The thing is, this works most of the time and saves you a lot of money because this means they don't need to send out an engineer and you don't need to pay him.
More like... Venice: Your flood barrier isn't working! Tech Support: Is it plugged in and switched on? Venice: Oh... Right. No, no it was not. Tech Support: *audible sigh*
I'm italian. It's so embarrassing that we can come up with incredible pieces of engineering and everything gets ruined by the corruption that cripples this country.
to be honest the idea is basically really simple, air causes the gates to rise to just above the water level when it is needed and the system is also somewhat vulnerable to human error I think it is better than nothing and I wouldn't have been able to randomly come up with it, but the deltaworks in the netherlands are completely proven (then again questions should be raised about impact on marine life as well
I think it's because the operations is said to cost around 300k€, and they probably didn't know if the tide was actually going to be big enough in order to raise the MOSE
As a citizen of Venice (admittedly its continental part, Mestre) I can assure you this is by far the best informative video on this topic avaible in english; I've seen some others examples that are just incorrect and embarassing
@@AmericaeDominaturOmnibus People just have to visit Venice, and especially take one more day to walk around and take boats to see how marvelous and precious it is.
Would you say the system is effective? When authorities think to switch it on, of course (: BTW In my opinion even if it stopped 80-90% of the floods that's a huge win
@@ErelH It is a depth structure, meaning, if the required depth to keep Venetians' feet dry is 38.85 meters, then a 39m structure won't do. It is a whole or nothing engineering, 90-95% success is a fail.
@@alongfortheride84 Yeah - they don't really seem to have taken into account the future! The future will happen and where possible it should be catered for! 🤣
Why dummy? Did you even see the video? It was said that the weather report was wrong. And they have to think very carefully about raising the gates every single tide to avoid the bay being low on oxygen.
@@vomm Saving Venice is more important. The reports were not wrong, weather forecasters were the ones who underestimated it and authorities chose not to switch it on when they could have, as a precaution.
My wife and I were honeymooning in Venice just after the flood in 2019, and we spoke with some of the shop owners as well as some of the residents about aqua Alta and they said that it’s getting worse and worse I’m so glad that this might help them!! These very happy people got very solemn anytime someone spoke of aqua Alta, it’s very serious and detrimental to their way of life
The clever bit of this system is, that it dynamically adapts to the tide level difference. In contrast to a watergate system, where huge steel doors have to withstand the tons of pressure from the water, these barriers operate basically without much stress at all. Waves are mitigated by the rotational degree of freedom and the water head pressure from the sea to the lagune is carried by buoyancy, rather then stressed steel. From an engineering standpoint, this system is great. Why, you might ask? If the water head becomes to strong on a conventional water gate to the point of system failure, the gate bursts open and lets all the water through, with the devastating effect of a broken damn. This system does the opposite. If the head pressure becomes to strong, a small flow over the top becomes possible, slowly and gently raising the lagune water level until equilibrium is recreated once more. I can see why it cost so much money, it's a brilliant solution.
@@trevor7355 corruption has always been rampant, but now its alot easier to see and talk to people about it because we have the internet, but if anybody actually does anything is something else
Apart from the climate change propaganda. I could try and ignore it I guess. But using the facts from a few years to claim sealevels will drown people soon is so dumb. People never learn to avoid hypes to scare children about the future. lol. But I'm dead serious. Look at all the scams with covid. So many people have power they will not let go. Great people they are.
@@ForcesNL Yes climate change propaganda, aha. One year ago a city near mine was recovered in water of 1m and the last flood like that happened 40 years ago. Yeah idk where you live but ive been in indonesia and near some isles you can clearly see house roofs floating in the sea. Maybe try travelling a bit to see what happens in the world instead of staying in your farm in texas.
@@hueyfreeman7010 Once they're submerged, they can change depth using their control surfaces like an airplane. But in order to get submerged in the first place, they have to flood their tanks. And viceversa when they want to resurface.
@@hueyfreeman7010 Subs work the same way. They have water tanks for ballast and when they want to surface, they blow the water out the tanks with compressed gas. Submarines also use “dive planes” (like a wing surface that can pivot) to pitch the submarine up or down
As an Italian resident in Veneto I must say that it is a simple and at the same time clear video. only one correction: at 2:40 the names of the entrances of Chioggia and Malamocco were reversed.
@@KSingh627 from 14th September to 29th november or from 15th March to 30 April... I suggest not to visit Venice during weekend. PS. From June/july 2022 the municipality of Venice Will introduce a tax for non-venetian people(to pay MOSE manteinance), and you have to book your visit in Advance.
Thank you for this video. I really should’ve watched it sooner. I really can’t believe how crazy the Venice project has gone over budget. It’s just insane.
@@lytrell1326 He's the guy that co hosted (don't know if that's the term) Mythbusters with Jamie Hyneman. He's the one that wore an Indiana Jones hat. It's crazy to think we already have a generation that didn't grow up with Mythbusters (ot the Lord of the Rings)
Asking a country who doesn’t really like us and tries to hinder us in any way they can to solve one of the major national security problems we face? Nope I think I’ll trade some corruption and bureaucracy in exchange for handling this exclusively within our borders thank you very much!
@@Caleidus Its not even an engineering problem, it’s the corruption behind it that painted a bad image for the MOSE and some environmental weirdos who want to stop it.
I thought I was watching the B1M, but is this a new channel? I these kinds of videos! :) Urban planning, infrastructural engineering and things alike, awesome stuff
We were eating in a restaurant in Italy when the staff told us that they had to close soon, because "the water would be coming in soon" Needless to say it was a fantastic dining experience
@@darrenc3439 Of course it's going up! Miami spent $300M on pumps to deal with the increasing tides. All coastal areas are doomed. Well, actually the new coast will just be further inland.
