The Sabian XSRs are really awesome for the price. I’ve really enjoyed the couple of crashes that I have. I really dig your page. Your personality and knowledge on cymbals is a joy to watch! Thanks
That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I bought a 16" S crash awhile back and love it. I was contemplating the switch to the S series. After this video Ima go with the S series hands down. Thanks
You are hysterical! That look on your face after you hit the cymbal for the 1st time.... Terry, I currently have all Zildjian's A series cymbals. 14" New Beats, 18" A Medium thin crash, 16" A medium crash. Would the 20" S series crash fit with those?
Just finally got to use mine on an 3 song ep (professional recording) and WOW!! I've also done numerous gigs now with it mic'd and a couple even un mic'd and WOW!! What a fantastic all around cymbal, rideable also, so of course I grabbed two more. Fits in great with my A's and K's. Oh' also picked up the S 20'' trash crash for shites and WOW!!
Hi Terry , Drums Etc. brings back good memories, I was one of the first to buy the 7ply thin mm all maple 1999 ludwig kits from Rick. I hope you enjoyed the gig you had there.
The S series line is actual a B12 alloy like the Paiste 2002. Just a bit more copper. The thin crashes are very beautiful, glassy and melodic. The 20 inch is just a BEAUTY!
Crazy, you know how many times I stopped playing as a kid because I thought the house phone was ringing. Imo the 77 2002 Medium 1945 gram, is the best sounding 20 inch I've ever heard, or played.
@@bonzoleum I agree totally! I've seen some pictures of Bonham from the 79/80 tour, and he was using 4 crashes. I'd bet he was using 2 medium 18's, and 20's. I've also seen pics of him using 602's, and even Giant Beats well after they discontinued them. Man, I gotta hand it to you. You know you "shiet". You mentioned Paiste should use the catchphrase "Nobody does B8 like Paiste" I'd definitely buy a tee shirt with that on it!
Terry. You sure do know your shite, mate. Awesome. I just bought some Meinl dark crashes. Pure Sex cymbals mate. I kept my paiste cymbals tho. But I do want/need a thin 20" crash. Thanks for chucking a proper spanner in the works! 😂😂 I really like that one mate. Took me about 6 months to choose the last ones. 😂 Back and forth to the drum shop. Auditioning cymbals all night on TH-cam. 😴 You have to hear them don't you. Only then you will know. Take it easy Terry la. 👊🏻😎
I love my S Rock hi hats and 22 S Rock ride but the S Rock crashes were way too loud and the high frequencies shredded my ears. I swapped the crashes for A Customs. I also adore my K dark thin crashes.
LOL..good video about that cymbal but I think that mic on top is awesome..picking it so well. I got all sort os Zs but getting use to Paragons now and Evolutions, trying to decide which set to go with. Hey by the way, has anyone told you that you could play Elton John's double in a movie? lol ..you had that face in the freeze up part! Cheers!
I bought three S series a few years ago. The 22 in medium ride i still have. The 20 in rock crash went strong for two years then just died on me. The 18 in rock crash was kind of a dog right from the start and then died within a year. I would LOVE to have that 505 medium!!
Would love for you to review some more current products. Not really saying P is better than Z, but like a more in depth version of this video, where you touched on the 3 different S family 20" offerings. Maybe get all of the S family hihats and explain their strengths/weaknesses.
Loving the videos! Thank you for the bonzo/drum education/entertainment. Question for you: if I wanted a good budget crash ride, do you think the PST7 light ride or the zildjian s 20 thin crash would work better?
The Avedis line,to me,hit the sweet spot. Recently got a set of 14"hats( perfect ) and a 21"crash-ride( again,perfect ). They just need to make a 24". Please check these out! They don't look like much, but they feel and sound incredible, like a 602 with more body and richness.
Thanks Terry, because of your videos on the Zildjian S Thin Crash, I went ahead and ordered the 18” Thin Crash and it sounds great. Amazon had a sale for $100 shipped so I couldn’t pass that up. I’ve got my eye on that 20” as well. Just curious what your thoughts are on Dream Cymbals?
