Idle Heroes - OPTIMAL Hero Build Order in Idle Heroes
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Hey everyone, today I wanted to share the infographic that has been going around Reddit and Discord about how to build the most optimal team in the early game of Idle Heroes. What do you think and have you tried it???
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3:10 didnt know Eloise is a tenant for Eloise :)
That's sad
Well Aspen is a tenant for Aspen so ig it makes sense
@@abendyman u do realise every trans has their base form as a tenant right? it was a mistake on Barry's part for saying Eloise instead of Carrie lol
@@XxTheDon786xX I was saying base Aspen
I did this before the infographic was posted, and this route helped me a lot in early game transitioning to mid game 👌
This is almost the way i built my account so far, obviously a few different choices made since i was playing without any guides but glad to see ive went somewhat the right path xD
A new F2P series would be great explaining this. i found this image on reddit a few months ago and im currently trying to replicate what is there.
Barry I followed this route when you started your F2P series, it is very good progressed everywhere great. Except void campaign it hit a wall. I decided to all in swap to SSM and it feels better. I’d say just remake a infographic that includes what your F2P did. Might actually be more meta once you actually need to get thru void campaign
SFX only or you need also 2 Rogans, Drake, and tenants for her?
@@_jellybrain_ you can’t use regular heroes in void campaign which is what they are talking about but yeah you’ll need her tenants
@@MinjeongsWinter You mean the route that the infographic was based on (although it is outdated as we do vanq clear with elo + lda now.
@@nupagagyi bruh hell nah sfx is not great, ssm and lfa together is a better combo in my opinion, also why would you swap sfx to jahra after clearing vanquisher when swj does it easier
@@MinjeongsWinterwhere can I find it?
Barry didn't read the swap from Elo carry right you are going to swap to sfx carry with lfa as tenant/support. Lfa is not supposed to be carry.
7:03 SFX/LFA means both SFX AND LFA since at that point you'd have 2 trans FQV and MFF
My build was pretty similar but I did Eos as my second trans and then LOFA third as tenant to Eos. Eos sun damage is highly underrated. Artifacts I got one crown and energy feed before melodic. Approaching 4th trans hero soon Eloise is now benched just waiting to become a tenant for SSM
I agree with Sun Eos being overrated. Once in Void campaign, and for other modes too, having burns in your team helps a lot if you use the Phoenix pet.
Eos is good
@@mystisith3984 he said underrated...
Nooo barbita noooo papa no podes ponerte a grabar un video asi de loco hermano
Oooo nice video, but i will go with a different route with my build order. I wanna try to get mockman first, because he looks fun.
I think if you want to do that route, you'll need more sublimation chest
Yeah thats definitely gonna be the hard part, but if i get enough it will be really good though.
x4 sub chest (90k) would be the min you need for that route and a good copy. Im doing this route on my 2nd account too 😄
Fun > optimal gameplay. If you are bored or stuck you can always change whatever you want. :-)
It doesn't mean Sfx or LoFA, it means Sfx and LoFA
barry it's not SFX or LFA, it's SFX AND LFA
3:14 Eloise is a tenant for Eloise?
heyy i have sfx,sqh,fqv and i want to go for my 4h trans hero...im not sure what to make...i dont care about pvp...i want to clear all pve...like void camp,void vortex ,reams gate, aspen dang etc, from art im good i think... expect from demon bells i have some
Hi Barry! I pulled an A tier SFX not too long ago. I almost have enough COT to make her my first transcendence hero. The problem is that I have followed this 'optimal' route up until the Vesa part. I was wondering what heroes should I build to complement SFX. Or should I regress or swap a few heroes.
My heroes: Homeowner Eloise, E5: Tix, Holmes Young, Ithiqua, Carry and a 9 star ignis, Rogan, drake and Waldeck
Not sure if you saw my comment asking about this in your last video, but this is what I wanted to know:
Is the 10 star ignis in addition to the 9 star or is the 9 star becoming a 10 star?
Do I get a v2 tix after v3/4 fqv takes his imprints?
