Vlad Vexler - The Strategy the West Needs to Stop Putin's Aggression.

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  • @johansvensson4515
    @johansvensson4515 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    Vlad is an absolute gem of a human being❤

    • @nuurnwui
      @nuurnwui 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s also a little full of himself. Anyways, Jonathan keeps it interesting. Respect.

    • @MichaTheLight
      @MichaTheLight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like him even if I disagree on some of his positions. Iam convinced he is a great lad to have an intelligent discussion with

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You two should get married in your ivory tower.

  • @sirrodneyffing1
    @sirrodneyffing1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    15mins in. What you guys just did and the way you dealt with it is the epitome of civil discussion.

    • @jeanneknight4791
      @jeanneknight4791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well said.

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It has been a most excellent discussion!

  • @Antek104
    @Antek104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Vlad - great as always ❤ Thank you 🙂 🇵🇱♥️🇺🇦

  • @thomastoadie9006
    @thomastoadie9006 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    An example of a conversation I would love to be the standard of discourse everywhere.

    • @cherienafo7676
      @cherienafo7676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Australia here/ Don't we all.

  • @agabrielhegartygaby9203
    @agabrielhegartygaby9203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Friend of Vlad is a friend of mine glad to find another sane voice in the face of the horrors of war.

  • @sherrillwhately7586
    @sherrillwhately7586 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I found your channel because of the first time you had Vlad Vexler as a guest! And I watch all your videos!

  • @tertiusduplessis2581
    @tertiusduplessis2581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    My 2 most favoured intellectuals. Thank you.

    • @ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΕΒΡΕΝΟΓΛΟΥ
      @ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΕΒΡΕΝΟΓΛΟΥ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is Jonathan an intellectual?

    • @Silver-fh4fb
      @Silver-fh4fb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just two very eloquent people engaged in a conversation.

    • @MonteRosa849
      @MonteRosa849 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΕΒΡΕΝΟΓΛΟΥ Yes he is! A very thoughtful, pragmatic and intelligent one!!👏👍

    • @Rickuttto
      @Rickuttto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes! With Konstantin and Anna too!!

  • @draganjagodic4056
    @draganjagodic4056 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Sincere respect to You and our Vlad, dear Jonathan.

  • @djparn007
    @djparn007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Thank you, Jonathan and Vlad. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

  • @czhillimedia2391
    @czhillimedia2391 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Always a pleasure to hear you both in conversation.

  • @DeepFinger-UA
    @DeepFinger-UA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Best channel since i understand English !
    Jonathan and Vlad, you’re awesome 👏🏼
    Thanks to the both of you !
    🇺🇦❤️🖤

  • @mvjh2277
    @mvjh2277 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    American citizen here, who the friendly staff of my district U.S. representative recognized my voice today, I call often. 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇱

    • @davidl.7317
      @davidl.7317 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    • @bobouzala
      @bobouzala 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ❤❤

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @0Logan05
      @0Logan05 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/_Yr0HNTBLSs/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

    • @niallodonnell7827
      @niallodonnell7827 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Keep calling friend

  • @Grahamgusbull
    @Grahamgusbull 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Two of my favourite human beings discussing the most important world problem,thanks fellers👍🇬🇧🇺🇦

  • @lez5294
    @lez5294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Thank you both for existing and allow us to witness your conversation !

  • @farang_lao
    @farang_lao 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Been waiting for this one. Vlad is a perfect guest speaker for the channel 👍

  • @gheiberg59
    @gheiberg59 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Always glad to listen to Vladimir!

  • @thedownwardmachine
    @thedownwardmachine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Yes! Two of my favorites! Discussing the world’s most boring evil!

    • @RuneDrageon
      @RuneDrageon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      'Boring' is the new 'banal', you heard it here first!

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@RuneDrageon that already meant that! ordinary is banal is boring.

    • @pontusmalmstrom1055
      @pontusmalmstrom1055 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RuneDrageonBeing witty is not the new banal, just the same old...

    • @RuneDrageon
      @RuneDrageon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pontusmalmstrom1055 It was a play on words with Hannah Arendts 'Banality of evil' in relation to the totalitarianism of the Nazis.

    • @JingleJangleJam
      @JingleJangleJam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RuneDrageon Also the earlier feudal word was ''bannal'', a lord's mill, as in a ''bannal mill'', that was common to all for use.

