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  • @VicodinElmo
    @VicodinElmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +774

    The fact that young couples could just choose a house and come to the council for a mortgage is the most surprising thing to me!

    • @vanrutgar6536
      @vanrutgar6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      And how polite staff are
      In fact how everyone talks in the video
      Now it's gutteral
      Society is degrading

    • @mel816
      @mel816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Not from the UK myself, but I wonder if the council actually funded the mortgage or were they just a mortgage broker?

    • @unnamedchannel1237
      @unnamedchannel1237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@vanrutgar6536 you think they may have been polite because they new the camera was on them ?

    • @DavidPaulMorgan
      @DavidPaulMorgan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      when I started at a local council - we used to manage the MIRAS mortgage system. Mortgage Interest Relief at Source - yes, council mortgages.

    • @davidkmatthews
      @davidkmatthews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DavidPaulMorgan That's intriguing! Do you mean for people to purchase their council house under the "Right To Buy" scheme? If so, I was under the impression that the ability do so came into effect in late 1980, yet this film is apparently from the year before....?

  • @TweedSuit
    @TweedSuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +989

    1979: Will WORD PROCESSORS start a HOME WORKING revolution?
    2020: No. But a global pandemic will.
    2023: Back in the office again…

    • @twisterwiper
      @twisterwiper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Haha, true 😄

    • @csharp3884
      @csharp3884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yup, in 1979, they are 40 years too early. Sad to think people spent their whole careers doing work in an office when they could have been doing it at home

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's the technology that allowed it to happen. If it was all still manual, work would grind to a halt.

    • @csharp3884
      @csharp3884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @DnB and Psy Production I would argue it’s less motivating to work in the office BECAUSE of so many people to interact with. Too many opportunities for side conversation and spontaneity to ruin work flow. Sometimes you just want to get your work done and not be involved with office politics

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first thought reading the title when it popped up in my feed.

  • @AntGeezer
    @AntGeezer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    I love how he had to write a bit of code to change one word. Just wonderful.

    • @therealcaldini
      @therealcaldini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Still an extremely efficient way to do things. Tools such as sed and awk on Unix systems can be very powerful if you know how to use them. I still use Vi when I can and its command to replace a word is very similar.

    • @tralphstreet
      @tralphstreet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@therealcaldini Please tell me you're not actually using vi, and are instead using something more modern, like vim or neovim.

    • @therealcaldini
      @therealcaldini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tralphstreet To be fair, I think on most modern systems vi is an alias of vim isn’t it?

    • @tralphstreet
      @tralphstreet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@therealcaldini Yes.

    • @DavidPaulMorgan
      @DavidPaulMorgan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@therealcaldini they reminded me of the old visicalc commands and also the vi editor!

  • @edum.6353
    @edum.6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    the fact this is from 1979 is mindblowing, everything so precise and on point

    • @animatewithdermot
      @animatewithdermot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's striking alright. Often these old pieces are incredibly silly, but this one is eerie.

    • @brucemanly
      @brucemanly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Apart from that micro typewriter. It looks horrible.

    • @volo870
      @volo870 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brucemanly Chorded keyboards never ceased to exist. Micro typewriter was deemed a pretty decent system.
      Nowadays, using a chorded keyboard app for the touchscreen devices one improves input speed.

  • @alanpods______8260
    @alanpods______8260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    "It's the biggest aid to totalitarianism you could ever come across, if you think about it... On the other hand its the greatest boon to decentralization and people fulfilling themselves" Wow! How perfectly predicted.

    • @twitchygiraffe4636
      @twitchygiraffe4636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you count people shaming others for what they think on facebook totalitarianism, then well predicted mate!!!!

    • @TaylerKnox
      @TaylerKnox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s harsh.

    • @TaylerKnox
      @TaylerKnox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Saint Ratus thanks.

    • @eliteneo_gta7035
      @eliteneo_gta7035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      looking at you, Metaverse.... 😏

    • @mastergoogoo5854
      @mastergoogoo5854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the rare occasions the bbc was telling the truth. No doubt if someone said something like that today if would be labelled disinformation, misinformation or malinformation. The person saying it would be labelled as either: extreme right, conspiracy theorist, climate change denier, Russian spy, domestic terrorist or/ and anti vaxxer today. They would also be arrested by the thought police and brought to the ministry of love. Orwell would be turning in his grave. I certainly do not consent to this evil future the satanic elites have planned for us.

  • @SwazersC
    @SwazersC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Pretty impressive considering this was in the late 70s & they were already talking about voice recognition tech & working from home remotely. The dude talking about consoles in the home was on the money for sure & his comments on getting it wrong & tyranny were scaringly accurate. I was born in 72. As kids, we fantasised about the kind of tech that's now taken for granted.

    • @Dendroapsis
      @Dendroapsis ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He even seemed to predict the internet at 7:06

  • @engineeredlifeform
    @engineeredlifeform 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    I had a massive argument with my Technology teacher in 1982 or '83. I'd said I was interested in being a computer programmer, he said 'no point, all the computer programs we'll ever need will have been written within five years'. I'd argued that computers would become ubiquitous, as they were getting smaller and cheaper, he said we just wouldn't need them that much. The cellphone in my pocket is more powerful and has more storage than the room full of computers I looked after around 1990,....

