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Considering how long Vince cheating on Linda rumors and all of the stories have been going on. I'm suprised it took this long and a WSJ story to basically burry his career. He can't come back it's career and reputation suicide. As for Punk there's no way Brawl out can be a work. If it is then why go through all of the controversy just for a work if it's a work it most likely will tarnish AEW's reputation as for a potential WWE return it can happen but Triple H will most certainly make sure another Brawl Out doesn't happen unlike Tony Khan who just let the Brawl happen and unless your name is Sammy Guverra and your in a fight you ain't getting punished. But the Quincy Eliot stuff I had no idea of
I don’t think it was a work, but i do think punk will come back. He’s still listed on AEWs roster which is very updated as it has Action Andretti. I think punk still has at least 3 years on his contract and is being sent home until he and the elite can shake hands and put everything behind them. Every week, i’m waiting for that static into cult of personality
I was a big fan of Velveteen Dream, he had wrestling talent, mic skills, charisma, and a cool theme song. He also seemed to be a tweener, not a face or a heel. He would acknowledge the audience and smile and point at them and he seemed to really appreciate the attention they gave him. For a while I was wondering when he'd go to the main roster and what was gonna happen to him there, but sadly, he did things in his personal life that cut his career short and grinded it to a halt. He had so much talent and potential, and he threw it all away. He could have been a big huge star, and he blew it. The Dream Is Dead! (also the title of one of my favorite songs by Type O Negative BTW)
Yeah I think he only did that as a way to put him in the thumbnail for clickbait. Punk did something wrong but to put him in the same category as people who’ve committed sexual assault and talk to underage people is stupid
Meanwhile the people who want Punk on the list have no problem with Kenny Omega doing business with Chasyn Rance or Chris Jericho’s wife being at the January 6th riot and somehow guys like that are the arbiters of virtue in the wrestling business.
Actually thank you for talking about this issue. Yes Punk was a person who did go too far in his rant and action,but he was still very helpful in AEWs development,had arguably some of the best storylines and narratives in pro wrestling and has given people the chance to refill their passion with pro wrestling again. Absolutely agree that he doesn‘t belong on such a list of people with horrible actions
Irregardless; I believe laws have been passed this year to protect cops from being sued for not reading your Miranda Rights. Don't remember if that's national or local.
Omg that’s a name I haven’t seen in years 😂😂😂 are they still around? They’re like the great value wrestlelamia, and even that dude is straight dogshit.
While everyone argues about Punk, I’ll just say that I got a Mankind collectible lunchbox for Christmas. It had goodies inside like a pin, funko pop & mr socko.
I usually hate click bait thumbnails. I clicked on this one not because I thought CM Punk deserved to be on this list, but on the chance that there was something to the story that I had missed. I am glad to learn that there doesn't seem to be such and that you were using it to discuss how quick some people are to "cancel" someone. Most of the people I've seen you cover in these videos really deserved to be called out and shamed, and it is good to make people stop and think through whether someone they are saying belongs on this list really does or if the posters are taking normal dislike of a wrestler to an inappropriate level.
Seriously? People want CM Punk on here? I don't like the guy, never have, but I don't think he's said or done anything to be in the same class as the other people on this list. If just being a selfish asshole would be enough to land someone on this list...man we'd all end up here eventually.
CM punk stans are wild, there's a reason why he's incapable of staying at any company. First break up is mutual, second it was on the other person, next break ups is a sign that it's probably you causing issues. Anyway, Vince getting away for so long makes sense, he has a lot of money and can make or break anyone, that type of power can silence a lot of people.
I agree with the CM Punk part. I never liked him at all and I think he deserves a lot of the blame for what happened, but just getting into a fight backstage isn't what I'd call degenerate behavior.
Also, before anyone says "doh well, he assaulted the company's EVPs." The fact that the elite are EVPs in the first place is a problem in of itself. And if they were serious about their positions and didn't only nab them just to keep themselves on top, they wouldn't have handled the situation like that in the first place.
