Morihiro Saito's Explosive Iriminage at the 1978 All-Japan Aikido Demonstration

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    One of the most memorable performances ever at the annual All-Japan Aikido Demonstrations in Tokyo at the Budokan

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  • @sam_barris
    @sam_barris 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Iriminagetastic!

  • @hollowdusk
    @hollowdusk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Must have been a real moment. Saito sensei just went up did his thing dropped the mic and walked away.

  • @zenmeister451
    @zenmeister451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's not messing around! Excellent video.

    • @aikibaby
      @aikibaby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's doing the real original aikido of Morihei Ueshiba. He was one of OSensei's favorite students. Saito was a rail worker, a slender young man, when he met OSensei. He lived at the dojo/shrine for decades and faithfully assisted OSensei in farming and in training. Early on, OSensei told him to start lifting a piece of track rail like a bokken. Good, hard, simple living, eating, working, and training with OSensei made him what he became and he remained strictly faithful to OSensei's aikido long after others changed.

  • @thkun33
    @thkun33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never feel bored to see this kind of irriminage demonstration

  • @claredin
    @claredin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Saito is awesome. Built like a brick wall and moves like the wind!

    • @knelmes01
      @knelmes01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A farmer as a young man by all accounts. A very strong man!

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Farmer, Railway Worker, Karateka, Judoka and Aikido genius. Incredibly strong and yet, quite gracious in his movement. That's what I strive for, but I'm quite convinced I won't get there in my lifetime :D Still, one must strive for perfection

  • @alserehi1
    @alserehi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible

  • @pabloenriquetirabassi7060
    @pabloenriquetirabassi7060 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Saito Sensei !!

  • @slavqnin66
    @slavqnin66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great master ...bow !

  • @MrFabiomassid
    @MrFabiomassid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can feel the effectiveness there, but also see that he worked a lot with upper body power

    • @JustMe-vz3wd
      @JustMe-vz3wd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it all originates from the hip...

    • @aikibaby
      @aikibaby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was a slender young man when he met OSensei, who advised him to lift a steel rail like a bokken. Not sure the length of the piece, but Saito started doing that and became a gentle monster. A holy man.

  • @pffh9395
    @pffh9395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Explosive...fast...one Flow...nice old school

  • @sabri1910
    @sabri1910 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    01:20 then here we see that Saito sensei actually had a knowledge of the "real fight" shorter movements than usual, faster and especially more efficient! There's nothing to say that you think you are in the face believe me it put you KO in 1 second ... for all fans of the UFC and other crap: that's a real fighter who has a fight " for real "and not in the ring with loud cries and mental defective with the help of an arbitrator when the" fight "goes wrong ... and everyone knows that Saito sensei to help as O sensei he had trouble with the Yakuza Iwama and the region. And there, at these "fights" no whistle referee blows for the end of combat eh ...

    • @franklinmcmahon7471
      @franklinmcmahon7471 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Sab soulier Fairy tales my friend. Do you really believe that 2 people took on a whole organized crime syndicate with bottles and bricks?

    • @alexscott730
      @alexscott730 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The flat out lies you fanboys come up with🖕😂

    • @MrVicJass
      @MrVicJass 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't was confirmed this version in his interview .

    • @patrickrichard5948
      @patrickrichard5948 ปีที่แล้ว

      Source?

    • @williamdelong8265
      @williamdelong8265 ปีที่แล้ว

      O Sensei was shot at by Chinese soldiers but they couldn't hit him. He was captured and they wanted to execute him but the soldiers got cold feet because Uyeshiba didn't flinch at death. Fighting with rules in front of cameras is not life and death combat.

  • @kengle1
    @kengle1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:41 Ouch. Bad landing

  • @kenwintin3014
    @kenwintin3014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I watch videos of Aikido masters, I always get the feeling that they are faking it. With Saito Morihiro, I don't see that. His technique "feels" effective. I notice that he uses a lot of katai attacks from his ukemi. For those who don't understand what I mean: he allows the ukemi to get his hold without movement, thus making it much more difficult to do the technique. Both Takeda Sokaku and Ueshiba Osensei claimed that much "katai" was necessary. Hmmmm.

    • @MrSonOze
      @MrSonOze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Katai keiko is the basic training in Iwama style(Kihon),teaching in the iwama style starts with hard grips and evolves over time and practice to ki no nagare.

    • @kenwintin3014
      @kenwintin3014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrSonOze Indeed.