    • @TheBroz
      @TheBroz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I remember an IT teacher of mine in the mid 90s who was convinced that software would write itself by the time I was grown up.

    • @DM-kv9kj
      @DM-kv9kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Mere centuries ago everyone was saying slavery could never be stopped and was just "human nature". Basically, people haven't a clue what they're talking about but love to feel like they do and anything can change radically if we care enough to make it happen.

    • @meh3247
      @meh3247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I took a different approach, by demonstrating to the Teachers that I knew more than they did at the time. My "work experience" was writing computer aided electronic circuitry design software for the local college.
      I was exploited by the clueless.

    • @SimirJohnson
      @SimirJohnson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Those who can, do. Those who cant, teach.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@SimirJohnson I’m assuming your surgeon became proficient by just picking up that scalpel and practising on everyone? I hope you certainly fly no planes: be difficult finding your pilot without having being taught to fly.

  • @FoxDren
    @FoxDren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    People where successfully working from home even back then yet managers still refuse to accept it

    • @Maximustard
      @Maximustard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If I’m paying someone’s wages, they would need to work, at work

    • @scottishwildcat
      @scottishwildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@Maximustard Then you're missing out on a lot of hard-working, unstressed, self-motivated people, and paying a lot of unnecessary office rent and utility bills. Your choice.

    • @meh3247
      @meh3247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maximustard One cursory glance at your profile page here reveals you to be a follower of these channels: GBNews, Trump, PragerU, The Right Media, Mr Reagan, Ben Shapiro, WokeMedia, RedPill comedy, and a whole host of football accounts.
      Surmising from this, I think everyone whose IQ is greater than Pi, can ignore you on the grounds that you're a right wing troll just trying to gain attention in a youtube comment thread because the overwhelming majority of real life humans in your immediate vicinity quite rightly ignore you and your absurd views.
      Which is what I'm going to do now, safe in the knowledge that you're not an employer of anyone - you lack the ability to employ critical thinking.
      Cheerio, lonely boy.

    • @shaunsteele8244
      @shaunsteele8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@Maximustard why does it matter what their physical location is, if they're doing the work and getting the job done?

    • @wcg66
      @wcg66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Management hasn’t evolved since the start of the industrial revolution.

  • @DeusExAstra
    @DeusExAstra ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This video is so prophetic, it's remarkable. It's like they were getting ready for 2020 way back then and didnt realize it.

    • @moogfooger
      @moogfooger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ya, they realizedit alright

  • @Nightweaver1
    @Nightweaver1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was made the year I was born. It's amazing to see just how far computing has come in the last 43 years, from cumbersome central hard disks and awkward, slow word processors to supercomputers you hold in your hand and connection speeds so fast you can download the entire Library of Congress in a few seconds.

  • @davidkmatthews
    @davidkmatthews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Brilliant bit of history! The "F International" company referred to actually started up in the early 1960s, employing mostly female programmers working from home. They built up a strong worldwide reputation for excellence.
    I seem to recall that using a telephone in 1979 cost around four pence per minute (16 pence in today's money), so I imagine they'd have to use the dial-in connection sparingly in order to avoid racking up hefty bills with Buzby!

    • @caimin15221522
      @caimin15221522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For those interested:
      F International was a British freelance software and systems services company, founded as Freelance Programmers in England in 1962, by Dame Stephanie Shirley; she was involved in the company until she retired in 1993. The company was renamed in 1974 to F International. In 1988 the company was renamed again, to The FI Group, and later as Xansa plc. Xansa plc was acquired by the French company now known as Sopra Steria in 2007.
      From Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_International

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As soon as I saw the reference to uploading work by modem, the phone bills were the first thing that came to mind! They were expensive enough in the late 80s (As an 8 year old who’d just learned his best friends number quickly found out!) so the notion of using a modem in the late 70s with bit rates in the 10s/sec sounds pretty darn pricey! 😳
      With that - And my love of cycling in mind - I think it more likely I’d have printed off or saved the work to tape at home and then run it into the office. With my documents often exceeding the 50KB mark, using SneakerNet would be both quicker, and cheaper! 😇

    • @mancerrss
      @mancerrss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They we're all WFH and Freelancing, even before everybody and they mommas are working from home.
      I wonder what happened to this Freelancing company that is way way way ahead of it's time.

    • @GeeEee75
      @GeeEee75 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Women of the 1960s and 70s were the equivalent of offshore workers today. They could legally be paid less than a man for the same work.

  • @tommypyatt4062
    @tommypyatt4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I aspire to one day have a well equipped kitchen, two children, and a bubble memory terminal.

    • @philip-at-tube
      @philip-at-tube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @Hollywood041
      @Hollywood041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I cannot even properly imagine a well-equipped kitchen.

    • @fionamessenger7660
      @fionamessenger7660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      After all, it's the best thing that 's happened since The Pill. Please.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently I only have a partially equipped kitchen.

    • @volo870
      @volo870 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having a well-equipped kitchen is impossible!
      You either run out of money or kitchen.

