lives. Do not suppose, therefore, that we shall give up to you the only possessions that we have; rather, with these we shall do battle against you for your possessions as well.”.. I love this book. It was part of my school education.
And Phalinus' reply:
Ἀλλὰ φιλοσόφῳ μὲν ἔοικας, ὦ νεανίσκε, καὶ λέγεις
οὐκ ἀχάριστα· ἴσθι μέντοι ἀνόητος ὤν, εἰ οἴει τὴν ὑμετέραν
ἀρετὴν περιγενέσθαι ἂν τῆς βασιλέως δυνάμεως.
Love hearing those passages in ancient greek, it really adds to this amazing story to hear the words that Xenophon wrote down. Thank you for this video!
The movie "The Warriors" was based on this story. A New York gang that has to fight their way back to their turf. Great movie.
Great movie! I still think we’re long overdue a modern sword and sandal of the original
He literally says that within the first minute of the video.
you a genius
The Novel Warriors by Sol Yurrick was based on the legend which in turn inspired the film.
Excellent sound track ... thanks for the comment. Didn't know about but loved Warriors.
New York was such a mess during those years. Nobody went there to visit. I live in Paris France... which looks worse than 1980's NY. Better stay away from Paris. Don't come for the Olympics in 2024. They expect terrorisme. They will open the Games on boats on the Seine river : easier to control and deal with our local Barbarians... 😂
Just two minor points. The army of Cyrus had to be much bigger than 15K, there were approx 13K Greek soldiers --10,700 hoplites, 1,600 Peltasts, 200 archers, 500 lightly armed soldiers for a total of 13K. Cyrus would have had to bring many more soldiers of his own satrapy, and pickup more non-greek mercenaries on the march from Sardis to Cunaxa. I know they wild exaggerate the numbers at ancient battles, but surely Cyrus was leading more than 15K total.
Also after the arrest of Klearchos and the other Greek high command, the army voted a number of generals to lead them, including Xenophon. Xenophon twice refused sole command at Harmene (Sinope) in Sept 400 BCE after twice receiving bad omens during sacrifice. The army then accepts Cheirisophos, a Spartan, who dies from medicine taken for a fever and the army accepts Neon, an Asinean. There are always a number of generals, and Xenophon writing in 3rd person does seem to suggest he is the general the army listens to for the best course to take and then blames him if others' jealousy decries him.
The Landmark Xenophon's Anabasis, Pantheon Books has more detail. 7 books, appendix A-W, translator notes, ancient sources, glossary, figure credits, index, reference maps.
ΣΟΣΤΑ ΕΥΓΕ ΚΕ ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΟ
Yes very helpful.@@fotiosgeorgiadis7697
Seeing how the movie industry is treating history, its better they don't make a movie out Anabasis.
True, they will make Xenophon a woman and his best warriors will be black Amazons.
Very true
@@ziggurat-builder8755 The attempted social engineering by Hollywood is disgusting. Many a recent movie, ive just turned off when the quota POCs are parachuted in.
For sure.
We could just expect the worst.
The "300" movie gives us an idea.
yeah youre wright ! childeren now areddy thingking the spartans fought with a naked torso; The 300 spartans was a disaster of a movie hystoricly !
Just found this channel, love it! Also, awesome job with the Ancient Greek readings, very good and natural sounding. Also, this story is so epic, a movie could literally just show it exactly as written and it would be amazing, there's not even any need to exaggerate.
I just came from the audiobook "sparta- fear the sons of sparta" and the plottwists of the deaths of cyrus and clearchus completely caught me off guard. What a crazy story. Why is there no movie about this.
This adventure probably gave Philip II, the crazy idea to attack the largest empire in the world.