    • @JustMe-vz3wd
      @JustMe-vz3wd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Morihei Ueshiba did teach different to each students character and physically build. To the sturdy Saito he did teach the older style. To his son Kisshomaru he did teach the modern aikido with its circular movements. Even Takeda is well known to teach different styles; the Aiki style to fragile students, and the stronger style with locks etc, to the more sturdy type.
      Morihei in his later years himself was obviously into the modern aikido that he did teach Kisshomaru. Just look at the clips of the elderly Osensei; its pure Aikikai and what Kisshomaru does.
      Its utterly absurd the old wives tale that Morihei suposedly didnt teach his own son, the successor of aikido, but only Saito. Lastly, Saito was aikikai until his death. All the agitating by his students he must turn in the grave.
      Lastly lastly, Takeda, what? Its old style, past, its the predecesor of aikido, but, its NOT aikido.

    • @kenwintin3014
      @kenwintin3014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustMe-vz3wd Gee, you seem bitter that I brought up Takeda Sokaku. My goodness, are we "agitating? No one said that Daito Ryu is Aikido, and as for "old style" and "past"....without the old style and the past there would be no aikido. I quote Ueshiba Morihei, probably not exactly since I quote from memory, "The mountain does not call the river lowly nor does the river consider the mountain less because it cannot move."

    • @JustMe-vz3wd
      @JustMe-vz3wd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenwintin3014 Oh, so deep and wise, your quote! i am impressed.
      besides that, yes we know, no past no daito ryu, no aikido. daito ryu is magnificant, as Morihei said "daito ryu opened my eyes to true budo". my single point is stop your nonsense that "when i watch videos of aikido masters, i always get the feeling they are faking it." Stop admiring one aikido master (Saito) by putting other aikido masters down...

  • @brucecollins2156
    @brucecollins2156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for this.
    It's a pity that Aikido videos that allow comments always get a healthy percentage of know-nothing creeps, though.

    • @kenwintin3014
      @kenwintin3014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed.

    • @lancehobbs8012
      @lancehobbs8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you need to turn the comments off a lot of pretenders do that to keep reality out

  • @pianoking4497
    @pianoking4497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Iwama Ryu!

  • @АлександрПанов-к2л
    @АлександрПанов-к2л 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Я изучал разные стили айки-до, ивама рю самый сильный из них, близкий к истокам (дайто-рю айкидзюцу) и как следствие самый работающий даже с напреженным и сопротивляющимся сопрерником❤

  • @bmbb1234
    @bmbb1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can see some of Seagals aikido here. He trained under isoyama.

    • @alexscott730
      @alexscott730 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seagal is a fraud.

    • @bmbb1234
      @bmbb1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexscott730 so are you

  • @88binis88
    @88binis88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ukes hanging on like bosses

  • @EdwinStearns
    @EdwinStearns 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ukes?

    • @AikidoblogNet
      @AikidoblogNet 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Edwin Stearns S. Inagaki & B. Klickstein th-cam.com/video/b5wrkVx9okQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @avamandrell4445
      @avamandrell4445 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      the new

    • @danslater1542
      @danslater1542 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Aikido Blog .net Heros! Looked painful. And love the hair!

  • @z8ph0d
    @z8ph0d 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His technique is fantastic, and I have no doubt that he would drill me into the ground, but--I don't see the "Aiki" in it.
    Aiki in the In-yo sense, before anyone assassinates me for saying that Saito Sensei doesn't know Aikido.

    • @TalEl59
      @TalEl59 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Aiki" just means harmonizing or blending with energy. In a practical sense it means get close and use the instrument of attack(usually the attacker's arm) against itself. Saito is doing just that!

    • @JustMe-vz3wd
      @JustMe-vz3wd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember an interview in which Saito mentions this. he says something like, since i am a big guy, people assume that i do the techniques with phisical strenght. he goes on to explain he absolutely doesnt use physical strenght.

  • @Modinthalis
    @Modinthalis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does anyone believe this would work on resisting opponents? Do people believe that the students are not just throwing themselves?

    • @NIGHTSTALKER973
      @NIGHTSTALKER973 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Modinthalis the students have to throw themselves its called a break fall all of those breakfalls look beautiful but they are only done by someone who doesnt want to hurt themselves if you did that throw to someone in the street they would land flat on their back.

    • @DimitrisMilisis
      @DimitrisMilisis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      +Modinthalis
      Visit ANY decent aikido dojo. Ask to try for yourself. Resist as much as you can. Please do let us know what happens.