  • @effess8698
    @effess8698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    5:05 "Just look at the French..." presumably he's referring to Minitel, a precursor to the world wide web, which was being rolled out around the time of this programme, and amazingly survived until 2012

    • @UserWalterbe
      @UserWalterbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have used a Minitel a while in early 2000's in Belgium. There where used by deaf people to make contact. I was acting as a gateway for deaf people to make calls to hearing people and to translate between them. That service still exist but is webbased now. Minitel service was a long time available alongside the webchat option but was eventually terminated because nobody used it anymore. And hardly anyone remembered how it worked at the end.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The vast difference in uptake between Frances Minitel and the UKs Prestel systems is an excellent demonstration of the pros/cons of public and private sector implementation of new technology.
      Minitel was provided free to anybody with telephone service, whilst British subscribers wanting Prestel had to fork out about £450 (About £2,800 in 2022 money) in equipment alone, and that doesn’t even cover the additional subscriptions to access Prestel, and additional charges that could accidentally be incurred whilst browsing! (Prestel supported a „Chargeable page” feature).
      With this in mind, it’s probably not surprising that Minitel lasted thirty years, whilst Prestel - Though allegedly more durable and versatile than the former - Barely lasted thirty *months*! 🇬🇧💸🙃

    • @GeertDelmulle
      @GeertDelmulle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes indeed.

    • @davidrenton
      @davidrenton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dieseldragon6756 that is a disadvantage in it's self , having a 30 year system from the 80's onwards would be incredibly antiquated

  • @Vassilika1
    @Vassilika1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:57 thumbs up for the person who installed the plate, all screw heads in the same direction.... Thank you, I love it!

  • @alanjrobertson
    @alanjrobertson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    About halfway through they actually make some pretty good predictions about working from home and the Internet! The alternative keyboard not so much...

  • @leandrotami
    @leandrotami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I am really, really amazed at how current and foreshadowing this turned out to be. Programming remotely from
    home... in the 70s! The analysis of a society where remote work slowly becomes more and more common... I'm astonished

    • @Hollywood041
      @Hollywood041 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever seen this show, Star Trek? It's trippy man. They were all like "let's imagine what the future could look like given our understanding of technology today." And then there was this other one TNG, that went beyond tech and said "you know, our society would probably change too. I wonder what that will be given our current arc of progress." Wild.

    • @brucemanly
      @brucemanly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Hollywood041TOS had society chances too

  • @smithmr1
    @smithmr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Love that this was so on point and an accurate reflection of life today.

    • @mindblast3901
      @mindblast3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Life today Sucks

    • @TinLeadHammer
      @TinLeadHammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As boring as back then, typing on a screen instead of real keyboard.

    • @user-jt5vm3mi1w
      @user-jt5vm3mi1w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no it isn't

    • @user-jt5vm3mi1w
      @user-jt5vm3mi1w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mindblast3901 how does it?

  • @CaptainX2012
    @CaptainX2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I love that you are uploading this old stuff, keep up the good work!

    • @michaelt8682
      @michaelt8682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i mean its the bbc archive. what else is it going to do?

    • @Hollywood041
      @Hollywood041 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelt8682 Well, they could not upload the archive... and just keep it in a basement storage for reference until somebody comes to requisition a specific episode on the correct form, in triplicate.

  • @a9udn9u
    @a9udn9u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the color tone of videos from 60s and 70s.

  • @StefanMilner
    @StefanMilner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm 21 and these archives are so fascinating, the world was such a different place back then, this report portrays so well how revolutionary being able to go back and edit text you've typed was, even typing this comment I've made plenty of typos.

  • @eaaeeeea
    @eaaeeeea ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Most big companies talked about digitalization for decades (all my life), but the pandemic forced everyone's hand. In the companies I've worked at during the pandemic, the switch to home office was relatively painless. Our financials showed that productivity stayed the same or increased. So not all bad this pandemic.

  • @jeanbonnefoy1377
    @jeanbonnefoy1377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Fascinating! Too bad the MicroWriter didn't really caught, though. However, I keep dear memories of my first Olivetti "word processor" in 1978 and I still keep several boxes of 10 5"1/4 floppy disks... each needed to contain just one of my books - and not the longest ones! Living then in Paris, I enjoyed having a Minitel terminal by my desk. Used not only as a white and yellow pages phone books on line but for checking the weather forecast, reading the news, send and receive messages or book train tickets...

    • @PaulRuane
      @PaulRuane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can still get chorded keyboards: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard

    • @DavidPaulMorgan
      @DavidPaulMorgan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember the Microwriter (never had one) and the French Minitel - the internet without the internet I suppose. I suppose in UK we did really take to the teletext services - especially for news, weather and the Oracle/Teletext holiday pages. Prestel never really caught on - I used it once for my first 'real' job in '84 to post product pricing for the (remote) London office.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The microwriter was just a stupid idea of a person tired of a typewriter. Nowadays you can type faster when you are good trained on a computer keyboard than even with a typewriter, as you don't have to care for spelling errors, as you can simply delete them. You often can achieve up to 400 characters a minute when you are well trained - even professional typists in the 1970s weren't able to type so fast without much mistakes.

