First off, thank you for what you do. Keep on making great videos. I have learned a bit and saved some money along the way. Secondly; It isn't mold release. I do believe it is mud, from the water jet that was used to cut it out of a sheet. The top and bottom finish looks like raw finish from the steel mill, while the outside and inside edges appear to be either water jet or plasma cut. For the price of those, I am surprised at the lack of quality, not to mention the ease of use issue.
You are absolutely right. I am just really stupid when it comes to metal. This thing is clearly water/plasma/laser cut or something like that. It never occurred to me. I knew it didn't seem molded or machined or stamped but I didn't think it through any further. Maybe the cutting method is why it costs so much?
Oh water cut? Figured it mist be either laser or water from the smooth edges. For the price of it they could polish the damn thing in a vibratory rock tumbler with some paste.
Defiantly looks LASER cut to me. I operate a LASER machine at work. It looks to have been run thru a type of tumbler and has had some grinding done to it as well (around the finger reliefs). At $30 a piece they should have burned it out and then machined out the holes used to pull the bullets.
I find that a electrical crimper works every bit as well as the "grip and pull". Simply use the part of the crimper designed to crimp the strain relief. It works especially well with 223 rounds, with no discernible damage to the bullet itself. Plus, it's a much less expensive option.
I say drill that top hole out to make the top bend thinner material = easier to squeeze. And yes some plasti-dip or rubber hose on the grips would be good.
I have one and something I do is actually expand it and then slide it down as close to the case mouth as possible. I also flip it up side down so the finger grips are not at my thumb. Since then it actually has worked really well.
RCBS bullet puller is the sh*t period! Easy as heck to use, the collets are nice and strong and once you've pulled a few and get a rhythm down, no scarring on the bullets. This is my go to when I f**k up a batch, and if it's one or two rounds then it's the kinetic hammer. Cool vid tho JRB
Nice update on the grip and try and pull,, I made one out of a R-8 collet and just use the same at RCBS kind. If your going to keep that G&P put a bicycle grip on the end, but fill it with silicone first and let it try, the pressure you need to close it the handles are very thin as you know. Thanks for all you do with the videos
I wish I had the money to send you a Hornady, press mounted, collet bullet puller and a bunch of collets. No complaints and lots of praise for this system.
Good honest review Johnny. One of my reloading buddies has some cheap Harbor Freight channel locks (A set or four of them) that he custom drilled out the holes for his bullet sizes, Then he bead-blasted the interior of the holes along with the Jaws of the channel locks. Those are his go-to pullers. However, You hit on one thing, The kinetic puller leaves damage free bullets from the pulling process.
I own one of these but it marks up my bullets something awful. I gave mine to my nephew and he is using a lite coat of rubber paint to prevent the scratches. As for me I’ll continue using my Hornady bullet puller. And my kinetic hammer for smaller rounds. Great video Johnny as usual. Thanks
Have you tried RCBS coller puller? I have it and easy to do a batch and it doesn't leave marks, slippage is rare once you figure out how much you need to tighten it. I've pulled factory 7.62 lacquered sealed bullets with it without leaving marks, also works perfectly with 22 cal. That and blue FA kinnetic puller covers all my bullet pulling needs.
For those bullets that slip either hip n pull all you need to do is put it your seating die and brake you crimp . Then use your puller . It only take a few thousands of a inch . Even with the kinetic bullet puller I run my bullet in my seating die to brake the crimp it’s a lot easier
I love my grip and pulls have pulled 3-400 round with them . I bough a can of rubber grip coating and put about 6 coats of rubber grip coating on the grip and pull and it improved the grip 200%
I had to pull 500 .38SPL. Started with the impact style, not gonna happen! Went with the RCBS version, it is great. When I'm loading, I put it in my spare press and pull when needed. I bought the collet for all my different calibers. I usually buy Lee stuff, but they don't make a puller.
I've worked with these before. There needs to be a hinge where the two handles meet at the top. It kills your hand trying to squeeze the bullet, and I think it's because there's too much tension.
I had the same experience as you. I had a bunch of 6.5 Rem. Mag that was loaded for an old Rem. Model 600. The short blind magazine of the Model 600 all the bullets real deep. I fought hard to get the bullets pulled and they were too damaged to reuse.
Thanks for the honest review. I like the Hornady bullet puller that you attach to your press. The only downside is you have to purchase collets for each caliber.
