Kaspersky for Linux but Do We Really Need Antivirus? Truth Revealed!
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SHOW NOTES ►► destinationlinux.net/374
Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:47 Community Feedback
00:10:47 Sponsored by LINBIT
00:12:06 Antivirus on Linux, do we need it?
00:31:28 Linux is getting an ARM laptop too
00:49:15 Gaming: Containment Zone
00:52:15 Software Spotlight: Encrypted Notepad 2
00:56:46 Tip of the Week: R, RStudio & officerR for powerpoint files
01:09:01 Outro
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Links:
- Community Feedback
- radxa.com/products
- destinationlinux.net/comments
- Antivirus on Linux, do we need it? (Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool)
- usa.kaspersky.com/blog/kvrt-f...
- www.clamav.net/
- www.comodo.com/home/internet-...
- Linux is getting an ARM laptop too (thanks Tuxedo Computers)
- liliputing.com/schenker-shows...
- www.techpowerup.com/323119/sc...
- Containment Zone
- store.steampowered.com/app/22...
- Encrypted Notepad
- github.com/ivoras/EncryptedNo...
- www.helpnetsecurity.com/2024/...
- R, RStudio & officerR for powerpoint files
- posit.co/download/rstudio-des...
- davidgohel.github.io/officer/
- Also check out
- / @dasgeek
- tuxdigital.com
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Encrypted Notepad:
- First make sure the Go 1.22+ library is installed.
- Then run the following commands from terminal:
```
git clone github.com/ivoras/EncryptedNo...
cd EncryptedNotepad2
go build
./EncryptedNotepad2
```
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I'm kind of surprised no one mentioned the fact that this vrius removal tool says in its terms that it's going to send all your file information to Kaspersky's servers for analysis. When I read that after downloading it I decided not to run it on my machine.
That's standard for Av tools.
@@infinitelink That's also standard for spywares.
Tuxedo having an ARM laptop sounds really cool. One thing I was worrying about however is on the topic of lasting hardware support. On Android, building a kernel that supports the SOC is basically building a kernel around a BLOB which is oftentimes not only closed source but also only available to the manufactures. Not only does this impact the freedom of your system negatively but it also means that after support for the SOC is discontinued the smartphone basically needs a custom ROM that is hacked together or it is a brick with a lot of known security issues. This happens after roughly two years for many Android devices and the reason why my Fairphone has an IOT SOC so it will be supported for longer.
Also in the beginning I was wondering why you were talking about socks now all of the sudden.
Although Kapersky might not be it, but I do think a simple computer safety solution for less tech savy user is actually a good idea from my point of view.
Clamav??
@@alienman5000 Clamav is good but I would not say it is easy to use for non technical users.
@@Fenrasulfr I use DR.Web
What tools are available to protect us from russian Kaspersky ??
Been an admin/cyber for a while and have experience with Unix, Linux, and Windows. My parents purchased a !WoW PC and while it is overpriced, it is running on a Linux kernel and has been rock solid for YEARS. Just switched to Linux myself thanks to Recall and Win 10 EOL. Gaming is going great and I'm most likely never going back.
Yipeeeeee this weeks edition of "Arround the pengine"🐧 AKA "Destination Linux"; an odd name given the fact I have been entirely Micro$oft free and on Linux for over a decade already!!!!!🤪😜
Enough of Ryan's bashing Rocket league as a childish game. I am almost 70 years old and I enjoy Rocket League immensely, both alone and with kids and grand kids. I just feel I can keep getting better indefinitely. Much better than shooting games, which is all about killing.
It doesn't make the game any less childish. Being 70 years old has no effect on the facts.
@@TTM1895 Well, maybe you're right, but there's nothing wrong with being childish then. Better than being a grown up who can only get satisfaction through killing.
@@louisfifteen
I like you. Rocket League isn’t my particular jam, but I’m in my 50s and still play PC games.
Keep it up, friend! We were there when the deep magic was written.
Old ladies need good laptops to ryan, just not kiddos! 😆 my dell is dying (its refurbished) my fingers arent strong enough to unhook clips inside. have a blessed week. Jill's cousin Lisa 🙃🤯 😁😁
❤️🤗 Cousin Lisa! 😺
If it comes to openness, surely Risc V would be the way to go then, not arm. I don't like header pins though so I'd rather get a x86 mini pc any day rather than an overpriced pi. About why laptop manufacturers are still on 1080p... well at 14" I think that's enough. What kind of DPI do you need. Now if it's a larger monitor like 17"+ you might have a case. That said, it would be nice if they had the option of both resolutions, so people who don't want to waste money can buy the 1080p version, and people who like to pixel peep can spend more.
I have a new M1 macbook from work, and I completely agree that the hardware is good (price probably is too) and the battery life is fantastic. Compared to my old, non-arm macbook, it doesn't get anywhere near as hot. If you were in any meeting, you fans were on high with that old macbook.
HOWEVER... in the business world, macs have wasted way more time than they will ever save for me. It is still not an option for business, and I'd get off of it in a heartbeat and onto an HP that's half the price and be happier. That's a pretty strong statement. If it's your personal laptop, go for mac, that's completely reasonable. It just makes my work life much worse and they present it like it's an amazing work benefit. I never want to run terraform on arm again....
