ya the this the starting corvette. not the z06 or the zr1. although i have no idea about z06 and zr1 plans for this this new c7 corvette. even if we will recieve those i would assume that chevy would give it a good couple of years with how wonderfully the base c7 vette is being recieved. 60k for the vette vs 100k for the viper
Mustafa Kilinc Yeah dude I was fucking with you. I know the Vette is cheaper. But if you compare a base Viper at 100k to the C6 ZR1 at 150k the argument flip flops. Truth is there are Viper fans and Vette fans and price points are not going to change that. If you like the Vette because it's cheaper then great get you a Vette, but don't try to shove your subjective opinion down other's throats.
As Americans, we should appreciate BOTH of these cars! Not bashing one or the other. If you're bashing either one of these cars? You're bashing America! They're should be a law like that here in the states. If you bash the Corvette or the Viper, you face the death penalty for treason... *PERIOD!*
And have you seen the dash? It is a lot like the viper lol. Almost a total copy. Has a pic of the vette like the viper has of the viper and they look a lot alike.
Josiah Marihugh Please reference the dash of a 1990 - 1996 C4 Corvette. The interior lines are exactly the same in the C7. In no way, shape, or fashion did GM 'copy' the Viper. If you think otherwise than clearly you're biased. Funny, the front of the C7 looks very similar to the C6... whose renderings were released in 2002.
We live in the golden age of HP. Lots of great American cars to chose from. I love them all. I'm considering the Viper because i love the analog rawness of the car, and i may see one per year in all my travels.
Hand built in DETROIT. Over 600hp. Killer sexy shape. More exclusive than the Vette AND THE PRICE JUST WAS DROPPED 15k! I would LOVE to have a Viper! Go Dodge!
Dreaklock Until then, the operative term is "had", past tense. I will go on and say, its unlikely it'll be 2014 or 2015. The Mustang goes on sale in mid to late 2014 and the last thing FORD will want is anything detracting from the Mustang, even if such a sports car is only a concept and won't be in production for at least 2-3 years after that. Also keep in mind, FORD spent the better part of 10 years teasing with sports car concepts before building the FORD GT and then teased the GR-1 and the Shelby Cobra but NEVER built either for sale. Such a car may very well be a tease and nothing more. That said, somehow another limited production sports car from FORD (The Viper is low volume) is NOT going to impress as much as tenured cars like the Corvette and Viper. As wonderful as the Ford GT was, it was badly flawed to such as degree it was not a good racing car, where most sports cars make their reps. A car company can only make a sports car once in blue moon, and have it be good at everything a sports car is supposed to be good at, if they are making sports cars on a regular basis. FORD has not done that level of work for almost a decade now. GM and CHRYSLER have. Sorry the Mustang does NOT count. You have to reach higher than that. So the Ford Sports car will be celebrated just for being and it should make a good show of it, like the Ford GT did. But in the long run, it needs regular updates and new versions going forward.
DocWolph What the hell are you talking about? The Ford GT wasn't all about handling but it did outrun the C6 Z06 around road courses when both were in production. Ford GT's are still world-class supercars by today's standards. The build quality is excellent, they've appreciated to over $200,000 and they're literally unstoppable in the standing mile...
2013FiveOh You really need to look into the FORD GT, with the beer goggles off. It was great when the car first came out, but fell off quickly. The car was NEVER able to compete very well at the track versus anything after it's first season at ALMS, including the the C6 Zo6 or G2 Viper. FORD did not put a strong factory support on the car like AUDI and PORSCHE do, nor did they have a standing factory team like Chevrolet and Ferrari do. It was not the best performing on the street either. Forget the Europeans and that ass-headed Top Gear review, (Who knew Clarkson did not know how to take care of a car that did not need that much attention?), the C6 Z06 and ZR-1 and the Viper were just better on the street, as well. car mags glomed over the car because they finally got to drive a "GT-40", but the car was just left behind because FORD did not even actually want to build the car and bowed to fan sentiment inside and outside the company. At least CHRYSLER and GM WANT their sports cars. How can I say that? Simple, Why did FORD only aim for 1500 car a year or 3 years production, which ever happened first, and then did not follow up with GR-1? They never wanted a sports car. It was something to shut you fans up. Now, the C6 Zo6 will outrun and outhandle the GT fairly easily, and that was BEFORE it was upgraded to deal with the GT-R better. Doesn't hurt that the C6 Zo6 is noticeably lighter and the Viper is much more powerful than the FORD GT. The Ford GT you are referring to, puling about 235mph or so at the Texas Flying mile, is a heavily modified car and "tuner cars do not count toward the abilities of the car as produced". Otherwise, you could say a Civic can outrun a Ferrari because someone tuned a Civic dragster to be faster. Obviously, you can not buy a Civic that is that fast and I seriously doubt anyone but a pro will even go that far to build such. This rule applies to ALL cars, and so a tuned/modded FORD GT does not count toward how fast the actual production car is. The Ford GT also appreciates in price only because FORD only made about ~4300 units and never made anymore or a follow up. In short, FORD made a collector's car. That simple. If CHRYSLER never got back to making Vipers, the cars sold would appreciate, as well, just as quickly. The FORD GT was a good first effort, but the car needed to be tenured like the Corvette and Viper. The car needed continued development and support by FORD. That did not happen. So if you are still wondering where my head is at on this, now you know.
