How the Lord works! Just experienced the very same situation Sunday, soul winning and in the evening service. This sermon encouraged and strengthened my resolve in the truth of Gods word. Great sermon!
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Peter Ruckman), hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte(Samuel C. Gipp), and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
This is a great sermon. It further shows us how unfathomably strong Jesus Christ is. The pain he suffered for us can not be comprehended. Humble yourself in front of the Lord God almighty for the price paid for your sins is unparalleled in the universe. Jesus Christ is our Saviour. Praise and all glory to the Lord.
Thank you for faithfully preaching truth. Well done Pastor McMurtry. I have been afraid to bring up this subject in my IFB church because it is so controversial and as a result never preached on.
Powerful sermon! You're right, I don't remember this ever being taught at my old IFB churches. I do remember being told the "it is finished" argument against the clear scriptures.
Wow! Amen Pastor I just listened to this again bec I couldn’t understand the first time! Praise our wonderful Lord and Savior! Thank you Pastor for standing true to God’s Holy Word! Your courage to “divorce the old battle axe “ is so necessary because you are set free to preach God’s Word in Spirit and in Truth!! Love and prayers from the Jersey Shore I can’t wait to hear all of you NIFB Pastors preach at the Fire breathing conference at steadfast Baptist Church in November. Gods blessings to all you men of God who are really on the front lines Thank you again for your many hours of study and hard preaching. Many people are listening and praying for you all. Please when you are deciding where to have another conference. Come East! We need you here in NJ!!
You have to call Jesus a liar to support your whacked theory Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Did Jesus lie to fit your wacky theory ??????
@Michael Murphy in manlys sermon he says he never heard this preached before so he lied about knowing this doctrine then preached against it. Also this is the same person that teaches that God didn't die on the cross, that hell's basically a sauna, and that judas got the most people saved amongst the disciples.
As I understand it, Jesus died on the cross for our reconciliation to God and He resurrected for our salvation. In the book of Acts, the Apostles spent most of their time getting people to believe that the Lord resurrected, not that He died for them. Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Good preaching - be blessed!
Keep reading. Ephesians 4:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
It is also called paradise Luke 23:43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. So you dont believe in Abraham's bosom when it is clearly talked about i scriptures? Luke 16:19-31 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
I'll tell you what the issue is, our generation has seen the passion of the christ and it desensitized us.. So we think the crucifixion wasn't that bad.. especially compared to burning in hell.. not me.. I'll put my faith on the work he finished on the cross..
I teach that Jesus went to hell because that's the Bible said. It's crystal clear.Acts 2: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. the pastor of that church said to me "don't preach that" I am confused if he actually believes the Bible. And I am thankful for that because I don't need to go to that horrible place. That's why I truly love that verse.
Whether Jesus went to hell or not is not the main issue.. the main issue is when you guys say "Jesus had to suffer in hell to pay for the second death".. That's heresy. There was power in the blood, the preaching of the cross is the way of salvation.. His physical death paid the full payment.. The bottom line is, Hell is obviously worse to suffer.. so your taking away from the physical suffering.. so which are you trusting? You literally said at the 8:35 mark that Jesus physical death was not him dying for us or tasting death for every man.. he took on flesh so he could die. How could you say his physical death was not enough..
You are denying that Jesus was actually dead with what you are saying. No one is taking away from the cross when they teach that Jesus was dead for 3 days. Don't take away from the cross, but don't take away from the death either.
@@GiveMeLibertyBaptist you are a fool, and you’re slowly being exposed to take away from his physical death is to take away from the cross and it’s also to take away from his death stop adding spiritual death to death
I will admit that out of all of the NIFB preachers I have the most respect for you because your spirit has a different demeanor than the rest. However dispensations are Biblical and thank the Lord he opened my eyes to this important truth. You will never be able to properly understand the Bible until you realize there are dispensations and you must properly divide them. 1 Samuel 28:8-15 is absolute proof that OT Saints were underground in the OT. These scriptures state five times that Samuel "cometh up" out of the earth. The only exceptions are people like Enoch and Elijah who never died. OT Saints only had their sins covered, when Jesus died and rose again they were paid for. Please visit my channel because I have detailed videos proving this.
No offense but out of all the people who hate the New IFB you seem to be the most likely one to be taking prescription drugs next to Macgregor. Dispensationalism is still wrong.
