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Interview: Jehovah's Witness Policies Enable Abuse
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- In this powerful interview, an EXJW couple tells their story of growing up in the Watchtower while dealing with tough lives at home. Their story exposes a major issue in the Jehovahs Witnesses where children are not able to receive the proper help and protection from the organization that should be keeping them safe.
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Chapers:
0:00 Intro
2:00 How we came to be in the JWs
7:00 Growing up in an exemplary JW household
10:00 Vicky's teenage years
13:00 Will's teenage years
21:45 Vicky's family life
24:00 The hypocrisy of our lives growing up
30:30 Being a woman in the JW organization
35:40 More of Will's timeline
39:35 Will's judicial hearing
44:15 How Vicky and Will met
51:30 Vicky & Will as teenagers
54:15 Will's later teen years
55:55 Why Will joined the Army
57:50 Vicky's Judicial
1:01:55 Will seeing some hypocrisy in the JWs
1:04:00 Vicky waking up and leaving
1:09:40 Will waking up and leaving
1:15:40 Vicky and Will meeting again
1:22:45 Shunning experiences
1:30:35 JW friends vs real friends
1:34:35 Advice for those waking up
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It's a long interview so here is a breakdown of the parts:
2:00 - 7:00 How we came to be in the JWs
7:00 - 10:00 Time spent on JW activities growing up in an exemplary JW household
10:00 - 12:30 Vicky's teenage years and some family background
13:00 - 21:45 Will's teenage years and some family background
21:45 - 24:00 Vicky's abusive and controlling extremes in her family, what led to Vicky pioneering
24:00 - 30:30 The hypocrisy of our lives growing up, pressures and issues growing up a JW
30:30 - 35:40 Being a woman in the JW organization
35:40 - 39:35 More of Will's timeline and reasons for leaving the JWs
39:35 - 44:15 Will's judicial hearing at 16 with charges brought by his abuser
44:15 - 51:30 How Vicky and Will met, 2 minors being sent to stranger danger's house
51:30 - 54:15 Vicky and Will's time together as teenagers and our plan to meet back up
54:15 - 55:55 Will's later teen years and testifying against abuser in court
55:55 - 57:50 Why Will joined the Army
57:50 - 1:01:55 Vicky's judicial, what led to Vicky disassociating from the JWs
1:01:55 - 1:04:00 Will seeing some hypocrisy in the JWs
1:04:00 - 1:09:40 Vicky waking up and leaving
1:09:40 - 1:15:40 Will waking up and leaving, growing up a JW gives a different normal than society
1:15:40 - 1:22:45 Vicky and Will meeting again, brief history of our lives in between, helping to protect the vulnerable
1:22:45 - 1:30:35 Shunning experiences
1:30:35 - 1:34:35 JW friends vs real friends, naivete after being raised a JW
1:34:35 - 1:46:08 Advice for those waking up, leaving, and learning how to live. Wrapping up the interview
Happy to see you guys doing well and living life to the fullest. If anything that's something we all can take with us from our time in that cult is to appreciate life in freedom from abuse.
Yep! My sons grandma said we need to forgive predators because they are not perfect. Nope! The Governong Body is protecting these people and shunning victims. Absolutely disgusting!
Nope. Absolutely not. My mother has the same outlook. She basically served us up on a silver platter 🤦♀️😢
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you cant rehabilitate a pedophile.
Technically, forgiveness is for the victim, not the perpetrators. Holding on to mess and not dealing with it within will make one sick. Forgiveness does not mean what he did is okay, because it’s not. It simply means “I will not let this thing keep me from living a wholesome and/or healthy life.
@@arlenefisher4868 yes. This is true.
So far I listened to the first 18 minutes. I am so goddamn angry.
Thank you for your work and thank Will and Victoria for coming forward and sharing their stories.
Ditto!
Thank you for taking the time to listen to our story. Have a great day.
Watchtower is DANGEROUS RIP Raymond Franz
My heart goes out to this man. I am appalled at the behaviors of this organization. It's satanic!!! Only the Devil would rejoice in this type of treatment to children and women.
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It’s Disgusting when the WT GB’s says we Love you … Jehovah Loves you but then they’ll let the Abuser go because they say you have to have Two Witness in order to prove you’ve been “ Abused “…where’s the Holy Spirit protecting these Children !?!… Makes No Sense…I hope to see the Demise of this man made organization go down in my lifetime
Wow these stories are so tragic. I can see how this culture is the longer I’m listening to this story. It kind of makes everything fall in place 😢
Thank you for taking the time to listen to our story. Have a great day.