He was called phlippos ( Φίλιππος)
@@mishkosimonovski23 ΝΑΙ ΕΜΑΘΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΣΛΑΒΟ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΕ. ΠΕΣ ΜΑΣ ΤΙ ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΤΟ ΟΝΟΜΑ ΤΟΥ ΣΤΗΝ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΣΟΥ ΟΠΩΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΟΝΟΜΑ ΤΟΥ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ. ΦΙΛ-ΙΠΠΟΣ Φιλος των Ιππων. ΑΛΕΞ-ΑΝΔΡΟΣ, προστάτης των ανδρών. Ξύπνα απο την ψευτοιστορία που σου πούλησαν, προσγειώσου στην πραγματικότα, μην προσπαθείς να κλέψεις ιστορία άλλου έθνους και μάθε να αγαπάς την ιστορία του λαού σου, όσο ταπεινή και αν είναι αυτή ! Θα μπορούσα να συνεχίσω απ' αόριστο να παραθέτω παραδείγμα όπως τα παραπάνω. Για παράδειγμα, η μάνα του Αλέξανδρου, η Ολυμπιάδα, τον δάσκαλο του στην ΜΙΕΖΑ κλπ κλπ κλπ.
Yes, that's right, but NOT in Cyrillic letters. Either you like it or not. It's in GREEK.@@mishkosimonovski23
@@mishkosimonovski23LOL the Slavs had not even left the boglands of the southern baltic coast by the reign of Philip the Great.
@@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos Ok....but tell me what did you made in the last 1000 years, any philosophers, any inventions, any culture? Basically you are the poorest country in EU, in debts for generations, lost wars and territory to Turkey..... but sure Slavs are savages.
Don't criticism your way of story telling in the video. I found it really jarring that you did this. I really enjoyed the parts you crisised your self on. It was really cool hearing the old tougue
Hello from Greece. Xenophon is one of my heroes, he opened the path for Alexander the Great.
γεια! Possibly my favourite figure from antiquity
It was Agesilaus II that really showed the way.
@@WhizzKid2012Also true- The Spartan king
Was he gay too ?
@@Siamak-l8j Any arguments to support your statement?
I read about Xenophon when I was a young boy at primary school in the late Sixties, in a book called The Exploits of Xenophon, written by Geoffrey Household.
A marvellous read and I've loved this epic adventure story ever since, more so because it's true.
Thanks for making this video, it really does need the big screen treatment.
I love the Greek reading additions!! Amazing job, it adds so much more to the story, it sounds so epic!!
Your pronunciation is amazing....
Seriously...ut demonstates the amount of effort and skills you ve put to this assignment
Congratiulations and best greetings from Kalamata.
May Zeus thef ather of all gods known to humanity bless you .
Zeus Akhbar
I have read the anabasis as a student and it is great to listen to it again
I have always believed that Alexander the Great kept a copy of his book.
I like the long passages. Gives me a chance to follow along and learn a little.
Great video. Keep up the good work
Awesome storytelling! Thanks for your effort 🙂
Much appreciated!
The only feat comparable to the Retreat of the Ten Thousand is the Retreat of the Czechoslovak Legions across Russia during the immediate aftermath of the Russian Revolution.
Both deserved, not a mere film, but a well-produced and well-documented miniseries.
The greatest story never told (until now)
It is great you give the original texts. Who has any issue with more of that on a channel such as yours is beyond me.
One of the most exciting stories of the ancient greek history ! !
superb video
Modern estimates for Cyrus’ army don’t make sense unless we’re also to believe that there weren’t really at least 10.000 Greek mercenaries fighting for Cyrus.
There’s no way the Greeks outnumbered the non Greeks under Cyrus’ command.
modern historians have a contrarian bias. no one notices and gives grant money to a historian who acknowledges the old sources being correct. only "new takes" get money.
Awesome video
May the gods bless you for making these videos!
Love your channel and another good bio video of one of antiquities greats! A movie or tv series of this would be amazing. I read “The Falcon of Sparta” by Conn Iggulden a few years back and have been praying for a movie to be made since. Highly recommend the book to anyone who is interested.
Got it from library based on this recommendation. Great book! It’s just begging for a screenplay treatment.
Θάλαττα Θάλαττα. Awesome video 🤟
Well done ! and your Greek is fine. ΚΥΡΟΥ ΑΝΑΒΑΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΚΑΘΟΔΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΜΥΡΙΩΝ, what an adventure !... A Greek friend,
Nikephoros.
why didn't i find this channel before today? subscribed.
A great tale and a new subscription.
Just found your channel and subbed. Keep up the great work! The more Greek the better, I say!