  • @battragon
    @battragon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most cordial exchange between two powerful information warriors!

  • @markendicott6874
    @markendicott6874 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Excellent episode - Vlad is always a welcome voice of sanity.

  • @paulscarff8100
    @paulscarff8100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Vlad the thoughtful voice of reason thank you for your insight

  • @ott1887
    @ott1887 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Im subbed to all of Vlads channels, good man

  • @2russo.phobic4u
    @2russo.phobic4u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Love it! Keep going strong mr Fink. We will prevail.

  • @robertroot3790
    @robertroot3790 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Jonathon--your point @ 15:20 about a lack of strategy--spot on!

    • @pindapoy1596
      @pindapoy1596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @robertroot3790 Nobody had a strategy in the Western world, the Brits following the US direction, the EU following an unelected president commissioner called Ursula VonderLeyen, NATO following the US lead.
      It amonts to brainless gaming that killed 1/2 a million Ukrainians, destroyed their country, caused 2 million refugees and left Ukraine without a young generation. And the cynics want even more money to be invested because they can't afford to lose face and admit reality. Keep listening to Vlad, it will serve you well.

  • @eastbaystreet1242
    @eastbaystreet1242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am so very happy I have found you two gentle men. Please keep going. And thank you.

  • @treesetc3305
    @treesetc3305 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This was a much better interview than the long rambling interview I watched with the ‘other Vlad’.

    • @pindapoy1596
      @pindapoy1596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @treesetc3305 You most likely do not have the mental capacity needed to understand what the "other Vlad" said or meant.

  • @stephie52
    @stephie52 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Jonathan, have you ever interviewed Jake Broe? He is an ex-military US veteran and fully supports Ukraine.

    • @bobouzala
      @bobouzala 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Jonathan has interviewed Jake - and it was Excellent!
      🇺🇦🌞💙🌻🌾🌾🌾

    • @jessehachey2732
      @jessehachey2732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He has! ❤

    • @pindapoy1596
      @pindapoy1596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @stephie52 That immediately proves how absurd your thinking is. You want him to interview somebody who thinks like you. You do love your bubble where everybody thinks the same. Very comfortable giving you the feedback you expect. Why don't you have the courage to listen to somebody who does not think like you and then judge if you are right or wrong.?

  • @benw5545
    @benw5545 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hello Beautiful Communities! Great discussion you two. Many thanks

  • @lynnebruce
    @lynnebruce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    a very powerful conversation from both of you! How incredibly inciiteful

  • @guydreamr
    @guydreamr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Vlad Vexler is definitely one of the wisest people online today.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has the ability to make bs seem true

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@gmw3083 What "bs" exactly, and why? Or are you just trolling?

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @guydreamr 17:28 so begins vlads impossible fantasy

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@guydreamr 25:27 "I treat experts as sacred." Unless they're John Mearsheimer, Douglas MacGregor, Scott Ritter, or any other expert who says things I don't like...

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guydreamr I had a better timestamped quote from later in the video. It disappeared from the other thread. These two remained...

  • @inzhener2007
    @inzhener2007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you for your help

  • @L.A.6482
    @L.A.6482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    America has become something I don’t recognize anymore as a democracy. If we continue down this road. I’m losing hope in people’s ability to discern truth from fiction and outright lies. We seem to following in Russias footsteps not Europes. And that is giving Putin and fascism so much oxygen it’s frightening.

  • @Aussie_Sue
    @Aussie_Sue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you for having Vlad back. He has taught me to think in 3d. Aussie Sue

  • @ceceliablair9177
    @ceceliablair9177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thank you both for your integrity and sustained efforts! I hope we all think more about what we can further do to help Ukraine, its region and the international “order” in which such an extreme, agonizing war has happened.

  • @thinktwice-me7ie
    @thinktwice-me7ie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    oh! my two favorites ! Wonderful! Thank you.

  • @drreaganeliedithphd6526
    @drreaganeliedithphd6526 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Merci Vlad et Jonathan excellent discours

  • @KarlFullerNZ
    @KarlFullerNZ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you from New Zealand for the intelligent depth of this conversation!

  • @he1ar1
    @he1ar1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Vlad is doing a great service to philosophy. And illuminating the places where we can go to look for the insights we need to begin formulating the questions we need to ask.