I don't really think cm punk is a degenerate but he most certainly has had many issues in the locker rooms not just WWE and AEW either but I don't think he belongs on this list
@@hugosenshida999 i mean that's a valid point too don't get me wrong no way defending him use to be a fan but with him not changing his ways I honestly don't think I could never look at him the same way
@@traigongames eh tbh i never liked him much, I never got the punk hype and just saw a big ego. Sure at the times of 2013 it was fine stanning for him, but now-? Yeesh-
Thank you for talking sense about CM Punk. A lot of butt hurt AEW marks seem to have it in for him due to how things went down there, but from all reliable sources I've found, Punk seems to have been the victim more than anything else. They loved him when he came to give the company the biggest boost they could possibly get, but when he was ganged up on by the "Elite", suddenly he's the bad guy. Now they hate him like they hate Jim Cornette (who really just expresses his opinions on their show, it shouldn't have led to the level of animosity that it has).
Yeah let’s not forget the backstage problems in wwe that all seems to come full circle or the report that came out when he told the AEW locker room to tone it down with the way they wrestle and everyone laughed. I loved punk so much but now he is a absolute joke like his fans now and days. Like your going to tell me that he is going to create career suicide because one guy asked him the question that broke the camels back just after getting the world title belt for the second time,getting damn good tv time,top merch advertising during the show and on top of that being featured on the front of most of the posters and the video game. punk wasn’t a victim at all he was dumb af and angry and started shit that he couldn’t finish and in turn it just finished his career.
First off, I don't think you were harsh on Sexy Star AT ALL. She broke the trust that is literally the foundation of the industry. Also, I'm thankful you didn't join the AEW fan media circle jerk against CM Punk. His only crime was trying to get that room of idiots to act like professionals. If that's degeneracy, the world is lost.
Yeah he was,she just dgaf and would rather do boxing and MMA,I'm w/her!!!also she won me$$$on a boxing match 🥊she was an underdog in,also she be hot 😍AF 💯
CM Punk ain’t a degenerate. He called out AEW for always having favorites, Adam Page should be on here for even starting all of this, dude should’ve kept his mouth shut. Punk is in the right by the way. Because he proved that AEW has favorites by AEW instantly getting rid of Punk for this.
Top 10 moral sellouts? Ex: Zelina Vega standing up for third party platforms before giving it up to be the first Queen of the Ring. John Cena portraying himself as a hero to kids but reportedly horrible to women and coworkers, especially Midcard talent trying to go up the card. Braun Strowman wanting to rebrand himself and take control of his narrative only to go back to being controlled for money. WWE Wrestlers released just to go crawling back to them. Tony Schiavone taking cheap shots at Impact when he abandoned wrestling all together for baseball announcing and only coming back when it was beneficial to him and never fighting for pro wrestling to stand up to Vince McMahon. WWE's anti-bullying program. ETC.
*Clicks video* *Listens to the intro patiently, waiting to hear some creepy wrestler's shenanigans who is almost obscure* "Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon..." You know what, i'm not surprised at all
Cm punk doesn't need to be on the list however, he's very narcissistic though. Ted do need to be on the list because he straight stole money from poor people.
The wrestling gifts I got this Christmas are thr unfortunately terrible WWE 2K22 for my newly bought PS5 and Jon Moxley's book "Mox", which I hope is better.
Yeah, puts other "non degenerates" to previous lists, then puts cm punk on the thumbnail, then says, cm punk is not a degenerate, well stop fanboying mate He is a degenarate, 100% because he went after a wrestler in an press briefing, like he has accounts with his mother, people standing up for their friends, and also after mjf who had nothing to do with him Stop biasing people, it wasn’t limited to a brawl, you know it, grow some balls for god sakes
Brian Kendrick does not deserve to be on this. You should not be punished or “cancelled” for something you did or said over 10 years ago. That’s such bs stop promoting cancel culture. It was sooo long ago you ignore the fact that people grow and change and no a person doesn’t need to publicly apologize for something, as long as they themselves realize what’s wrong with their actions and change than that’s all that matters and clearly Kendrick did as he was employed for a very long time, well liked, and trained many wrestlers. It’s absolutely absurd and insane for these people to dig through archives and try and shame and cancel someone for something said so long ago
“You should not be punished for something you did over 10 years ago” that sentence was stupid, with that silly logic people should stop hating horrible people like hitler since it has been MANY years since his horrible actions lol even fabulous moolah was liked and celebrated by wwe for many years despite the shit she did, so should she be excused too?