Super voice, and great to hear how the Greek would have sounded. PS: next time, higlight/underline each word of the Greek, so we can try to follow. I've just subscribed .
This would, indeed, make a great movie.
The Lost Army Hardcover
by Valerio Massimo Manfredi. Beautiful book that tells this story
Parts in greek is what convinced me to subscribe ❤
They need to make a movie about Xenophon.
Theatre itself is Greek, yuppp!, I read that there isn't one single thing in today's world, not anything that we can think of that the Greeks didn't touch on, and we have only one percent, if that, of what they left to the world... Thank you for this Great rendering of Anabasis
An anabis anime would be amazing
A film adaptation of the Anabasis to adapt, but it would have to be directed by Robert Eggers. Nobody else in Hollywood can be trusted to do it justice.
Now that would be an experience
Xenophon's writings prove that Kurds are the indigenous people of Eastern Anatolia, which legitimates their demand for an autonomous state!
Kurds- Kardouhians- refered by Xenoohon as war people who fough against Greeks and Persians
@@elenilepouri7253 i don't understand this comment. Aren't the Kurds a indigenous nation of Anatolia or not?
@@AimKots Yes they are natives and inhabided between modern days Iran Iraq and refered by ancient authors
@@elenilepouri7253 parts of Iran, Iraq and Turkey
Every nation has the right of self-determination, whether their history goes back to Antiquity or not. The whole world should support the Kurds and every other nation fighting for their freedom.
Thank you!
I love history and am a huge fan of historical fiction. One of the best historical fictions I've ever read was by Michael Curtis Ford called The Ten Thousand.
ΕΥΓΕ ΣΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΤΙΝ ΤΕΝ ΙΑ ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ ΠΟΛΙ ΝΑΣΤΕ ΚΑΛΑ ΧΕΡΕΤΕ ΥΠΑΡΧΙ ΠΟΛΙ ΑΛΙΘΙΑ ΣΤΟ ΒΙΝΤΕΟ ΣΑΣ ΝΟ.ΙΖΟ ΑΞΙΟΠΡΕΠΗ ΤΙ ΜΕΤΆΦΡΑΣΗ ❤
I am a fan 🪭 thank you.❤
The few viewers this channel has is criminal
Very nice try on reading the Greek text, however the "ει" and "οι" are diphthongs and are pronounced as a single letter "ee" and not as two letters "ae-ee" or "o-ee".
Also, "Ξενοφών" is not pronounced "Zenophon" but "Xenophon" with an X and the accent tone is on the "on" and not the "Ze".
These, among others, are common mistakes of the Erasmian accent used in the West, trying to pronounce the Greek words with Latin characters.
One objection, involves the arbitrary tendency of modern historians to downplay the numbers mentioned in ancient sources, just because they seem too large.
The Greeks could count, so if they say they were 13 000, it is very unlikely that the entire army of Cyrus was only 15 000.
As far as the 1 200 000 troops of the other side, although it seems to be a very large number, one should realize that the Persian empire spanned from Turkey and Egypt, all the way to Afghanistan, bordering India and controlled over 80 million people at the time.
The video is an excellent work regarding the two historical books of Xenophon:
"Κύρου Ανάβασις" (Rise of Cyrus) and "Η Κάθοδος των Μυρίων" (The Descent of the Myriad i.e. 10 000).
A 3 hour long movie 🍿🎥 is not enough.
It was my understanding that xenophone was one of two leaders of the march. Xenophone led the rear guard.
This story was my favorite subject on middle school!
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Great stuff. Yes, no movie of this trek is a shame. Maybe Ridley Scott can do it. David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia) would have been a good choice; I suppose a Turkish director and cast would be reasonable as the trip is mostly through modern Turkey but they probably don't want to do anything that praises Greeks.
In fact Xenophon took the hoplite's shield which was much heavier than the one of the cavalry, but he was still wearing the cavalry thorax, which was much heavier than the hoplite's one. This was exhausting him, sth that was understandable by the soldiers who reacted like that, in favor of Xenophon.
47 yrs passed since I've read it, but i think there were elected other generals too.