Johnny if you think about it by polishing the bullet hole it will give you more bearing surface. With a ruff surface you only have tips of the jagged material gripping the bullet. Polished will make the entire surface of the puller grip the bullet.
I guess you could use some channel lock type pliers to put more pressure on the grip and save your hand. Would slow you down a little but should eliminate the slip
I use a pair of old linesman’s pliers that my sparky buddy hit a hot wire with. It blew a piece out of the cutter so I run my rounds up the press clamp it in the V groove of the pliers and it leaves 3 little teeth marks in the jackets and I’ve shot a few after pulling them with no effect of functionality. Got the pliers free and the bullets can still work if you’re daring enough. Look worst case I was gonna shoot the bullet anyway and if I throw it in the trash instead of blowing my face off I’ll pay for the few that didn’t go down the barrel. Great video man!
I know this is gonna sound crazy but I cured the slip problem by dipping the bullets in powdered rosin just like athleats (spelling?) use. It works. As for the kinetic bullet puller goes they work best by using a heavy rahide leather maul,(hamer) . I use a antigue 4 lb rawhide maul that I use on my leather bench for tooling leather (only a little) because of it's heft. It works better than wood or any other suface I've tried and beleave me I've tried just about eveything and broke several kinetic hammers also. But using the rawhide mallet or maul I've not broken my last purchase and it's lasted years now.
good concept. however a $14 soft-jaw pliers from Lowes did the job. Just lay flat on press, squeeze and lower ram. bullet doesn't drop and can be dropped in bucket and NO bullet damage. I did 60 pulls in about 10 to 12 minutes. Very quick and easy.
I almost ordered one of these when looking at bullet pullers. I'm glad I ended up with the Hornady, though it took awhile to figure out how to get it to work well. ►After raising the ram, hold the press handle with light pressure so that the puller's handle can move the ram down until the collet grips the bullet wherever it's happiest. I find that I don't have to "lock down" the cam lever to pull bullets if I do this,and I don't mark up bullets nearly as often, and I'm pulling swaged brass jacketed bullets. ►The right striking surface changes everything when using a kinetic hammer. Dense steel that doesn't move (in my case a short chunk of railroad track) makes them work great. Even 55 gn .223 only take a few whacks. It just occurred to me that a thin plastic vial that fits loosely inside would contain everything cleanly for recovery. Some extra foam under it would cushion everything.
Excellent info, as usual! My 2 cents: Kinetic pullers - At the bottom, where the bullet lands after dislodging, is a piece of foam cushion material. Over time, this stuff wears from bullets striking it. When its pretty chewed up, the tip of the bullet may be somewhat distorted from striking the plastic 'floor' of the puller. If the bullet has a polymer tip (ELD-Match), the tip WILL be distorted. Sooo... Reuse those bullets, and blame the distorted tip for the 8 you shot!! Thanks for experimenting for our benefit! (I'm leaning toward the RCBS puller.)
What about wrapping that with some paracord? I think that would be comfortable in the hand and really easy to do. You might also be able to put a little bit of duct tape or electrical tape in between the crimp portions to pull the bullets without damaging them. Just kind of what I think of when I look at that tool. But I agree all bullet puller suck I think the saying goes measure twice cut once goes for installing bullets correctly also. Unless the headspace is messed up which at that point you're screwed
I have found that a small needle nose vise grip works well for me. Once you get it adjusted correctly. It does mar up the bullets sometimes but can be used with a press by laying it on top and pulling down on the handle. I used it on 100 FMJ 30-06 bullets that I bought by mistake on line that could not be shot at my range. I was able to put a new soft tip bullet in them so they would not be a complete loss. I do not plan to use the FMJ bullets I took out. Just threw them away. May not work for most.
Could you do a shoot out with pulled bullets with the dings and dents in them to see if they will shoot a good group. It would be fun and not waste any bullets ... keep up the good work
Great Review ! Perfect timing for me.....I am in the process of choosing reloading tools. Hopefully the manufacturer will correct the problems. Adding the "VICE GRIP" locking ability to the handle can help solve the bullet gripping problem.
Sorry if this question was already asked. TH-cam is giving most of the gun people strikes and time outs. Have you considered posting on Full 30? Really like your videos and would hate to see them go . Out of 5 stars, I give you a 10.