I noticed you added a word to acts 2: 24 saying Jesus was loosed (from) the pains of death. I believe Jesus went to hell and was in paradise both at the same time. Remember he is God the Son. So being equal to God the Father, he is present everywhere at all times. The Son of God was in the fire with the 3 Hebrew children, and loosed the pains of their death, because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. They didn’t smell of smoke, and not a hair of their head was singed.
Jed Thomas it's basically a secular college. There isn't anything Christian about it. If you are going for a secular degree it might be fine and if you live by them it might be ok to go there. Just don't go there because they call themselves Christian or for ministry training.
I hope you come around on this.. we are not saying he didnt go to hell.. we are saying his blood made the full atonement.. he was dead when he gave up the ghost. Whatever his ghost did during the 3 days is not 100% clear. But it is clear the blood brought remission of sins.. I believe the work was finished on the cross and hell had no power over him. He was separated from the Father for the first time in all eternity, that would be the pains of death I think. Stop saying he had to pay for our sins by burning in hell. It's wrong. Stop saying he had to die the 2nd death in order to truly die.. it's wrong. In all sincerity if you dont harden your neck, and repent of that heresy, you will absolutely have a renewed appreciation for the cross and shed blood rather than the burnt offering.this do in remembrance of me, (the bread and body broken, the drink and blood shed). Hence why Anderson's croud does not treat the Lords Supper right but rather use it to find the Judas. He doesn't reverence the body and blood but rather the burnt offering. The second death is eternal. If Jesus died the 2nd death please explain how he rose from the dead and died the 2nd death. The 2nd death is eternal. If you dint suffer for eternity then you haven't died the 2nd death.. I think it's more right to be in the side that says the death of Christ was different because it was God dying it was Gods blood.
Wow, Jesus didn't just die for me, Jesus went to hell for me in my place so that I could have everlasting life. I am so glad that I finally accepted the truth that is Jesus Christ and when I look back before I believed I can see how he was calling me.
VERY WRONG MESSAGE! very very bad. you know 100% that the word "hell" in the kjv means different things depending on CONTEXT. JUST LIKE THE WORD "DEVIL" IN THE KJV!! pastor anderson even admits this but then for some weird reason ignores the difference between paradise and sheol
haha that made me laugh a hugged offering. When speaking about this I said, when they killed the sacrifice they didn't just dump the carcass and bury it!
Tommy, one final thing I wanted to mention. When Jesus died on the cross he said "it is finished". In the Greek it means "paid in full". He wouldnt need to go to hell after that and continue to pay for our sins.
Wrong,wrong, wrong!So Simply put...hell, in its proper interpretation, depending on the context, simply is THE GRAVE!!! how in your mixed up mentality could you even consider our Holiest, Almighty God ever needing to step in to "hell"?! If you study a little you'll see the grave has different names, again depending on the context, for example. Gehenna, sheol and suchwere ways to describe the GRAVE! There's more to be said but suffice for now...pls do your homework people!!! God bless.
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL. The KJV says lots of things. It says "thou shalt not kill", but God killed. It says that jesus was killed and then crucified after he was already dead (Acts 5:30), it says that God is pitiful James 5:11 etc
Finally someone has the fortitude to preach on this. This is a clear biblical teaching.
How the Lord works! Just experienced the very same situation Sunday, soul winning and in the evening service. This sermon encouraged and strengthened my resolve in the truth of Gods word. Great sermon!
Jesus Himself speaks of where He is going
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Paradise in Hades like Luke 16 where Abraham & the Rich man were separated by a gulf.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Peter Ruckman), hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte(Samuel C. Gipp), and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
This is a great sermon. It further shows us how unfathomably strong Jesus Christ is. The pain he suffered for us can not be comprehended. Humble yourself in front of the Lord God almighty for the price paid for your sins is unparalleled in the universe. Jesus Christ is our Saviour. Praise and all glory to the Lord.
Thank you for faithfully preaching truth. Well done Pastor McMurtry. I have been afraid to bring up this subject in my IFB church because it is so controversial and as a result never preached on.
Hands-down the BEST sermon I have ever heard on this subject! Thank you so much Pastor M!
Powerful sermon! You're right, I don't remember this ever being taught at my old IFB churches. I do remember being told the "it is finished" argument against the clear scriptures.
Wow! Amen Pastor
I just listened to this again bec I couldn’t understand the first time! Praise our wonderful Lord and Savior! Thank you Pastor for standing true to God’s Holy Word! Your courage to “divorce the old battle axe “ is so necessary because you are set free to preach God’s Word in Spirit and in Truth!! Love and prayers from the Jersey Shore
I can’t wait to hear all of you NIFB Pastors preach at the Fire breathing conference at steadfast Baptist Church in November. Gods blessings to all you men of God who are really on the front lines
Thank you again for your many hours of study and hard preaching. Many people are listening and praying for you all.