@@darrenc3439 I wonder what all the schizoid conspiracy nuts would sat in like 20-30 years when this becomes a problem you can't ignore anymore? Like with corona?
@@siritio3553 You mean the one that you have a 98.9 % survival rate unless your morbidly obese or have a pre-existing life threatening condition? You might want to put you pull your face diaper down and get a little oxygen to your brain next time you want to respond, perhaps you will sound halfway intelligent, then again, probably not.
I once worked offshore close to Venice. The Adriatic can be as mean as they get. One night when boarding a helicopter, the wind and driving rain blew ferociously enough that the helicopter had a hard time staying on the helipad. Being a large man, they asked me to get aboard quickly for ballast. I was soaked as everyone else was. The helicopter shook trying to maintain its footing. The normal paperwork for the flight couldn’t be accomplished at that time. The Helicopter Landing Officer (HLO) was fighting the wind and rain to the point he crouched down leaning into the gusts. Once the doors shut and the pad cleared we took off with little resistance straight up into the storm. The funny part was that once we gained a few hundred feet, the ride smoothed out as we turned direction to Padova, Italy. The airport was only 20 miles away. Other times the Adriatic was so ruff that the rented cruise ship Nord Norge had to leave the platform because of the swells. We had a good 25 feet of up and down for hours. Finally we made for Port of Padova and protection from the sea. We had to stay there for 5 days before we could make it back.
Now you understand why the mythology was so much about the Adriatic. Because they truly would either get lucky and have a nice travel, or just straight up die in a horrible storm.
You are right! Sometime, due to meteorological condition The west side of adriatic sea is as a pot when the water boiling. The waves rise up very quickly due to wind that increase speed constricted from Croatian and Italian mountais and the modest deep of seebed. The result is a storm with high wawes withot a preferential direction an gusts of wind of very higt intersitity.
Every now and then a James Bond movie will have a sequence that you just know was added because they hadn't gotten around to using the 007 stage at Pinewood
I visited Venice in Nov 2017 and was shocked how much of the city was submerged when on a Gondola tour. Stairs and landings which would have been above water level when built were probably a metre underwater. It’s a fascinating place considering it is mainly built with wooden piles under it. It probably would have been cheaper to build a sea wall round the city instead of all those expensive gates?
ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING and all encompassing! Some of the best time I’ve ever spent watching a video. Although I’ll never have the money to travel internationally, I sure hope Venice can be saved.
Unfortunately this is only a temporary fix to a long term problem. If not for the floods the city of Venice is still sinking into the waters around it. The 7+ Billion spent would have been more wisely used if they did something about the long term problem of controlling the sinking city of Venice. The floods are the least of their problems.
@@weldmachine Welllllll, at least they've done that. I'm not an engineer but at least I know that trying to keep the entire city from sinking sounds truly impossible.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 Not impossible to raise structures in height for different reasons. It's called Hydraulic Jacking. The Good part about this is you can keep making ongoing adjustments to the height. back fill as you lift.
@@weldmachine I'm well aware of the process but again.....trying to jack up allllllll those hundreds & hundreds of years old buildings that are incredibly fragile because of their age? No matter how slow & carefully anyone tried, they'd fall apart and their sheer number, once again makes the task infeasible.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 True what you say about the fragile buildings of Venice. But which is worse ? Letting the city destroy itself ? Or sacrificing some fragile buildings for the sake of saving so many others. Demolition of unsound buildings is not a new thing. I would be for saving the city not trying to keep the water out. Just the maintenance alone each year could save multiple buildings each year. 100 million per year that basically does nothing except keep some people employed. The whole idea of the flood gates is a temporary measure at best. Not a long term solution. If one part of the gate system fails the water will still come in ????
I remember seeing them testing these things out since the late 80s. At the east entrance to Venice, further out than Punta Sabbioni they had sometimes someting that looked like experiments
2:57 there have been *grippaggio* problems (they concerned the joint between the gate and the hinge, the contact between iron and iron)in the past but now it's ok.
It would cost less and be more fool-proof to build a causeway along the entire sea wall side of the lagoon and the Adriatic. Then using a pair of locks to allow ships to transit as needed, even up to cruise ships sizes. You could even build a slim causeway from Venice to the sea wall and have a commuter system for ships that might be too big in the future to use a lock. They would dock outside the wall and the passengers would transit into the city. The water in the lagoon would slowly become less saline and a new ecosystem would develop. This would allow for many things not found in the city at this time. The sea wall could even be built to put in a new airport. The advantages are huge for this Secure Lagoon concept and the cost is far less than what is being touted here and the big take away is that Venice would NEVER flood again.
Isn’t there also the problem of sea floor sediments going under the barriers while they are up and therefore blocking them from coming back into the foundation?
@@bigbadjohn10 The point is what's the cost of this added continuouse maintenance? Is this engineering oversight puts the economical feasibility and longevity of the project into question?
The one time I went to Venice, almost 20 years ago, they were having this problem. When I told my friends Venice was flooded (via LiveJournal at a 'net café-who remembers those?) they said 'isn't it supposed to be?'
A most excellent video thank you! You might have forgotten to mention the inferior steel used that is now rusting away? Due to the classic Italian corruption of course..Giuseppe
What abt the sinking issue with the foundation? If I remember correctly, Venice foundation was built on wood, and at some point they were considering shoving in compressed plastic underneath fill in the space and hopefully make it more stable.
Yes, in the end this is all a huge waste of time. Venice is a temporary city and it cant be saved, and shouldnt be saved. 7 billion on venice with the state of southern Italy is shameful. The Venetians complain the cruise ships are making the water worse with localized displacement, being willfully ignorant of the fact a packed city with no roads or production of any sort needs cruise ships. They want to pretend that Venice has a reason to exist outside tourism when it hasnt been a financial center since the advent of the world economy. But the Italian govt wants to save it because tourism is all they have for the most part. That and the piles of crap Fiat builds you cant buy if you live anywhere it gets cold. Cause youll freeze to death.
