Sword & Buckler Wards from the Walpurgis Fechtbuch (MS I.33) HEMA

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  • The Michigan Medieval Combat Association's interpretation of the wards from the Walpurgis Fechtbuch, (Royal Armories Manuscript I.33), circa 1320ce Franconia, (Germany).
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    Thank you to Wiktenauer.com for providing these amazing scans.
    wiktenauer.com/wiki/Walpurgis...)
    Thank you to the Royal armories for generously working with the HEMA community.
    shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
    The ground was wet, and it was a very cold day :)

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  • @putitdownya8251
    @putitdownya8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Some advise to the channel, continue with a series which demonstrates these medieval fighting manuscripts using this video as a ref, good video quality, production and demonstrations. Keep it up 👏🏾

    • @gorbalsboy
      @gorbalsboy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Some advice for yourself, don't give unasked for advice

    • @ultimatevtgb7551
      @ultimatevtgb7551 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@gorbalsboy
      Some advice for you, people don't need permission to give an advice, grow a brain.

  • @MrDVSDuncan
    @MrDVSDuncan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nicely done. Thank your very much. As someone who has done this for several decades, this "felt" right.

  • @GoodandBasic
    @GoodandBasic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is better than what I was looking for. Not only do you present the wards in an easy to follow format, but the production quality is stellar. Thank you for this contribution to TH-cam.

  • @robertgotschall1246
    @robertgotschall1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd seen the paintings before but had no idea what they meant
    Thanks

  • @rags417
    @rags417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Years ago I made a card game about individual armed combat and used this reference plus a few others for details on guards, moves and defences. To this day I still haven't seen any game, PC, RPG or boardgame, that treats choosing the right opening stance as an important part of fighting.

    • @brummbar4468
      @brummbar4468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what about Kingdom Come: Deliverance?

    • @EdegKlein
      @EdegKlein 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brummbar4468я бы не сказал, что начальная стойка там имеет значение. Также, как и дистанция между тобой и противником. Отразить атаку противника можно буквально из любого положения, главное вовремя нажать на кнопку. Что касается твой атаки и проведения связок ударов и комбинаций, то и тут стойка играет второстепенную роль. Чтобы эффективно начать комбинацию, желательно будет в момент перед этим поменять стойку с любой нынешней на нужную. Короче, хоть в KCD боевая система и интересная, но это не подходящий пример.
      Другое дело - Hellish quart. В этой игре фехтование куда более продуманное и сложное. Там стойки действительно имеют значение, каждая из них имеет свой потенциал. + они работают вместе с дистанцией. Дистанция там тоже важна.
      Надеюсь, переводчик не подведёт)

  • @florianamann7978
    @florianamann7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A clubmate and I started doing i33 at my club now too and while we are not completly agreeing with you guys in some details, the raised eyebrow in secunda 0:55 is just great and will be honored!

  • @Stormin_Norman_1066
    @Stormin_Norman_1066 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HOW AM I ONLY JUST NOW FINDING THIS?! Awesome work!

  • @talleman1
    @talleman1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cannot say how much this warms my Michigan heart.

  • @Willoops
    @Willoops 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hell yeah! Im from Michigan. Go Green!!

  • @migueltorres1949
    @migueltorres1949 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great demonstration and choice of music, brothers.

  • @WGlennNorman
    @WGlennNorman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An excellent presentation. All techniques were well demonstrated and I intend to return to this presentation often. Great choice of soundtrack.

  • @MrHenning3000
    @MrHenning3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job. Please more of it! Greetings from germany

  • @stephanieeaton449
    @stephanieeaton449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. I love this. Also fantastic outfits. :)

  • @JohnVander70
    @JohnVander70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, and well done.

  • @ppd3557
    @ppd3557 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was amazing!

  • @Lawmay
    @Lawmay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! Was searching for I.33 stuff on youtube and came across your channel. I live in Rochester Hills, might hafto make the trip down to Livonia one of these weekends.

  • @TwentythreePER
    @TwentythreePER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this video. I have been interested in I.33 and I have seen other similar videos and yours looks and sounds great. Well done. I would like to learn some of this myself and will have to see if I can find something near me.

  • @jimmynicolas4602
    @jimmynicolas4602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super ! 👍😀

  • @martinagerton6375
    @martinagerton6375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video! Can we see fifth ward from the other side?

  • @florianamann7978
    @florianamann7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Halleluja!

  • @ZemplinTemplar
    @ZemplinTemplar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent presentation. Keep it up. :-)
    Did you also do the secondary, Obsesseo guards / wards from MS I.33 ? I'd love to see those in your interpretation.