You have obvious hatred towards to Ford GT, and you miss the point of the car entirely. You are also misinformed. Verified Nordschleife lap time of the Ford GT is 7:40.6. The C6 Z06 lapped in 7:42.99 when both cars were in production. Not to mention that the Ford GT was miles ahead in quality (as it well should be or the price, obviously) meaning that your little tidbit about the Z06 being "better on the street" is horseshit. It had a harsh rde throughout it's entire lifespan and was much louder in terms of wind noise at highway speeds. The car would wear you down much faster on a long trip, every time. Not that I care, I prefer lighter, stripped-out cars, i'm not exactly old. But! You brought it up, while being incorrect. You're also a little behind on the record sir. It's 283 mph, followed closely by several 270 and high 260 mph passes, all made by Ford GT's. Everything else that tries to run this fast in the mile either spins out, blows up, or both. (Corvettes and Lambos for example, as well as that Gen4 Camaro with 2,000+ hp, it ended up a pile of burnt plastic and a crumpled roll cage) Engine, suspension and frame mods aside, the aerodynamics remain unchanged in these Ford GT's. They don't even use aftermarket rear wings or anything in the mile, they're perfectly stable decelerating from 260+ mph with a 100% stock body. The same cannot be said for the aero effects of *any* other "production" car with the exception of the Bugatti Veyron SS, arguably. So get over yourself. You're trying to take something away from a car that is, in essence, a supercar godfather reborn.
Love how over the years the vett looks more and more like a viper with each new model! You can't hardly tell them apart from the front now! Please come up with your own ideas Chevy!
I AGREE! & I'm a Chevy Fan!, but I don't like Chevy stealing looks & ideals from the Viper! Personally I hate the Vette looks after the c-4s! No more POP UP HEADLIGHTS after the c-5s! Vetts UGLY exhaust pipes in the center of rear instead of tradition, to the rear sides (true duals). This ended on c-4 Vetts!
A Corvette doesn't have the Chevy accents & features(American looks) after the c-4 generation. The c-5s & up look no more foreign to me! Corvette lost its looks/heritage after the c-4 generation to me. The last Vette feature I liked was on the c-5. The last of the POP UP HEADLIGHTS! The ugly exhaust pipes started on the c-5s & remain current on later Vettes!
Both cars are a great bang for the buck in their price range. I have a problem with the fixed roof on the Viper. I like my sports cars like I like my women, TOPLESS.
I hear ya. That has been an issue for me as well, but if we are going to use the female analogy, consider this. The Corvette has without question, and I'm not alone on this, the ugliest rear end ever placed on a sports car. I like my women topless, but I'll take the curvaceous girl with the beautiful ass over the sharp, boney one that should pull her sweater down and hide that thing. As the great Joe Cocker once said: "You can leave your hat on." Viper: "You can leave your top on". Corvette: "Don't be shakin' that thing around me!!" "Oh, and by the way, pull that sweater down!! That thing is hideous."
Great video. I really wish Ford still made the Ford GT thought, I would love to see where they would be with it today and if it would match up with the Viper and Vette or blow them out of the water!
emmm, Not really at all if you have seen them in person, they look NOTHING alike in person, completely two different designs. Even with the headlights.
I love both of these cars! I am proud to be an american and see these 2 cars. Badass american cars! But power wise. Of course the Viper has more because this is the base model Vette. And the video isnt about which is more powerful, it about how we should be proud we made these badass cars!
I can't understand why people hate on any car. I hear people talk about what it a car as far as times on the Nurburgring or 0 - 60, or on a track. 99% have never been on a race track or the Nordscheleife, autobahn, or even drag strip. Fact is that nobody is going to go 200 on the street and no matter if your car can do that will it matter in your daily life. Being a person who restored English sports cars like Jaguar, Austin Healey, Triumph, MG, etc, a hot rodder with 62 Chevy II , 67 Dodge Coronet with Hemi, 69 Mustang Mach 1 with 428, and AMC AMX, who is currently working on a 38 Dodge with my son, and has driven the autobahn, Nurburgring in a 2006 Cobra, Miata, and 73 Carrera, who had a SCCA license and raced Super V's and a Bug Eye Sprite, I know something about cars. I remember racing against V8 Mustangs and other higher horsepower cars with my Sprite and really embarassing them on a twisty track due to a better chassis set up on a car that really couldn't get out of it's own way as far as horsepower, (less than 50bhp stock), and a 0 - 60 time in the 20's). This is why I told friends that the new Z/28 going to be arguably the best track car in existence no matter if it could get to sub 4 second 0 - 60. People forget that almost 5 sec 0 - 60 was an absolutely unbelievable feat done only by the like of the crazy Porsche 930 Turbo, another car I have driven. I am a huge Ferrari fan and also a Porsche fan for he racing. Porsche is a far better daily car with great gas mileage, reliability and every day use, Ferrari is an better experience, (driven a Belinetta Boxer, Testtarossa, 328, and 430) BMW's are true drivers mainly through chassis setup, (just check out the camber and you can see that). Just think that guys should be car guys and love all of them instead of hating on some with information you don't directly have by driving them instead what you have read.