Nice effort to give us the ancient Greek pronounciation! Although it's heard like finnish to me... Ancient Greeks were using long and short vocals and they pronounced them (sth difficult to do, even if U R a Greek like me, since some vocals (α, ι, υ) were sometimes short and sometimes long... a mess) and they were using accents (like the French do; although writing them is from the Hellenistic Era). So, may be they were heard like the Italians... The name Περικλ~ης (sorry, this keyboard has limited capabilities) was heard like Perile^es.
Or better written: Perikléès
Or better written: Périkléès.
Una storia e un libro stupendo !!! ❤😊
What an amazing story 😮!!!!
The art work is awesome.
If someone calls me a xenophobe, i will say thanks.. Talking heads on TV needs to read the book. Xenophon was a patriot and thats a good thing.
Xenophobe and Xenophone are two different things. "Phobe" means fear, "Phone" means voice, so Xenophone means "Foreign Voice" if you want the entire etymology of the name. And I just realized that the word "phone" is the greek word for voice.
very good. Congratulations
I bet Xenophon didn't get on with Aristotle because he was very much a man of action who experienced the realities of the world. Aristotle must have just seemed like an especially egotistical aristocrat who appropriated Socrates.
It should definitely be a movie. Sp should Alcibiodes !
Alcibiades! Now there’s a good video idea
It's certainly a good tale. He starts in Athens has to go to Sparter on thier side because of sacrilegious accusation. Possibly beds the Queen of Sparter. Then gone to Persians then back to Athens leaving the fleet in the control of a helmsman or so. Then getting bumped off by the Spartan winners of the Peloponnese War. 4 Sides in a war the cameilion
I’ve been toying with a script for years. One day maybe!
Bro how much money was offered to the mercenaries? Sorry if you mentioned it & I missed it but when you said Cyrus kept offering more theres no actual numbers & im dying to know
Well done.
Came across this tale in the Fall of Civilizations the Assyrians, recommended.
Would never work as a movie it couldn't do it justice.
"The sea, the sea!" Get's me everytime.
The use of the word “ανάχωση” is inaccurate. You must mean the Ανάβαση of Cyrus Jr (= Anábasis, 401 BCE) or the Επιστροφή (= Return) of the Mýrii (= 10000, which has signaled the actual beginning of the Hellenistic Era: 399 BCE). Because Hellenism does not begin with Alexander's death, and does not end with Cleopatra's death (the conventional span: 323-31 BCE).
Hellenistic Era, or Hellenismus:
399 BCE (Return of the Ten Thousand from Iran)
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224 CE (Fall of the Arsacid Dynasty in Iran).
Of course, Hellenismus differs from the generic use of the “#Hellenes” national designation:
776 BCE (“1st” Olympics)
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415 CE (Fall of the last non-Roman state with a Greek presence: the Kardamaka Dynasty of Ujjain, Indoscythian Kingdom).
New Sub! Nice content. You should have more subs
Appreciate it! With luck the algorithm and (more importantly my consistency) will improve!
Is this when the King dies, they leave unpaid and find the Ancient Ruins of the Assyrian/Sumer Civilizations, Ancient at this time.
Yes
"Not a horse between them", but the illustration shows them - all on horseback - crossing a river on their way back to Greece.
How does this video only have 500 views
Found this channel after jack rackham did an episode on Xenophon
Hope you enjoy!
wait you skipped a good bit of how they extorted heraclea pontica, and had smaller campaigns in bithynia and then thrace before disbanding
Read the book from our local library. Great read. Are the Karduchoi the Kurds?
Jes❤
Whats the font you used in the thumbnail?
Yeah, we can call the film Up Country March 👍
Great video. By the way, the Kurdish ancestor is Madai son of Japheth. The are the Medes.
After the initial generals were executed, Ξενοφών was elected one of the new generals and fifth in command, (not the leader)
The book Falcon of Sparta by British author Conn Iggulden is loosely based on the Anabasis.
>B.C.E.
So I guess we'll never be friends.
Is it not valid terminology?
@@AntiquityforAll Judging by which event and date "B.C.E" and "C.E" is based on we might as well call it by it's original name
I wouldn't say that he is the greatest general before Alexander. Rathe, it highlights the genius of the greeks. After losing their generals to Persian betrayal, they didn't shrink in the absence of leadership but rallied and elected their own men.
