Well, Kilgrave DOES have a point - Jessica had a drinking problem before she met him. As she says in a flashback - "Would you put day-drinking under experience, or special skills?"
I wouldn't officially call that a drinking problem. It could be the case, but they really didn't give that much evidence that she actually had a full on drinking problem back then. Just that she always enjoyed alcohol, but not necessarily a full blown alcoholic like she is now. She striked me back then as just one of those 20-something party chicks who like to go out and drink a few days a week. She was probably in her early to mids 20s, which is around most peoples prime drinking days. She also was at least out and about socializing, apposed to now where she just necks a bottle of whiskey alone in her apartment all day. Kilgrave definitely is a major cause of her alcoholism, I feel like that flashback showed the before and after relationship she had with alcohol.
What *therodiaX* said. There's no indication that Jessica was an actual alcoholic, as opposed to just enjoying a drink every now and then, before she met Kilgrave. Her excessive drinking now is in large part to deal with the trauma of what he did to her. Yes, there was that "day drinking" line (which I found hilarious BTW), but that still doesn't mean she was an addict.
While Kilgrave TECHNICALLY has a point with the literal wording of 'take care of her', due to interpretation being a weakness of his if he isn't careful, the state of mind Jessica was probably in at the time after digging through all that concrete and who knows what before and knowing what Kilgrave always means AND the common use of that phrase meaning 'kill her', she probably just reacted automatically to the meaning rather than the words. Also, if she had subverted it somehow, Kilgrave would have simply clarified rather fast (unless she managed to think that taking care of Reva involved swinging that shovel at Kilgrave as hard and as fast as she could before he could yell 'stop'). But as she seemed to be in a bit of a daze even before the punch, she probably wasn't able to think straight, and Kilgrave's point flies out the window.
i feel like when he says something, it isn't the words that make people do what he wants but the intentions. So he's lying. That and the "I told a man to screw himself" were both lies. That makes sense And the "Hi, Hank" thing he made Hank say "hi hank" not "hi" not because of what he said but what he thought. Because he was distracted because jess can't be controlled. Maybe I'm wrong but he lies all the time.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 People sometimes do things on his command that he doesn't entirely expect, though. It seems to be based on the victim's interpretation of meaning, which is how Jessica stopped Trish from killing herself by putting the bullet in her mouth and telling her that it counts as being in her skull.
@@godofevil9468 I think when she was under the control, she doesn't have a restraint on her strength. So unless kg specifically said knock her out but don't kill her, then she would have hit her with all her strength
@@godofevil9468 yes but the thing is, listen to way he speaks he doesn't care about the fact that woman is dead, had Jessica remained under his control after the command he probably would have completely forgotten about that and moved on without a care in the world. He's bringing this "you choose to kill her not me" thing as to blame her, it's what abusers do. Cast blame on their victims to make them doubt themselves
Take care of her could literally mean that, he said once that he has to think his words, i mean about the bit of "i once told someone to screw himself "
@@therodiaX Jessica Jones already has 3 seasons as of 2020, and there is no plan to continue the series. Ritter is amazing as JJ and I hope she can return to the MCU, but nothing will probably top the 1st season.
@@briansilva3344 its 2022 daredevil is officialy back so they might bring jessica again. Killgrave could also return in some new capacity thanks to multiverse shenigans
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 they’ll only bring back what definitely worked, and out of the Netflix shows, everyone in their right mind would pick daredevil as the one that was solid the whole way through. But fun idea, what if Matt Smith played a variant of Kilgrave?
I've seen too many people say "killgrave has a point" about how he phrased "take care of her" while completely missing THE point. Remember this is the guy who thought a man shooting himself in the mouth with a shotgun was genuinely the right thing to do If she killed reva but stayed under his control he would have been completely fine with it and went about his day as normal Remember hes a textbook abuser he's blaming her for his faults
By the way... That kind of pasta is call "pasta alla CARBONARA" not "MATRICIANA". Because the first one is with eggs and the second is with tomatoe sausage. So yeah... That was pasta alla carbora
no no no no... no. Kilgrave is not "cute". David Tennant is cute. And while he may have the same face and have the same voice as the 10th Doctor, there's just something that makes him extremely NOT cute, to me at least.
He has a point. I think that if he told Jessica to take care of Reva, wouldn't she put her safe and sound? I mean, that's how Kilgrave's powers work. Literally whatever he tells you to do.
Not how language works, dude. Plus, when has Kilgrave NOT commanded his thralls to hurt/kill others or themselves? Same would've happened to Reva whether Jessica obeyed him literally or not. He was gaslighting Jessica here, plain and simple.
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When I first watched this scene, I couldn't stop thinking: Damn, I hope that wasn't a rare, expensive bottle of wine.
+Xylarxcode lol
But then, that probably isn't a very big problem for Kilgrave
It was empty when she smashed it because she asked for another one
1:41 Kilgrave: are you shitting me?
Lol. Exactly
@Texaco joD
The little smirk on his face when she's pouring so many glasses of wine like "I hope she gets drunk."
"I said I wouldn't control you"
You would if you could KG 😂
Bloody hell, she downed that bottle fast.
Well, getting drunk is one of her super-powers.
Well, Kilgrave DOES have a point - Jessica had a drinking problem before she met him. As she says in a flashback - "Would you put day-drinking under experience, or special skills?"
I wouldn't officially call that a drinking problem. It could be the case, but they really didn't give that much evidence that she actually had a full on drinking problem back then. Just that she always enjoyed alcohol, but not necessarily a full blown alcoholic like she is now. She striked me back then as just one of those 20-something party chicks who like to go out and drink a few days a week. She was probably in her early to mids 20s, which is around most peoples prime drinking days. She also was at least out and about socializing, apposed to now where she just necks a bottle of whiskey alone in her apartment all day. Kilgrave definitely is a major cause of her alcoholism, I feel like that flashback showed the before and after relationship she had with alcohol.