    • @mancerrss
      @mancerrss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Microwriter eventually evolved into stenographer tho, which are still being used in courtooms.
      The ultimate opponent of technology aside from mass adoption is it's user friendlyness. And the way this system works, as fast as it seems is still too complex for a normal human to learn. You'll need to practice and think first before you type. It's unnatural

    • @IkarusKommt
      @IkarusKommt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mancerrss Such keyboards were invented several times since late-30s.

  • @ilanpretz
    @ilanpretz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I do love to see the childhood of our technology through the eyes of our grandparents 😍😍😍🤗

  • @MrAsBBB
    @MrAsBBB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great video and loved the kitchen shot. Takes me back to my childhood. I was a child of the 70s

  • @RagHelen
    @RagHelen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Somehow the information that you can correct typos easily before sending the text out was lost somewhere in the past 43 years.

  • @rocon86
    @rocon86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was way ahead of it's time. The installation of fibre broadband directly into everybody's home today, and I see it 1st hand as I install fibre broadband, is biggest innovation to be introduced into the home since electricity or running water from a tap. And this is what is really mind blowing, we already own devices that are ready to use this technology. When I am unable to install fibre broadband for a customer due to certain blockages or difficulties, it's like I am the worst person on earth and Internet connection has become more important running water itself.

  • @K.F-R
    @K.F-R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    How a smart, prescient optimist sees the future of the Internet in 1979: 10:20

    • @brianm2881
      @brianm2881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We asked for it, though. We wanted these connected devices. It just so happened that as these devices gave us an ability to reach out, it gave others an ability reach in.
      If this trend continues, it could end up being that one of the great personal commodities of the future is true privacy.

  • @nothereforit.605
    @nothereforit.605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It’s funny how all the machines and programs became obsolete so quickly because of how fast progress was made. I wonder if a country or even an office ended up losing ungodly amounts of money by jumping to quickly on one breakthrough. Then just as soon as they finished upgrading their infrastructure a second faster one came onto the market.

    • @ojbeez5260
      @ojbeez5260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still happening...always will. Upgrade cycles in some companies are as short as every 6 months. Windows bloody updates are every month or so.

    • @MD-fu6ly
      @MD-fu6ly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A lot of places ended up using the legacy machinery for 10-20 years

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It depends on the industry. For a real viable business that could leverage technology, the benefits far, far, exceeded the expenses involved in such things. There were real competitive advantages back in those days where you lost contracts, customers, because you weren't keeping up.

    • @Hokunin
      @Hokunin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Japanese government still used floppy disks until just a few months ago. Even more ancient floppy disks are being used in Nuclear armament installations.

    • @DesignFIaw
      @DesignFIaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hokunin I hear the undertone there, and it's a common criticism (fear, even) of certain government operations. But not just them, COBOL is still widely used by most financial institutions and the global digital payment infrastructure as the core of their programming - a programming language designed more than 60 years ago.
      Often people associate old technology and early computing solutions with vulnerability and commonplace system failures. However, this isn't that simple.
      Here is an experiment for you. Get your smartphone, start using some everyday apps you'd normally use: and count all the bugs you encounter. All the non-intuitive behaviour, all the visual and control issues, everything. You'll be surprised to find that the quality of programming is extremely poor, you've just got accustomed to it. In fact, it has been declining for the last 10-15 years, visibly - this is despite the ever increasing processing power/intelligence, automated and predictive programming aids and all the other ever expanded tools and knowledge at programmers' disposal.
      Turns out that modern programming is extremely complex, but noone can truly understand the complexity of even a medium sized software, they are only building on the surface (ie high level code and abstractions). Micro-kernels have shown as that short, consise, but ultimately better built software are more robust and reliable.
      You can get away with control/UI issues, connectivity loss and some visual problems in an app like facebook messenger. Would you be OK with those same issues if you were sitting at a nuclear missile's control panel? I'd much rather have floppy disks and room sized computers control nuclear silos than an interactive web-application made in JS. This is (partly) why many of the most vital computer sites (tax offices, military etc.) around the world often use "outdated" technology, and why the banking sector is still heavily reliant on it; we can see how new organizations with more novel computer systems are prone for vulnerabilities (NY dams, colonial pipeline, oil terminals in europe, even SWIFT).

  • @Payne2view
    @Payne2view ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The MicroWriter was still trying to gain popularity when I did my Computer Studies diploma in 1988. I'm glad I learned to type instead.

  • @hdufort
    @hdufort 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With decentralized work we should eventually start to see the big central cities losing office space, perhaps entire companies, the highways and major access roads will see a reduction in traffic jams.
    Smaller "satellite" towns, not exactly suburbs, just far enough, will be favored.
    The financial and business districts once needed to be packed together for three main reasons. They needed eyes on port activities. They needed to be close to the stock exchange. They needed to be close to each other to exchange communications and organize meetings. None of this matters anymore.

  • @DaveFlash
    @DaveFlash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    'in the future inevitably we'll all be part of a worldwide information society' yes, it's called the internet or World Wide Web, and here's me watching this thing on a little thing called TH-cam, short for 'your own telly'.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Before this service came into existence, I’d always thought a „U Tube” was the prefabricated tunnels used to build Metro lines in many German cities… 🚇🇩🇪😇

  • @kay_red1156
    @kay_red1156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It took 41 years and a pandemic for upper management to understand.