I love both cars, born and raised in Motor City so both these cars have places in my heart. The Viper is my all time favorite, however. The Viper has always looked more aggressive and, for the most part, has been numbers wise to back up the looks. Yes the Vette has some edges over the Viper, no doubt, but the Viper has much more... potential. The C6 ZR1 had an impressive 638hp... from a maxed out Supercharged V8, not much can be done to it other than a tune, while the Viper is pretty much a bare bones (excluding the electronics) V10 putting out 640hp with so much potential. I see arguments from people on here about V8's that can be (key words "can be)" more powerful, but thats through forced induction, not in the same class. Example, turbo or supercharge the Viper's V10 and put it against the ZR1... it's not fair. I also like the Viper more because it doesnt have as much plastic body panels as the C6 ZR1, now the C7 has more CF and FG, and Yes it saves weight but to me, its pretty cheap (@ plastic body panel remark). Plus, to me, it seems like the Viper had more heart put into the design, complete redesign, yet you still see hints of past Viper years thrown into it with a modern twist. the Vette, again my opinion, looks like a frankenstein of 4 or more cars, viper/ferrari 458 like headlamps, c6 style front end upgraded, squished camaro style taillamps, gallardo style rear QP's, "double bubble roof" like the viper always had that vette fans made fun of, etc... It looks good, dont get me wrong, just looks more of a collage. Again I love both cars, but the Viper is and will always be my favorite.
Beautiful cars and the sound is like music to my ears!! I found it a little BS how much they resembled each other though. When you think of the Dodge Viper and its only American opponent... it would be The Chevy Corvette, so for both to look so similar kinda takes the fun outta the competition!!
I agree completely. In my previous statement I say how the Corvette does resemble the Viper from the front.. a bit disappointing really, but hey, we weren't the GM design team!
Maybe most viewers here arent really performance enthusiasts but these two cars arent in the same ballpark. The direct competitor will be the Z06, not a base model. The Z06 and Viper differ by only 10 horsepower while these two differ by almost 200 hp. The Z06 and Viper also share a similar price tag which Viper has lowered by 10k in order to compete. Some people mentioned these two differ by 50k and are almost the same speed? I've raced and won against stingrays on the drag strip, they are far from Viper speed...
I own a C7 and also love the Viper. Respect both American sports cars as competition between each other makes them better. The Stingray wouldn't be as good of a car if it didn't have a viper to compete with, and the Viper wouldn't be where it is now if it didn't have the Vette in its sights. Love em' both.
I like how viper gas kept the look. And have you guys heard of the 2015 Corvette Stingray Z06 600+ hp supercharged LT4 Corvette teased by GM. Its more areodynamic, more powerful, better stopping and better controlling to run with the srt-10. Viper has the base, GTS (which is running with this base model corvette) and the srt. So far corvette only has one model for this gen, cant wait for the 2nd (performance) model!
As the presenter says, both are great. I remember one description: Corvette: jet fighter for the road Viper: town to town suface missle. Both look great, both sound great, and if you have one in europe you are in the minority. I miss my old 87. If you own one of these everyone thinks you are mad. On the other hand, they all think they look great. The best thing is that these perform as well as any other sports / super car that there is. Owning one will put you in a more exclusive club. Here in europe the number of Porche and Ferrari's I see on the road puts them in the role of 'ordinary' and an every day common car, even worse is that you can now get a Porche 4*4, family car etc. They are diluting the mark. I know that people are going to say that Dodge produce the RT10 RAM, or GM have the Escalade. but they don't stick a viper / corvette badge on the front! That's what I love about GM and dodge, you can get these crazy engines in other vehicle if you want, and not have to pay the nutty price tag.
Good, fair and positive review. I am a Viper guy for many reasons, but I like the ZR1 and Z06. The C7's interior is much improved but I don't like the style with the camaro lights, all the sharp polygonal angles and then squeezing 4 round exhaust pipes on top of one another. They didn't quite get it right.
this is one of only two ( and the other is now waivering ) people that calls the Viper refined - race drivers, test track drivers, and the great, great majority of reviewers call it a handful - the 'Vette tested is ok, too, but is young and will get even better - I would take either one and I'm a FORD GUY !