@@derek5608 Ok but your comment brings up a problem. Hitler DID some very bad things. Kendrick SAID some very stupid things. Also Hitler is not alive now. You conflate these things
I got my fight like a 8-year-old girl t-shirt and I'm going to get myself a elite t-shirt too but I completely agree with you that CM Punk shouldn't be on this list he got in a fight that's it that's it I may disagree with him in the fight but he shouldn't be on this list
1:10 You know, you just have to show his name and people know what kind of bastard he is, the shocking thing is that he actually stepped down, because for many many years, Vince McMahon was the Teflon Don of karma,
When the Washington Post publishes shit like that, it becomes way too public to just ignore. Before that investigation, he looked like your average rich bastard, being the classic "I didn't become a billionaire by being a good person" kind of guy, but now there is way more proof of exactly what kind of scumbag he is.
@@tafua_a News sources like the Washington Post where doing reports during the steroid scandal, during the death of Eddie Guererro and Chris Benoit, it's that sort of shady under goings that have shifted WWE so much that it's the reason why the hole show is PG, so they can put on a happy smiling face while they do horrible horrible shit, with Triple H in charge it looks like things are gonna get a hell of a lot better with a boss who genuinely cares about his employ,
CM Punk was 100% in the right. He gets a reputation as “difficult” because he dares stand up for himself when youre supposed to just sit back and let the company shit on you.
Exactly. Also, "he's got a bad attitude" and "he's difficult to work with" are two phrases commonly used by bookers/promoters about their employees that actually mean "he calls us out on all our bullshit" and "he won't allow us to disrespect him". And that's what happened to Punk in both WWE and AEW. And he was in the right the entire time. He did nothing wrong!
But he's happy to shit on other workers? Like he's not entirely wrong in what he's said about aew and the elite, but he's a total fucking hypocrite,plus he was happy to shit all over colt cabana, he was fine to shit on Adam Page.
CM Punk is as much of a motormouth jerk as Ryback,for if anyone wants to hear anyone trash talk about and the severely trashing of CM Punk they can turn to the likes of Technical Work Rate Productions(TWRP),Masked Up Marks,and Abingora. You can also make some room for ex-The Elite member Marty Scurll and (the late) New Jack on your 2023 Wrestling Degenerates list,as well.
I refuse to hop abored the CM punk hate train, especially over the star of Sissy Boy Slap Party. Kenny omega or Twinkling Toes McFinger Bang as he's really known as
@Carl Stratton I thought the idea of wrestling was to win the crowd over and make them belive its real, not 60 super kicks in a circle in under a minute, than everybody kicks up in 5 seconds.
@Red Dragon but his cuck buddy's sure do. And kenny and when he get final say on shit. When all they want to do is make a mockery of the business like the barbedwire death match. The asshole didn't even blow up the fucking ring. After that was the selling point of the entire gymic
Oh Vince is going to make a comeback I've been saying this for since he retired he's coming back and then he's going to be the vice president for Donald Trump
CM Punk is still OK in my book, I've been a fan of his since he was on the ECW brand back in the 2000's. And I've watched a lot of his ROH stuff as well. He and I are also the same age and height, and he's done things I could never do. And he has a babe for a wife, that hot petite brunette April "AJ Lee" Brooks. He's got it good, and I'm happy for him!
Being a conspiracy theory guy shouldn't black ball you from the industry. People are allowed to have their own opinions. So stupid that a talented wrestler can't get booked because everyone thinks they are the thought police. 100 pct of people have either said stuff they regret or posted some shit online, doesn't make u a monster
The weird thing is that CM Punk seemed like a cool dude when I met him at game 4 of the 2016 World Series.(Cubs fan here) I guess people can only wear a mask for so long before it slips away.