Please when you are deciding where to have another conference. Come East! We need you here in NJ!!
Excellent message. Great job in explaining all of the opposing arguments.
You have to call Jesus a liar to support your whacked theory
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Did Jesus lie to fit your wacky theory ??????
@@THERAPTURECOMESI think you missed this part of the sermon where it was clearly broken down. Christ was speaking of the trinity.
Amen! Learned some new things. Great job, praise God.
Your such a hypocrite! You say amen to this sermon but condemn pastor shelley for preaching this and you call it heretical!
@Michael Murphy in manlys sermon he says he never heard this preached before so he lied about knowing this doctrine then preached against it. Also this is the same person that teaches that God didn't die on the cross, that hell's basically a sauna, and that judas got the most people saved amongst the disciples.
Anyone that reads Perry’s comment here and still defends him is nothing more than a useful idiot.
Jesus said to the thief on the cross, today i will be with you in paradise. Is hell also paradise?
As I understand it, Jesus died on the cross for our reconciliation to God and He resurrected for our salvation. In the book of Acts, the Apostles spent most of their time getting people to believe that the Lord resurrected, not that He died for them.
Romans 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Good preaching - be blessed!
Acts 4:31
Ephesians 4:9-10
1 Peter 3:18-19
Eph 4:8
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. He did this from on high!
Keep reading.
Ephesians 4:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Another awesome sermon!!!
Awesome sermon Pastor! May the doctrine of Abrahams Bosom Rest In Peace.
It is also called paradise
Luke 23:43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
So you dont believe in Abraham's bosom when it is clearly talked about i scriptures?
Luke 16:19-31 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Excellent sermon, Pastor. Thank you
I'll tell you what the issue is, our generation has seen the passion of the christ and it desensitized us.. So we think the crucifixion wasn't that bad.. especially compared to burning in hell.. not me.. I'll put my faith on the work he finished on the cross..
I never saw the movie, and I think the crucifixion was worse than I can imagine. Jesus still died though.
I teach that Jesus went to hell because that's the Bible said. It's crystal clear.Acts 2: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
the pastor of that church said to me "don't preach that"
I am confused if he actually believes the Bible.
And I am thankful for that because I don't need to go to that horrible place.
That's why I truly love that verse.
Amen!
keep it up pastor!
Thank you , learned allot
Dispensationalism is destroyed as soon as McMurtry gets behind the pulpit
Great 👍🏼 Amen!
And Stephen could see into heaven from earth before he died don't forget that example too :)
jeff moore that is an excellent example
Whether Jesus went to hell or not is not the main issue.. the main issue is when you guys say "Jesus had to suffer in hell to pay for the second death".. That's heresy. There was power in the blood, the preaching of the cross is the way of salvation.. His physical death paid the full payment.. The bottom line is, Hell is obviously worse to suffer.. so your taking away from the physical suffering.. so which are you trusting? You literally said at the 8:35 mark that Jesus physical death was not him dying for us or tasting death for every man.. he took on flesh so he could die. How could you say his physical death was not enough..
You are denying that Jesus was actually dead with what you are saying. No one is taking away from the cross when they teach that Jesus was dead for 3 days. Don't take away from the cross, but don't take away from the death either.
@@GiveMeLibertyBaptist hmm seems here your making it a gospel issue. Denying Jesus death? That's a pretty serious denial.
@@recon0911 not even close. Hilarious try.
@@GiveMeLibertyBaptist you are a fool, and you’re slowly being exposed to take away from his physical death is to take away from the cross and it’s also to take away from his death stop adding spiritual death to death
Jesus did not burn in Hell
Isaiah 55-8-9
who started this Doctrine that is the Question
I will admit that out of all of the NIFB preachers I have the most respect for you because your spirit has a different demeanor than the rest. However dispensations are Biblical and thank the Lord he opened my eyes to this important truth. You will never be able to properly understand the Bible until you realize there are dispensations and you must properly divide them. 1 Samuel 28:8-15 is absolute proof that OT Saints were underground in the OT. These scriptures state five times that Samuel "cometh up" out of the earth. The only exceptions are people like Enoch and Elijah who never died. OT Saints only had their sins covered, when Jesus died and rose again they were paid for. Please visit my channel because I have detailed videos proving this.