  • @kimblemojimble7967
    @kimblemojimble7967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At first glance, stance at 1:10 looks bad, basically flat footed and on one leg. However when pausing/rewatching, his back leg is bent at the knee so its not so bad. In future, I recommend you film with the knees/legs fully in view

    • @churchboy4609
      @churchboy4609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's your take on 4th ward, the one after the ward in your timestamp? I can't picture any circumstance where you'd want to really stay in that position

  • @RoyalArmouries
    @RoyalArmouries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Noice

  • @grailchaser
    @grailchaser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any chance of showing us your interpretation of 5th Guard from the other side?

    • @michiganmedieval
      @michiganmedieval  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly, I had to contort my hand pretty awkwardly to get the blade to be on the correct angle, at the correct height, to match up with the illustration.
      When I’m sparring using this guard, I drop my hand much lower, near my belt.
      I suspect this will vary a bit from person to person, with different heights, body types and levels of wrist flexibility.
      Good luck!

  • @NinePillar
    @NinePillar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What parts of Michigan is your association located? I'm in the UP, Marquette area, and we're regrettably starved of any HEMA activities up here. I've done epee fencing with my dad growing up and some saber fencing in college. I've always felt fencing was more akin to LARPing 🤮 compared to HEMA.

    • @michiganmedieval
      @michiganmedieval  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We’re in Metro Detroit.
      Olympic sport fencing or kendo training can make good HEMA fighters, if applied in the right ways to the source material! Don’t lose heart! 👍

    • @nateskinner97
      @nateskinner97 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's at least two clubs in upper michigan; both are college clubs with one at NMU and one at LSSU.

    • @NinePillar
      @NinePillar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nateskinner97 I'm in Marquette so I'll take a look into it. Good lookin' out

  • @glennericnaylor276
    @glennericnaylor276 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where did you get the swords and bucklers???

  • @kenanacampora
    @kenanacampora ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job men. And now...you have insulted my wife. Honor demands a sword and buckler contest! To arms.

  • @wastelander3116
    @wastelander3116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oooooh, I want those shoes that the guy at the end has on! Where did you get them dude?

    • @michiganmedieval
      @michiganmedieval  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’re from a company called Viking Leathercrafts!
      th-cam.com/video/qlL0czYhAFQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aMUOtk7Yd2PekoV7

  • @danielpalacio9146
    @danielpalacio9146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me encantó este video espero q suban muchos más, excelente canal lo máximo

  • @victorwelkin9136
    @victorwelkin9136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The footwork in the art looks very different than that demonstrated. Do you believe the artist took license?

    • @michiganmedieval
      @michiganmedieval  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, we’re not entirely content with the footwork we demonstrated in this video. At some point we might go back and reshoot an addendum video with what more we’ve learned in the time since we’ve filmed this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @victorwelkin9136
      @victorwelkin9136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michiganmedieval I enjoyed it nonetheless. Someone was claiming they walked differently because of their lack of supportive shoes. It was their explanation behind the seemingly unusual stances.

  • @jaggedscythe-nf6qg
    @jaggedscythe-nf6qg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm in Michigan, where is this located

    • @michiganmedieval
      @michiganmedieval  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your interest!
      Please check out MichiganMedieval.com
      For more details.
      We’re in Metro Detroit

  • @Macaco23284
    @Macaco23284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saxon vibes.⚔🛡

  • @Sfourtytwo
    @Sfourtytwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No reason to train form on these if you believe the actual manual:
    Note how in general all fencers, or all men who hold a sword in hand, even when ignorant in the art of fencing, make use of these seven guards, on which we have seven verses:...

  • @Maarrcco
    @Maarrcco ปีที่แล้ว

    ¿Que tratado es?

    • @ryanwood6006
      @ryanwood6006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MS i.33

  • @ortwinvomschildberg4717
    @ortwinvomschildberg4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why standing on the toes...doesn't makes sense at all in fighting

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's how people walked in the Medieval period, hard leather soled shoes didn't exist, so walking with the ball of your foot first helped to prevent you from committing your balance to an unstable or unsafe foothold.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @mr. happy Nope. See my earlier comment. Spend some time walking in medieval footwear and you will understand.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @mr. happy the information I was citing is from this video, but it is listed as outdated so perhaps not everything is correct. th-cam.com/video/EszwYNvvCjQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @moxigen
    @moxigen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i doubt the stance should be taken out of the book too literal.
    look like deadly mistakes too me.
    i like to go for knee cuts n thrust tho...

  • @GL_UA
    @GL_UA 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Halleluja!