Great video. I didn’t know about this. We have a system of locks that do the reverse in cardiff, Wales. It holds water from a river and creates a bay while allowing boats to leave at high tide. If you run out of interesting things to look at, it could be worth a video..
just a short while ago, they've finally been banned. The large ships will now be redirected to Mestre docks on the mainland, without permission to come near Venice.
@@mygetawayart nope, they were banned from sailing through the grand canal and alongside st marco square. But they can still park their floating skyscrapers close to the train station. Which is not the mainland. They do have plans to build new terminals on the lagoon entrances. Which would solve this problem long term
I remember reading Natiinal Geographic magazine in the1960s when Venice had bad flooding, art treasures were damaged and there was attempts to restore oil paintings, etc.
The thing I don't get entirely is that if the water level rises permanently, the barrier has to always be up as well or the sea level inside the lagoon will rise, meaning that no ships bigger than those that already fit through the locks can enter the city, so at one point the barrier has to be up 24/7 or Venice will drown
It's all nonsense quite frankly. The rising sea levels will obviously inundate the land either side of the barriers anyway. The projections for sea level rises are utterly terrifying. All you have to do is look at Oceanic Palaeontology records to see the enormous changes in sea level that are linked to historic climate change. These changes, entirely natural, have been massively speeded up by human lifestyle choices and so what would have once taken 5000-7000 years could well happen in only a few hundred. That's the problem. We won't have time to adapt. Look at it this way...the last ice age was caused by a drop of 6 degrees celsius from the global average. Now think about what an increase of 6 degrees would do....goodbye polar ice caps...sea level rises by 100 metres....the sea level has changed by that amount in the past and will do again.
I'm here after just watching a video that informed me that the NHS in the UK spent £37BN to make their COVID tracker app. After that, £7BN to save Venice sounds like a hell of a deal..
I guess we should implement something like this in Mumbai too. Please cover the flooding problem of Mumbai city which happens every year in the rainy season.
@@vicnovicio i mean, if you come as a tourist you won’t have any problem, it’s not a dangerous place to live. The quality of life is super good (90% thanks to the food and nice places) but we are structurally and technologically behind in comparison to others. For example I still have a 5mb connection and I live in one of the best regions economically, thanks to the internet company that slowed fiber’s development
@@vicnovicio every country has pros and cons. If you have money in italy you will live like a god: best food (sorry for this 😂), awesome landscapes and infinite cities to visit. You won’t find a modern country tho
My head just broke reading this comment. Do we understand that a "moat" is an encircling ditch typically filled with water? I keep shoveling the water to make a ditch, but it keeps flattening out all by itself! So frustrating!
I'm always reminded of the author Robert Benchleys tongue in cheek response to his agent when arriving in Venice for the first time....'Streets full of water....Please advise '...
The city was literally supported on cushions of water under the ground and when drainage increased, the city sinking was exacerbated. I have a reference book about this.
@@fareshajjar1208 we are currently on track to 8 feet of sea level rise by 2100, not accounting for any of the 12 feedback loops already triggered. More likely to be around 25-30 feet
@@danielstory2761 Those are computer model projections. There is no observable sea level rise except what has been happening in an orderly fashion since the end of the ice age with is tiny. Computer models have been wrong about every single prediction made in climate science thus far. In 1989 they told us the ice caps would be gone by now. They are just models. A computer model is wrong 80% of the time about the track of a hurricane 1 week out. How on earth would you think computer models would be able to predict anything 50 years out?
@@fareshajjar1208 tell that to the citizens of Venice. Even if everything you say is correct with your claim, it’s undeniably clear that the flooding in the city has become a recent problem and doesn’t seem to end in the future. Your discourse is the main issue in preventing us to salvage a city in desperation.
Love technology but corruption needs to be addressed with these as we need to think of ways to roll out protection systems across board probably at shorter notice in the future given flooding increases recently.
It wouldn't be Italian if it wasn't complicated, corrupt and questionable. Should have put the Dutch in charge; they've been efficiently and effectively solving flooding problems for centuries
Asking a country who doesn’t really like us and tries to hinder us in any way they can to solve one of the major national security problems we face? Nope I think I’ll trade some corruption and bureaucracy in exchange for handling this exclusively within our borders thank you very much! P.S. if you wanna look for corruption and questionable decisions you can take a good look at you government, as an American I don’t think you have much of a reason to look down on other countries, fix your damn problems first!!!
I remember reading about raising Venice versus building a sea barrier and thought the sea barrier is more costly in the long run and more problematic as well. At least with the idea of raising structures and filling underneath, you reduce tear down costs and you already invested in equipment that can raise the city again. Not only that, other cities may pay for the use of your equipment and help get your expenses in the black after a certain number of contracts.
Ideas are one thing, but reality is a different beast. Whatever you imagined in your mind can fail in the face of a real world test. So, in spite of our imaginations, we have to account for real world experiences, as well as their successes and failures. If it works, keep it; if it fails, improve on it, and do better next time,
Per Scripps, Venice and that whole part of Italy is subsiding (sinking) at a rate of 16 inches per century and ocean levels per NOAA are rising 12 inches per century. Both reasons for flooding are wholly natural plate tectonics and cyclic worldwide ice ages followed by worldwide "warm ages" that cause ocean levels to fluctuate 1,200 feet / every 15,000 years. Bottom line, that part of Italy is in trouble.
7:25 The point is that the MOSE had to be invisible. The Thames barrier and the dutch monumental pieces of engineering would ruin Venice lagoon seesight. So to all the people writing in the comments "they should have asked the Dutch", part of the answer is: they have looked at what have been done in the Netherlands, and they decided to develop another solution.
Please note that the map showing the position of the barriers is incorrect. Chioggia is at the southern entrance and not in the middle, this is where Malamocco should be.