! (@3:19) Holy fuckING shit!!!!😂😂 I thought the screen froze. 😂😂 but I totally understand your reaction as a paiste lover. Lol. Thinner cymbals have more volume and sustain, I guess. Do u have a comparable weight 20" in a paiste to compare? Love you, man.
Well, of course the B12 are closer to B8 in makeup. I don't have any firsthand experience with the rides, as I feel they (Zildjian) don't offer an ideal weight as I'm concerned (for my taste that is). The 24" they offer is like 3900 grams (I'm sure a lot of folks will dig it), but it'd be nice to have a 3300 or less gram one. Same for the 22" S ride models. I called them and gave them my opinion on this. As well as offering 15" S Series hats- and of course 15" S Mastersound as well. For comparison, the B8 alloy Paiste 24" GB reissue Multis are all pretty much in the 2900-3000 gram range.
@@bonzoleum Thank you for your thoughtful reply! I guess I was hoping that this series was Zildjian's "take" to recreate a/the classic Paiste sound. I'm an early 80s Zildjian A owner (14" new beat hats, 20" Med Ride, 16" med crash, 18" Swish Knocker), some late 80s Sabian HH crashes, and mid 2000 Sabian HH effects cymbals. Currently, I'm looking for a new/different sound (and not necessarily "brand loyal"). Thank you for your videos as they are fantastic!
Terry I desperately need your help! I'm on a quest to find the alleged Ludwig Blucrolite snare drum. Your wanton song cover video is the only piece of evidence I've found on the entire internet that this thing even exists
bonzoleum, Ok. Thanks. What do you think of the Heirloom snares? At first I thought they looked a little tacky but I think I really like them now. I haven't gotten to see any up close, to the guitar center Monopoly is starting to close stores near me and few stores other than them have consistent new drum merchandise.
I had a 24" ride. 4299 grams...SECOND heaviest ride I've ever owned (hollow logo 21" Rock Ride owned in the 90's was about 4 or 5 grams heavier). Anyway, it wasn't for me. I took it back. Paid like $220 clams or so, out the door. You're right Bonzoleum, they're not a bad cymbal, just not for me. According to JDA over at Cymbalholic, they're made of B12.
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Terry..I love the Zildjian S series so much I started taking B-12 vitamins :D
"HOLLY FUCKING SHIT!!!" My favorite Terry Keeting quote ever.
The Sabian XSRs are really awesome for the price. I’ve really enjoyed the couple of crashes that I have. I really dig your page. Your personality and knowledge on cymbals is a joy to watch! Thanks
Thank you!!
I don't pretend to know the first thing about drumming but as a die hard Led Zeppelin fan I really dig your videos.
That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I bought a 16" S crash awhile back and love it. I was contemplating the switch to the S series. After this video Ima go with the S series hands down. Thanks
I agree..one of the best 20” crashes I’ve heard in a while
Thanks for the tip Terry. For Father's Day I was pleasantly surprised to unwrap a 20" Zildjian S Thin Crash. Loving it.
TERRIFIC, J!!!!!!!!!
my favorite crashes:
paiste formula 602 thin
sabian aax saturation
zildjian avedis reissue
paiste signature reflector
paiste giant beat
sabian hhx legacy
meinl dual
meinl extra dry
meinl jazz
"look at that" *blinds anyone watching with cymbal*
when he pulled a zildjian i was mind blown
I just bought the Zildjian 20" S Thin Crash around 1750 Grams. Thanks for this video. My favorite crash now👍
How's the 20" S Thin Crash working for you? Thinking of checking out the S line based on Terry's review.
surfwake69
Love it!
Love your videos, great knowledge on cymbals and great content in general, you rock 🤘
Not at all a zildjian guy myself, but the S series are fantastic cymbals for the price!! & They sound amazing.
These cymbals get a lot of bad reviews by the A and K fanboys. I use A & K but love the S as well.
Terry love ya man, you brighten my day. Keep making videos.
I have the zildjian S hi hats, but i love the 502 sound, wow!! I could see using the 20 inch rock or medium-thin as a ride.
I love the way you play drums. Great video
Thanks Joe!
