My Concerns Of The Silent Hill 2 Remake (And Why They Don't Matter)

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  • @Sputnik34
    @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I understand that original games trailer had a lot of combat but with the success of more "action-horror" titles recently is what brings me concern especially with Konami. it's entirely possible that they could be trying to chase the action trend and shove more action into the game.
    it's not likely and in fact, i DON'T think it will be the case, but it's definitely something to have concerns over until we get the final game in our hands! :')

  • @Melevite
    @Melevite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I completely agree in regards to subtlety. They need to keep the scary sounds you'd hear in the very beginning as you're making your way into town or the invisible prison monster, the letters that build up the history of the town up until it directly addresses you, the player, into coming to terms with what you had done. Even the scream mid hallway that completely catches you off guard right before your first encounter with Pyramid head.

  • @makia3
    @makia3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remake more like demake.
    My main concern is the camera, not framing the game in an intentional way is going to remove a lot of the atmosphere which IMO is a major part of the game and why it’s scary.

  • @ModestMouseTrap
    @ModestMouseTrap 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Some of you dont remember the original game. The original Silent Hill 2 is NOT subtle. Theres literally giant red scribbling on the wall that says "TO HELL!"

    • @Yay248
      @Yay248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is not an obviously direct quote relating to James. This doesn't reveal anything. Its far too vague to be anything revealing, unlike Reap What You Sow. If the quote said “Go to Hell!” Or “You’re going to Hell!” That would not be subtle. Here, it’s just pointing to where Hell is. It could possibly even be a weird joke or prank meant to scare the player or make them feel unsettled.

    • @Shrukin9000
      @Shrukin9000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Yay248in the og game it literally told James that if he wanted to reunite with mary he could off himself but if he did he would probably go heck. So subtle.

    • @Yay248
      @Yay248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Shrukin9000 that’s true, it is a bit ridiculous, but it shows up much later in the game and is not necessarily cringy like this is. I’m surprised you didn’t bring this up instead of “to hell” first.

    • @Shrukin9000
      @Shrukin9000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Yay248Yeah I saw that the other guy said it so I didn't feel a need to lol.

    • @bananacakesmckanzee7290
      @bananacakesmckanzee7290 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠in all fairness,that message is fairly tucked away, and appears after a certain point in the story, so it’s not a message some pele would see in their first playthrough. also, obv we know now that James would “go to hell” because of killing mary , but there was nothing else that remotely indicated that prior. plus, there are other plausible reasons fir james going to hell:
      1) not protecting maria
      2) theory that james was actually killing people , not monsters
      3) james commiting suicide

  • @SiarMortal
    @SiarMortal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Maybe simple wooden desk should've remained a simple wooden desk?
    Maybe doors to a dingy apartment building shouldn't look like a doors to a city hall?

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i'm fine with it with the game getting this level of visual treatment

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Sputnik34 I really want this remake to get scrapped like batgirl, and konami to bring back team silent members to make silent hill 5 and stop doing remakes. Also konami to hire them enhanced edition to get the first 4 games on consoles.

    • @mdjey2
      @mdjey2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is totally not the problem. It is actually few of the good things that was shown.

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mdjey2 they need to scrap this silent hill 2 remake like the batgirl movie and bring the enhanced edition instead remakes are not good going forward.

    • @Shrukin9000
      @Shrukin9000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@derekb4977Yeah, everyone loved the enhanced version. Scrapping this would be such a waste of time and money. Especially when they have all the time in the world to fix what people have wrong with it.

  • @thestealthdragon6022
    @thestealthdragon6022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's really sad that professional developers can't get s*** right and we the consumer have to correct them over and over and over again pathetic

  • @FreakingLombax
    @FreakingLombax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most are complaining just to complain, even seeing comments on how the new combat looks worse than the original....like, WHAT?!
    Anyways, im happy you are giving actual criticism and praise and not just the mindless, braindead echo chambering im finding all over the place with this game. I strongly hope this game does well and jump starts a series reboot. This was my very first horror game ever and has a special place in my heart.

  • @AkirrBlox
    @AkirrBlox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It may still be coming out before the end of 2024 because, the footage in the trailer is the showing a old build of the Silent Hill 2 remake from May 2023 - this is backed up by a few sources.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if the trailer is from a year ago then maybe that could be the case. no matter what though it seems strange that there wasn't even a window... you would think that they would at least update the end card, BUT i don't know what i'm talking about. lol

    • @Shrukin9000
      @Shrukin9000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Sputnik34Well I think they knew people would complain so they gave themselves plenty of time to fix what people complained about.