    • @Modinthalis
      @Modinthalis 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dimitris Milisis that's not going to happen for practical reasons. Is there any other way to know if these techniques work on resisting opponents? Is aikido used in MMA, for example?

    • @NIGHTSTALKER973
      @NIGHTSTALKER973 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Modinthalis aikido isnt used in mma because the majority of aikido practitioners dont want to participate in sport and dont train for it there are a couple of aikido videos floating around of it being applied to where the opponent resists if you want to see them ?

    • @Modinthalis
      @Modinthalis 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dominik Doherty If aikido is not used in competition, how can you know it is effective?

  • @jon...5324
    @jon...5324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice realism you've got there... now try with a resisting opponent

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      what do you mean a resisting opponent? One that controls your movement when they grab? Because that's what they are doing. One that tries to punch you? In that case, the hard part is not to do an iriminage, it's to do an iriminage without taking the opponent's head off in the process (I've actually got a neck injury and lost my voice for about a week from an iriminage, and I'm quite good at defending myself, but being thrown with all that power is brutal).

    • @gilvargas432
      @gilvargas432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is an demonstraition. But he got many figths in bars and even the local yakusa didin't messed with him.

    • @laumia2499
      @laumia2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruialmeida818 look carefully at 1'14-1'18: my feeling is a resisting Uke will end up more with Saito's shoulder injury than Uke's neck injury...

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laumia2499 You'd be right if the movement wasn't centered. Besides, an iriminage isn't performed with the arm+shoulder, it's performed with the hip. The arm is merely disruptive. Irimi means "to enter".

    • @laumia2499
      @laumia2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruialmeida818 I m so sorry but look again at 1'14-1'18 and dare you tell me the movement is centered!!???
      I however do respectfully agree with your assertion concerning irimi nage : it is not performed with arm and shoulder (but with your core and whole body more than just your hips, I would say) and irimi means to enter :sure but look again at Saito Sensei at 1'14-1'18 :he is not centered, Uke is far from his core and Saito only uses his arm and shouder and a lot of strength AND last but not least hopefully for him, Uke are so compliant that they dont resist at all and on this 2 moves we can say they fall because they are expected to.
      I really like aikido, and I m truly sad that such a demo can be so worshipped...

  • @lancehobbs8012
    @lancehobbs8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You people are delusional this is larping . If he was that good he could have won gold for japan in JUDO at the OLYMPICS. maybe he didnt feel like it....hmmn....

    • @StarkRaveness
      @StarkRaveness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, its a demonstration not a contest

  • @laumia2499
    @laumia2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but who can believe in effectiveness of aïkido when looking at this demo: for instance look at 1'15-1'17: the sensei does irimi nage without looking at his uke and with the uke behind him... Why? Because he knows that his ukes will kindly and gently do what they are expected to: follow the move and yes fall in order not to be injured.
    But Ukes are not allowed to have any initiative: they won t leave the grip and punch for instance: that s why it seems fake, even ludicrous sometimes...
    I precise I do practice aïkido. I truly like this martial inspired work but I m sorry in my opinion aïkido cannot be called a martial art. No offense.

    • @jamesguitar7384
      @jamesguitar7384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I knew a man who was once on the mat with Saito . This person was a hard bastard who told me and this is the truth , you can belittle this all you want " I knew he could have killed me anytime he wanted ". It is genuine .

    • @MrSonOze
      @MrSonOze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sorry but i can not trust that you are an aikido practitioner.

    • @laumia2499
      @laumia2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrSonOze sorry but I am indeed.. why dont you trust that? A true and sincere practice also means not to believe everything the so-called master teaches.

    • @MrSonOze
      @MrSonOze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@laumia2499 Because i think that you don`t understand the techniques of the video. Saito is not doing randori, he is demostrating diferent ways of execute irimi nage,from katai keiko and ki no nagare: Morote-dori,ryote-dori(2 ways),yokomen-uchi and shomen-uchi. He is not doing oyo waza or randori.

    • @laumia2499
      @laumia2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrSonOze I m afraid I understand too much the (lack of) technique I see there: if this is not randori then it s worse than I thought... : I see brutality, strength, lack of balance especially at 1'11-1'17(hopefully the 2 great Uke make him giving the illusion that he handles everything... ). If you see technique more than strength in this video then your judgement must be blinded by your faith. But I understand that, I used a few years to open my eyes too.