    • @ColtraneTaylor
      @ColtraneTaylor ปีที่แล้ว

      And they still have not understood. 50 years from now they can undo what little changes we are asking for, just as with Roe v Wade. Primitive bahstards.

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truee..

  • @TheCatBilbo
    @TheCatBilbo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a few years from this, I'm going to own my first computer: a Sinclair ZX81. That alone is an amazing revolution - an 11-year old with a home computer! Unthinkable not many years before.
    The presenter is Luke Casey, who only died in November 2022 at 80. Originally from Ireland he came to the UK at 14. Here, he is a mere 37-years old!

    • @brucemanly
      @brucemanly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What I always remember about the zx81 is Kryten telling me that starbug somehow crashes more often 😂

  • @Left-is-right-8192
    @Left-is-right-8192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They predicted voice recognition! We don’t even really think about that these days, but it’s only been with us for about a decade.

  • @kebman
    @kebman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Marvellous! I saw the digital typewriters emerge in the 80's, meaning typewriters that had a little LCD display where you could pre-type the text and edit it, before printing it out on the page. The typewriter wouldn't _print_ it per se, but actually type it in machine-gun fashion, rakka-takka-takka on the paper. It was magical technology!

    • @mainstay.
      @mainstay. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember in 1985, a friend had a typewriting business ( mainly typing students theses) another mutual friend worked for Xerox and 'gave' her one of these digital typewriters, as you say small, 80 character screen. I remember thinking ( as a 'hands on ' joiner) this is great for people that work in an office, but this technology will never help me in my work. How wrong I was!

  • @deadstoned
    @deadstoned 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Totally amazing. I really love BBC ARCHIVE. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TinLeadHammer
    @TinLeadHammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The frame selected for the thumbnail is the best one in the whole video: very clean and futuristic. I commend the person who chose that image and modified it, using a suitable retro-futuristic background, very stylish.

  • @DanielsPolitics1
    @DanielsPolitics1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve had out the papers for my employer’s plans for emergency working (WW2 if the office was destroyed or inaccessible, and emergency 24/7 working). In WW2 the plan was for me to visit every day one of a series of reporting centres, and once the office opened they would telephone or send a letter to the centre to tell me to come to work. In the 60s I would have been telephoned (some colleagues would be called on a neighbours phone, not having a phone) and told to call my telephone tree or report directly, and alert the duty teleprinter operator by phone. We would then report to the office. Once there I would probably have just stared in confusion at the teleprinter, not daring to tear off and read the messages until the operator arrived.
    Of course nowadays I’d get a call from my boss, open my laptop, and just get on with it.
    It would have seemed marvellous to my predecessors. I think what seems most odd to me is the apparent helplessness of senior staff. It would have been assumed I was completely incapable of operating anything more complex than a rotary dial telephone. Even then, an operator would have been available to enable me to reach extensions, and possibly normal direct dial lines.

  • @Seminal_Ideas
    @Seminal_Ideas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The BBC back then was polite and informative.

  • @PoshLifeforME
    @PoshLifeforME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wish I could go back to 1979 with all the IT knowledge I have accumulated from the mid 80's. Ah fantasies. where would I be without you.

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    W😮W - Floppy discs - I remember those days!!! Also early days of the "Super Information High-way" - I.e. the internet!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂

  • @markarca6360
    @markarca6360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It eventually came true. Starting in 2020, WFH flourished because of the pandemic situation.
    Nowadays, when speaking of a word processor, everyone refers to Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.

  • @UserWalterbe
    @UserWalterbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did knew the Minitel story but not the original economic concept for it. Phone books! - From Belgium. The very last paper phone books where issued just a couple of years ago here. - Great video. Also did not new that the first modern 'home working' was done in 1979. Remarkable

    • @mel816
      @mel816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      France Telecom (now Orange) also made tons of money by allowing third parties to offer content like news and ticket booking services, of course in exchange for a percentage of the fees😉

  • @97channel
    @97channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Word. Processor. Text. Editor. Magnetic. Disk. Silicone. Chip.
    The biggest revolution for working mothers, since the pill.😲
    Edit: Yes, I didn't know the difference between Silicon and Silicone. I'm happy to keep that gap in my knowledge on display. As Bob Monkhouse once said: "We all make mistakes. That's why they have those little rubbers on the end of pencils.".

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And now that you can type your stuff while breastfeeding your baby from home, you don't even need the pill!

    • @CasinoWoyale
      @CasinoWoyale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silicone can be used for many things but making chips isn't one of them. Read this article and learn: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone

    • @TinLeadHammer
      @TinLeadHammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Confusing silicon with silicone, eh?

    • @krashd
      @krashd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You silly cone!

  • @TheUtuber999
    @TheUtuber999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cut my word processing teeth using Bank Street Writer for the Commodore 64 back in 1985. 40-column editing wasn't much fun... but 80-column editing using Wordstar on a PC in 1988 was a game-changer.