I have a question you or maybe another viewer could answer for me. I have some older maybe 15 years old IMR 4895 powder that I loaded up some 55gr hornady SP bullets with and it would not group at all. It looked like I shot the target with a shotgun. The powder looked and smelled fine. 23 to 25 grains in .5 increments. I loaded some 73 gr ELD-M with IMR 4064 and the groups were under an inch. Do you think the powder is bad or is 4895 just not accurate in a 223.
I bet it has more to do with the placement of the hole on the tool than anything. The mechanical leverage is all at the end. If it had .22/.224 and .30 at the end it would probably be "okay".
Good review, you may be could drill a bigger hole in the top off the tool and refine the top part with a belt sander, it should be easier to maneuver. For the problem of the grip may be some grip tape for tennis racket could help? Looking forward for the 224 walkyrie stuff 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.
Grip and pull on Amazon 48 bucks with shipping. Bull shit . Electricians pliers that snipe, strip, and crimp 20 bucks , best bullet pullers I ever used.
I hate my kinetic puller. I finally night the cam lock and love it, but I just reload for plinking ammo and cheap 300blk subs, so not a huge deal if it's accident a bit, though I've not had any scuffed really.
Newbie here I need help…soo I bought a new box of ammo, it’s Federal American Eagle .38 Special Soft point,…and I noticed that it looks like the bullet has a tiny flat on one side..like maby when the casing was crimped, the bullet itself got Grabbed, and there is a small flat on one side of the copper jacket? And on the other side there is a thin groove (Crimp mark) on the bullet right where the casing ends and the bullet begins.I figure the bullet is lead undernieth that copper jacket Can i use this bullet at the range? Will it be safe in my 1873 Winchester
The grip and pull works better then any other puller on the market. The only negative is when you have to pistol bullet on a turret or Progressive press . Good thing I still have my old single stage press . I still use my kinetic puller when I have one or two rounds to pull . The collet puller tear up the bullets or the case mouth or the bullets get stuck inside the collet
Looking at this tool, there are a couple of modifications that should be done by the manufacturer that might help a lot in it's actual function. First, there are no reasons I can think of to justify so much space between the various calibers. They should all be moved towards the fulcrum (30 caliber) to give you better mechanical advantage. Maybe it was made this way so strong men like you wouldn't collapse thin jacketed varmint bullets, but us older folks wouldn't have to make funny faces to use it. Second, they could either make the fulcrum a little thinner but then you strong guys might just snap it. I might try just filing a small notch inside the fulcrum and see if it helps any. You might even try finding a short piece of sturdy plastic tubing to slip over the bullet and would allow you to use one of the larger caliber positions to pull your bullets. I've used the RCBS one a lot but it's expensive too. Specially with all the available collets if you need them. As you said, the kinetic one is about the only one that works with pistol calibers. But man, if you're pulling some of those military one's with sealers, you have to beat the crap out of it.At least they are usually pretty heavy and that helps with the kinetic puller. No, I'm not strong enough to crack them, mine looks like new after may years of occasional use.
Great idea in theory but it just doesn’t work well. Takes a lot of strength to grip and still damages bullets. Slips way too much and marks up the bullets. Loved the idea of it but it definitely needs some improvements.
Well I didn't think u missed anything in RELOADING. I've had this for 2 years, great item. I haven't tried the 22 hole yet. It's easier than the one with the leaver on top. I put heat shrink on mine
Brother JRB. Anxiously waiting on the most anticipated video on TH-cam, about the most anticipated round in the shooting community. When can we expext it so I stop checking my updates every 10 minutes for days? Thanks man. No pressure
They have an official video up that shows the pistol puller. Amazingly they used it on the first problematic load that came to my mind - a .45 ACP round nose. It does look properly seated at the start, so almost no bearing surface. Of course they could easily have had an oversized case, no crimp, etc, but does sound at least a little promising. Too bad the price is so high!
Stupid chintzy 22 cal Forster seating stems have bit me in the ass twice now. I'll have a full explanation once I finally finish these 224 Valkyrie videos!
When I get a bullet that slips I turn the puller over and gently squeezy the puller. It will grip better but you need to be gentle or it will dent the bullet.
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First off, thank you for what you do. Keep on making great videos. I have learned a bit and saved some money along the way.
Secondly; It isn't mold release. I do believe it is mud, from the water jet that was used to cut it out of a sheet. The top and bottom finish looks like raw finish from the steel mill, while the outside and inside edges appear to be either water jet or plasma cut. For the price of those, I am surprised at the lack of quality, not to mention the ease of use issue.