wow i think this is the first vette viper review where i havent seen bashing the comments i am proud that they are american, and i personally love them both and wouldnt mind owning either of them
Vipers LED's are much brighter. Wish it got better gas mileage though. Still might have to choose it over the Vette. I see the new Vettes everywhere now its like the prius lol. MURICA
the final peel out with the vette and viper next each other in the last 10 seconds of the clip sums it all up. The vette pulls straight away and the viper is breaking lose and fish tailing… the Viper is all power… no finesse
All these comments about the viper looking better is just so wrong! Viper looks so dated compared to the c7, btw vipers don't sell even close to what the vette does
BIGGIEDEVIL C7 came from the 2014 Vanquish, F-Type, 2013 Viper. The rear end is so long on the C7, it can be considered to have 3 trunks on it, like a kitcar. The Corvette needs FOUR exhaust pipes(rice) for you to hear its small v8 motor producing....still not as much power than a Viper, even a supercharged Vette barely takes on a regular Viper GTS.
while i love both, the base model corvette is not a supercar THOUGH the new Z07 / Z06 will qualify as a supercar the base model is not kinda like how the ZR1 is a supercar but the Z51 C6 corvette was not, the viper is a supercar but for the GTS you are looking at 140 - 160+ USD which for a car like the viper is a bit much, either way i want to see more of these in europe, cant wait to see the New viper and the New corvette super cars (Z06/z07 and ZR1)
The Viper is BY FAR the better choice in terms of style, performance and it's overall appeal.. however, where I to actually PAY for one of these, it would be a no brainer to choose the Corvette. Damn near same level performance, less expensive and easier to live with/drive daily.
$60k for C7 w/Z51 more of a performance bargain than $100k for the Viper. You can daily drive a C7, and it has trunk space. A Viper is exotica. If I were spending $100k+ on a car it wouldn't likely be a Viper. Don't agree with me? Check the sales figures for the two cars.
talk is cheap these cars are not.buy one of these new vipers ,drive it ,race it and then make comments, until you do , then do not say anything because you will sound foolish
Ive had a 96 viper gts twin turbo for years and yes they do need a automatic, or a smg trans. Thats why I sold it. My viper was very primitive compared to all the rest of my cars. I just liked to look at it like a peace of art and not drive it.
I'm neither a Vet guy or A Viper guy, but I love them both! America!
That would actually make you both a Vette guy and a Viper guy. If you hated them both, then you'd be neither.
the viper looked fantastic next to the vette!
TRUE!Especially with LED lights on!
Are you sure it didn't look like an over-sized clown shoe?
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@@VerisimilitudeDude yes I always thought that
I just like the sound of the Viper... One of the best sounding engines ever!
2:49 wow the viper looks way better!
The ending is the best part, love the Viper
the way the Viper flows is so beautiful. It makes me smile.
that ending shows how much more powerful the Viper is haha
it also costs a good 40k more
Mustafa Kilinc wow really?
ya the this the starting corvette. not the z06 or the zr1. although i have no idea about z06 and zr1 plans for this this new c7 corvette. even if we will recieve those i would assume that chevy would give it a good couple of years with how wonderfully the base c7 vette is being recieved. 60k for the vette vs 100k for the viper
Mustafa Kilinc Yeah dude I was fucking with you. I know the Vette is cheaper. But if you compare a base Viper at 100k to the C6 ZR1 at 150k the argument flip flops. Truth is there are Viper fans and Vette fans and price points are not going to change that. If you like the Vette because it's cheaper then great get you a Vette, but don't try to shove your subjective opinion down other's throats.
Patrick Austin Whoa. Since when does a ZR1 cost $150K? No dice on that argument. Try again.
Both cars are amazing. The end.
Wrong
As Americans, we should appreciate BOTH of these cars! Not bashing one or the other. If you're bashing either one of these cars? You're bashing America! They're should be a law like that here in the states. If you bash the Corvette or the Viper, you face the death penalty for treason... *PERIOD!*
exactly, what with this civil war!? Lets embrace America
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And forget that one of them is Italian.
krocialblack: YEAH FORGET THE AMENDMENTS, WE SHOULD ARREST ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH OUR VIEWPOINTS! *sarcasm*
thlin Umm, I think krocialblack was using hyperbole. Lighten up, dude.
***** niether one of these cars is italian
This guy drives with the steering wheel in his neck..!
For real.. That airbag is gonna blow his head off when it deploys.
Maybe he has short legs? They would have to be really short though to justify being right next to the steering wheel. lol
JDMricist lol true
It's almost like his chin was glued to the steering wheel.
I gotta say that is the best end to a car video I think I ever seen.
The American sports car is the most underrated sports car, bar none. I would gladly take one of these, or the Ford GT to anything across the pond.
I couldn't be happier both of these cars are being built, and that was an awesome video! I like this guy
Its amazing how well chevy did making the vette front end mimic the one and only viper
And have you seen the dash? It is a lot like the viper lol. Almost a total copy. Has a pic of the vette like the viper has of the viper and they look a lot alike.
Josiah Marihugh Meh, the dash on a lot of cars pretty much look the same.
Josiah Marihugh
Please reference the dash of a 1990 - 1996 C4 Corvette. The interior lines are exactly the same in the C7. In no way, shape, or fashion did GM 'copy' the Viper. If you think otherwise than clearly you're biased. Funny, the front of the C7 looks very similar to the C6... whose renderings were released in 2002.