  • @therealhomelanderfd6kj
    @therealhomelanderfd6kj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    everyone always forgets the og game literally had a combat trailer lmao this isnt gonna mean the game will be combat focused

    • @NextGenCouncil
      @NextGenCouncil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. I hope that footage is from a enemy horde mode as extra content.

  • @shsz1984
    @shsz1984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I seriously want both a "Puzzle difficulty" and "Combat difficulty" in this game.
    AAAaaaad make the final boss more memorable (No spoilers ahead).
    Creepier, and harder to beat. Something unexpected, even for the ppl who played the original game.
    Because to be honest, as much as I loved Silent Hill 2... the OG final boss was a joke. All the build-up for... that?
    I guess it would be the only thing I want Bloober Team to play with a little more.

  • @Stigmatix666
    @Stigmatix666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2 cents:
    An interesting thing as a SH veteran though; every single SH game pushed it's designated console to the max in order to look and play good. Yeah, the combat.. It definitely reflected the fact that the protagonist was inexperienced with weapons. However.. I can see this aspect turn off everyone else but hardcore fans.
    The thing with survival horror of the old school variety is that they literally work best on what today's gamers definitely would call "outdated gaming mechanics":
    The protagonist sucking with a handgun? Yeah, that worked in the originals. Would that work today?
    Would modern gamers accept that dead enemies don't drop any loot whatsoever?
    Would modern gamers accept not having a clue what the requirements for different endings are?
    Would modern gamers accept inventory management and the game not holding your hand?
    These are just mere reminders about what old school survival horror was..
    Food for thought.

  • @Treekyboi
    @Treekyboi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My really only concern is the melee and gun combat looks weird. The impact of the melee hits and the gun shots look like they feel weak LOL. Im still gunna play it but not getting my hopes up

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the melee combat looks totally fine. The audio on the guns have been confirmed by a dev to be not what they sound like in the final game :')

  • @NextGenCouncil
    @NextGenCouncil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game is going to probably be fire sauce.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i hope!

  • @MechanicalPaladin
    @MechanicalPaladin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What are your thoughts about the 'mash X' button promt?
    Personally, it takes me right out of the game. Other remakes, like RE2 for example didn't need to things resort to things like that to convey that you need to mash buttons in order to escape enemies grasp.

    • @Reybeeem
      @Reybeeem 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Re3 and re4 had button prompts and it didn't really take me out of the experience too much. Also re2 did have an L1 button prompt if you got grabbed and had a flashbang or grenade.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd prefer if it wasn't there but it's not the worst thing that could happen if it was

  • @IDeclareWar11D2
    @IDeclareWar11D2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree man and I’m scared because so many “silent hill fans” don’t see the red flags and are just disregarding all the red flags. 🚩 they need criticism like this if anyone wants a half decent game even.

  • @sadporkbelly
    @sadporkbelly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    agree with you - good video

  • @nicholassnyder2241
    @nicholassnyder2241 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rewatch the original E3 trailer for silent hill 2, for a brief look at the overall concept for the original game, including how much combat plays into it.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i understand that old trailer had a lot of combat but with the success of more "action-horror" titles recently is what brings me concern especially with Konami. it's entirely possible that they could be trying to chase the action trend and shove more action into the game.
      it's not likely and in fact, i DON'T think it will be the case, but it's definitely something to have concerns over until we get the final game in our hands! :')

    • @Artesian_mirage
      @Artesian_mirage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An almost 6 minute trailer, and roughly 2 minutes or less is combat.... Not quite the same

    • @Indi_51
      @Indi_51 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys keep forgetting that sh has a combat system 😅

    • @derekb4977
      @derekb4977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Indi_51 true silent hill fans don't want any remakes we want silent hill 5 by team silent and the enhanced edition to be on consoles.

    • @Artesian_mirage
      @Artesian_mirage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Indi_51 You none-Silent-Hill-fans keep forgetting that combat was a cursory factor in the overall design and appeal of the original 3 Silent Hill games and that the atmosphere and ludonarrative composition was what drew the original audience in 😅

  • @johnzarek3628
    @johnzarek3628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It took me 3 playthroughs to understand Silent Hill 2. I bet if I started my 4th playthrough right now I will find new stuff.