Thank you for being brave for sharing your story!
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😢 powerful life stories. It's amazing what we can go through and come out alive and somewhat well;). I have simular trauma in my life and will continue to dig myself out. Saying hi from Washington. state
Hey another Washington EXJW 👋! We need to get some local events going!
Hello from the UK. Thank you for taking the time to listen to our story.
I know a JW woman who was raped in a park by 2 men and was accused of going along with it because she didn’t scream. Yes this treatment of the issue is diabolical!
That’s devastating… This stuff needs to be exposed. They are doing so much damage.
Thankyou so much for sharing so openly . Love your love story along with the tragic life stories of both of you.
Thank you for the kind words. We are honored to be able to share our story.
This Is horrific. Movies need to be made about these experiences. It would be one of the best ways to reach people 😢 On another note: they make a beautiful couple. ❤️🙏🏻
Movies definitely need to be made! One of my dreams is to produce a Netflix series. We deserve it!
@@exjwdiaries Yes 🙌 That would be wonderful. Not only for ex and current witnesses but more importantly for the people who don’t really know about the organization.
There is a British comedy series that came out in 2023 called " everyone else burns". It mirrors nearly every thing about the jw"s. I don't know what the writers based it on, but it sure seems like the Jw's to me.! It's on All 4 in the UK.
Thank you, Justin, for your work on your channel, and in this program for giving Will and Vicky a place to tell their story. To Will and Vicky, you are both beautiful, very strong people who have survived the front lines of a battle while growing up. I am the age to be your mom, but our age difference melts away here as I, too, survived CSA and violence in my JW home as a child and then for decades in my marriage to a JW man. I feel your pain as I hear your experiences, but at the same time I see you now and am so proud of you both! We are all made stronger by being able to tell the truth of our stories, to be heard by people who believe us, and to connect with others who have experienced the same things from the elders and others in the Watchtower org when we dared reach out to them as victims of horrible abuse. From this we see that it was not we who were unlovable or somehow to blame for our abuse, but rather, the elders and others in the org were not able to love us or protect us because of the control they were under. We are the fortunate ones. We woke up, we got out from under the control of this cult and are now free to learn and free to love all of our fellow humans. May you both be blessed on your healing journey.❤
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Thank you Justin for finding the most beautiful people to share their life’s stories. You as a caring and most knowledgeable host has helped so many people wake up and get help is life saving. I can’t image the pressures that the GB org. Use against you to shut you down. Please take time to take care of yourself because you have been so important for healing and real truth that I personally know have saved the lives of ex jws and families. Please never leave us. We love you.
Become a jw and be united in evil.!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing your story Vicky and Will. Traumatic to listen to let alone live through.! So happy that you got out❤
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Thank you Will and Vicky for your bravery and honesty in sharing your story! Im so sorry for what you both went through due to the disgusting JW organization! Love to you both in your healing and a better future!!! 💞
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@@guardianfury2436 🩷
So horrible!😢
Thank you for your activism and sharing this❤
Apostate greetings from the Netherlands 💪🏼🇳🇱
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Please take them to court!
So happy Will & Vicky found each other again! Very sad, but powerful and a testament to overcoming & thriving.
I really hope Will gets to take her to WA & the peninsula - my favorite town is Port Townsend. Then a trip down the Oregon Coast 😊
We thank you for the love and support. That is a beautiful area/drive!
You're two beautiful people. I'm glad you're survivors and the evil Watchtower didn't destroy you. You are still here to tell your tale of survival. Your story is harrowing, but it gives others hope. Thanks guys
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Thank you so much Will and Vicky for sharing your story. We met you in DC at the protest. You are an inspiration for us to do more to speak out against this organization. Vicky, thank you for wearing the EXJW pin.
We thank you for the love and support. It was great to meet you at the protest in DC!
Vicki and Will we are so proud of you two, your bravery and courage exposing the criminals in Watchtower. The evidence you provide is going to help others avoid the pain you endured. And you will see the organization pay the consequences. They won’t get away with it.
We thank you.
Thank you for sharing, your stories were both amazing and inspiring with what you both overcame. And how you came back together!