I love the shots of them passing by. They're so graceful yet so powerful.
The Viper is sexy, but Corvettes have always been some of the best looking cars.
Cade Del Rey Originally a luxury sportscars. The Cobras= racecars. Viper= Cobra. GM runs out of design ideas. I own an '81 Trans Am. I know this.
We live in the golden age of HP. Lots of great American cars to chose from. I love them all. I'm considering the Viper because i love the analog rawness of the car, and i may see one per year in all my travels.
Hand built in DETROIT. Over 600hp. Killer sexy shape. More exclusive than the Vette AND THE PRICE JUST WAS DROPPED 15k! I would LOVE to have a Viper! Go Dodge!
The only thing missing is FORD needs something in that space.
Ford has the GT. But they should make an updated model of it for 2014/15 to go alongside with these two new models.
Dreaklock
Until then, the operative term is "had", past tense.
I will go on and say, its unlikely it'll be 2014 or 2015. The Mustang goes on sale in mid to late 2014 and the last thing FORD will want is anything detracting from the Mustang, even if such a sports car is only a concept and won't be in production for at least 2-3 years after that. Also keep in mind, FORD spent the better part of 10 years teasing with sports car concepts before building the FORD GT and then teased the GR-1 and the Shelby Cobra but NEVER built either for sale. Such a car may very well be a tease and nothing more.
That said, somehow another limited production sports car from FORD (The Viper is low volume) is NOT going to impress as much as tenured cars like the Corvette and Viper. As wonderful as the Ford GT was, it was badly flawed to such as degree it was not a good racing car, where most sports cars make their reps. A car company can only make a sports car once in blue moon, and have it be good at everything a sports car is supposed to be good at, if they are making sports cars on a regular basis. FORD has not done that level of work for almost a decade now. GM and CHRYSLER have. Sorry the Mustang does NOT count. You have to reach higher than that.
So the Ford Sports car will be celebrated just for being and it should make a good show of it, like the Ford GT did. But in the long run, it needs regular updates and new versions going forward.
DocWolph What the hell are you talking about? The Ford GT wasn't all about handling but it did outrun the C6 Z06 around road courses when both were in production. Ford GT's are still world-class supercars by today's standards. The build quality is excellent, they've appreciated to over $200,000 and they're literally unstoppable in the standing mile...
2013FiveOh
You really need to look into the FORD GT, with the beer goggles off. It was great when the car first came out, but fell off quickly. The car was NEVER able to compete very well at the track versus anything after it's first season at ALMS, including the the C6 Zo6 or G2 Viper. FORD did not put a strong factory support on the car like AUDI and PORSCHE do, nor did they have a standing factory team like Chevrolet and Ferrari do.
It was not the best performing on the street either. Forget the Europeans and that ass-headed Top Gear review, (Who knew Clarkson did not know how to take care of a car that did not need that much attention?), the C6 Z06 and ZR-1 and the Viper were just better on the street, as well. car mags glomed over the car because they finally got to drive a "GT-40", but the car was just left behind because FORD did not even actually want to build the car and bowed to fan sentiment inside and outside the company. At least CHRYSLER and GM WANT their sports cars.
How can I say that? Simple, Why did FORD only aim for 1500 car a year or 3 years production, which ever happened first, and then did not follow up with GR-1? They never wanted a sports car. It was something to shut you fans up.
Now, the C6 Zo6 will outrun and outhandle the GT fairly easily, and that was BEFORE it was upgraded to deal with the GT-R better. Doesn't hurt that the C6 Zo6 is noticeably lighter and the Viper is much more powerful than the FORD GT.
The Ford GT you are referring to, puling about 235mph or so at the Texas Flying mile, is a heavily modified car and "tuner cars do not count toward the abilities of the car as produced". Otherwise, you could say a Civic can outrun a Ferrari because someone tuned a Civic dragster to be faster. Obviously, you can not buy a Civic that is that fast and I seriously doubt anyone but a pro will even go that far to build such. This rule applies to ALL cars, and so a tuned/modded FORD GT does not count toward how fast the actual production car is.
The Ford GT also appreciates in price only because FORD only made about ~4300 units and never made anymore or a follow up. In short, FORD made a collector's car. That simple. If CHRYSLER never got back to making Vipers, the cars sold would appreciate, as well, just as quickly.
The FORD GT was a good first effort, but the car needed to be tenured like the Corvette and Viper. The car needed continued development and support by FORD. That did not happen.
So if you are still wondering where my head is at on this, now you know.
You have obvious hatred towards to Ford GT, and you miss the point of the car entirely. You are also misinformed. Verified Nordschleife lap time of the Ford GT is 7:40.6. The C6 Z06 lapped in 7:42.99 when both cars were in production. Not to mention that the Ford GT was miles ahead in quality (as it well should be or the price, obviously) meaning that your little tidbit about the Z06 being "better on the street" is horseshit. It had a harsh rde throughout it's entire lifespan and was much louder in terms of wind noise at highway speeds. The car would wear you down much faster on a long trip, every time. Not that I care, I prefer lighter, stripped-out cars, i'm not exactly old. But! You brought it up, while being incorrect.