  • @MiKeMiDNiTe-77
    @MiKeMiDNiTe-77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How else loves seeing late 70s footage of interesting things

    • @andrewdeans3686
      @andrewdeans3686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who else . . . . ? For goodness sake ! ! ! !

    • @jimmybrad156
      @jimmybrad156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewdeans3686 For godness psyche*

    • @TheUtuber999
      @TheUtuber999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How else indeed, except through YT. 😁

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely love it. I work in modern day technology and really wish I could have been back at the start where all of this was truly cutting edge and exciting. I work for a research organisation and our current near-retirement MD and a few other old timers were 'on the tools' back in 1987, but our roots go back to 1971. In both cases there are plenty of photos. It looks _so_ cool.
      Would love to be sat in some 'computer room' with 1970s beardy men, looking at tape reels and a 2MB hard drive that's the size of my washing machine. You'd never take your work home with you, there was no on-call, no emphasis on tinkering with a home lab in every moment of your spare time. Work life balance was better and I have it on good authority that programming was also easier simply because the target systems were more primitive.
      Sadly, I can honestly say that modern day tech and IT just isn't as groundbreaking or magical. Nothing's really 'new' - the programming languages and frameworks are all there, the hardware is all there, the concepts are all there, the big cloud providers are there - you're just building variations on a common theme and essentially using a Lego set. Write some code using a load of off-the-shelf libraries and it gets burped out onto a Linux server, oh yay.

  • @connclissmann6514
    @connclissmann6514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By 1979, on our firm we were already using WordStar (with the optional MergeStar and SpellStar).

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:30 a mother and a computer programmer. In 1979.

    • @straightpipediesel
      @straightpipediesel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There were a lot more women in computing from the early days until the 80's. Computers required clerical work, specifically punching cards then running them through the computer. Women naturally did these jobs. They'd be ask to keypunch a program written by hand on paper. They might also be given a stack of cards and ask to compile and run the program. As the operators did this, they'd naturally learn about programming. They'd eventually be able to fix mistakes themselves and then eventually write and debug programs. The entry level clerical stuff all went away with the terminal and personal computer, and women left the computer industry.

    • @katbryce
      @katbryce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, that is one area where things have gone backwards, a lot. Most of the early stuff related to computers was invented by women.
      The computer software that put Neil Armstrong on the moon for example, that was written entirely by women.

    • @jimmybrad156
      @jimmybrad156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds like she's on the pill, too.

    • @FredF78
      @FredF78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What programming language is she using? Basic?

    • @protectwhatisours6895
      @protectwhatisours6895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katbryce not most. Let’s stay realistic down here.

  • @westminsterwatcher5152
    @westminsterwatcher5152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bloody love this channel!

  • @bmc868
    @bmc868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1979 Office : 1000 people
    2022 Office : 1 person.....

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:13 Different type of minidisk :) and I never knew Verbatim had been around that long.

  • @chrisnewman7281
    @chrisnewman7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The home computering revolution as interesting as it is, is really dwarfed by the mobile computering revolution. The program could’ve gone a bit further and said here in my hand is a device not much bigger than a stack of cards, and with it, I have the power of access a library information in seconds from anywhere across the world. In fact, I can communicate with somebody in Beijing in an instant, with a few taps on this screen.

  • @masteryoda394
    @masteryoda394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:44 It's nice to see BASIC again 😎

  • @stevenirby5576
    @stevenirby5576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These people were on the absolute bleeding edge of technology. How amazing.

  • @henryviii6341
    @henryviii6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Bradford City Council LEADING THE WORLD 🤡
    words I never thought would hear.

    • @Maximustard
      @Maximustard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @Starfireaw11
      @Starfireaw11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably still running that system from the 1970s today 🤣🤣

    • @xxnoxx-xp5bl
      @xxnoxx-xp5bl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't sound too great to around half the people who used to work there...

    • @brendanbrendan9435
      @brendanbrendan9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And words they'll never hear again......

    • @mel816
      @mel816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Starfireaw11 lots of long established companies (especially banks and insurance companies) still run on 1970s and 1980s mainframes, just hidden behind web/graphical displays

  • @hyperteleXii
    @hyperteleXii ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My neighbor asked me in 2020 if there was an easier way to copy a computer text document than creating a new file and typing it out again.

  • @waverider1674
    @waverider1674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1979 - Home Working
    2020 - till now Work from home.

  • @davelazenby77255
    @davelazenby77255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It really is quite amazing how far technology has come in such a short space of time.

  • @CaiAllinx
    @CaiAllinx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Haha that's so brilliant that you could put the phone against the printer to transfer the data!

  • @alumycrick2911
    @alumycrick2911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Grandad: Ah, the days when floppy disks were actually floppy.
    Son: They were floppy? I don't believe it!
    Grandson: What's a floppy disk?

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was born in 1987 and remember proper floppy disks. We had them for our BBC B Micro and my grandfather's ancient Amstrad.
      When I was at secondary school in the early-mid 2000s we all had our own 3-1/2" floppy disks given to us by the school to save our work on. Those RM computers couldn't handle USB and nobody had a memory stick at that point.
      Got my very first USB memory stick in September 2005. It cost £25 and had a life-changing capacity of 512MB. I think I still have it somewhere.