@@thecageshowgamez632 You can still have issues with people and not be a degenerate no disrespect to CM Punk but he has had caused issues for every promotion he has worked for
The ones wearing masks are the 'Elite' egomaniacs who couldn't handle having an actual wrestling star coming in and overshadowing them. So they ran a smear campaign against him. Other AEW wrestlers like Hobbs, FTR and Darby have talked about him generally being amiable and imparting good advice.
@@DC-hy2rg you do realize how ridiculous you sound right? Cause not only was CM Punk the first to throw a punch that isn't the only company he has had issues with ROH, Impact, WWE, UFC, AEW and a lot of indy companies
I hadn't heard those other allegations but the allegation that got vince taken out of the company was an affair imo she is the worse person in that case only because she signed the nda and took the 3 million and then went public what a great reputable woman right gimme a break
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CM Punk is in the thumbnail because despite being off screen for months, hes still the most talked about guy in AEW.
All the negative reasons
He's also a great example of a degenerate.
That was two years ago get over it 🤦🏻♂️
If wrestlers that fight backstage were put in this series, it would just be a series of every wrestler ever.
Lmao Shawn Michaels being on an employees twitter space late at night on Christmas is one of the funniest things ever.
"Howdy do, fellow kids!" - Shawn Michaels 2022
Considering how long Vince cheating on Linda rumors and all of the stories have been going on. I'm suprised it took this long and a WSJ story to basically burry his career. He can't come back it's career and reputation suicide. As for Punk there's no way Brawl out can be a work. If it is then why go through all of the controversy just for a work if it's a work it most likely will tarnish AEW's reputation as for a potential WWE return it can happen but Triple H will most certainly make sure another Brawl Out doesn't happen unlike Tony Khan who just let the Brawl happen and unless your name is Sammy Guverra and your in a fight you ain't getting punished. But the Quincy Eliot stuff I had no idea of
I don’t think it was a work, but i do think punk will come back. He’s still listed on AEWs roster which is very updated as it has Action Andretti. I think punk still has at least 3 years on his contract and is being sent home until he and the elite can shake hands and put everything behind them. Every week, i’m waiting for that static into cult of personality
It wasn't rumors Vince in his interview with Playboy that he had cheated on her many times.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Not surprised
I was a big fan of Velveteen Dream, he had wrestling talent, mic skills, charisma, and a cool theme song. He also seemed to be a tweener, not a face or a heel. He would acknowledge the audience and smile and point at them and he seemed to really appreciate the attention they gave him. For a while I was wondering when he'd go to the main roster and what was gonna happen to him there, but sadly, he did things in his personal life that cut his career short and grinded it to a halt. He had so much talent and potential, and he threw it all away. He could have been a big huge star, and he blew it. The Dream Is Dead! (also the title of one of my favorite songs by Type O Negative BTW)
Would have been dumb to put Punk in a series about pedos, creeps & fraudsters just because he got into a backstage fight.
Yeah I think he only did that as a way to put him in the thumbnail for clickbait. Punk did something wrong but to put him in the same category as people who’ve committed sexual assault and talk to underage people is stupid
agreed
He is a fraud
It's a bit of a "problematic" thumbnail, yea.
Meanwhile the people who want Punk on the list have no problem with Kenny Omega doing business with Chasyn Rance or Chris Jericho’s wife being at the January 6th riot and somehow guys like that are the arbiters of virtue in the wrestling business.
holy shit dude you covered quincy hella fast😂💀
"I put Punk on the thumbnail for clicks" you could have included this statement about him without the thumbnail
Actually thank you for talking about this issue. Yes Punk was a person who did go too far in his rant and action,but he was still very helpful in AEWs development,had arguably some of the best storylines and narratives in pro wrestling and has given people the chance to refill their passion with pro wrestling again.
Absolutely agree that he doesn‘t belong on such a list of people with horrible actions
Velveteen dream had everyone behind his back, It's sad what happended honestly.
I wondered what happened to Quincy. He was here one day and gone the next.
Wait, I'm confused. Was Velveteen Dream read his Miranda Rights or not?
Legend says he still waiting for them to be read to him.