I read the book when i was 14 years old. I couldn't put it down.
Thanks for all these videos I watched during this past days, thanks for your interest for Antiquity, I like this period in history very much!
დრილები, it is a georgian word/alphabet. But I dont know what it means, maybe name of the local tribe or place.
Anyway, Georgian language is as old as Greek one, and it is more historically correct to say "Ancient Georgian kingdoms" Not "modern Georgian territory". Georgians always lived there, they are native people and had at that time 2 Georgian kingdoms, Colchis and Kartlis/Iberia. This two Georgian kingdoms were united sometimes there and here during the history, but final unification happened in middle ages, under king David. ქართველი ხალხი/georgian people, საქართველო/Georgia in georgian language.
Because when you say "modern Georgian territory" It sounds like it wasn't before, like we say modern Turkey, as Turks-Seljuks migrated into predominantly Greek speaking lands and tok it. Georgians on the other hand, always been there. Ancient nation, with ancient history, cultur and language.
You must know story about Argonauts, Jason and golden fleece, from Greek mythology? Where do you think it was? Or story about Prometheus, again from Greek mythology, who stole fire from Guds and gave it to people, where do think he was punnished?
Im just saying, even though Georgia is ancient, with ancient culture, traditions, with one of the oldest languages in the world, which by the way doesn't belong to any language tree, it is language on its own, own tree of ქართველური ენა/georgian languages, this country is still very much under rated and almost forgotten by most. That is probably why you dont know about it, that is why most do not know about it. Just makes me said..
I admit, I don't know nearly as much as I'd like about Georgian history so this comment is very much appreciated. I have in fact been to Tbilisi and to this day I think Georgia is one of the best places I've been to. Your language is beautiful, and I have to admit the alphabet (though I can't read it) is the most beautiful one in existence! I will certainly be exploring your history more, thank you!
I recommended reading this chinese translated book called Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece it’s a historical fiction about how those 10000 mercenaries escape and found a nation that conquers rome,carthage,Persia and the greeks very fun
Eternal Hellas 🔥🇬🇷
Now that you mention it, 10,000 would have been a great sequel to 300. Even the title totally fits as a continuation of the series.
300
300: Rise of an Empire
10,000
From lycurgus the lawmaker 800 bc up until 480 battle of thermopylae, sparta was stong. Before the persian attack spartans didnt like to live sparta and fight far away, other greek cities mocked them about that. When they started mercenary expeditions even exiled former kings its went kinda downhill, the cyrus ascend was a failure
300 rise of an empire was a mess. They should have named it something else.
@@okdude8215 revenge of the 300
Obrigado pelas legendas. Com elas eu consigo usar a tradução para o português.
Good effort reading ancient Greek. Not accurate enough but good effort! Nice channel!
Thank you! Keen to keep practicing!
I find it... annoying and pretentious.
@@kraanz come on :) it was very rough to the ears of a Greek like myself but at least they did try to differentiate. All these years I haven’t seen this channel trying to be pretentious so I guess it was an unfortunate effort:)
@@kraanzyou sound like you got a shovel up your skrop sideways 😭
@@WhizzKid2012it was rough for you because it didn’t sound like modern Greek. Well, Ancient Greek didn’t sound like modern Greek, we know that for a fact. There are several theories on how Ancient Greek sounded, and historians/linguists are converging on a consensus. His way of reading it is certainly closer to the Ancient Greek sound than how you and I read it using the modern Greek pronunciation.
There's a Chinese novel called "Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece" about the Ten Thousand.
Cyrus was a character in Warriors
The falcon of sparta by conn ihgulden (if it hasnt beenentioned)
I always found curious, the cities they passed that were constructed for giants. Empty cities
Major Assyrian cities of Kalhu/Nimrud and Nineveh. When the Assyrian empire dramatically and suddenly collapsed ( civil war and revolt by vassals )the cities were essentially abandoned or ignored by those that remained. Nineveh had somewhat of a rebirth centuries after Xenophon passed but never close to its former glory
Why is Xenephon not really taught or unknown?
This would make a cool t.v show
Coup de Grass?
You read the ancient Greeks like a computer,but from the other side its a good start
For example Barbaroi it sounds like Barbaree,oi=ee