    • @xiaokhat
      @xiaokhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@halfbakedproductions7887 I read your comment and thought we went to the same school, but I am in Asia so that would be quite impossible. Back in the early 2000s, we were given mini floppy disks to save our work on. But I never saw a floppy disk in real life.

    • @abiola33
      @abiola33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@halfbakedproductions7887 Reading your comment felt so relatable. I'm a 87 baby also!

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:55 back in the days when they sold mortgages. I believe some of those are still on file. Where I was, a local council, they had converted them over to modern systems so had to look back on an old system to see the mortgages from the 80s they'd sold.

  • @bartobruintjes7056
    @bartobruintjes7056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope that this invention will come soon to our homes.

  • @truth-12345.
    @truth-12345. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BBC Archive is like a time capsule for this old tech short documentary videos.

  • @TheBroz
    @TheBroz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    God damn I love this youtube channel, such brilliant artefacts.

  • @JonnyInfinite
    @JonnyInfinite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That typing hand thing is a proper nonsense invention, I love it

  • @unnamedchannel1237
    @unnamedchannel1237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This will be good if an international pandemic hits

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tomorrow there will be no pandemics. Penicillin and other modern antibiotics will take care of that.

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BT admitted offhand that we would have been in serious trouble if the pandemic had landed even in 2015, because the fibre rollout wasn't far enough along and mass WFH in the way that we saw would be a really tough ask. But by 2020 things were a lot different.
      I think if this pandemic had landed in the 1990s, we'd probably have been screwed. The choice would have been carry on as normal and face mass death, or lock everything down to the point of starvation and the economy being damaged beyond repair because nobody could work.
      At least in 2020 we had the technology to work remote in a serious way, keep in touch at a distance, buy things online and so on, whereas in 1995 we absolutely didn't. The only saving grace is that the pandemic would have been slower getting here because international travel in those days wasn't as good, and especially so in China which was pretty underdeveloped at that time.

  • @itsmarmalade
    @itsmarmalade ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It took 40 years and a pandemic, but yes! Word processing helped!

  • @pioneer1131
    @pioneer1131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its absolutely insane how much they got right here

  • @travelvideos
    @travelvideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was the peak of public sector employment 7.07 million persons. Now it is down to about 5 million.

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's down to those pesky microcomputers again. Give a manager a machine that does two people's jobs for the price of one, and that's a guaranteed p45 in the post the next morning!

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 1979, it was pretty reasonable to assume that the internet wasn’t going to be available to the general public. Just a few years later, regular folks could get an internet account. In the late eighties, my mom predicted that everyone was going to be on the internet, and I thought that idea was silly. Oops!

  • @jea559
    @jea559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It'll never catch on! 😁

  • @merion297
    @merion297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating period documents these are. 😊 Thank you for sharing it the world. We have a time machine now, sort of.

  • @martinh4982
    @martinh4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wait a minute... you went to the council to get a mortgage?

  • @davidmizak4642
    @davidmizak4642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You deliver excellent content to your audience. It's very interesting material. All of your effort put into creating this video is much appreciated. I'm truly grateful for your help!

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the BBC. The UK tax payer pays them for it ;)

  • @katbryce
    @katbryce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    37,000 pages of A4 text in a single computer 🤯.
    We now have a 1.5TB micro-SD card, which can store about 1 billion pages of text.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But don’t forget that „Some capacity is used for formatting and other purposes, and is not available for user storage”. Add to that the problem of „glut” (Write the same document in Word 97 and Office 2020, and look at the file sizes!) and the raw capacity increase translates to a much lower increase in practical capacity in real terms! 💾💸😉
      Case in point: In the 90s all of your work assignments would fit on two 3,5” floppies totalling 2,8MB capacity. Nowadays you’d be in BIG trouble if relying on any flash drive smaller than 32GB… 🙃

    • @katbryce
      @katbryce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dieseldragon6756 True, but part of that is due to text being stored in unicode, which means if you want to include some Russian, or Chinese, or Emoji characters in your document, you can now do that without messing around with different fonts.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@katbryce Aye, the change to Unicode (e.g. 16 bytes per character as opposed to 8) does effectively double the size of the user text, but this isn’t the main driver of glut. In my example above the extra data wouldn’t generally oblige a third disk be carried. 💾😇
      The main driver of glut is the extra data that manufacturers are now storing in data files and elsewhere (Particularly in filesystem journals) compared to before.
      In Word 97 a single page of ASCII text might be about 11KB and record creation and edit dates, the registered user and company name. Nowadays Office 365 will create a 50KB+ file to store the same information (Of which only 19KB is due to Unicode) and potentially record information you don’t want being transmitted with the file, such as unique IDs corresponding to your computer system and/or operating system installation. 🔓

  • @izzatfauzimustafa6535
    @izzatfauzimustafa6535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who would have thought word processing end up increasing piles of workloads that disrupt workers' need for relaxation at home many decades later?

  • @adriansdigitalbasement
    @adriansdigitalbasement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:40 Nice to see a SWTPC 6800 being shown off!