  • @Glassandcandy
    @Glassandcandy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The already extremely critical reception this remake has with the extremely scant amount of info and footage we have is utterly baffling to me. I mean, yeah, I get it, it's a beloved classic that's really important to people, no one wants to see it get fucked up. I feel the same with the MGS3 remake, but holy shit, people are literally picking aprt the most minute and inconsequential of details for this game and using it as proof positive that it's going to be a complete disaster. IT's absolutely dumbfounding to me as an outsider to this series and community tbh.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have faith. I hope I didn't come across as a hopeless nihilist. I'm only concerned about some potential loss of subtlety

    • @Glassandcandy
      @Glassandcandy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34 Nah, I was referring to the overall discourse surrounding the recent footage of this game. It's baffling and disconcerting. I just "acquired" (wink wink nudge nudge) the ability to play these games and I just started 1 and am excited for 2 but honestly, the way the community has expressed itself recently it makes me hesitant to actually engage with it and its fans, even though I'm really loving the first game and will probably adore the second. I don't think some of he more unhinged fans of this series realize just how off putting this shit is to prospective new players like me lol

  • @Guys._.
    @Guys._. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am super excited for this game, and I think that the jank is just because it's still early in development. They didn't give us a release date, so that is why I think they're not super far into development. I am still hopeful that they won't fuck this up. Konami better have bloober team by the balls with this one.,

    • @Luis-rp2lm
      @Luis-rp2lm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Someone “confirmed” that this trailer is almost a year old made of multiple builds which is why the quality in graphics dips in between scenes

  • @JCdizzog
    @JCdizzog 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    incredible

  • @markwheeler4245
    @markwheeler4245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On screen button prompts!... mash X etc so immersion breaking in a horror game but the trailer was literally called combat trailer we can criticise the sounds and effects of combat etc but not the fact they showed combat in a combat trailer. I am concerned they are turning SH into RE remakes though. Bloober dont do subtle i mean look at the trailer James face screwed up and screaming its way overdone

  • @trainwreckgrill
    @trainwreckgrill 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:13 "I remember the first time I played the game I didn't even notice."
    That's EXACTLY what's it all about. SH2 lives off those small details that are easily overlooked if you don't pay close attention. I've played through the game a dozen times and I'm sure there are still little puzzle pieces I haven't discovered yet.
    Bloober is gonne put those little things on a pedestal to make sure that nobody's gonna miss it. 🤮
    I'm shocked you think that's a great thing...

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I worded it poorly since this was a very odd the cuff video but what I was mostly excited about was the fact that they're adding puzzles

    • @trainwreckgrill
      @trainwreckgrill 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34 Ah okay. Additional puzzles are nice, yes.

  • @aaronatkinson177
    @aaronatkinson177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll stick with signalis for now 😊

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least until the remake comes out! :P

  • @diogopereira1475
    @diogopereira1475 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The game looks great, this was a COMBAT trailer, its literally written on the title of the trailer, people overreacting and making every small issue sound game breaking and an excuse to shit on it
    Im a sh2 veteran and loved the original to death, watched every single analysis of this game over and over, i was skeptical of the remake at first, but after this, i think this looks great, its faithful with some fresh air, people overreacting way too much and i even fear konami decides to cancel this like PT just because of these silly complaints

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand this argument. My response is a pinned comment!

  • @thomasherbert6346
    @thomasherbert6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm confused as to why you don't think bloober can do the subtly of Silent hill 2? They did the game "The Medium" Which is basically a homage to the story of Silent hill 2 and the game has zero combat mechanics..

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I specifically meant the writing

    • @thomasherbert6346
      @thomasherbert6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm less worried about that, since Bloober are such fan boys and they included the orange juice puzzle in the trailer. I'm more concerned about the recent news that bloober are arguing with Konami, I get Konami are bastards but I hope they don't cancel it now.. @@Sputnik34

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasherbert6346 given that multiple sources have said that the game is in the "final stages" i seriously doubt it will get cancelled.
      Bloober has a lot to prove with this game and konami fucking them over on the marketing side is likely incredibly frustrating.
      it's not the smartest move to make, but it's one that i think they probably felt like they had to.