  • @TheVideoRaf
    @TheVideoRaf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vlad is awesome with his awesome insights about the mind and soul of Russian world!

  • @sweinnc
    @sweinnc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you both.

  • @GloriaHoulihan
    @GloriaHoulihan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I watch you Jonathan 😊 Thank you for your guests and Vlad is another channel I watch.

  • @treschlet
    @treschlet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "conflict can be a form of cooperation" is a great value

  • @phild5322
    @phild5322 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bravo!

  • @gregoryadair3223
    @gregoryadair3223 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    what a great conversation. Keep up the great work

  • @frankieprince-i8z
    @frankieprince-i8z 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks guys ❤

  • @douglasfur3808
    @douglasfur3808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    One of my notions is that social media has no sense of proportion. It appears to be a conversation but that's an illusion of virtual reality. There is none of the concrete reality of conversation, the body language, nuance of expression, smell or taste.
    It's a pitfall of our social being that we can be blind to the difference.

    • @larsvaahlmar1784
      @larsvaahlmar1784 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you ever read a book? Where is the "concrete reality" by which I assume you mean the senzorial aspect of conversation if you were reading this? You're asking for senzorial from an audio video environment? Were you high when you wrote this comment?

    • @glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049
      @glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s quite remarkable actually when (if you have seen it) Twitter hawkish personalities end up having an in person debate on TH-cam or by live stream - it’s almost like they exist in a different parallel universe because as you say the way that exchange goes is usually far far less aggressive, and far more charitable and productive.

    • @glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049
      @glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@larsvaahlmar1784I mean your comment/reply is sort of a good example of what he is talking about isn’t it - if we were in person in real life you probably wouldn’t talk like that to someone making a quite unobjectionable, general observation about social media , or question if they are intoxicated by drugs.

    • @euromoneys
      @euromoneys 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes everyone that has opinion of their own is on drugs. I agree though the guy is reading script and talking circles n saying nothing. IMO poutine is ded they just delaying their collapse

    • @jessehachey2732
      @jessehachey2732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@euromoneysOf course, you lack the intellectual rigour to comprehend the deep thoughts and advanced discourse displayed by Vlad. They’re leagues above you! SMH. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @z0mbieninja
    @z0mbieninja 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I always love these highly insightful and educational interviews. Thank you!

  • @MissAmethyst58
    @MissAmethyst58 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very interesting discussions.

  • @imaginemetoo
    @imaginemetoo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two great guys ...
    Thank you✌🏻 🇬🇧

    • @imaginemetoo
      @imaginemetoo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SLAVA UKRAINI 🔱🇺🇦
      HEROYAM SLAVA 🇺🇦🔱✌🏻

  • @theresamiller3313
    @theresamiller3313 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love Vlad. Thank you!

  • @jasonlast7091
    @jasonlast7091 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a strong and comical opening from Vlad. Ballsy even. Contrasts so heavily with his relaxed tone. You both do fantastic work.

  • @sophiedaoust9864
    @sophiedaoust9864 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coming in from Vlad Vexler’s audience, this was very interesting ❤

  • @BooleanDisorder
    @BooleanDisorder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really love the first 15 minutes so far!!! Really loved the critique and acknowledgement. Very grown up and very very refreshing. I am so proud of you both so much.

  • @donmcdonald3365
    @donmcdonald3365 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent discoure, one of your best podcasts ever

  • @americanidle76
    @americanidle76 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    We must stand up to him. No appeasement. He can only be stopped by force.

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Didn't you hear Vlad? We have to change the _International Order_ first

    • @laars0001
      @laars0001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Afraid you are right, their culture does not allow them to not conquer. Any change is internal with external guidance and will take 3-4 generations to purge out the old and to just begin with the new.
      Wait or immediately decimate empires like Romans, Hannibal, Golden Hordes etc. but they just didn't change actively, the people who were in charge died off and new people effected change. Just ask history. The not so good empires were replaced and new bad start ups also faces the same thing, ask that guy Adolph.

    • @stefanandersson9616
      @stefanandersson9616 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree partly. Only force makes sense in a mind like that. Crimea must be retaken and defended. That will shake up the gameboard (so to say). It will balance the weight of concerns on both sides (east/west). When that balance is achieved maybe discussions can occure (balance of concerns may, in that context, be aquated with balance of power (like the cold war))

    • @russvet
      @russvet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Вам плевать на мнение крымчан по этому поводу? ​@@stefanandersson9616

    • @pindapoy1596
      @pindapoy1596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @americanidle76 And meantime what should be done with the Southern border. I know; you are one of those Americans who are more interested in Ukraine than in the USA.