No offense but out of all the people who hate the New IFB you seem to be the most likely one to be taking prescription drugs next to Macgregor. Dispensationalism is still wrong.
I noticed you added a word to acts 2: 24 saying Jesus was loosed (from) the pains of death. I believe Jesus went to hell and was in paradise both at the same time. Remember he is God the Son. So being equal to God the Father, he is present everywhere at all times. The Son of God was in the fire with the 3 Hebrew children, and loosed the pains of their death, because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. They didn’t smell of smoke, and not a hair of their head was singed.
Pastor McMurtry, I am a senior in high school, what are your thoughts on Wheaton college? I'd love a response, thanks.
Jed Thomas it's basically a secular college. There isn't anything Christian about it. If you are going for a secular degree it might be fine and if you live by them it might be ok to go there. Just don't go there because they call themselves Christian or for ministry training.
I hope you come around on this.. we are not saying he didnt go to hell.. we are saying his blood made the full atonement.. he was dead when he gave up the ghost. Whatever his ghost did during the 3 days is not 100% clear. But it is clear the blood brought remission of sins.. I believe the work was finished on the cross and hell had no power over him. He was separated from the Father for the first time in all eternity, that would be the pains of death I think. Stop saying he had to pay for our sins by burning in hell. It's wrong. Stop saying he had to die the 2nd death in order to truly die.. it's wrong. In all sincerity if you dont harden your neck, and repent of that heresy, you will absolutely have a renewed appreciation for the cross and shed blood rather than the burnt offering.this do in remembrance of me, (the bread and body broken, the drink and blood shed). Hence why Anderson's croud does not treat the Lords Supper right but rather use it to find the Judas. He doesn't reverence the body and blood but rather the burnt offering. The second death is eternal. If Jesus died the 2nd death please explain how he rose from the dead and died the 2nd death. The 2nd death is eternal. If you dint suffer for eternity then you haven't died the 2nd death.. I think it's more right to be in the side that says the death of Christ was different because it was God dying it was Gods blood.
8:29 you say exactly what you are arguing you never said. That Jesus had to burn in hell to pay for sin
Wow, Jesus didn't just die for me, Jesus went to hell for me in my place so that I could have everlasting life. I am so glad that I finally accepted the truth that is Jesus Christ and when I look back before I believed I can see how he was calling me.
Wow so Jesus physical death was not him tasting death for every man? Hmm
@@avocadotoast3680 OK so just be plain and clear you and your boy there and say that Jesus physical death, burial, and resurrection was not enough
VERY WRONG MESSAGE! very very bad. you know 100% that the word "hell" in the kjv means different things depending on CONTEXT. JUST LIKE THE WORD "DEVIL" IN THE KJV!! pastor anderson even admits this but then for some weird reason ignores the difference between paradise and sheol
The Passover was a burnt offering (picture of hell) not a hugged offering (made up Abraham’s bosom).
haha that made me laugh a hugged offering. When speaking about this I said, when they killed the sacrifice they didn't just dump the carcass and bury it!
Tommy, one final thing I wanted to mention. When Jesus died on the cross he said "it is finished". In the Greek it means "paid in full". He wouldnt need to go to hell after that and continue to pay for our sins.
You clearly did not listen to the message. I destroyed that argument.
Work on earth was finished, physical death. Now he had to die and rise again.
you believe Jesus went to hell? really? wow....sooo wrong
Wrong,wrong, wrong!So Simply put...hell, in its proper interpretation, depending on the context, simply is THE GRAVE!!! how in your mixed up mentality could you even consider our Holiest, Almighty God ever needing to step in to "hell"?! If you study a little you'll see the grave has different names, again depending on the context, for example. Gehenna, sheol and suchwere ways to describe the GRAVE! There's more to be said but suffice for now...pls do your homework people!!! God bless.
Derp...
Only the KJV says that jesus went to hell. If the NIV said this instead of the kjv, it would be unforgivable.
Derek Birmingham but the KJV does say He went to Hell. Therefore it is true.
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL. The KJV says lots of things. It says "thou shalt not kill", but God killed. It says that jesus was killed and then crucified after he was already dead (Acts 5:30), it says that God is pitiful James 5:11 etc
So you obviously just don't believe the Bible. No point in trying to help you out then.
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL. You know that's not true! Only a kjv only person would respond like that.
@@derekbirmingham2244 pitiful= full of pity, compassion. Slew and hanged on a tree= one action.