We may never know
Irregardless; I believe laws have been passed this year to protect cops from being sued for not reading your Miranda Rights. Don't remember if that's national or local.
Who cares!! convicted pedos don't deserve any,period.
Guess Quincy isnt going to have a long career, I question why he was signed in the first place.
2022 was the craziest year for professional wrestling.
Or for WWE, if you’re Pllana Productions.
I really dislike him he seems like a AEW hater as fan that tries to watch both companies and NJPW and Impact I really dislike tribalism
Omg that’s a name I haven’t seen in years 😂😂😂 are they still around? They’re like the great value wrestlelamia, and even that dude is straight dogshit.
While everyone argues about Punk, I’ll just say that I got a Mankind collectible lunchbox for Christmas. It had goodies inside like a pin, funko pop & mr socko.
I usually hate click bait thumbnails. I clicked on this one not because I thought CM Punk deserved to be on this list, but on the chance that there was something to the story that I had missed. I am glad to learn that there doesn't seem to be such and that you were using it to discuss how quick some people are to "cancel" someone. Most of the people I've seen you cover in these videos really deserved to be called out and shamed, and it is good to make people stop and think through whether someone they are saying belongs on this list really does or if the posters are taking normal dislike of a wrestler to an inappropriate level.
Seriously? People want CM Punk on here? I don't like the guy, never have, but I don't think he's said or done anything to be in the same class as the other people on this list. If just being a selfish asshole would be enough to land someone on this list...man we'd all end up here eventually.
Thank U for addressing that CM Punk dosen't belong on here
CM punk stans are wild, there's a reason why he's incapable of staying at any company. First break up is mutual, second it was on the other person, next break ups is a sign that it's probably you causing issues. Anyway, Vince getting away for so long makes sense, he has a lot of money and can make or break anyone, that type of power can silence a lot of people.
Is it weird that Vincent Kennedy McMahon was born 5 days before Hitler took his own life in the Wolf’s Lair?
I agree with the CM Punk part. I never liked him at all and I think he deserves a lot of the blame for what happened, but just getting into a fight backstage isn't what I'd call degenerate behavior.
Also, before anyone says "doh well, he assaulted the company's EVPs." The fact that the elite are EVPs in the first place is a problem in of itself. And if they were serious about their positions and didn't only nab them just to keep themselves on top, they wouldn't have handled the situation like that in the first place.
I don't really think cm punk is a degenerate but he most certainly has had many issues in the locker rooms not just WWE and AEW either but I don't think he belongs on this list
You are correct, he does not.
If he has alot of issues with his fellow workers it classifies him as a degenerate bruh
@@hugosenshida999 i mean that's a valid point too don't get me wrong no way defending him use to be a fan but with him not changing his ways I honestly don't think I could never look at him the same way
@@traigongames eh tbh i never liked him much, I never got the punk hype and just saw a big ego.
Sure at the times of 2013 it was fine stanning for him, but now-? Yeesh-
Thank you for talking sense about CM Punk. A lot of butt hurt AEW marks seem to have it in for him due to how things went down there, but from all reliable sources I've found, Punk seems to have been the victim more than anything else. They loved him when he came to give the company the biggest boost they could possibly get, but when he was ganged up on by the "Elite", suddenly he's the bad guy. Now they hate him like they hate Jim Cornette (who really just expresses his opinions on their show, it shouldn't have led to the level of animosity that it has).
Yeah let’s not forget the backstage problems in wwe that all seems to come full circle or the report that came out when he told the AEW locker room to tone it down with the way they wrestle and everyone laughed. I loved punk so much but now he is a absolute joke like his fans now and days. Like your going to tell me that he is going to create career suicide because one guy asked him the question that broke the camels back just after getting the world title belt for the second time,getting damn good tv time,top merch advertising during the show and on top of that being featured on the front of most of the posters and the video game. punk wasn’t a victim at all he was dumb af and angry and started shit that he couldn’t finish and in turn it just finished his career.
Punk is a lot of things, but he is NO victim.
People hate CM Punk so much that they want him on a list with people accused of sexual assault.
CM Punk’s should at least be mentioned, since he practically caused the second half of AEW’s “Fingerpoke of Doom”.
