Nice promo Billy but Saku didn’t beat the best Gracie, which is Rickson. Plus Royce beat Saku in a re-match. Even young Ralek Gracie beat Saku and Renzo avenged his loss against Saku in a Grappling match at Metamoris and Renzo had a torn ACL. Sakuraba did beat 4 Gracies and is a legend no doubt and Catch Wrestling is the real deal no doubt and Billy Robinson was a legend no doubt, but let’s not retcon history here. This isn’t pro wrestling or Rorion Gracie.
Went to a draw with Renzo in a rather competitive match all things considered. Royce in my opinion and should've lost that fight, bad decision in my eyes. Also, is beating a guy twenty years your senior even a real win at that point? Not only that, Sakuraba had him in the kimura only for the ref to stand up the fight.
Rickson was not the best in the family, Renzo was. Renzo and Ryan could actually fight standing, they were actually pretty well rounded. Rickson backed out of the fight twice. Renzo did not avenge his defeat. the grappling match was a draw (both men had top position for a time and at the end of the match Saku had made a move to regain top as the bell rung). Ralek was 25 to Saku being 43 and Saku had two good sub attempts to Ralek's 1 in that fight that also had the weird referee restart when Saku was on top with a double wristlock. Truth is in his prime Saku dominated the Gracie family in their prime. He subbed 2 and forced Royce to quit on the stool. Hell even the fight with Ryan where his shoulder was hurt, Saku stayed away from that arm to make the fight more fair. And you actually mention the famous rematch where Royce popped for roids and most MMA pundits thought Saku won that match as he was in the better positions and the aggressor.
You’re wrong, •Rickson was offered ample money long before Rockson passed on ie in 98’ and 99. Rickson turned down the fight twice. •Royce actually lost. It was closer than the first fight, but it took place in California and the judges were Gracie Jiu-Jitsu judges. •Royce was also busted for steroids for the rematch. •Renzo had his arm broken so I don’t understand what you think he avenged. •Ryan was quite literally spanked. •Ralek ‘the conman’ that was the name his family gave him for defaulting on their trust many times. Cheated in the match no less. He was locked in a double wrist lock and complained for a restart and barely took a decision against a 40 year old over the hill Sakuraba. All of the Gracies put together may not equal Sakuraba’s fighting spirit. If you study the Gracie legend or history you’ll find that they have an ample reputation for being thugs, bandits and liars in Brazil.
A true legend!
Sakuraba is 100x better than any of the Gracies
That's not really impressive by today's standards
Nice promo Billy but Saku didn’t beat the best Gracie, which is Rickson. Plus Royce beat Saku in a re-match. Even young Ralek Gracie beat Saku and Renzo avenged his loss against Saku in a Grappling match at Metamoris and Renzo had a torn ACL. Sakuraba did beat 4 Gracies and is a legend no doubt and Catch Wrestling is the real deal no doubt and Billy Robinson was a legend no doubt, but let’s not retcon history here. This isn’t pro wrestling or Rorion Gracie.
Went to a draw with Renzo in a rather competitive match all things considered. Royce in my opinion and should've lost that fight, bad decision in my eyes. Also, is beating a guy twenty years your senior even a real win at that point? Not only that, Sakuraba had him in the kimura only for the ref to stand up the fight.
Rickson was not the best in the family, Renzo was. Renzo and Ryan could actually fight standing, they were actually pretty well rounded. Rickson backed out of the fight twice. Renzo did not avenge his defeat. the grappling match was a draw (both men had top position for a time and at the end of the match Saku had made a move to regain top as the bell rung). Ralek was 25 to Saku being 43 and Saku had two good sub attempts to Ralek's 1 in that fight that also had the weird referee restart when Saku was on top with a double wristlock. Truth is in his prime Saku dominated the Gracie family in their prime. He subbed 2 and forced Royce to quit on the stool. Hell even the fight with Ryan where his shoulder was hurt, Saku stayed away from that arm to make the fight more fair. And you actually mention the famous rematch where Royce popped for roids and most MMA pundits thought Saku won that match as he was in the better positions and the aggressor.
You’re wrong,
•Rickson was offered ample money long before Rockson passed on ie in 98’ and 99. Rickson turned down the fight twice.
•Royce actually lost. It was closer than the first fight, but it took place in California and the judges were Gracie Jiu-Jitsu judges.
•Royce was also busted for steroids for the rematch.
•Renzo had his arm broken so I don’t understand what you think he avenged.
•Ryan was quite literally spanked.
•Ralek ‘the conman’ that was the name his family gave him for defaulting on their trust many times. Cheated in the match no less. He was locked in a double wrist lock and complained for a restart and barely took a decision against a 40 year old over the hill Sakuraba.
All of the Gracies put together may not equal Sakuraba’s fighting spirit. If you study the Gracie legend or history you’ll find that they have an ample reputation for being thugs, bandits and liars in Brazil.
superlyger quite right -
I have nothing but respect for the Gracie family, Billy Robinson, Rickson Gracie and Sakuraba. All of them are legit badasses.