    • @thomasherbert6346
      @thomasherbert6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34 I mean I doubt it is going to happen, but after what they did to Hideo Kojima and the cancellation of "Silent Hills" after the release of P.T. they have shown they are an extremely vengeful company.. I wouldn't put much past Konami. A public humiliation between a company who approached them to make this game is pretty insulting, even if I personally think Bloober have every right to frustrated.

  • @jeanbethencourt1506
    @jeanbethencourt1506 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bloober Team stinks. One of the greatest games of all time handed to a low tier developer.

  • @cappedminer369
    @cappedminer369 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Btw I think from what I heard is that there was dodging in the first 4 silent hill games too

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More like blocking. It was simple, but it was indeed there. Part 1 just had *strafe left and right* though.
      An interesting thing as a SH veteran though; every single SH game pushed it's designated console to the max in order to look and plat good. Yeah, the combat.. It definitely reflected the fact that the protagonist was inexperienced with weapons. However.. I can see this aspect turn off everyone else but hardcore fans.
      The thing with survival horror of the old school variety is that they literally work best on what today's gamers definitely would call "outdated gaming mechanics":
      The protagonist sucking with a handgun? Yeah, that worked in the originals. Would that work today?
      Would modern gamers accept that dead enemies don't drop any loot whatsoever?
      Would modern gamers accept not having a clue what the requirements for different endings are?
      Would modern gamers accept inventory management and the game not holding your hand?
      Food for thought.

  • @jonissues1914
    @jonissues1914 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:56 my guy, the trailer literally says in the tile "Combat Reveal Trailer", what do you expect to see with that title then? Dogs? lol

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I understand that old trailer had a lot of combat but with the success of more "action-horror" titles recently is what brings me concern especially with Konami. it's entirely possible that they could be trying to chase the action trend and shove more action into the game.
      it's not likely and in fact, i DON'T think it will be the case, but it's definitely something to have concerns over until we get the final game in our hands! :')

    • @jonissues1914
      @jonissues1914 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34 well I hope that is not the case, but I think they just made a combat specific trailer to show us how Bloober will handle a combat system for the first time as a developer, after all, we were all curious about that.

  • @Grim_Reaper91
    @Grim_Reaper91 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding your second red flag, it's a COMBAT trailer, not any other type of trailer. So of course it's primarily going to cover combat. I get it, the game's not combat focused obviously but the point of the trailer completely went over your head.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I saw it live. I get that it's a combat trailer but it's still a point of concern. We don't currently know if the game is as combat focused as that

  • @Duuhvis
    @Duuhvis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, it’s literally called a COMBAT TRAILER it’s in the title. Even the original has a combat showcase. The combat footage is likely un mixed raw audio. Hence why guns don’t have that “oomf”
    Another point is that bloober isn’t writing the story. From what I see in this trailer, they are making a 1-1 remake with better graphics.
    I feel people live in a vacuum and just regurgitate what they hear. I’m not saying you’re wrong for having concerns. I get it. But I just feel these concerns are silly. If it isn’t good you will always have the original to play.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand that old trailer had a lot of combat but with the success of more "action-horror" titles recently is what brings me concern especially with Konami. it's entirely possible that they could be trying to chase the action trend and shove more action into the game.
      it's not likely and in fact, i DON'T think it will be the case, but it's definitely something to have concerns over until we get the final game in our hands! :')

  • @Nextilia
    @Nextilia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate this dramatic music

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the trailer? It's just updated versions of the music from the original game

  • @LosMSR
    @LosMSR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The trailer said combat trailer, like the original game had one before too.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's still a worthwhile concern to have I think. We don't know for sure until we get the game in our hands! :')

    • @LosMSR
      @LosMSR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34 That's correct.

    • @Luis-rp2lm
      @Luis-rp2lm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34not really considering the original had a trailer where James whacks like 10 monsters and shotguns like 8 nurses. Silent hill 2 has plenty of combat.

    • @Sputnik34
      @Sputnik34  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Luis-rp2lm it's unlikely but it's always possible. I think that it's a worthwhile thing to hope isn't misunderstood or anything like that with a modern remake like this. Konami might try to make it more action focused after the success of more modern remakes like RE4/3/2 and Dead Space.
      Again, it's unlikely but it's something that I do think is worthwhile to have concerns over!

    • @Luis-rp2lm
      @Luis-rp2lm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sputnik34every location that there was combat in the trailer had multiple enemies in the original. This trailer was to prove that there would be combat since bloober has never made combat