I didn’t THINK that Quincy Elliot was transphobic… unbelievable
First off, I don't think you were harsh on Sexy Star AT ALL. She broke the trust that is literally the foundation of the industry.
Also, I'm thankful you didn't join the AEW fan media circle jerk against CM Punk. His only crime was trying to get that room of idiots to act like professionals. If that's degeneracy, the world is lost.
Yeah he was,she just dgaf and would rather do boxing and MMA,I'm w/her!!!also she won me$$$on a boxing match 🥊she was an underdog in,also she be hot 😍AF 💯
CM Punk ain’t a degenerate. He called out AEW for always having favorites, Adam Page should be on here for even starting all of this, dude should’ve kept his mouth shut.
Punk is in the right by the way. Because he proved that AEW has favorites by AEW instantly getting rid of Punk for this.
Top 10 moral sellouts? Ex: Zelina Vega standing up for third party platforms before giving it up to be the first Queen of the Ring. John Cena portraying himself as a hero to kids but reportedly horrible to women and coworkers, especially Midcard talent trying to go up the card. Braun Strowman wanting to rebrand himself and take control of his narrative only to go back to being controlled for money. WWE Wrestlers released just to go crawling back to them. Tony Schiavone taking cheap shots at Impact when he abandoned wrestling all together for baseball announcing and only coming back when it was beneficial to him and never fighting for pro wrestling to stand up to Vince McMahon. WWE's anti-bullying program. ETC.
*Clicks video*
*Listens to the intro patiently, waiting to hear some creepy wrestler's shenanigans who is almost obscure*
"Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon..."
You know what, i'm not surprised at all
Serves you right for expecting them to name obscure people 🤷♂️
Wasn’t expecting a W2S cameo
You can copyright arrest videos ?
Dream should have been read his miranda rights. The officer covering up his body cam is also extremely inappropriate.
I'm happy to see Punk was just clickbait. You had me worried.
Great episodes 😮
Punk is not a degenerate. He is a jerk, though.
Lol good one with CM Punk. Thumbs UP👍
Thought it was a typo with velventeen dream
I got a cm punk action figure for Christmas (take that you stupid marks)
Quincy Elliott was trending yesterday
Well said on CM Punk. 👍
Vince McMahon must be held accountable. Same as all these criminals. The bill comes due. ALWAYS.
Thanks for not giving in the the aew marks and putting Punk here 🙏👍
From what i see of the havok stuff it was a drunk night regretted by both and from the story sounds consensual
THANK YOU FOR TELLING PEOPLE OFF FOR TRYNA GET PUNK HERE
Lol, I was like "Punk? Really?"
Where's Enzo Amore ?
I got an NWO shirt and a Drew McIntyre pop figure
Cm punk doesn't need to be on the list however, he's very narcissistic though. Ted do need to be on the list because he straight stole money from poor people.
The wrestling gifts I got this Christmas are thr unfortunately terrible WWE 2K22 for my newly bought PS5 and Jon Moxley's book "Mox", which I hope is better.
Of course Velveteen Dream will be mentioned twice for Wrestling Degenerates. Let’s hope it’s the last time we ever hear from him.
When are you gonna start making positive videos again ?
I wanna know too
Yeah, puts other "non degenerates" to previous lists, then puts cm punk on the thumbnail, then says, cm punk is not a degenerate, well stop fanboying mate
He is a degenarate, 100% because he went after a wrestler in an press briefing, like he has accounts with his mother, people standing up for their friends, and also after mjf who had nothing to do with him
Stop biasing people, it wasn’t limited to a brawl, you know it, grow some balls for god sakes
Brian Kendrick does not deserve to be on this. You should not be punished or “cancelled” for something you did or said over 10 years ago. That’s such bs stop promoting cancel culture. It was sooo long ago you ignore the fact that people grow and change and no a person doesn’t need to publicly apologize for something, as long as they themselves realize what’s wrong with their actions and change than that’s all that matters and clearly Kendrick did as he was employed for a very long time, well liked, and trained many wrestlers. It’s absolutely absurd and insane for these people to dig through archives and try and shame and cancel someone for something said so long ago
7:56
Watch the whole video!!! Idiot
@@Top10Wrestling then why include him? Your only pushing the false narrative of him being a degenerate or loser. Love your channel but hate this video
“You should not be punished for something you did over 10 years ago” that sentence was stupid, with that silly logic people should stop hating horrible people like hitler since it has been MANY years since his horrible actions lol even fabulous moolah was liked and celebrated by wwe for many years despite the shit she did, so should she be excused too?