The solution is to put an end to the italian unitary state. So you can free the severls populations currently living under this banana republic. Lombards,Tuscans,Venetians, for example, could express their potential once again. Until they are ''italian citziens'' they wil be the joke of Europe.
The problem is not the design though. The real problem is all the corruption that cannot be avoided. I doubt a Dutch construction company would come to build it. They would just design it and make the Italians build it. The fundamental problem thus stays.
Not really mafia but curruption, political and economic interest.. Curruption is everywhere, not just an italian problem. Better use proper terms and yes, corruption is a huge problem
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Thanks so much Jesse!! That's officially the first ever comment on Tomorrow's Build. What a moment. This is up there with the moon landing.
Heres me screen shotting this moment now😅😂.
da best sidekick to the B1M!!!!! The two editions
I just wanted to be a part of this history some how haha congrats on your achievement Jesse
Way to go Jesse Goodyear!!! All the best (in future endeavours) from Canada!!! 👍🌟🖖
I studied in Venice for two years. One advantage of floods is that apartments on the first floor are quite cheap.
Lol this comment is too underrated
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Hahahaha
I damn near peed myself reading your comment.
Hang everything from the ceiling and sleep on an air mattress, eh?
Yes, I'm Canadian.
Venice shops: we got flooded by water again
Customer support: have you tried turning the $7BN megaproject OFF, then ON?
That always works with my cable box.
The thing is, this works most of the time and saves you a lot of money because this means they don't need to send out an engineer and you don't need to pay him.
Just hit it hard two times itll reset
More like...
Venice: Your flood barrier isn't working!
Tech Support: Is it plugged in and switched on?
Venice: Oh... Right. No, no it was not.
Tech Support: *audible sigh*
You guys are all goats!!!
I'm italian. It's so embarrassing that we can come up with incredible pieces of engineering and everything gets ruined by the corruption that cripples this country.
It's not just the corruption, There are several glaring engineering flaws in the design
to be honest the idea is basically really simple, air causes the gates to rise to just above the water level when it is needed and the system is also somewhat vulnerable to human error
I think it is better than nothing and I wouldn't have been able to randomly come up with it, but the deltaworks in the netherlands are completely proven
(then again questions should be raised about impact on marine life as well
Don't worry. If it makes you feel any better its a worldwide human issue.
@@Праведныймиротворец are you ok?
@@costaskl6589 I'm fine and you ?
In this context, “Authorities didn’t think to switch it on” is probably one of the most Italian-bureaucratic sounding things I’ve ever heard
Sadly yes
I think it's because the operations is said to cost around 300k€, and they probably didn't know if the tide was actually going to be big enough in order to raise the MOSE
when the weather forecast said not to switch it on
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Maybe they will get in trouble for it.
As a citizen of Venice (admittedly its continental part, Mestre) I can assure you this is by far the best informative video on this topic avaible in english; I've seen some others examples that are just incorrect and embarassing
Che merda Mestre però
It's so sad to see people in this comment section saying they would just abandon the city, but don't realize people like you actually live there.
@@AmericaeDominaturOmnibus People just have to visit Venice, and especially take one more day to walk around and take boats to see how marvelous and precious it is.
Would you say the system is effective? When authorities think to switch it on, of course (:
BTW In my opinion even if it stopped 80-90% of the floods that's a huge win
@@ErelH It is a depth structure, meaning, if the required depth to keep Venetians' feet dry is 38.85 meters, then a 39m structure won't do. It is a whole or nothing engineering, 90-95% success is a fail.
imagine paying 7 billion only to have the dummy in charge not turn it on....
Yeah - if only there was some way to automate it 🤣
Imagine paying 7 billion only to have the thing become useless a few decades later...
@@alongfortheride84 Yeah - they don't really seem to have taken into account the future!
The future will happen and where possible it should be catered for! 🤣
Why dummy? Did you even see the video? It was said that the weather report was wrong. And they have to think very carefully about raising the gates every single tide to avoid the bay being low on oxygen.
@@vomm Saving Venice is more important. The reports were not wrong, weather forecasters were the ones who underestimated it and authorities chose not to switch it on when they could have, as a precaution.
My wife and I were honeymooning in Venice just after the flood in 2019, and we spoke with some of the shop owners as well as some of the residents about aqua Alta and they said that it’s getting worse and worse I’m so glad that this might help them!! These very happy people got very solemn anytime someone spoke of aqua Alta, it’s very serious and detrimental to their way of life
Thanks sherlock
The clever bit of this system is, that it dynamically adapts to the tide level difference. In contrast to a watergate system, where huge steel doors have to withstand the tons of pressure from the water, these barriers operate basically without much stress at all. Waves are mitigated by the rotational degree of freedom and the water head pressure from the sea to the lagune is carried by buoyancy, rather then stressed steel.
From an engineering standpoint, this system is great. Why, you might ask? If the water head becomes to strong on a conventional water gate to the point of system failure, the gate bursts open and lets all the water through, with the devastating effect of a broken damn. This system does the opposite. If the head pressure becomes to strong, a small flow over the top becomes possible, slowly and gently raising the lagune water level until equilibrium is recreated once more.
I can see why it cost so much money, it's a brilliant solution.
And this is a brilliant comment.
Basically, the gate being slant at an angle makes the difference?.
Oh, Why you might ask? Lol
@@kalyanvadlamani7607 the gate floating makes the difference mainly
Very well written summary, this is how I saw it working also
CORRUPTION has kept this from happening sooner and wars over the contracts
Can't let progress get in the way of profit!
Corruption is rampant in today’s world.
@@trevor7355 corruption has always been rampant, but now its alot easier to see and talk to people about it because we have the internet, but if anybody actually does anything is something else
@@stuckingachahell buy and hold GameStop.
@@stuckingachahell that’s what people are doing
Here I’m thinking I’m watching B1M and realize that I have a bunch of new videos to watch…Fantastic!