  • @stellascott4584
    @stellascott4584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always good to listen to you both. A civilized and respectful opening too! 🇸🇪💙💛🇺🇦

  • @halporter9
    @halporter9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a magnificent, real conversation and exploration of the most foundational issues facing the world today. I would like to think about this more deeply and respond right now, but it is 2:00 am and my 76 y.o. Brain is exhausted, so I will return in the morning. On another note, all of my 5 or so favorite analysts of the Ukrainian crisis, and the world’s response, are becoming noticeably more sophisticated, knowledgeable and seasoned in their presentation of the issues, events, and policies they are engaged with daily. I will return to this tomorrow. But my thanks to both of you.

  • @theresamcpherson7352
    @theresamcpherson7352 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you Jonathan! Another great interview! This is my 1st. time hearing Vlad 's take on where things stand. I look forward to hearing more thoughts from him on this subject.

  • @jed4119
    @jed4119 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lovely to see two of my favourite TH-camrs together. Slava Ukrani 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦

  • @lindablake8799
    @lindablake8799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤Thank you, both! I enjoyed your conversation & insights very much. I am listening to this 9 months after your talk which makes it even more interesting.

  • @barbaracarter6840
    @barbaracarter6840 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    YOU ARE WONDERFUL, brilliant and sweet. I want to send hugs to you both. So informative! Thx

  • @pdd60absorbed12
    @pdd60absorbed12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Cold War barracks mentality in Russia never ended. That was clear to me back in the 1990s but we loved the collective high (and naive peace dividend) from believing so. Soviet legacy was never crushed and judged like the Third Reich. And since the Russians acquired nukes (unlike Nazi Germany) it was always impossible to dismantle the Soviet mindset. Strange how the end of the USSR and emergence of Russia has brought the world closer to nuclear disaster than ever before.

    • @patobrien6364
      @patobrien6364 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You are very correct.
      I spent time in Russia then,
      and the mentality is deeply rooted. Nothing in reality had
      changed. The exact same ship,
      with a new mafia captain

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Expect for a thin sliver of the Intelligentsia, Russians have *never* stopped being serfs. They exchange a Czar for a Commissar

    • @pontusmalmstrom1055
      @pontusmalmstrom1055 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Indeed. The journeys Germany and Japan have made since 1945 are what one would like to see in Russia.
      There are (at least) two conditions that need to exist for this to be possible.
      1. Defeat of the Russian state.
      2. Disciplin and a sense of loyalty to the collective among the population.
      Even if Russia was to be totally defeated, I doubt the culture posesses the determination to adhere to a political vision of democracy and equal opportunities.

    • @Epaminondas371
      @Epaminondas371 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I made a few business trips to Russia in the late 90s and was rather alarmed at the inhumane nature of their society and their utterly absurd rewriting of the WW2.

    • @pontusmalmstrom1055
      @pontusmalmstrom1055 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Epaminondas371 Their "great patriotic war", starting by raping Finland and splitting up Poland between themselves and Nazi Germany. Only to see Hitler stab them in the back and launch a full scale invasion. The "Russians" of Ukraine being the ones to take the major hit, right after Stalin had his way with them in the 30's.
      Nice people the Russians, not! (Although, admittedly, Stalin was from Georgia.)

  • @LanaGrey-db9qp
    @LanaGrey-db9qp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love you both, thank you💙💛

  • @markb8468
    @markb8468 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was a great discussion. Thank both of you.

  • @jimdale9143
    @jimdale9143 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sweet!! My two favorite content creators in a thoughtful exchange if ideas. Something I value in a video is leaving it with something to think about. This video was a banquet of food for thought. Thank you so much!

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @jmcw9632
    @jmcw9632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2 great humans

  • @rachmanmitchell2845
    @rachmanmitchell2845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The theatricity of discourse. How great!How direct and honest.