Glad your doing a drum clinic Terri. You bet lots of people will show up! Your looking quite trim and fit too. Glad your doimg well
God damn it terry now i want to buy that thing haha
I honestly think the finest sounding crash cymbal I've ever heard was the one Bonham plays in "Stairway to Heaven"
Jim Schrom 2002s
@@aleksandarcurguz2428 16” 505 and/or Giant Beats 🔥
You're playing on my birthday. 9/23!!! Wish I could attend but it's suppose to be the end of the world that day and I live in Toledo. Lol.
His face when he hit the crash made me laugh so hard!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
3:06 I had to put down my phone from laughing so hard 😂😂😂
Agreed. Great sound!!! Btw You could review the Colaiuta's new Paistes. I'm very curious about that.
Great dynamic range. From a whisper to RIP ears. Cheers!
Dude, do not ever change!
I shan’t! Thanks Tim!
Mine was just delivered :^) thanks for the suggestion, Terry!
That's terrific, Gerald! Enjoy!!!
You are hysterical! That look on your face after you hit the cymbal for the 1st time....
Terry, I currently have all Zildjian's A series cymbals. 14" New Beats, 18" A Medium thin crash, 16" A medium crash. Would the 20" S series crash fit with those?
You sold me one ! just got it today zildjian should pay you now thanks again amazing sound.
just got one of these . LOVE IT ! thanks for showing it off !
I love you man! What a killer cymbal.
Im holding onto my cash until those prototype Paiste “large FRB’s” come out
YES!!
Ah Bonzoleum! You ease my pain. :)
alan duncan Yeah, I feel better about myself too after watching his vids
Just finally got to use mine on an 3 song ep (professional recording) and WOW!! I've also done numerous gigs now with it mic'd and a couple even un mic'd and WOW!! What a fantastic all around cymbal, rideable also, so of course I grabbed two more. Fits in great with my A's and K's. Oh' also picked up the S 20'' trash crash for shites and WOW!!
Zildjian s series a great sounding cymbals
Yes,i am blown away,and now looking for a used one.505,and 404 paiste cymbals are dear to me also.
YES
Hi Terry , Drums Etc. brings back good memories, I was one of the first to buy the 7ply thin mm all maple 1999 ludwig kits from Rick. I hope you enjoyed the gig you had there.
Thanks Tim-it was fun, and all the Drums Etc. guys were great!
The S series line is actual a B12 alloy like the Paiste 2002. Just a bit more copper. The thin crashes are very beautiful, glassy and melodic. The 20 inch is just a BEAUTY!
Yes! S Series are B12, but 2002 is B8.
Laughing my ass off with this guy
That crash is dam nice lol 😂
Crazy, you know how many times I stopped playing as a kid because I thought the house phone was ringing. Imo the 77 2002 Medium 1945 gram, is the best sounding 20 inch I've ever heard, or played.
1945 is a great weight for a B8 20". It'd be nice to have each a modern 1880 and a 1945 gram 20" Giant Beat.
@@bonzoleum I agree totally! I've seen some pictures of Bonham from the 79/80 tour, and he was using 4 crashes. I'd bet he was using 2 medium 18's, and 20's. I've also seen pics of him using 602's, and even Giant Beats well after they discontinued them. Man, I gotta hand it to you. You know you "shiet". You mentioned Paiste should use the catchphrase "Nobody does B8 like Paiste" I'd definitely buy a tee shirt with that on it!
Great stuff, I still use 2 Paiste 505 crashes I bought at Sam Ash in NY in 1982, to me they sound like 2002's....
I'm crying over hear 😅😅😅😅"HOLY FUCKING SHIT "
Nathan Van Slyke ikr!!!😂😂😂
Gonna have to get this crash because of this video. Had the s trash crash before but this one kils it. Fellow dfo member. Love your videos!
Terry. You sure do know your shite, mate.
Awesome.
I just bought some Meinl dark crashes.
Pure Sex cymbals mate.
I kept my paiste cymbals tho.
But I do want/need a thin 20" crash.
Thanks for chucking a proper spanner in the works! 😂😂
I really like that one mate.
Took me about 6 months to choose the last ones. 😂
Back and forth to the drum shop.
Auditioning cymbals all night on TH-cam. 😴
You have to hear them don't you.