This reminds me of when Discovery was a good channel, thanks for taking the reigns!!!
Apart from the climate change propaganda. I could try and ignore it I guess. But using the facts from a few years to claim sealevels will drown people soon is so dumb. People never learn to avoid hypes to scare children about the future. lol. But I'm dead serious. Look at all the scams with covid. So many people have power they will not let go. Great people they are.
@@ForcesNL Your conspiracy theories don't change the facts. There need to be more channels spreading the right information, like this one.
@@ForcesNL Yes climate change propaganda, aha. One year ago a city near mine was recovered in water of 1m and the last flood like that happened 40 years ago. Yeah idk where you live but ive been in indonesia and near some isles you can clearly see house roofs floating in the sea. Maybe try travelling a bit to see what happens in the world instead of staying in your farm in texas.
It’s cool how these barriers are raised by using compressed gases to displace water, in the exact same way Submarines resurface.
Don't subs use ballasting to acend and decend??
@@hueyfreeman7010 ballast is just water where there would otherwise be air.
@@hueyfreeman7010 Once they're submerged, they can change depth using their control surfaces like an airplane. But in order to get submerged in the first place, they have to flood their tanks. And viceversa when they want to resurface.
@@hueyfreeman7010 Subs work the same way. They have water tanks for ballast and when they want to surface, they blow the water out the tanks with compressed gas. Submarines also use “dive planes” (like a wing surface that can pivot) to pitch the submarine up or down
@@notmenotme614 no
As an Italian resident in Veneto I must say that it is a simple and at the same time clear video. only one correction: at 2:40 the names of the entrances of Chioggia and Malamocco were reversed.
Se mi fusse da Mestre diria "ma dove ti va"
Venessia gang
I’m sure you’re not a huge fan of tourists, however I’d like to visit Venice again, what specific months would you recommend?
@@KSingh627 from 14th September to 29th november or from 15th March to 30 April... I suggest not to visit Venice during weekend. PS. From June/july 2022 the municipality of Venice Will introduce a tax for non-venetian people(to pay MOSE manteinance), and you have to book your visit in Advance.
@@travelds wow thank you Davide! When I visit, I’ll reply back in this thread and see if you’re in town! Haha
Thank you for this video. I really should’ve watched it sooner. I really can’t believe how crazy the Venice project has gone over budget. It’s just insane.
Need to save this beautiful place for the next generation. I've been in Venice it's soooo beauuutttiifulll! I love Italy. Filipino from Finland. ❤️
Omg adam savage is the producer?!!?!? That dude is definitely living his best life props to all the people involved!
Mythbusters
The guy can’t even wave hi when I see him ride by on my street in SF.
He’s the guy from The B1M right????
@@lytrell1326 I don't think so. He's from the Mythbusters show and has videos on the TH-cam channel "Adam Savage's Tested"
@@lytrell1326 He's the guy that co hosted (don't know if that's the term) Mythbusters with Jamie Hyneman. He's the one that wore an Indiana Jones hat.
It's crazy to think we already have a generation that didn't grow up with Mythbusters (ot the Lord of the Rings)
They should've asked the Dutch to handle this :')
Precies!
Asking a country who doesn’t really like us and tries to hinder us in any way they can to solve one of the major national security problems we face?
Nope I think I’ll trade some corruption and bureaucracy in exchange for handling this exclusively within our borders thank you very much!
No, thanks. We have been brilliantly dealing with hydraulic engineering since Julius Caesar........
@@Caleidus Its not even an engineering problem, it’s the corruption behind it that painted a bad image for the MOSE and some environmental weirdos who want to stop it.
Yep, Italians have good food and clothes but not so good at engineering.
I thought I was watching the B1M, but is this a new channel? I these kinds of videos! :)
Urban planning, infrastructural engineering and things alike, awesome stuff
We were eating in a restaurant in Italy when the staff told us that they had to close soon, because "the water would be coming in soon"
Needless to say it was a fantastic dining experience
Wow' another channel, Love these contents...
I just learned that this channel is produced by Adam Savage!!!! Best maker EVER!!
He is a damn liar then. Venice is sinking and sea levels are not rising....
@@darrenc3439 Of course it's going up! Miami spent $300M on pumps to deal with the increasing tides. All coastal areas are doomed. Well, actually the new coast will just be further inland.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Sweet lie, bet you can scare all the sheep into giving you control over their money and lives with a solid scam like that.
@@darrenc3439 I wonder what all the schizoid conspiracy nuts would sat in like 20-30 years when this becomes a problem you can't ignore anymore? Like with corona?
@@siritio3553 You mean the one that you have a 98.9 % survival rate unless your morbidly obese or have a pre-existing life threatening condition? You might want to put you pull your face diaper down and get a little oxygen to your brain next time you want to respond, perhaps you will sound halfway intelligent, then again, probably not.
I once worked offshore close to Venice. The Adriatic can be as mean as they get. One night when boarding a helicopter, the wind and driving rain blew ferociously enough that the helicopter had a hard time staying on the helipad. Being a large man, they asked me to get aboard quickly for ballast. I was soaked as everyone else was. The helicopter shook trying to maintain its footing. The normal paperwork for the flight couldn’t be accomplished at that time. The Helicopter Landing Officer (HLO) was fighting the wind and rain to the point he crouched down leaning into the gusts. Once the doors shut and the pad cleared we took off with little resistance straight up into the storm. The funny part was that once we gained a few hundred feet, the ride smoothed out as we turned direction to Padova, Italy. The airport was only 20 miles away.
Other times the Adriatic was so ruff that the rented cruise ship Nord Norge had to leave the platform because of the swells. We had a good 25 feet of up and down for hours. Finally we made for Port of Padova and protection from the sea. We had to stay there for 5 days before we could make it back.