Do the delaciums actually add dmg to broken spaces 8/9? My current problem with this route is dmg not survivability. (I have v3 fqv and oki tenant, but not the delaciums or 10 star ignis)
Why are the 2 carries kept at 100? do they help with dark seal land?
Should I ever move golden crown off Eloise for a splendid demon bell or splendid melodic strings?
I dont know the answer to all but I'll answer the few I can
- the 10 star ignis is used for her active skill to energy feed a hero their active skill. 9 star one is just to die and give 100% energy and control immunity - 9star one is meant to be squishy whilst the 10 star should survive a bit
- delacium doesn't add damage directly but what he does is copy debuffs from 1 enemy to another.. So if there's 2 enemies - one has bleed. Delacium then takes that bleed and transfers it to the other enemy every turn meaning now there's 2 stacks of bleed on the field.
- the carries are kept at level 100 since u just want them to energy steal, a basic level 100 Carrie does the job, plus they revive constantly and can repeat their job. No need to waste resources when the 5star level 100 is enough.. Same goes for 5star baby amenras
-eloise doesn't need a splendid demon Bell or splendid melodic strings.. She works best with a splendid crown or splendid amb, everything else is a crutch for her
Last part to add.. Delacium also can copy debuffs like
Poison, attack reduction, armor reduction, burn, Speed debuffs etc.
As long as its not cc or a passive skill debuff, he can copy it. So he can't copy itaqua ghost possessed but can copy her poison and bleed
Cant copy tix's ghost but can copy his attack debuffs
I have e5 eloise and v1 and e5 garuda, do l have to regress garuda so i can make eloise v4
is building Jarah as second trans instead of Freya viable?
Add phoenix pet to that list also?
Why not SSMockman? Doesnt he deal a lot of aoe dmg?
is FQV still the best 1st trans with this strat?
I have cleared forest seal land 25 with vesa and freia so im thinking to change freia to aspen and push void vortez with v4 vesa + v4 aspen + jara + tix + e5 ignis + rogen team. Any suggestions? 😅
vesa isnt that good in void vortex as is tix. U might be able to clear vanquisher but its not an easy clear.
I was able to clear vanq with Eloise spending around 10k gems 0 trans in the lineup😊
I just started so I don't know what v2 or any of that stuff means
Guys i have gone for this, but i got a crown and then i went with a db should i keep going for db til i Get 8 or go for melodic strings? Someone please answer @barry
Go for a full Melodic first, then continue Demon Bells.
I have Garuda at 9 star and Eloise at 9 star too do I regress Garuda to up Eloise at 10 star?
Inosuke>sfx>lofa. Inosuke can be a tenant later for sfx and sfx lofa will be waaaaaaay better for ad and vc progress. So sfx and lofa start is 100 times better than vesa freya imo
it's better FQV and MFF or SFX and LFA or in which situation the combo is better than the other ?
You build FQV > MFF to support your Eloise (she is still the homeowner)
SFX / LFA gets better when you have the setup for it. (Demon Bells for energy feed, Ruyi, tenants, rogan/drake)
@@haidora6243 ty for the tips
@@haidora6243 and the 3rd trans should be SQH or SWJ ? like one is good buffer and the other is a good cc and should be good for push shadow SL so i don't know or maybe someone else is better like asmodel for tenant ?
@@tpaidk never was that far into the game, just following the guides on the official idle discord so
but I would say cc
This route here
> * FQV (Eloise HO)
> * FQV MFF (Eloise HO)
> * SFX (HO) LFA
> * SFX (HO) LFA SWJ
> * SFX (HO) LFA SWJ FQV
> * SWJ (HO) LFA FQV MFF SQH
> * SWJ (HO) LFA (HO secondary for speed in VC) FQV MFF SQH ATD
> At 3 trans you will want swj if 6+ total ruyi and fqv if you do not have this. Should make swj out of already built jahra tenant from Eloise if you kept her.
> FQV and FQV MFF both have Eloise as the **only householder** on the team.