What *therodiaX* said. There's no indication that Jessica was an actual alcoholic, as opposed to just enjoying a drink every now and then, before she met Kilgrave. Her excessive drinking now is in large part to deal with the trauma of what he did to her. Yes, there was that "day drinking" line (which I found hilarious BTW), but that still doesn't mean she was an addict.
@@Slingblade87 Yeah, actually, it does. Drinking during the day is not a good sign to begin with 2 + 2. Kilgrave had a valid point.
He did contribute to making it worse, that is Jessica's point
Lmao the justification
jones "purples not really my color" kilgrave "you shouldnt have said that! now go into a corner and stay there forever"
While Kilgrave TECHNICALLY has a point with the literal wording of 'take care of her', due to interpretation being a weakness of his if he isn't careful, the state of mind Jessica was probably in at the time after digging through all that concrete and who knows what before and knowing what Kilgrave always means AND the common use of that phrase meaning 'kill her', she probably just reacted automatically to the meaning rather than the words. Also, if she had subverted it somehow, Kilgrave would have simply clarified rather fast (unless she managed to think that taking care of Reva involved swinging that shovel at Kilgrave as hard and as fast as she could before he could yell 'stop'). But as she seemed to be in a bit of a daze even before the punch, she probably wasn't able to think straight, and Kilgrave's point flies out the window.
i feel like when he says something, it isn't the words that make people do what he wants but the intentions. So he's lying. That and the "I told a man to screw himself" were both lies. That makes sense And the "Hi, Hank" thing he made Hank say "hi hank" not "hi" not because of what he said but what he thought. Because he was distracted because jess can't be controlled. Maybe I'm wrong but he lies all the time.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 People sometimes do things on his command that he doesn't entirely expect, though. It seems to be based on the victim's interpretation of meaning, which is how Jessica stopped Trish from killing herself by putting the bullet in her mouth and telling her that it counts as being in her skull.
She must’ve thought that’s what he meant. Though she should’ve asked what he meant by that
Ordering Jessica to "take care of her" can be taken as "kill her"
Well obviously the circumstance and scenario can change their interpretation
Bollocks knocking her out would have been sufficient.
@@godofevil9468 eh, she did what she thought Kilgrave meant. And she was forced to do it.
@@godofevil9468 I think when she was under the control, she doesn't have a restraint on her strength. So unless kg specifically said knock her out but don't kill her, then she would have hit her with all her strength
@@godofevil9468 yes but the thing is, listen to way he speaks he doesn't care about the fact that woman is dead, had Jessica remained under his control after the command he probably would have completely forgotten about that and moved on without a care in the world.
He's bringing this "you choose to kill her not me" thing as to blame her, it's what abusers do. Cast blame on their victims to make them doubt themselves
Take care of her could literally mean that, he said once that he has to think his words, i mean about the bit of "i once told someone to screw himself "
We need another season. Jessica is awesome.
They are working on season 2
@@therodiaX Jessica Jones already has 3 seasons as of 2020, and there is no plan to continue the series. Ritter is amazing as JJ and I hope she can return to the MCU, but nothing will probably top the 1st season.
@@briansilva3344 its 2022 daredevil is officialy back so they might bring jessica again. Killgrave could also return in some new capacity thanks to multiverse shenigans
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 they’ll only bring back what definitely worked, and out of the Netflix shows, everyone in their right mind would pick daredevil as the one that was solid the whole way through. But fun idea, what if Matt Smith played a variant of Kilgrave?
@@briansilva3344 what 💀 why matt smith of all people..?
I've seen too many people say "killgrave has a point" about how he phrased "take care of her" while completely missing THE point.
Remember this is the guy who thought a man shooting himself in the mouth with a shotgun was genuinely the right thing to do
If she killed reva but stayed under his control he would have been completely fine with it and went about his day as normal
Remember hes a textbook abuser he's blaming her for his faults
Yeah I don't get how they don't know that
By the way... That kind of pasta is call "pasta alla CARBONARA" not "MATRICIANA". Because the first one is with eggs and the second is with tomatoe sausage. So yeah... That was pasta alla carbora
I can't help rooting for kilgrave just because he's played by David Tennant
Then you're rooting for a serial rapist, murderer and a mental abuser. Just because he has David's face doesn't mean you should root for what he does.
@@bananatiergod he's got good writing to be honest, and its david tennant so
I wish Kilgrave would stop being his cute self
dr who fan aren't you? ^_^
Yup
no no no no... no. Kilgrave is not "cute". David Tennant is cute. And while he may have the same face and have the same voice as the 10th Doctor, there's just something that makes him extremely NOT cute, to me at least.
Everybody Say "Killgrave''
Jessica, "I'll be having a liquid dinner."
Yeah, he better be squinting down.
Awesome david tennant
He has a point. I think that if he told Jessica to take care of Reva, wouldn't she put her safe and sound? I mean, that's how Kilgrave's powers work. Literally whatever he tells you to do.
Not how language works, dude. Plus, when has Kilgrave NOT commanded his thralls to hurt/kill others or themselves? Same would've happened to Reva whether Jessica obeyed him literally or not.
He was gaslighting Jessica here, plain and simple.
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Matt Smith is way better than David Tennant as The Doctor
Killgrave been portray by that actor is make me sick
That means it's doing it right. He has David Tennant's face but this is not him. He's suppose to be a disgusting, vile human being.