I feel like much of Linux's lack of malware at the consumer level is adjacent to its lack of popularity. That other reason being the sheer fragmentation of the desktop scene. Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Arch, system libraries changing with point-updates...it's probably a bit of a task to create truly universal code, especially with the trickery that malware often has to resort to.
That's many reasons why people don't like it
I sure hope Tuxedo will start building their own computers son rather than rebranding clevo computers.
ESET had antivirus for Linux at some time ago. Dr. Web have antivirus for Linux and it works. Kaspersky is nice addition, but not needed now. Time will tell, but eventually even for Linux ecosystem antiviruses might become needed and it's better if AV programs start to grow now to be ready for that future.
That's a good point.
Linus is pronounced as Lee-nus, isn't it? He is not a Peanuts character...
Linus has gone on record that the pronunciation of his name doesn’t matter to him but he does prefer Linux to be Lin-ux
gdebi is awsome
Kapersky - Russian? Closed source?
You will gain some support especially as people leave windows 11, but how many will actually go to Apple and take away some of your rightful share?
What is a sock?
SoC = System on Chip
@@DestinationLinux Thanks
@@wcdeich4 yeah, the captions have some REALLY interesting responses to the jargon...
None of those you have mentioned still supports Linux.... only clamav and kaspersky does. Commodo has stopped working many years ago.....
Didn’t know about Comodo but does look that way. ClamAV is still made for Linux though
On our microfocus (Novel) file servers, we use semantic. I consider it malware right beside Adobe.
Great episode!
There's a terms for people having the same thoughts? Wut?!
I said it in the show, “parallel thinking”. - Michael
@@DestinationLinux yeah, i'm still suprised it that common that it has a term for it
Kaspersky already had antivirus tool for Linux called krd - kaspersky rescue disc
Yes you do. The reason why you don't have that many is because it's a lot easier to use the numerous security bugs and back doors.
Never wq. Just q!
could also be godot engine ....
Clam doesn't offer real time security.
Well she ain't unhackable around me!!! I still have a 3 1/2" floppy drive and a serial interface and PCI to ISA adaptor card, so I can use it on my Ryzen 7 7500X processor system, and also an Athlon, and I5 PC's that it can still be hooked up to.
Why not make the windows users non admin's?
You can do that but also it’s common for people to download something that requires admin and when they double click they are presented with UAC to just click okay and they do it without reading or thinking making the difference practically irrelevant unfortunately. - Michael
@@DestinationLinux But they would need an admin to confirm.
I think with a mass migration of ex-Win 10 users migrate over to Linux it will be good to increase the Linux population but then it will bring unfortunately the malware problems Windows suffered. I think it is positive to see more anti-virus software for Linux cause honestly I sometimes worry about it too.
I use ClankTK to check software out but wonder if there is better free anti-virus/malware scanners.
In the video about RISC vs CISC; I think in ARM cpus are more power efficient, but what about binary executables filesize? Since RISC has simple opcodes you need a group of them to make a more complex opcode thus increase the binary size. In the 1990s I got sort of turned off when I read about the PowerPC RISC Cpu.
I thought Kaspersky was a virus?!?!
It actually works better than ever other AV, with minimal impact to the user or speed of system.
All AV software installs at the lowest system levels mind you, so they all work similar to malware to be able to detect malware.
"Everyone's an admin on Windows", huh? You can make non-admins, am I missing something?
Windows UAC is security theater because you can give something admin power simply with a click of “Ok” and boom infected even if you aren’t admin. UAC is built in a way that makes users just click yes blindly without reading what they are doing, this makes it so a user account not being admin is a facade - Michael
Even Kaspersky is a good anti-virus on Windows. I wouldnt want to install it unless it's open source on Linux
Geez
Even AMD is more efficient then Intel !!!!
No thanks, I don't trust anything that has Russian government influence at the moment. I will just keep my best security practices and educating of end users.
Let the Windowsers have their viruses for some exitement in their life, Linuxers have xz
bruh I want 1920x1080 on my laptop, I use 1080p on 27 inch monitors and I can't even see the pixels, why in the world would I want to waste energy and performance on more pixels on a 15 inch screen.
in this day and age, why would you trust anything russian lol
Because it's far more trustworthy than anything American. Only a fool would believe Kaspersky would be the ONLY program with the possibility to spy or that Russia would be the ONLY government interested in spying on citizens. Just think of how Trump was spied on. Do you honestly believe the NSA FBI or any alphabet isn't spying on you? The truth of the matter is Broadcom, the parent company to Norton and Intel, the parent company to McAfee both have very close relationships with Washington. They recognized an opportunity to rid themselves of a major competitor and took advantage of it. To justify their decision and to hide that your right to choose is being limited they lie to you. As Washington so often does.
Or from Silicon Valley
Kaspersky, as someone in the thread wrote: Russian? Closed Source??? We need Open source software developers on this. Hey Ryan, could you maybe be a little more condescending towards people who has a different opinion than you?
no.. he's usually got that locked up...
Kaspersky russian company. Stay away from that.