  • @KBProduction
    @KBProduction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just how much thing have changed

  • @MrMann0123
    @MrMann0123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That is brilliant.

  • @John-uz2sz
    @John-uz2sz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting take on the future from 1979

  • @GBGOLC
    @GBGOLC ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a NEET back in 1983 a few years after this film and joined a YTS scheme. I thought computers might be the future. I knew nothing about them and the YTS scheme was a load of crap. I spent most of my time being a dogsbody and getting lunches for teletype engineers. I wasn’t taught anything and mainly left to my own devices for £25pw. However, I taught myself to program using Olivetti PCOS/BASIC. I had a knack for it that I never knew and found it relatively easy. Roll on today and I have a successful career as a software engineer/architect. Computers changed my life forever and this still holds true today.
    If you have a knack for computing and enjoy it, then do it, it will change your life.

  • @iggytse
    @iggytse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That text editor looks like VI on Unix. That was archaic. The Pico text editor was easier to use.

  • @jlyn8228
    @jlyn8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Took 30 years, but in 2009 our fourth grade class started using laptops for writing.

  • @shaunsteele8244
    @shaunsteele8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was born in 79... only took 40 years and a global pandemic for it to become a reality

  • @glazersout4272
    @glazersout4272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So why the hell did it take until 2020 and a major pandemic to truly bring about the rise of mass home working?

  • @FredF78
    @FredF78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find the search and replace syntax quite up to date. Yet not like regexp.

  • @Traveller69
    @Traveller69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No appreciation or care given whatsoever regarding the impact of less people being required to do the work. All about efficiency and profit for the few as ever.

  • @DecentralEyes
    @DecentralEyes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve wanted to be a computer programmer working from home since 2003!

  • @n1msu
    @n1msu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really interesting to watch this. It took a pandemic to make it happen! Although it could have been done sooner; I'm sure. I think companies are trying to get people back into the office though. I personally don't know how full time home working can be productive.

    • @robertnussberger2028
      @robertnussberger2028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It will. Soon. Right now, I find that cell phone and internet service providers are being greedy at the moment. Before 2019 started, the phone service here in Naples Florida was super fast and reliable, and even the internet was as well. After the summer of 2019, it got really really slow and almost unusable coincidently moments before they started advertising 5g, which is expensive and it's not implemented well in every region of the u.s.
      But if they can stop that greed, we can have soo much in terms of internet technologies. like, we could, like, expand soo far and it would be a win win win solution. And thus, work-at-home people can not only do collaborating writing, but 3d, 3d film making and such.

    • @Hollywood041
      @Hollywood041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that is your problem right there. Full-time. If I do not need to travel to/from; I do not have to attend meetings; I do not have to hear about Diane's grandkids; I do not need to take a break to go get coffee; I do not need to step out for a cigarette b/c my co-worker stressed me out; I can take a nap after a midday GOOD lunch; and, I can come back when I am set to be productive.
      Even in this piece, at the beginning, they explain that one would not work on the 8hr 9-5. She was "typing code while the kids were asleep"... choose your hours, be productive, it is not about logging 40hrs. In the 1930s they figured we would only be working about 14hours a week by now. Business has tricked you, deprogram.

  • @rohan34
    @rohan34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    getting these recommendations now almost feels like a joke... but it's interesting that people actually thought of it. it was surely baffling when it released

  • @NeonCoding
    @NeonCoding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were a couple decades out but they got the right idea.

  • @MrIrrepressible
    @MrIrrepressible ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:06 ahh the old bubble screen tv with the blsck border. Haven't seen one of them in yonks

  • @gesugao
    @gesugao ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no syntax highlighting, no git support, but a modern kitchen and 2 children.

  • @hunter2442
    @hunter2442 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating technology!! Having actually lived through that age until now this hits hard for me that I am old! I wish they had such a video explaining how current technology is helpful!! The portable typewriter 7:55 is a nightmare in my opinion!

  • @mikeluscher159
    @mikeluscher159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:00 you'd swear they knew WFO was coming 😮

  • @RustyLightningPhoto
    @RustyLightningPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This 'world wide information society' sounds interesting.

  • @vanhalenbr
    @vanhalenbr ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy explaining at 6:15 about “word processors” talking to each other and how to “link” things in a way described the basic concept of markup or HTML

  • @captainkeyboard1007
    @captainkeyboard1007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Word Processing was like a "major" to me when I attended Control Data Institute in 1988. Then Microsoft Word became my mainspring. Microsoft Access is my favorite application program. All thanks to my typewriting background that grew to become my keyboarding skill. Still, I keyboard but on a by using 9 fingers and my right thumb with my head aimed above the keyboard. I hope that word processing will return in full force, as it was before. I create a wide variety of documents and files that could be printed onto paper and could be sent electronically. Word processing is much easier and better because I use a microcomputer and a color laser printer, right in the privacy of my home. Today, I do not really need the keyboarding speed because it did not help me gain successful employment. Therefore, I may type slower, but the speed is fast without extemporaneous effort from me!🙂

  • @jmaycock
    @jmaycock 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent

  • @JohnFekoloid
    @JohnFekoloid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You mean we've been doing exactly the same thing for over 40 years?