You are absolutely right. I am just really stupid when it comes to metal. This thing is clearly water/plasma/laser cut or something like that. It never occurred to me. I knew it didn't seem molded or machined or stamped but I didn't think it through any further. Maybe the cutting method is why it costs so much?
Oh water cut? Figured it mist be either laser or water from the smooth edges. For the price of it they could polish the damn thing in a vibratory rock tumbler with some paste.
Defiantly looks LASER cut to me. I operate a LASER machine at work. It looks to have been run thru a type of tumbler and has had some grinding done to it as well (around the finger reliefs). At $30 a piece they should have burned it out and then machined out the holes used to pull the bullets.
You had me at rub-n-tug
Some of my jokes only hit 5% of you guys, but it's worth it.
I was dieing 😂😂😂
Johnny's Reloading Bench As long as it’s just the jokes hitting us... lol
That and talking about having trouble getting a good grip on a tool self labeled as the STD Rifle. Sometimes the jokes write themselves.
A good-honest review!!! Gotta respect that.
I find that a electrical crimper works every bit as well as the "grip and pull". Simply use the part of the crimper designed to crimp the strain relief. It works especially well with 223 rounds, with no discernible damage to the bullet itself. Plus, it's a much less expensive option.
I say drill that top hole out to make the top bend thinner material = easier to squeeze. And yes some plasti-dip or rubber hose on the grips would be good.
I have one and something I do is actually expand it and then slide it down as close to the case mouth as possible. I also flip it up side down so the finger grips are not at my thumb. Since then it actually has worked really well.
“Not to be confused with the Rub ‘n Tug”. LMAO! Just about sharted I laughed so hard! Thanks for that lil gem Johnnie!
Put gas hose , air hose or even garden hose if it fits, haven't tried the garden hose, just a thought. Get the right size major improvement.
RCBS bullet puller is the sh*t period! Easy as heck to use, the collets are nice and strong and once you've pulled a few and get a rhythm down, no scarring on the bullets. This is my go to when I f**k up a batch, and if it's one or two rounds then it's the kinetic hammer. Cool vid tho JRB
I've heard good thing about the RCBS. I think it's like the Hornady, though...you have to set it properly!
Same experience I'm having with mine. Thank You for the honest review.
Nice update on the grip and try and pull,, I made one out of a R-8 collet and just use the same at RCBS kind. If your going to keep that G&P put a bicycle grip on the end, but fill it with silicone first and let it try, the pressure you need to close it the handles are very thin as you know. Thanks for all you do with the videos
My RCBS collet style puller works the best and doesn’t mark my bullets up at all! It adjust tension via spinning a bar to tighten up, check it out!
I wish I had the money to send you a Hornady, press mounted, collet bullet puller and a bunch of collets.
No complaints and lots of praise for this system.
Good honest review Johnny. One of my reloading buddies has some cheap Harbor Freight channel locks (A set or four of them) that he custom drilled out the holes for his bullet sizes, Then he bead-blasted the interior of the holes along with the Jaws of the channel locks. Those are his go-to pullers. However, You hit on one thing, The kinetic puller leaves damage free bullets from the pulling process.
I own one of these but it marks up my bullets something awful. I gave mine to my nephew and he is using a lite coat of rubber paint to prevent the scratches. As for me I’ll continue using my Hornady bullet puller. And my kinetic hammer for smaller rounds. Great video Johnny as usual. Thanks
Have you tried RCBS coller puller? I have it and easy to do a batch and it doesn't leave marks, slippage is rare once you figure out how much you need to tighten it. I've pulled factory 7.62 lacquered sealed bullets with it without leaving marks, also works perfectly with 22 cal. That and blue FA kinnetic puller covers all my bullet pulling needs.
“They all suck in their own special way” JRB 2018,
For those bullets that slip either hip n pull all you need to do is put it your seating die and brake you crimp . Then use your puller . It only take a few thousands of a inch . Even with the kinetic bullet puller I run my bullet in my seating die to brake the crimp it’s a lot easier
I love my grip and pulls have pulled 3-400 round with them . I bough a can of rubber grip coating and put about 6 coats of rubber grip coating on the grip and pull and it improved the grip 200%
I had to pull 500 .38SPL. Started with the impact style, not gonna happen! Went with the RCBS version, it is great. When I'm loading, I put it in my spare press and pull when needed. I bought the collet for all my different calibers. I usually buy Lee stuff, but they don't make a puller.