Now you understand why the mythology was so much about the Adriatic. Because they truly would either get lucky and have a nice travel, or just straight up die in a horrible storm.
Great comment! Just have to say *rough and not ruff
You are right! Sometime, due to meteorological condition The west side of adriatic sea is as a pot when the water boiling. The waves rise up very quickly due to wind that increase speed constricted from Croatian and Italian mountais and the modest deep of seebed.
The result is a storm with high wawes withot a preferential direction an gusts of wind of very higt intersitity.
I doubt that helo was flying in those weather conditions sounds like a tall story to me!
I hope they save Venice, it's one of my favorite places. I've been there 4 or 5 times in the past 20 years.
The architecture of Venice is brilliant
I love they way that they say "The Thames Barrier" then "Rotterdams system" - not even trying to pronounce the latter!
Allemaal in Koor!! Waterlandkering :P
@@Tim_van_de_Leur Wrong, it's named Maeslantkering. Or Maize Land Kerring in English.
That bond reference killed me😂💀
The joke could be said to be... licensed to kill. ;)
It’s time someone held Daniel Craig to account for helping to sink Venice.
Every now and then a James Bond movie will have a sequence that you just know was added because they hadn't gotten around to using the 007 stage at Pinewood
Amazing you were still able to type this message after you died.
Rest in peace
Thank yall for the amazing content between B1M and Tomorrow's Build. Incredible content, I've learned so much. Love it!
I visited Venice in Nov 2017 and was shocked how much of the city was submerged when on a Gondola tour. Stairs and landings which would have been above water level when built were probably a metre underwater. It’s a fascinating place considering it is mainly built with wooden piles under it. It probably would have been cheaper to build a sea wall round the city instead of all those expensive gates?
There were different solutions. Even talking about raising foundations like they did somewhere else.
@David Wang Nothing lasts forever. What are you saying?
I watched a long documentary on this, sea life is also a big issue growing on all the underwater equipment, preventing it from working properly.
ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING and all encompassing! Some of the best time I’ve ever spent watching a video. Although I’ll never have the money to travel internationally, I sure hope Venice can be saved.
Unfortunately this is only a temporary fix to a long term problem.
If not for the floods the city of Venice is still sinking into the waters around it.
The 7+ Billion spent would have been more wisely used if they did something about the long term problem of controlling the sinking city of Venice.
The floods are the least of their problems.
@@weldmachine Welllllll, at least they've done that. I'm not an engineer but at least I know that trying to keep the entire city from sinking sounds truly impossible.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 Not impossible to raise structures in height for different reasons.
It's called Hydraulic Jacking.
The Good part about this is you can keep making ongoing adjustments to the height. back fill as you lift.
@@weldmachine I'm well aware of the process but again.....trying to jack up allllllll those hundreds & hundreds of years old buildings that are incredibly fragile because of their age? No matter how slow & carefully anyone tried, they'd fall apart and their sheer number, once again makes the task infeasible.
@@greeneyedwarlock882
True what you say about the fragile buildings of Venice.
But which is worse ?
Letting the city destroy itself ?
Or sacrificing some fragile buildings for the sake of saving so many others.
Demolition of unsound buildings is not a new thing.
I would be for saving the city not trying to keep the water out.
Just the maintenance alone each year could save multiple buildings each year.
100 million per year that basically does nothing except keep some people employed.
The whole idea of the flood gates is a temporary measure at best.
Not a long term solution.
If one part of the gate system fails the water will still come in ????
I remember seeing them testing these things out since the late 80s. At the east entrance to Venice, further out than Punta Sabbioni they had sometimes someting that looked like experiments
Besides the interesting information, this guy has a great documentary voice :)
Check out The B1M channel, he runs it!!
@@lytrell1326 yup, already subscribed tnx
2:57 there have been *grippaggio* problems (they concerned the joint between the gate and the hinge, the contact between iron and iron)in the past but now it's ok.
Just found this channel! It’s really awesome! I’m so glad i’ve stumbled upon it! Keep up the great work!
It would cost less and be more fool-proof to build a causeway along the entire sea wall side of the lagoon and the Adriatic. Then using a pair of locks to allow ships to transit as needed, even up to cruise ships sizes. You could even build a slim causeway from Venice to the sea wall and have a commuter system for ships that might be too big in the future to use a lock. They would dock outside the wall and the passengers would transit into the city.
The water in the lagoon would slowly become less saline and a new ecosystem would develop. This would allow for many things not found in the city at this time. The sea wall could even be built to put in a new airport. The advantages are huge for this Secure Lagoon concept and the cost is far less than what is being touted here and the big take away is that Venice would NEVER flood again.
Would love to see more videos about tidal defence systems!
Isn’t there also the problem of sea floor sediments going under the barriers while they are up and therefore blocking them from coming back into the foundation?
Just tack that on to the 100 million per year maintenance cost too lol
This also happens with the Thames Barrier, but it is dealt with by the maintenance and testing cycle.
The whole project is flawed
Don't mention such things here, these people don't like questions exposing their skewed narrative 😂😂
@@bigbadjohn10 The point is what's the cost of this added continuouse maintenance? Is this engineering oversight puts the economical feasibility and longevity of the project into question?
This is brilliant engineering 👏🏽.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Love that bond James bond sinking buildings part
Haha, you’re welcome!
I happened to be there randomly the first time they used MOSE and took the ferry out to see it. Impressive engineering.
The one time I went to Venice, almost 20 years ago, they were having this problem. When I told my friends Venice was flooded (via LiveJournal at a 'net café-who remembers those?) they said 'isn't it supposed to be?'
Thank you for sharing...
Are we having to have a new name of this cool and great website . Is the "Tomorrow's Build" becoming the new name from the old "B1M"?
Near, Far, Wherever you are, i believe that your heart will go on!!
So glad I am amongst the first to subscribe in this channel!!!