Only then you will know.
Take it easy Terry la. 👊🏻😎
I bought this cymbal after watching your video. This thing sounds amazing. Especially for $200. What ride cymbals do you like?
Typically I prefer a B20 alloy ride cymbal. The 22" Paiste Fo 602 22" THIN FLATRIDE is beautiful..
I love my S Rock hi hats and 22 S Rock ride but the S Rock crashes were way too loud and the high frequencies shredded my ears. I swapped the crashes for A Customs. I also adore my K dark thin crashes.
Yes the high frequencies turn some folks off about them.
@@bonzoleum yeah just try laying into the 20" S Rock crash sometime. Instant pain.
LOL..good video about that cymbal but I think that mic on top is awesome..picking it so well. I got all sort os Zs but getting use to Paragons now and Evolutions, trying to decide which set to go with. Hey by the way, has anyone told you that you could play Elton John's double in a movie? lol ..you had that face in the freeze up part! Cheers!
I had a 18"Paiste Signature series that sounded great,you should check those out Terry.Love the videos buddy keep up the good work.
3:04 This is why I love watching your videos.
I bought three S series a few years ago. The 22 in medium ride i still have. The 20 in rock crash went strong for two years then just died on me. The 18 in rock crash was kind of a dog right from the start and then died within a year. I would LOVE to have that 505 medium!!
It’s got some good qualities of both B8 and B20
Would love for you to review some more current products. Not really saying P is better than Z, but like a more in depth version of this video, where you touched on the 3 different S family 20" offerings. Maybe get all of the S family hihats and explain their strengths/weaknesses.
Sounds amazing Tez!
If Donnie Iris’s drummer used that cymbal, I’d buy it.
I have zildjian S rock crash 18)) it's amazing crash
terry you should do a recording analysis and lesson for your time is gonna come from zeppelin 1 i was shocked that you dont have a video on it
Loving the videos! Thank you for the bonzo/drum education/entertainment. Question for you: if I wanted a good budget crash ride, do you think the PST7 light ride or the zildjian s 20 thin crash would work better?
Hi Nick-the Zildjian S is brighter, the PST 7 darker... What you putting it with?
If you like the Zildijan 20" crash, do yourself a favor and try the Istanbul XIST 20" crash. It's similar in price and sounds really great.
I have a full set of S series Zildjian and love them.
I've got a 17" Medium Thin Crash that sounds great from the S line!
I tried out the 18 it was amazing too gonna get one
The Avedis line,to me,hit the sweet spot. Recently got a set of 14"hats( perfect ) and a 21"crash-ride( again,perfect ). They just need to make a 24".
Please check these out! They don't look like much, but they feel and sound incredible, like a 602 with more body and richness.
Thanks Terry, because of your videos on the Zildjian S Thin Crash, I went ahead and ordered the 18” Thin Crash and it sounds great. Amazon had a sale for $100 shipped so I couldn’t pass that up. I’ve got my eye on that 20” as well. Just curious what your thoughts are on Dream Cymbals?
! (@3:19) Holy fuckING shit!!!!😂😂 I thought the screen froze. 😂😂 but I totally understand your reaction as a paiste lover. Lol. Thinner cymbals have more volume and sustain, I guess. Do u have a comparable weight 20" in a paiste to compare? Love you, man.
k mounts33 😂😂😂 It begins at 3:04
BRC 🤣👍🏻
Now I need a good crash in the same price range to pair this with
Giant Beat kills this.
I have to agree.
maybe, but is it worth the extra100 bucks? OK if you gotta rich daddy go ahead.
19" thin in Paiste pst7 sounds best out of batch also. 2002 i dont need this n but the cheaper pies seem to do best thin.
Hit crash, LOOKS INTENSELY.
It does have a pretty gnarly ringing to it on the 5k+ range
Love it! How does the S Series compare for rides & hats as far as B12 vs B8/B15?
Well, of course the B12 are closer to B8 in makeup. I don't have any firsthand experience with the rides, as I feel they (Zildjian) don't offer an ideal weight as I'm concerned (for my taste that is). The 24" they offer is like 3900 grams (I'm sure a lot of folks will dig it), but it'd be nice to have a 3300 or less gram one. Same for the 22" S ride models. I called them and gave them my opinion on this. As well as offering 15" S Series hats- and of course 15" S Mastersound as well.