I’m excited for Valkyrie videos, their bloopers and your ultimate success. I probably should get my WOA barrel ordered...
Ever try using a brake line flaring kit ? Mainly the part hold the line in place sounds crazy but it works.
I've worked with these before. There needs to be a hinge where the two handles meet at the top. It kills your hand trying to squeeze the bullet, and I think it's because there's too much tension.
OMG not to be confused with the rub and tug haha. I love your stuff keep it coming!!!!!
I had the same experience as you. I had a bunch of 6.5 Rem. Mag that was loaded for an old Rem. Model 600. The short blind magazine of the Model 600 all the bullets real deep. I fought hard to get the bullets pulled and they were too damaged to reuse.
Go rcbs good as gold the best Don
Thanks for the honest review. I like the Hornady bullet puller that you attach to your press. The only downside is you have to purchase collets for each caliber.
You have to turn the tool upside down before it will grip the bullet. I have two of them and they both work great
Look into the RCBS collet puller. I have great results with it. I have used it on 9mm and .223.
Johnny if you think about it by polishing the bullet hole it will give you more bearing surface. With a ruff surface you only have tips of the jagged material gripping the bullet. Polished will make the entire surface of the puller grip the bullet.
I guess you could use some channel lock type pliers to put more pressure on the grip and save your hand. Would slow you down a little but should eliminate the slip
I use a pair of old linesman’s pliers that my sparky buddy hit a hot wire with. It blew a piece out of the cutter so I run my rounds up the press clamp it in the V groove of the pliers and it leaves 3 little teeth marks in the jackets and I’ve shot a few after pulling them with no effect of functionality. Got the pliers free and the bullets can still work if you’re daring enough. Look worst case I was gonna shoot the bullet anyway and if I throw it in the trash instead of blowing my face off I’ll pay for the few that didn’t go down the barrel. Great video man!
I know this is gonna sound crazy but I cured the slip problem by dipping the bullets in powdered rosin just like athleats (spelling?) use. It works. As for the kinetic bullet puller goes they work best by using a heavy rahide leather maul,(hamer) . I use a antigue 4 lb rawhide maul that I use on my leather bench for tooling leather (only a little) because of it's heft. It works better than wood or any other suface I've tried and beleave me I've tried just about eveything and broke several kinetic hammers also. But using the rawhide mallet or maul I've not broken my last purchase and it's lasted years now.
good concept. however a $14 soft-jaw pliers from Lowes did the job. Just lay flat on press, squeeze and lower ram. bullet doesn't drop and can be dropped in bucket and NO bullet damage. I did 60 pulls in about 10 to 12 minutes. Very quick and easy.
The RCBS bullet puller works wonders
Honest review thank you, with my hands I would be screwed. LOL
Thanks for the honesty JRB! Rub-n-tug, still LMBO!
I almost ordered one of these when looking at bullet pullers. I'm glad I ended up with the Hornady, though it took awhile to figure out how to get it to work well.
►After raising the ram, hold the press handle with light pressure so that the puller's handle can move the ram down until the collet grips the bullet wherever it's happiest. I find that I don't have to "lock down" the cam lever to pull bullets if I do this,and I don't mark up bullets nearly as often, and I'm pulling swaged brass jacketed bullets.
►The right striking surface changes everything when using a kinetic hammer. Dense steel that doesn't move (in my case a short chunk of railroad track) makes them work great. Even 55 gn .223 only take a few whacks. It just occurred to me that a thin plastic vial that fits loosely inside would contain everything cleanly for recovery. Some extra foam under it would cushion everything.
Excellent info, as usual! My 2 cents: Kinetic pullers - At the bottom, where the bullet lands after dislodging, is a piece of foam cushion material. Over time, this stuff wears from bullets striking it. When its pretty chewed up, the tip of the bullet may be somewhat distorted from striking the plastic 'floor' of the puller. If the bullet has a polymer tip (ELD-Match), the tip WILL be distorted. Sooo... Reuse those bullets, and blame the distorted tip for the 8 you shot!! Thanks for experimenting for our benefit! (I'm leaning toward the RCBS puller.)
just push a piece of eraser down there, not a scratch on polymer tip bullets either.
Gotta be honest, the suspense waiting for a new video is killin me
What about wrapping that with some paracord? I think that would be comfortable in the hand and really easy to do. You might also be able to put a little bit of duct tape or electrical tape in between the crimp portions to pull the bullets without damaging them. Just kind of what I think of when I look at that tool. But I agree all bullet puller suck I think the saying goes measure twice cut once goes for installing bullets correctly also. Unless the headspace is messed up which at that point you're screwed
So in all your experience, What bullet puller would you most recommend?