A most excellent video thank you! You might have forgotten to mention the inferior steel used that is now rusting away? Due to the classic Italian corruption of course..Giuseppe
I got so excited when they seemed to have worked in October
Thank You great job why this has not received more News
Coverage in the US is beyond me. Viva Italy!!!! Great Country Great People. ✌️
Fantastic narration. Also nice touch of James Bond!
6:08 lol the Jimmy choo workers were stressed
I was thinking that too. “These shoes were not made to wade through seawater!” Haha
What abt the sinking issue with the foundation? If I remember correctly, Venice foundation was built on wood, and at some point they were considering shoving in compressed plastic underneath fill in the space and hopefully make it more stable.
Yes, in the end this is all a huge waste of time. Venice is a temporary city and it cant be saved, and shouldnt be saved. 7 billion on venice with the state of southern Italy is shameful. The Venetians complain the cruise ships are making the water worse with localized displacement, being willfully ignorant of the fact a packed city with no roads or production of any sort needs cruise ships. They want to pretend that Venice has a reason to exist outside tourism when it hasnt been a financial center since the advent of the world economy. But the Italian govt wants to save it because tourism is all they have for the most part. That and the piles of crap Fiat builds you cant buy if you live anywhere it gets cold. Cause youll freeze to death.
This is brilliant! ❤️
Very Interesting. Worth the watch
Really interesting video and quality is just lit!
Great video. I didn’t know about this. We have a system of locks that do the reverse in cardiff, Wales. It holds water from a river and creates a bay while allowing boats to leave at high tide. If you run out of interesting things to look at, it could be worth a video..
Definitely the most beautiful city I've ever been to
Well, on the bright side, they must have very clean streets...
Love this City
Is this the B1M? Sound so familiar
Also need to ban large ships. Their wash damages the structures.
Their travel in the city got recently banned
just a short while ago, they've finally been banned. The large ships will now be redirected to Mestre docks on the mainland, without permission to come near Venice.
@@mygetawayart nope, they were banned from sailing through the grand canal and alongside st marco square.
But they can still park their floating skyscrapers close to the train station. Which is not the mainland.
They do have plans to build new terminals on the lagoon entrances. Which would solve this problem long term
they will get right on it sir!
Sounds like this thing is going to be needed every high tide very soon.
This is so fascinating and potentially depressing at the same time. Hopefully this all works out for the best.
I remember reading Natiinal Geographic
magazine in the1960s when Venice had bad
flooding, art treasures were damaged and
there was attempts to restore oil paintings, etc.
The thing I don't get entirely is that if the water level rises permanently, the barrier has to always be up as well or the sea level inside the lagoon will rise, meaning that no ships bigger than those that already fit through the locks can enter the city, so at one point the barrier has to be up 24/7 or Venice will drown
It's all nonsense quite frankly. The rising sea levels will obviously inundate the land either side of the barriers anyway. The projections for sea level rises are utterly terrifying. All you have to do is look at Oceanic Palaeontology records to see the enormous changes in sea level that are linked to historic climate change. These changes, entirely natural, have been massively speeded up by human lifestyle choices and so what would have once taken 5000-7000 years could well happen in only a few hundred. That's the problem. We won't have time to adapt. Look at it this way...the last ice age was caused by a drop of 6 degrees celsius from the global average. Now think about what an increase of 6 degrees would do....goodbye polar ice caps...sea level rises by 100 metres....the sea level has changed by that amount in the past and will do again.
Does this channel belong to 'The B1M' ?
It sure does!
@@TheB1M reported imposter
@@Sb-er6bs no, it's original
Damnit Bond!
What a great load of content, I'll keep coming back to this channel 🤩
Enjoy the lies
I'm here after just watching a video that informed me that the NHS in the UK spent £37BN to make their COVID tracker app. After that, £7BN to save Venice sounds like a hell of a deal..
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I'll basically watch anything that your narrate tbh Another great channel btw!
Haha thanks!
this was already done. Why is it called tomorrows build? stop watching stupid videos
It was such a great idea, lets build a city on piers lol!
I guess we should implement something like this in Mumbai too.
Please cover the flooding problem of Mumbai city which happens every year in the rainy season.
Great content
Welcome to Italy, where everything seems perfect but in reality there is corruption everywhere
This is the first time I ever hear this about Italy. I never would've thought. Italy was such a dream country for me
@@vicnovicio i mean, if you come as a tourist you won’t have any problem, it’s not a dangerous place to live. The quality of life is super good (90% thanks to the food and nice places) but we are structurally and technologically behind in comparison to others. For example I still have a 5mb connection and I live in one of the best regions economically, thanks to the internet company that slowed fiber’s development
@@vicnovicio every country has pros and cons. If you have money in italy you will live like a god: best food (sorry for this 😂), awesome landscapes and infinite cities to visit. You won’t find a modern country tho
@@haramberinokripperino7770 i know! lol Your food is the best!
Isnt every country corrupt?
saving venice: 7 billion
hosting olympics: 50 bIlLiOn
Crazy how governments chose to spend our money huh?
Why not build a moat around Venice.
And then have a much smaller access point. 🤷♂️
but that's pretty much what venice has already, only it has three access points
smart!
My head just broke reading this comment. Do we understand that a "moat" is an encircling ditch typically filled with water? I keep shoveling the water to make a ditch, but it keeps flattening out all by itself! So frustrating!
There needs to be a water exchange to maintain the biosystem that thrives in there. That's why they thought of barriers, not a damn wall
@@blackkohi a dam wall with barriers is what I'm getting at
I'm always reminded of the author Robert Benchleys tongue in cheek response to his agent when arriving in Venice for the first time....'Streets full of water....Please advise '...
The city was literally supported on cushions of water under the ground and when drainage increased, the city sinking was exacerbated. I have a reference book about this.
i fear that these things will be ON for the whole year in the future.