  • @roelpiepenbrink700
    @roelpiepenbrink700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great insights from the both of you. Thanks for this from the Netherlands 👍🌈

  • @bobouzala
    @bobouzala 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you Jonathan and Vlad soo much! 🌞💙 It’s refreshing to see an alliance of many pro-Ukrainian voices on social media! How can you use this collective power to puncture the main stream media bubble?!?

  • @davidgleinbach7316
    @davidgleinbach7316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RESPECT,
    WE LOVE VLAD, DANGER OF OVER INFLATION,.
    YOU MAY SPEAK, I SHALL LISTEN.
    GREAT SHOE, SOUTH PHILADELPHIA, OUT🔱⭐.

  • @davidgamble6152
    @davidgamble6152 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great show love vlads stuff his latest video is awesome must watch !!

  • @davidfellowes1628
    @davidfellowes1628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very useful discussion. Thanks

  • @andyay9079
    @andyay9079 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I always feel that personal criticism (even well meant and politely delivered) is best served in private.

    • @VladVexler
      @VladVexler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Visceral conversation around trust and audience capture in our informational environment is not personal criticism. It is vital public discourse.

    • @stevehatcher7700
      @stevehatcher7700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Except when criticizing a public figure, who's personality exists, and is expressed, within the public realm. And in that vein, TH-cam personalities, particularly those with subscriber bases and viewer bases in the 10's of thousands, hundred's of thousands and/or million's, certainly are public figures/public personalities, even if within only a certain bubble. And Vlad did that in the most well meant, and most polite, not to mention sincere and effective, manner imaginable. As well, it was delivered KNOWING the recipient would be receptive of, and acknowledge such criticism. As Johnathan was, and did.

    • @stevehatcher7700
      @stevehatcher7700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Both parties offered a masterclass of criticism, well served, and well received, publicly.

    • @cattenborrow
      @cattenborrow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The balloons at 1.05 are hilarious 😂

  • @piseag458
    @piseag458 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Much appreciated both,keep on keeping on.. 🤍✨️🌻

  • @1patula
    @1patula 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It’s funny but until now, I completely forgot why I unsubscribed from Vlad’s channel and his lovely community. And it may be hard to put it in words, but first 13 minutes of conversation reminded me why …I don’t understand his prolonged thinking, his whole persona is indigestible to me. So all in all, I am listening to „silicon curtain” nearly every single day, but today I need to make an exception. Great channel, great guests ( mostly), thank you

    • @jensrasmussenjr
      @jensrasmussenjr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It just occurred to me that Vlad's constant going on about how he fears democracy decline in the west actually is a russian propaganda talking point of sorts. He sneakily sows the distrust he fears. Maybe we should check up on his sponsors?

    • @gjk282
      @gjk282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I would like to invite you to invest a little effort to get past Vlad's persona (which I fully understand can get on people's nerves) to his messages.
      They are an extremely important contribution. Like in this very case, where Jonathan's rightful anger at the Russian aggression led him to lose his cool and make divisive comments within the realm of democratic debate.

    • @hanrako8465
      @hanrako8465 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Fully agree. If I had a friend or colleague who waited until the tape started recording to dedicate 15 minutes for a drawn out critique of me for two tweets I made I would not be impressed. Strange individual. My respect for Jonathan went up a tonne though as he dealt with it very well and with humility.

    • @horrisnorris6478
      @horrisnorris6478 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Vlad walks his viewers through his process of thinking in a prolonged way because his aim as a political philosopher is to encourage people to deeply reflect on and improve their ways of thinking about a given situation, rather than his primary aim being to persuade us to adopt a certain opinion. He also has pretty severe ME which means he's often slower at articulating what he's trying to say than he otherwise would be. If you are able to adjust to the slower pace he has the most thought provoking content I've seen on TH-cam by miles!

    • @zak3744
      @zak3744 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@horrisnorris6478 To be honest I don't think he even talks at a slow pace, he just speaks normally, like a normal person would in a normal conversation at the dinner table, in a lecture or down the pub.
      I can only think perhaps that complaints stem merely from the fact that he *isn't* following that hyperactive, TH-cam-y, never-stopping-to-take-a-breath-or-wonder-what-the-point-was style that seems overly prevalent on this and similar online platforms. (And yes, I'm fully aware that makes me sound like a moany old man. But it's also a real phenomenon!)
      It's like the number of people who I've seen online (in all sorts of different places and contexts, so it's not unique to any specific community) who say they play online videos at faster speed as a matter of course through the video settings: I don't understand it. I generally don't hold much truck with vague complaints of youngsters these days having short attention spans/not reading books anymore/playing too many video games/all of that sort of stuff. But the video speed impatience is a concrete thing, and it's genuinely baffling!