@@derek5608 Ok but your comment brings up a problem. Hitler DID some very bad things. Kendrick SAID some very stupid things. Also Hitler is not alive now. You conflate these things
I got my fight like a 8-year-old girl t-shirt and I'm going to get myself a elite t-shirt too but I completely agree with you that CM Punk shouldn't be on this list he got in a fight that's it that's it I may disagree with him in the fight but he shouldn't be on this list
Cm punk isn't a degenerate but has issues with being malcontent and rubbing ppl the wrong way.
I agree with you on Punk
1:10 You know, you just have to show his name and people know what kind of bastard he is, the shocking thing is that he actually stepped down, because for many many years, Vince McMahon was the Teflon Don of karma,
When the Washington Post publishes shit like that, it becomes way too public to just ignore. Before that investigation, he looked like your average rich bastard, being the classic "I didn't become a billionaire by being a good person" kind of guy, but now there is way more proof of exactly what kind of scumbag he is.
@@tafua_a News sources like the Washington Post where doing reports during the steroid scandal, during the death of Eddie Guererro and Chris Benoit, it's that sort of shady under goings that have shifted WWE so much that it's the reason why the hole show is PG, so they can put on a happy smiling face while they do horrible horrible shit, with Triple H in charge it looks like things are gonna get a hell of a lot better with a boss who genuinely cares about his employ,
why would people put Punk in this list? so far away from this stuff.
CM Punk was 100% in the right. He gets a reputation as “difficult” because he dares stand up for himself when youre supposed to just sit back and let the company shit on you.
Man doe like cm punk didn’t do shit wrong
Exactly. Also, "he's got a bad attitude" and "he's difficult to work with" are two phrases commonly used by bookers/promoters about their employees that actually mean "he calls us out on all our bullshit" and "he won't allow us to disrespect him". And that's what happened to Punk in both WWE and AEW. And he was in the right the entire time. He did nothing wrong!
Okay Stan.
CM Punk had sex with an underage girl during his time with IWA:MS.
But he's happy to shit on other workers? Like he's not entirely wrong in what he's said about aew and the elite, but he's a total fucking hypocrite,plus he was happy to shit all over colt cabana, he was fine to shit on Adam Page.
V. Dream will work for AEW as Miranda Writes or any spelling like it. (Credit Corny)
CM Punk is as much of a motormouth jerk as Ryback,for if anyone wants to hear anyone trash talk about and the severely trashing of CM Punk they can turn to the likes of Technical Work Rate Productions(TWRP),Masked Up Marks,and Abingora. You can also make some room for ex-The Elite member Marty Scurll and (the late) New Jack on your 2023 Wrestling Degenerates list,as well.
I hope vince does not come back.
I think velveteen dream is misunderstood and he needs help
You get a thumbs up for being a Punk fan and not a Elite fanboy
I refuse to hop abored the CM punk hate train, especially over the star of Sissy Boy Slap Party. Kenny omega or Twinkling Toes McFinger Bang as he's really known as
As he's really know to sad weirdo's who take wrestling too seriously.
@Carl Stratton I thought the idea of wrestling was to win the crowd over and make them belive its real, not 60 super kicks in a circle in under a minute, than everybody kicks up in 5 seconds.
@@dukenukem5392 good thing most of Kenny’s matches aren’t like that.