99%of players do this. Same heroes same build , dead game
There are other heroes its upto you how you wanna build you can go holmes young too he is pretty good
holmes young is literally everywhere ngl
To be clear, it’s SFX + LFA because SFX w MS and LFA w Ruyi clear Vanq. 0 DBS needed. After those artis you collect 2 more Ruyi and 8+ DBs for when you get SWJ 3rd or 4th for VC progression. Splendid on SWJ and rad on LFA.
Also MFF isn’t for SL though it does help of course, it’s to farm or perfect smash RG void corruption 115+. Should easily be able to farm 110 with Elo + FQV but then push more with MFF. They do better than SFX comp until you have everything setup for Vanq then transition over.
How do you split this 8 demon bells? Should be a splendid demon Bell and 5 basic on the line up and tenants? I am thinking to swap fqv yo sfx and build second transcendent lofa, but I didn t understand the way you need to put the artefact for your heroes, plus should build 2 rogan and 1 drake for support.
@@georgeprodan3888 DBs aren’t needed for SFX + LFA Vanq clear. When you do get 8 DB you can make them into 2 splendid for the artifact gallery bonus. If you run into the need to have 3 DB holders you can split them into 2x radiant and 1 glit via regressing the artifacts which is fortunately free.
Jamie Chaput, thanks for your answer, now I understood what should I do.
Eloise is a tenant for Eloise
Id like to see what you could do with my account
Mock man and LFA ez seal land 25 xD
But when do i begin to build the first e5 heroes of factions like abysse or light? To claim the extra rewards
im vip 5 playinf for 6 monts and no way near e5 for light abyss
Most people build the recomended heroes, and then just pay to swap them to other less optimal factions for the achievements, then swap back.
@@Shiftlinkage101 How do you do this? Can you give me an example?
I have a v4 sfx should I give it to my Eloise instead since sfx is my only trans ?
yeah, no doubt
Pvp, specifically star arena makes this game mad confusing. All ik is no matter what i need my vesa
can i keep the garuda
If you want :) will just be food locked into Garuda but, she's still an executioner, which Eloise is not.
soon you won't want to.
Me lleva jajaja mi ingles es muy malo y no entendi casi nada, solo me estoy guiando por la imagen, si hay algun hispano que lea esto ojala me pueda decir en pocas palabras que es lo que quizo decir porfa
All the ithaqua stuff is a typo. DO NOT BUILD HER, build Onkirimaru straight. Ithaqua is totally useless.
that's not true if u don't have hw and delacium for bs she's going to help
@@spaghettiaglioeoglio4803 If you don't have hw and delacium, then you aren't clearing bs89. BS1-7 is cleared regardless as it isn't hard.
@@lebaldy1376 with hw and delacium + v4 eloise, carry, tix i can clear bs 8/9?
@@spaghettiaglioeoglio4803 you need to have a v3 Vesa. V4 better
Barry one mistake u made. Its not either Lofa or SFX its both of them.
I am so sorry Barry but videos like this are what make ALL the accounts the exact same... And it's sad seeing it in the game.
People at this point just follow what other people said and don't think what's better for them. The majority of people don't even know what all their heroes do... And this is because when they reach the end of this guide, that they have always followed without even questioning anything, they don't know anything about the game, they get lost and they quit. And I am saying this because that's what happens to the majority of people I've talked from my server or the new ones I join.
(in my opinion)
i just started playing idle heroes yesterday and of course i looked at guides all nice and fun but as u say i dnt learn anything by doing that also i maybe have better options laying around in my account with out even noticing it can u recommend a website or discord where i can learn something about the game and pick up some information before wasting ressources ??
The Fan is the best artifact on Eloise now, as far as i have heard from my Chinese pros
Just gonna say this. As a new player a lot of the terms that you use are for experienced players and mean nothing to people just starting the game. Example when you say imprint. No idea what that is or how to do it.
You will understand what it is when you reach the stage..
love ur viedos
F2P
i hate eloise route.
first nicesu
barry having some trouble talking no joke but you feeling fine barry ?
i just came back to idle heroes XD NOT FUN NGL ITS STILL THE SAME BUT I MISSED SOME COOL EVENTS
i know the sudden turn of vibe in this comment