Definitely want to make an electrolyte that won't corrode the tanks, and won't be an ecological nightmare if it spills before we try something like this.
I am guessing they need maintenance to keep from sinking dumping S02H04 into the sea, Harbor or land-locked dry dock. So what does it cost to coat the inside of an old tanker with a plastic that is completely resistant sulphuric acid. $35 - $80 is my guess! Whoops, the decimal point is off 8 places, maybe 12? My calculator needs batteries.
I use to talk with the inventor of Modern Vanadium Redox Batteries Marie from the University of NSW in Australia in the mid to late 80's. Encouraging her to approach our Government but just hit a brick wall. She had talks with the Chinese to have them put into a Bus System. And a few countries such as Canada, USA, Japan and Germany ended up building container size batteries for mostly UPS use.
Is'nt Tesla already producing Li Ion batteries below 100$/kWh and are decreasing the cost dramatically within the next years? At minute 11:09 he mentions that the price will be around 100-200$/kWh..
li-ion battery costs should go down considerably in the next 10-20 years, but since everyone's rushing to get a hold of lithium there might not be enough of it for everyone, so people are also working on other types of energy storage solutions.
@@NaumRusomarov, li-Sulfur batteries are the future Lithium-sulfur battery cells offer four times more density than lithium-ion ones. That translates into a phone battery lasting four times longer, and an electric car traveling that much farther. Their catalytic element sulfur costs less than cobalt or manganese, on which the lithium-ion process depends. Smaller battery size.
Linköping University has proven in the lab that organic materials can be used instead of Vanadium as an electron exchanger. Doesn't last as long, but is so cheap that it's still preferable in price.
Very helpful and well presented video, i learned a lot.
Thank you for your efforts.
Nice presentation
"Engineering can do anything" and may take some time at proportioned cost.., but at least the efforts are made.
Anyone see retiring supertankers repurposed to flow batteries amid offshore windfarms instead of third world scrapyards?
That's a brilliant idea, I've also seen proposals for storing electrolytes in the subsurface in geological formations.
Definitely want to make an electrolyte that won't corrode the tanks, and won't be an ecological nightmare if it spills before we try something like this.
I am guessing they need maintenance to keep from sinking dumping S02H04 into the sea, Harbor or land-locked dry dock. So what does it cost to coat the inside of an old tanker with a plastic that is completely resistant sulphuric acid. $35 - $80 is my guess!
Whoops, the decimal point is off 8 places, maybe 12? My calculator needs batteries.
I use to talk with the inventor of Modern Vanadium Redox Batteries Marie from the University of NSW in Australia in the mid to late 80's. Encouraging her to approach our Government but just hit a brick wall. She had talks with the Chinese to have them put into a Bus System. And a few countries such as Canada, USA, Japan and Germany ended up building container size batteries for mostly UPS use.
Due to the news of recent weeks in the world, I believe that many innovative solutions that did not have space, will now be considered ...
any one got thoughts on Gelion's zinc bromine , gel battery (not a flow battery) ?
i have 14 000 L spread across 7 containers i need parts to build
i can not wait to get started!
How did you do?
@@NwoDispatcher
got clobbered by Winter
@@-LightningRod- need help? I'd love to work on something like this
I will be emailing you soon.
Is'nt Tesla already producing Li Ion batteries below 100$/kWh and are decreasing the cost dramatically within the next years? At minute 11:09 he mentions that the price will be around 100-200$/kWh..
As I understand it, they are still well above $200/KWh at the moment
li-ion battery costs should go down considerably in the next 10-20 years, but since everyone's rushing to get a hold of lithium there might not be enough of it for everyone, so people are also working on other types of energy storage solutions.
@@NaumRusomarov, li-Sulfur batteries are the future Lithium-sulfur battery cells offer four times more density than lithium-ion ones. That translates into a phone battery lasting four times longer, and an electric car traveling that much farther. Their catalytic element sulfur costs less than cobalt or manganese, on which the lithium-ion process depends. Smaller battery size.
Anything organic yet, rather than expensive and toxic vanadium?
Linköping University has proven in the lab that organic materials can be used instead of Vanadium as an electron exchanger. Doesn't last as long, but is so cheap that it's still preferable in price.