You're also a little behind on the record sir. It's 283 mph, followed closely by several 270 and high 260 mph passes, all made by Ford GT's. Everything else that tries to run this fast in the mile either spins out, blows up, or both. (Corvettes and Lambos for example, as well as that Gen4 Camaro with 2,000+ hp, it ended up a pile of burnt plastic and a crumpled roll cage) Engine, suspension and frame mods aside, the aerodynamics remain unchanged in these Ford GT's. They don't even use aftermarket rear wings or anything in the mile, they're perfectly stable decelerating from 260+ mph with a 100% stock body. The same cannot be said for the aero effects of *any* other "production" car with the exception of the Bugatti Veyron SS, arguably. So get over yourself. You're trying to take something away from a car that is, in essence, a supercar godfather reborn.
Love how over the years the vett looks more and more like a viper with each new model! You can't hardly tell them apart from the front now! Please come up with your own ideas Chevy!
I AGREE! & I'm a Chevy Fan!, but I don't like Chevy stealing looks & ideals from the Viper! Personally I hate the Vette looks after the c-4s! No more POP UP HEADLIGHTS after the c-5s! Vetts UGLY exhaust pipes in the center of rear instead of tradition, to the rear sides (true duals). This ended on c-4 Vetts!
A Corvette doesn't have the Chevy accents & features(American looks) after the c-4 generation. The c-5s & up look no more foreign to me! Corvette lost its looks/heritage after the c-4 generation to me. The last Vette feature I liked was on the c-5. The last of the POP UP HEADLIGHTS! The ugly exhaust pipes started on the c-5s & remain current on later Vettes!
I think you have it backwards
Banshee and the Corquette. I like them both.
Absolutely love both of these cars and I am privileged to own one of them.
This was an entertaining video! This guy has good energy, and this vid wasn't as boring as other automobile mag vids.
Agreed
Its about time somebody comes with the "stop the hate" message!! Well done video....well done!!
Wish the Viper was more affordable in Sweden.
It is a killer! If it was cheaper than the Nissan GTR i'd buy it every day.
I love the end of the video when both the cars break loose a little when they hit 2nd.
Worth it all for the ending. Nice.
the viper looks better
Much, MUCH Better
Both cars are a great bang for the buck in their price range. I have a problem with the fixed roof on the Viper. I like my sports cars like I like my women, TOPLESS.
I hear ya. That has been an issue for me as well, but if we are going to use the female analogy, consider this. The Corvette has without question, and I'm not alone on this, the ugliest rear end ever placed on a sports car. I like my women topless, but I'll take the curvaceous girl with the beautiful ass over the sharp, boney one that should pull her sweater down and hide that thing. As the great Joe Cocker once said: "You can leave your hat on." Viper: "You can leave your top on". Corvette: "Don't be shakin' that thing around me!!" "Oh, and by the way, pull that sweater down!! That thing is hideous."
Lee Douglas LOL!
Lee Douglas Yes, the corvettes Optimus Prime rear end is pretty horrid.
Oh shit
His last comment was the best: "...these two cars make each other better..."
Great video. I really wish Ford still made the Ford GT thought, I would love to see where they would be with it today and if it would match up with the Viper and Vette or blow them out of the water!
I'd be just fine with driving either of them. American engineering at it's finest.
Crazy how much the Vette looks like the Viper in the front.
emmm, Not really at all if you have seen them in person, they look NOTHING alike in person, completely two different designs. Even with the headlights.
I love both of these cars! I am proud to be an american and see these 2 cars. Badass american cars! But power wise. Of course the Viper has more because this is the base model Vette. And the video isnt about which is more powerful, it about how we should be proud we made these badass cars!
The two greatest track cars on earth
Best car review I've seen in a long time. This guy is awesome
i have the C7, and i do love Viper as well.
2 Masterpieces
I can't understand why people hate on any car. I hear people talk about what it a car as far as times on the Nurburgring or 0 - 60, or on a track. 99% have never been on a race track or the Nordscheleife, autobahn, or even drag strip. Fact is that nobody is going to go 200 on the street and no matter if your car can do that will it matter in your daily life.
Being a person who restored English sports cars like Jaguar, Austin Healey, Triumph, MG, etc, a hot rodder with 62 Chevy II , 67 Dodge Coronet with Hemi, 69 Mustang Mach 1 with 428, and AMC AMX, who is currently working on a 38 Dodge with my son, and has driven the autobahn, Nurburgring in a 2006 Cobra, Miata, and 73 Carrera, who had a SCCA license and raced Super V's and a Bug Eye Sprite, I know something about cars.
I remember racing against V8 Mustangs and other higher horsepower cars with my Sprite and really embarassing them on a twisty track due to a better chassis set up on a car that really couldn't get out of it's own way as far as horsepower, (less than 50bhp stock), and a 0 - 60 time in the 20's). This is why I told friends that the new Z/28 going to be arguably the best track car in existence no matter if it could get to sub 4 second 0 - 60. People forget that almost 5 sec 0 - 60 was an absolutely unbelievable feat done only by the like of the crazy Porsche 930 Turbo, another car I have driven.