For comparison, the B8 alloy Paiste 24" GB reissue Multis are all pretty much in the 2900-3000 gram range.
@@bonzoleum Thank you for your thoughtful reply! I guess I was hoping that this series was Zildjian's "take" to recreate a/the classic Paiste sound. I'm an early 80s Zildjian A owner (14" new beat hats, 20" Med Ride, 16" med crash, 18" Swish Knocker), some late 80s Sabian HH crashes, and mid 2000 Sabian HH effects cymbals.
Currently, I'm looking for a new/different sound (and not necessarily "brand loyal"). Thank you for your videos as they are fantastic!
Zilgian finally got a good formula for b 12 I like 2002s from paiste but these s seris amazing gear
The c in scimitar is silent. It's sim as in SIM card not skim.
profmartin1967 my whole life has been a lie 0_0
Scintillating!
scamtar sound like dustbin lids. Paiste Alpha 10 times better sound.
Also, my UFIP class 20 inch crash sounds just as good man
I just bought an S series 5 cymbal pack. 14" Rock HI Hats, 18" Rock Crash, 20" Rock Crash, and 22" Rock Ride.
That's terrific, James!!!!! Let me know if you dig them!
Mine are the B12 Rock cymbals 88% Copper 12% Tin. They sound awesome!
here is a link to see my whole kit
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What other crash cymbals would you recommend to compliment this 20" crash? I love it and want to get one. Also what ride do you recommend? Thanks
Crazy guy
I have several of these. Incuding a 16" which is the best 16 I've ever heard.
i've got an 18" 2002 medium. Great cymbal.
If u like S family you will love the A custom
Hey Terry! Do you mic the bass drum or do you just use the condenser above your shoulder for everything?
Dude you are the Hunter S. Thompson of drums
Fuckin Aey man, this blew my fucking mind!
i really like my Zidljain 17 inch a custom thin crash
17" cymbals are a great size. I have an A Zil 17" Medium Thin and it's one of my babies.
@@bonzoleum Niceeee! =]
Try a Paiste Signature HEAVY FULL REFLECTOR in 19" size. Best cymbal ever, for soft and loud playing. Even better than the Full Crashes
Have you done a video on the Zildjian project 391 cymbals?
Not gonna lie.. that did sound pretty spectacular.. lol
Hilarious! Nice job.
Finest in your opinion. Fact is sooooo many nice sounding 20 crashes out there
I just a few months ago stopped using paistie and started using Zildjan
I love my 502+ cymbals.
Still like my 20" 2002 Medium, the Best for riding
My favorite crash is the sabian aax xplosion fast crash
When pst lover has found his sound in zildjian...
Lancaster pa? What are you going to be doing ? I live in Pittsburgh
I love Zildjian cymbals. A Customs!!!
Sounds delicious, TOTAL BEEFCAKE!!!!!
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have you tried any A custom Fast crashes? my 18" and 16" sound great
Terry I desperately need your help! I'm on a quest to find the alleged Ludwig Blucrolite snare drum. Your wanton song cover video is the only piece of evidence I've found on the entire internet that this thing even exists
Whats going on with those green sparkle drums in the back there?
Is that a Ludwig heirloom snare in the background, and if so do you have a video you have done on it that I've missed?
No, it’s a Ludwig STANDARD.
bonzoleum, Ok. Thanks. What do you think of the Heirloom snares? At first I thought they looked a little tacky but I think I really like them now. I haven't gotten to see any up close, to the guitar center Monopoly is starting to close stores near me and few stores other than them have consistent new drum merchandise.
I had a 24" ride. 4299 grams...SECOND heaviest ride I've ever owned (hollow logo 21" Rock Ride owned in the 90's was about 4 or 5 grams heavier). Anyway, it wasn't for me. I took it back. Paid like $220 clams or so, out the door. You're right Bonzoleum, they're not a bad cymbal, just not for me. According to JDA over at Cymbalholic, they're made of B12.