Thanks for the video.
I appreciate your channel.
I have found that a small needle nose vise grip works well for me. Once you get it adjusted correctly. It does mar up the bullets sometimes but can be used with a press by laying it on top and pulling down on the handle. I used it on 100 FMJ 30-06 bullets that I bought by mistake on line that could not be shot at my range. I was able to put a new soft tip bullet in them so they would not be a complete loss. I do not plan to use the FMJ bullets I took out. Just threw them away. May not work for most.
Great video. The RCBS Collet Bullet Puller is much better than the Hornady. Thicker Collet, no marks.
For cast boolits that go back to the melt, vise-grips work.
Could you do a shoot out with pulled bullets with the dings and dents in them to see if they will shoot a good group. It would be fun and not waste any bullets ... keep up the good work
Have you tried using a shell holder with the kinetic bullet puller rather than the collets that come with it? Much faster to operate...
I ordered one of these and was not happy with it for the pistol calibers. I'll stick with my Hornady Collet puller.
Rcbs pulled here. Down side is that you need a collet for each caliber, but I inertia pull for handgun.
Thanks for the feedback! Pulling pistol stuff is much more of a challenge. No doubt.
Totally laughed out loud at the "rub and tug".....
If they hinged the top it would probably work fine but as someone else said drilling the top hole out would also make a big difference.
Clear vinyl hose works great ,,,also flip it over makes it grip well too....
Great Review ! Perfect timing for me.....I am in the process of choosing reloading tools.
Hopefully the manufacturer will correct the problems.
Adding the "VICE GRIP" locking ability to the handle can help solve the bullet gripping problem.
Sorry if this question was already asked. TH-cam is giving most of the gun people strikes and time outs. Have you considered posting on Full 30? Really like your videos and would hate to see them go . Out of 5 stars, I give you a 10.
I have a question you or maybe another viewer could answer for me. I have some older maybe 15 years old IMR 4895 powder that I loaded up some 55gr hornady SP bullets with and it would not group at all. It looked like I shot the target with a shotgun. The powder looked and smelled fine. 23 to 25 grains in .5 increments. I loaded some 73 gr ELD-M with IMR 4064 and the groups were under an inch. Do you think the powder is bad or is 4895 just not accurate in a 223.
I bet it has more to do with the placement of the hole on the tool than anything. The mechanical leverage is all at the end. If it had .22/.224 and .30 at the end it would probably be "okay".
Good review, you may be could drill a bigger hole in the top off the tool and refine the top part with a belt sander, it should be easier to maneuver.
For the problem of the grip may be some grip tape for tennis racket could help?
Looking forward for the 224 walkyrie stuff 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.
Grip and pull on Amazon 48 bucks with shipping. Bull shit . Electricians pliers that snipe, strip, and crimp 20 bucks , best bullet pullers I ever used.
I hate my kinetic puller. I finally night the cam lock and love it, but I just reload for plinking ammo and cheap 300blk subs, so not a huge deal if it's accident a bit, though I've not had any scuffed really.
Newbie here I need help…soo I bought a new box of ammo, it’s Federal American Eagle .38 Special Soft point,…and I noticed that it looks like the bullet has a tiny flat on one side..like maby when the casing was crimped, the bullet itself got Grabbed, and there is a small flat on one side of the copper jacket? And on the other side there is a thin groove (Crimp mark) on the bullet right where the casing ends and the bullet begins.I figure the bullet is lead undernieth that copper jacket
Can i use this bullet at the range? Will it be safe in my 1873 Winchester
Which tool do you recommend to "neutralize" a "live" cartridge from WW2 (not so 'clean' like your ones... ;-/) ?
Thank you .
You need to try the rcbs collet bullet puller
The grip and pull works better then any other puller on the market. The only negative is when you have to pistol bullet on a turret or Progressive press . Good thing I still have my old single stage press . I still use my kinetic puller when I have one or two rounds to pull . The collet puller tear up the bullets or the case mouth or the bullets get stuck inside the collet
Wonder if some sections of garden hose cut down and slid over the handles wouldn't make the tool a bit more user friendly?
what about drilling out the hole for the fulcrum a little larger to make it easier to squeeze?