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I was born and raised in WA. I visit usually once a year. So beautiful. Amazing strength from both of you. Thank you for sharing
Thank you for your kind words.
Thanks for sharing! I’m sure this was extremely painful for you to disclose! But it highlighted how horrible this group wrecks havoc on people’s lives! You both deserve much respect!
Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to hear our story.
I'm 69th viewer! Yeh baby it's a long-ass vid but I'll try and watch it whole
It’s shocking to hear your experiences first hand. We hear about CSU cases etc but this is my first hearing it from victims. I feel so moved, so sorry for what you went through. Believe me I can relate to much of what you said about JW life. Happily in our family we weren’t abused by a pedophile but faced a little different lesser abuse. In spite of the horrible traumas you seem well adjusted, considering all that was lost. I’d love to meet you both someday. Such beautiful real people. Really, I wish you the best! ❤
thank you will and vicky
You're welcome, thank you for watching
I wonder what it must take to force the Watchtower Society to change their wrongful policies, such as that of discouraging elders and members from reporting cases of alleged sexual abuse against children to police and other law enforcement authorities. It seems to me that our U.S. government needs to be involved in investigating charges of unlawful acts at the headquarters of the Watchtower Society, just as other nations, such as Norway, Australia, and Japan were. Thank you for sharing your awful experiences in that cult.
By the way, I have an idea; Why not call the Watchtower Society the Division Society, because it divides families by their shunning policy?
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I am the 25th viewer
Vicky it's nice to hear a familiar accent! I'm on the way out currently from Lancashire UK
Question, talking to a PIMQ. They said elders have to report to to CPS now. Can you fond out if this is true? Thanks
In Ireland it is the law that anyone in a religious position must report CSA. I'm not sure about other countries. Unless it is required by law, elders will not report CSA.
I think it's different in different states in the US. STUPID!
In the U.S. different states have different rules. Having mandatory reporting in all 50 states is something we are pushing for.
Unless something has changed, the current rule is to handle CSA cases within the congregation so as to “not bring reproach on Jehovah’s name”. In some cases this has caused elders to literally ask parents to not go to the police. Some elders who have went to the police against the wishes of the rest of the elder body have been removed from their position. In the cases where the state does require reporting, it seems to be 50/50. Sometimes they do it but there have been many cases where they don’t. Luckily in cases where they don’t report in a mandatory reporting state, it’s an easy lawsuit.
Regardless of the state rules, the elders are always told to first call the legal department before anyone else. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE!! The first call should be to the police, NOT headquarters.
If it is the law in the area you are in they are told to comply. If not they don’t report. Elders got a criminal conviction in Chicago I think it was because they didn’t follow the laws there. One was a teacher. They escaped jail due to ill health and age. In Ireland when an elder body went to the the police they all got removed as there’s no mandatory reporting laws there at the time it occurred or UK
The don't want change because they are in the 🌑 dark.
ive watched this vid.. a number of times.. wish i could send 10 likes each time
Vicky sounds like a Yorkshire lass . Greetings from the U.K 😄👋
Will I put a comment in another video that you and your wife were in, you mentioned you spent time in Vernon TX,I’m from Lawton Oklahoma
I remember Lawton well, about an hour and a half from where I lived near Vernon. I hope this finds you well and thank you for checking out the videos.
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Very interesting information, from.which country are you.
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Hi Justin i have a question but it has nothing to do with the religion (I am ex jw) but because you have more resources then I do I was thinking you might know someone who know some stuff with mental illness problems. So I was wondering would you by any chance know someone who knows anything that deals with fnd (functional neurological disorder) or Did (dissociative identity disorder)
I will do some searching!
@@exjwdiaries thank you so much I greatly appreciate it 🙏
Where is Will's TH-cam channel?
Guardian Fury is my channel.
@@guardianfury2436 Thank you!!! Your interviews really touched my heart. I'm about to binge watch your channel. I just woke up about 1 year ago. I'm torn between wanting to leave it completely behind mentally and live in the countryside just like you say or doing major activist work!
I grew up in Lincoln but moved to Lewiston auburn Maine in 98. Were you there then?
I'm glad you found each other. Now ....READ the Bible and learn about the Real Savior Jesus Christ. You will see that Satan uses ppl, who use religion, to Steall, Kill and Destroy. God Bless you both
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Enable??? What do You mean enable ??? They have hundreds of articles for parents and children education in sexual matters.