They won't there is no sea level rise, just models predicting it. Still hasn't been observed.
@@fareshajjar1208 we are currently on track to 8 feet of sea level rise by 2100, not accounting for any of the 12 feedback loops already triggered. More likely to be around 25-30 feet
@@danielstory2761 Those are computer model projections. There is no observable sea level rise except what has been happening in an orderly fashion since the end of the ice age with is tiny. Computer models have been wrong about every single prediction made in climate science thus far. In 1989 they told us the ice caps would be gone by now. They are just models. A computer model is wrong 80% of the time about the track of a hurricane 1 week out. How on earth would you think computer models would be able to predict anything 50 years out?
@@fareshajjar1208 tell that to the citizens of Venice. Even if everything you say is correct with your claim, it’s undeniably clear that the flooding in the city has become a recent problem and doesn’t seem to end in the future. Your discourse is the main issue in preventing us to salvage a city in desperation.
@@LifeWithParole The city is sinking and has been for hundreds of years. This sinking was recorded before any cars existed in the world.
Love technology but corruption needs to be addressed with these as we need to think of ways to roll out protection systems across board probably at shorter notice in the future given flooding increases recently.
It wouldn't be Italian if it wasn't complicated, corrupt and questionable.
Should have put the Dutch in charge; they've been efficiently and effectively solving flooding problems for centuries
Exactly my thought, the mosaic barricades already seem to be rusting like a 70s Alfa Romeo. 😂
Asking a country who doesn’t really like us and tries to hinder us in any way they can to solve one of the major national security problems we face?
Nope I think I’ll trade some corruption and bureaucracy in exchange for handling this exclusively within our borders thank you very much!
P.S. if you wanna look for corruption and questionable decisions you can take a good look at you government, as an American I don’t think you have much of a reason to look down on other countries, fix your damn problems first!!!
@@plasticpinocchio247 Look who’s talking.... an American! 🤣🤣🤣 The f are you talking about. ‘A country that doesnt like you...’ Jesus, what a dummy...
No, thanks. We have been brilliantly dealing with hydraulic engineering since the times of Julius Caesar........
@@boontjes5528 Predictable response, after all you’re Dutch...
I was in Venice back in 1980 just a short time after the filming of Moonraker, the city was flooded then.
I remember reading about raising Venice versus building a sea barrier and thought the sea barrier is more costly in the long run and more problematic as well. At least with the idea of raising structures and filling underneath, you reduce tear down costs and you already invested in equipment that can raise the city again. Not only that, other cities may pay for the use of your equipment and help get your expenses in the black after a certain number of contracts.
Ideas are one thing, but reality is a different beast. Whatever you imagined in your mind can fail in the face of a real world test. So, in spite of our imaginations, we have to account for real world experiences, as well as their successes and failures. If it works, keep it; if it fails, improve on it, and do better next time,
Italy in a nutshell-- "It may not be a perfect solution, but it works."...more or less...
Per Scripps, Venice and that whole part of Italy is subsiding (sinking) at a rate of 16 inches per century and ocean levels per NOAA are rising 12 inches per century. Both reasons for flooding are wholly natural plate tectonics and cyclic worldwide ice ages followed by worldwide "warm ages" that cause ocean levels to fluctuate 1,200 feet / every 15,000 years. Bottom line, that part of Italy is in trouble.
Sea levels are not rising.
7:25 The point is that the MOSE had to be invisible. The Thames barrier and the dutch monumental pieces of engineering would ruin Venice lagoon seesight. So to all the people writing in the comments "they should have asked the Dutch", part of the answer is: they have looked at what have been done in the Netherlands, and they decided to develop another solution.
‘Looking at’ and ‘asking the’ Dutch are two very different things. The delta works are just one aspect in our water defense systems.
Please note that the map showing the position of the barriers is incorrect. Chioggia is at the southern entrance and not in the middle, this is where Malamocco should be.
The Large hadron collider did cost 7.5 billion Eur... But those yellow underwater metal bricks are amazing too!
Italian and Corruption, thing that can't be separated
of course they invented the mafia lol
And a greedy church in the centre...of their country.
The solution is to put an end to the italian unitary state. So you can free the severls populations currently living under this banana republic.
Lombards,Tuscans,Venetians, for example, could express their potential once again.
Until they are ''italian citziens'' they wil be the joke of Europe.
@@mistermood4164 The Sicilians invented the Mafia.
Not Lombards or Venetians,Tuscans etc...
Just a reminder that the dutch offered to build a new delta werken for venice but italy refused saying they could handle it themselfs.
The problem is not the design though. The real problem is all the corruption that cannot be avoided. I doubt a Dutch construction company would come to build it. They would just design it and make the Italians build it. The fundamental problem thus stays.
just a reminder, dutch engineers said that this project is brillant
Venice is also sinking on its own as well, its not all Global warming
Dont come on this fake news channel and be talking truth, your f'ing up the narrative.
@@darrenc3439 Ok...cool. By the way you droped your tin foil hat.
That's impressive and clever!
Out of the corner of my eye the thumbnail of this video looked like a snake. Ancient snake-detection circuits activated!
YES, the mafia still is a problem.
This is anti-Italian discrimination
@@Yano5151 how?
Not really mafia but curruption, political and economic interest.. Curruption is everywhere, not just an italian problem. Better use proper terms and yes, corruption is a huge problem
@@shadow6687 Government corruption, worse than the original Mafia
@@Yano5151 the Yakuza and the Triads are also still a problem.
Ah Venice the city that has been fighting to not go underwater since the 400's AD
"Authorities kind of didn't think to switch it on". Sounds Italian.
You'd think after spending that much on a flood defence system, they'd just use sensors to detect tidal height and adjust accordingly.
wait this isn't the B1M channel?
6:06
Isn't the system fully deployable within 30 minutes? They had time to react what were they doing?