@Red Dragon but his cuck buddy's sure do. And kenny and when he get final say on shit. When all they want to do is make a mockery of the business like the barbedwire death match. The asshole didn't even blow up the fucking ring. After that was the selling point of the entire gymic
The more time passes the more ppl will realize how right cm punk was! Cracks are already starting to show
Hes already been proven right, look how they acted like kids as soon as they got back , as well as killed the ratings
I mean tbh you can see it back then
I dont think we must credit people for hindsight 💀
Side note: the Shawn Michaels in the spaces chat was an edit 😭
Vince is the ultimate heel in all of wrestling history.
Oh Vince is going to make a comeback I've been saying this for since he retired he's coming back and then he's going to be the vice president for Donald Trump
Oh so you are still copying turkey tom?
Oh great I got Wroteshaw’ed
This channel has shifted into something unrecognizable...ik the tna content couldn't last, but idk if the direction is something I enjoy
SUPER FUN WRESTLING TIME 😉 TWFS
CM Punk is still OK in my book, I've been a fan of his since he was on the ECW brand back in the 2000's. And I've watched a lot of his ROH stuff as well. He and I are also the same age and height, and he's done things I could never do. And he has a babe for a wife, that hot petite brunette April "AJ Lee" Brooks. He's got it good, and I'm happy for him!
funny how the AEW locker room is still a mess even though he's gone. makes you think maybe swallowing the Elite's narrative whole is idiotic
Comment got creepy at the end
@@TuberoseKisser Not at all. Quit being a goddamn white knight, FFS.
@@Gurziak I've never heard that anywhere else. Do you have any proof that actually happened? Cuz you just sound like another hater of his to me.
@@thebeatdownclowns4276 My comment was not about the Elite, I said nothing about them at all.
Being a conspiracy theory guy shouldn't black ball you from the industry. People are allowed to have their own opinions. So stupid that a talented wrestler can't get booked because everyone thinks they are the thought police. 100 pct of people have either said stuff they regret or posted some shit online, doesn't make u a monster
Clickbait alert
Unless it's about being a nonce or a murderer. I think the speaking out movement should be BANNED an no one should be cancelled
The weird thing is that CM Punk seemed like a cool dude when I met him at game 4 of the 2016 World Series.(Cubs fan here)
I guess people can only wear a mask for so long before it slips away.
But he said he is not a degenerate
@@thecageshowgamez632 You can still have issues with people and not be a degenerate no disrespect to CM Punk but he has had caused issues for every promotion he has worked for
@@traigongames true
The ones wearing masks are the 'Elite' egomaniacs who couldn't handle having an actual wrestling star coming in and overshadowing them. So they ran a smear campaign against him.
Other AEW wrestlers like Hobbs, FTR and Darby have talked about him generally being amiable and imparting good advice.
@@DC-hy2rg you do realize how ridiculous you sound right? Cause not only was CM Punk the first to throw a punch that isn't the only company he has had issues with ROH, Impact, WWE, UFC, AEW and a lot of indy companies
7:08 That was photoshopped, but that dude is def done regardless
Lessgoo
I hope cm punk don’t go back to aew I hate cm punk
Yeah god forbid they have any real talent or star power. A balding plumber was your champion and Harpo marx
@@jinmochizukiBut I thought that when he was with WWE, he was an overrated vanilla midget jobber who can't draw a dime. What changed?
@@jinmochizuki Do you have your own opinions or do you just parrot dickless podcasters.
yeah the CM Punk thumbnail just earned an unsubscribe from this long time viewer 👍
clickbait is the sign of a dying channel. it was a fun ride but im unsubbed. hope it was worth it.
How DARE you put Vince on here…. Bloody mark.
Look at yourself in the mirror before calling someone a mark.
I mean I cant deny Vinces impact on the sport but he is not a good person.
I still find it incredible how many people still blindly worship Vince McMahon in 2022.
The only marks are the ones who call other's marks on TH-cam...shit!
@@crowfather0249
Booker and Promoter of the year OBJECTIVELY every year since 1997, and every year except 2 since 1982.
Worthless pedo mark
I hadn't heard those other allegations but the allegation that got vince taken out of the company was an affair imo she is the worse person in that case only because she signed the nda and took the 3 million and then went public what a great reputable woman right gimme a break
So NDAs make this kind of thing okay. Legal is not moral. And moral is often illegal.