I am a huge Ferrari fan and also a Porsche fan for he racing. Porsche is a far better daily car with great gas mileage, reliability and every day use, Ferrari is an better experience, (driven a Belinetta Boxer, Testtarossa, 328, and 430) BMW's are true drivers mainly through chassis setup, (just check out the camber and you can see that).
Just think that guys should be car guys and love all of them instead of hating on some with information you don't directly have by driving them instead what you have read.
I LOVE THEM BOTH !!!! CANT WAIT TO OWN ONE !!
I love both cars, born and raised in Motor City so both these cars have places in my heart. The Viper is my all time favorite, however. The Viper has always looked more aggressive and, for the most part, has been numbers wise to back up the looks. Yes the Vette has some edges over the Viper, no doubt, but the Viper has much more... potential. The C6 ZR1 had an impressive 638hp... from a maxed out Supercharged V8, not much can be done to it other than a tune, while the Viper is pretty much a bare bones (excluding the electronics) V10 putting out 640hp with so much potential. I see arguments from people on here about V8's that can be (key words "can be)" more powerful, but thats through forced induction, not in the same class. Example, turbo or supercharge the Viper's V10 and put it against the ZR1... it's not fair. I also like the Viper more because it doesnt have as much plastic body panels as the C6 ZR1, now the C7 has more CF and FG, and Yes it saves weight but to me, its pretty cheap (@ plastic body panel remark). Plus, to me, it seems like the Viper had more heart put into the design, complete redesign, yet you still see hints of past Viper years thrown into it with a modern twist. the Vette, again my opinion, looks like a frankenstein of 4 or more cars, viper/ferrari 458 like headlamps, c6 style front end upgraded, squished camaro style taillamps, gallardo style rear QP's, "double bubble roof" like the viper always had that vette fans made fun of, etc... It looks good, dont get me wrong, just looks more of a collage. Again I love both cars, but the Viper is and will always be my favorite.
Beautiful cars and the sound is like music to my ears!! I found it a little BS how much they resembled each other though. When you think of the Dodge Viper and its only American opponent... it would be The Chevy Corvette, so for both to look so similar kinda takes the fun outta the competition!!
I agree completely. In my previous statement I say how the Corvette does resemble the Viper from the front.. a bit disappointing really, but hey, we weren't the GM design team!
I would definitely love to have either... or both LoL
Most definitely!
I would love to have both of these in my driveway!!!!! awesome cars!!!!!!
Maybe most viewers here arent really performance enthusiasts but these two cars arent in the same ballpark. The direct competitor will be the Z06, not a base model. The Z06 and Viper differ by only 10 horsepower while these two differ by almost 200 hp. The Z06 and Viper also share a similar price tag which Viper has lowered by 10k in order to compete. Some people mentioned these two differ by 50k and are almost the same speed? I've raced and won against stingrays on the drag strip, they are far from Viper speed...
I own a C7 and also love the Viper. Respect both American sports cars as competition between each other makes them better. The Stingray wouldn't be as good of a car if it didn't have a viper to compete with, and the Viper wouldn't be where it is now if it didn't have the Vette in its sights. Love em' both.
two gorgeous cars...
yeah the viper really showed off its amazing traction at the end haha
And how it pulled ahead of the Vette...
Gotta love these beasts, looking forward to the 24 hours at Daytona!
Best end-of-video EVER!
Two gorgeous cars going head to head....I really don't care who wins.
I like how viper gas kept the look. And have you guys heard of the 2015 Corvette Stingray Z06 600+ hp supercharged LT4 Corvette teased by GM. Its more areodynamic, more powerful, better stopping and better controlling to run with the srt-10. Viper has the base, GTS (which is running with this base model corvette) and the srt. So far corvette only has one model for this gen, cant wait for the 2nd (performance) model!
Two of my favorite cars this year go USA
He's right, make this rival!
Right foot is tingling!
VIPER FOREVER!
Laitharex try again
I love these cars
He's one to talk about pansy sissified cars... "Oh that's good stuff!"
Super magnificent.
Whoever loses... we win!!! Thank you very much US!!!
Good video. There are only a handful of American cars I really like & these are 2 of them. Never owned a Viper but I have owned 2 vettes in the past.
As the presenter says, both are great. I remember one description:
Corvette: jet fighter for the road
Viper: town to town suface missle.
Both look great, both sound great, and if you have one in europe you are in the minority. I miss my old 87.
If you own one of these everyone thinks you are mad. On the other hand, they all think they look great.
The best thing is that these perform as well as any other sports / super car that there is. Owning one will put you in a more exclusive club. Here in europe the number of Porche and Ferrari's I see on the road puts them in the role of 'ordinary' and an every day common car, even worse is that you can now get a Porche 4*4, family car etc. They are diluting the mark.