  • @victorivas4897
    @victorivas4897 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how nice to see Vlad here again :) One of my two favorite channels intersecting.

  • @bobbytookalook
    @bobbytookalook 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent all the way through. Intelligent discussion that made me think.

  • @sarahwilliams3424
    @sarahwilliams3424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding conversation - sober and well-informed. So crucial amidst all the hysterical noise. Thank you both.

  • @ldt6513
    @ldt6513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is was a very good conversation between two important voices in these dangerous times. Thank you!

  • @Mark4star1
    @Mark4star1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your both a credit to yourselves and to me you're both honest people, even if we occasionally show we are human.

  • @catherineandpaulfuters2523
    @catherineandpaulfuters2523 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you both for your insights
    🇬🇧🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🇪🇺

  • @Eric-sy1xu
    @Eric-sy1xu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a comment because i love Vlad, love the content being promoted here, love the charities here. Thank you so much.

  • @sujac664
    @sujac664 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EXCELLENT INTERVIEW!!!!!
    ...Your interviews always are, but this was - for me - extremely timely.
    Thank you.

  • @emom358
    @emom358 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks, two of my favourite people on one podcast! Any chance of getting Alexander Stubb since he has become president of Finland?

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Great suggestion - I’ll try!

  • @majormandella330
    @majormandella330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yay! 2 of my most favourite TH-camrs together being brilliant. Thank you!

  • @feraloperacompany
    @feraloperacompany 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Great discussion, and I want to point out that both of you gave each other a lot of space to give long, detailed answers without interrupting each other. So many interviews get derailed because otherwise interesting people don't have self-control.

  • @golddigger8759
    @golddigger8759 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jonathan is very humble, good and intelligent human being ❤

  • @jeanneknight4791
    @jeanneknight4791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jonathan and Vlad, this made my day. Yesterday, the Senate finally passed the aid to Ukraine. That was a good day as well.

  • @kurttrumble6378
    @kurttrumble6378 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vlad is always great to listen to

  • @Epaminondas371
    @Epaminondas371 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done Jonathan.

  • @mariadekelver2240
    @mariadekelver2240 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watching you two individually makes my head work to keep up. Together my head is working overtime. I very much enjoy it.

    • @mirekslechta7161
      @mirekslechta7161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      USA´s greed to bring it´s weapons near to Russia via new NATO members is the real root to this war. BTW, who wants to be helping to a country(Ukraine) which kept killing civilians(russian language speakers) since 2014 ? It is like someone would start helping to a person who started with killing people.......( Russia is helping to civilians in Donbas since those civilians were killed by thousands since 2014) What is the point in this video? It is empty talking only....

  • @alisonstratton2714
    @alisonstratton2714 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vlad thanks for your ability to very clearly explain. Its very helpful.

  • @danielswiegocki3021
    @danielswiegocki3021 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ❤ from 🇨🇦

  • @bellbookcandle3051
    @bellbookcandle3051 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Hello, beautiful community!"😉 Loved seeing you both together again! 👏💙🇺🇦

  • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
    @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic interview. Thank you for sharing. This is the insight that more in the west, particularly our leaders, need to be hearing. Some of them lack any sense of realpolitik.

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👍👍👍

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SiliconCurtain Still laughing over how Putin fcked himself with that comment about Poland allegedly starting WW2 by not being nice enough to Hitler. Set off alarm bells all over Europe, encouraged his US lackey to say he'd let Russia take NATO territories that don't pay their dues. They could not have done a better job of dipping themselves in sht.

  • @dougjones4538
    @dougjones4538 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You gentlemen are exactly that.

  • @blakekeithley3400
    @blakekeithley3400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love Vlad to death but a conversation with him can be best described by the Beatles song”All Around The Universe”

    • @neilfox3208
      @neilfox3208 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      talking to philosophers can be like that

  • @Ymirjarr
    @Ymirjarr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Seeing you on Silicon curtain AGAIN made me the happiest this week!

  • @uribensh
    @uribensh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best gust, thanks you both

  • @davidcooke2804
    @davidcooke2804 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Subbed on this interview