I know that people are going to say that Dodge produce the RT10 RAM, or GM have the Escalade. but they don't stick a viper / corvette badge on the front!
That's what I love about GM and dodge, you can get these crazy engines in other vehicle if you want, and not have to pay the nutty price tag.
I'm a Mustang man myself but I really enjoyed this! #MERICA!
Good, fair and positive review.
I am a Viper guy for many reasons, but I like the ZR1 and Z06.
The C7's interior is much improved but I don't like the style with the camaro lights, all the sharp polygonal angles and then squeezing 4 round exhaust pipes on top of one another. They didn't quite get it right.
this is one of only two ( and the other is now waivering ) people that calls the Viper refined - race drivers, test track drivers, and the great, great majority of reviewers call it a handful - the 'Vette tested is ok, too, but is young and will get even better - I would take either one and I'm a FORD GUY !
Viper all day long !!!
Love the ending
viper
Great video about 2 great cars!!
wow i think this is the first vette viper review where i havent seen bashing the comments i am proud that they are american, and i personally love them both and wouldnt mind owning either of them
either would do here as well!
love this type of on road on track side by side running.
viper. I don't care if the corvette is a better daily driver. just give me the viper.
The viper will awes be the best car on the mrcet I have a viper
Can a viper beat a BMW m6 their is a gpower m6 and the car viper to compare but who will win m6 or viper
An M3 will smoke that M6. I had a 95 325i. Viper still wins
Two amazing machines! I prefer the C7, but hey, I'd be thrilled to own a Viper.
Vipers LED's are much brighter. Wish it got better gas mileage though. Still might have to choose it over the Vette. I see the new Vettes everywhere now its like the prius lol. MURICA
That Stingray looks damn good!
the final peel out with the vette and viper next each other in the last 10 seconds of the clip sums it all up. The vette pulls straight away and the viper is breaking lose and fish tailing… the Viper is all power… no finesse
Finesse? WTF?
Beautiful ending!
All these comments about the viper looking better is just so wrong! Viper looks so dated compared to the c7, btw vipers don't sell even close to what the vette does
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BIGGIEDEVIL C7 came from the 2014 Vanquish, F-Type, 2013 Viper. The rear end is so long on the C7, it can be considered to have 3 trunks on it, like a kitcar. The Corvette needs FOUR exhaust pipes(rice) for you to hear its small v8 motor producing....still not as much power than a Viper, even a supercharged Vette barely takes on a regular Viper GTS.
They look similar.. I like that
They both look so identical I almost couldn't tell which is which😂 I like the Corvette tho.
while i love both, the base model corvette is not a supercar THOUGH the new Z07 / Z06 will qualify as a supercar the base model is not kinda like how the ZR1 is a supercar but the Z51 C6 corvette was not, the viper is a supercar but for the GTS you are looking at 140 - 160+ USD which for a car like the viper is a bit much, either way i want to see more of these in europe, cant wait to see the New viper and the New corvette super cars (Z06/z07 and ZR1)
awesome rides. love them both
the Vette has some Aston martin Rear lights, damn they look good. If i was in the market for one of these think id take the Stingray though.
God Bless America!
who thinks chevy copied the viper i mean come on they look exactly the same now
How did he manage to sit so close to the steering wheel in seats that are so deep into the chasis?
The Viper is BY FAR the better choice in terms of style, performance and it's overall appeal.. however, where I to actually PAY for one of these, it would be a no brainer to choose the Corvette. Damn near same level performance, less expensive and easier to live with/drive daily.
Z06 is faster than both of these looks better, sounds better, and its cheaper.
theres your answer pick the Z06 if you want all mentioned. ^^^
cant wait to see the viper vs the new z06.
Stingray is better in my perspective but I do love both!
guy sits to close to the steering wheel
nah thats how small the cab is
$60k for C7 w/Z51 more of a performance bargain than $100k for the Viper. You can daily drive a C7, and it has trunk space. A Viper is exotica. If I were spending $100k+ on a car it wouldn't likely be a Viper. Don't agree with me? Check the sales figures for the two cars.
talk is cheap these cars are not.buy one of these new vipers ,drive it ,race it and then make comments, until you do , then do not say anything because you will sound foolish
forged internals.... BAM won that forever
merica!!!!
Michael tucker fuck yeahhh🤪
Fantastic !!
It says it all at 3:17 till the end.
Love em.
love both.this guyis god
I've had a Viper and I've had a vette. if I had the money I have both of them at the same time
Viper was WAY ahead in that drag race. Yeah baby!!
Ive had a 96 viper gts twin turbo for years and yes they do need a automatic, or a smg trans. Thats why I sold it. My viper was very primitive compared to all the rest of my cars. I just liked to look at it like a peace of art and not drive it.
Cool Video!
My to favorite cars!
C7 Z06/Z07 is going to be a real man's car without all the happyass stuff that a GTR for example has.
Looking forward to that test..........
do it agein with less power gap (zo6 or what ever it will be called)
I'll take one of each. Though, personally, I think I'm more of a Viper girl.