Looking at this tool, there are a couple of modifications that should be done by the manufacturer that might help a lot in it's actual function. First, there are no reasons I can think of to justify so much space between the various calibers. They should all be moved towards the fulcrum (30 caliber) to give you better mechanical advantage. Maybe it was made this way so strong men like you wouldn't collapse thin jacketed varmint bullets, but us older folks wouldn't have to make funny faces to use it.
Second, they could either make the fulcrum a little thinner but then you strong guys might just snap it. I might try just filing a small notch inside the fulcrum and see if it helps any. You might even try finding a short piece of sturdy plastic tubing to slip over the bullet and would allow you to use one of the larger caliber positions to pull your bullets. I've used the RCBS one a lot but it's expensive too. Specially with all the available collets if you need them. As you said, the kinetic one is about the only one that works with pistol calibers. But man, if you're pulling some of those military one's with sealers, you have to beat the crap out of it.At least they are usually pretty heavy and that helps with the kinetic puller. No, I'm not strong enough to crack them, mine looks like new after may years of occasional use.
Great idea in theory but it just doesn’t work well. Takes a lot of strength to grip and still damages bullets. Slips way too much and marks up the bullets. Loved the idea of it but it definitely needs some improvements.
Just a thought, with the amount of squeeze needed to pull the bullet, would it work better if the holes were inversed??
Well I didn't think u missed anything in RELOADING. I've had this for 2 years, great item. I haven't tried the 22 hole yet. It's easier than the one with the leaver on top. I put heat shrink on mine
I love stupid Johnny! He makes me LOL & pee in my pants! Keep all the goofs! I learn a lot from u. 👍👍👍 Thx bro.
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I'd just have a machinist buddy whip one up, it's an uber easy design to code or make manually
Glad to see a honest review of this product I've been contemplating buying one thanks for a honest review JRB and try not to blow your face off hahaha
Try gripping it with something like Irwin quick-grip one handed bar clamp.
I was looking at the rcbs puller and this. Would you recommend the RCBS?
Based on the design, couldn't you use a set of small vice grips and do the same thing? Would it not work the same?
Who made that thing...... Vise grip? lol
Weld some longer handles on it and it will work better I'm sure.
is there anyway you could rubberize where the bullets go for a better grip without closing the hole too much?
I pull bullets by hitting the primer with a nail... *Eye protection is key*
Logan Barnette You’ll shoot your eye out, kid! ;-)
Hahahaha
Brother JRB. Anxiously waiting on the most anticipated video on TH-cam, about the most anticipated round in the shooting community. When can we expext it so I stop checking my updates every 10 minutes for days? Thanks man. No pressure
man i was hopping this was the ansewer to everyones bullet pulling problem
its all about leverage . the futher away from the handle the more leverage on the projectile.
These dig into the projectile super hard.
Looking for a deer hunting load at 3000fps for the Valkyrie. I don't like the 90 gr they have, think it's to slow. Hope you can geter done.
How much more is the rub and tug model then?
Fredmullegun about 30$
I don't see this working on short cased (pistol) bullets that don't stick up through the die hole on your bullet press.
I could see secant ogive bullets being an issue too, where tangent might be a little easier.
I like my RCBS collet set..
Does it scare the bullets?
MrAwesome glock, I like mine as well. I don't get scared on the average. Like Johnny has stated, Pistol is a whole different thing.
Interesting device. Maybe it would help with some rubber in there to grip and not mar the bullets. And dip the handles
I'm happy with the cam lock, but with this tool, slip a section of silicone hose on each side of the handle, your hand will thank you.
They have an official video up that shows the pistol puller. Amazingly they used it on the first problematic load that came to my mind - a .45 ACP round nose. It does look properly seated at the start, so almost no bearing surface. Of course they could easily have had an oversized case, no crimp, etc, but does sound at least a little promising. Too bad the price is so high!
Good honest review
Thanks for this info. I've got some to pull, no rubbing :-)
Those marks are fine use a collet puller on a sealed case projectile it trashes them
Slip some garden hose on to the handles to try.
I like where your head's at, brother. Not a bad idea.
$50 !!!! They are insane. Ill just use my pliers.
How did you break a die? that might deserve its own video ;)
Stupid chintzy 22 cal Forster seating stems have bit me in the ass twice now. I'll have a full explanation once I finally finish these 224 Valkyrie videos!
So much for that guarantee for compressed loads!
Sounded like a great product, I was wrong. Had same issues. The pistol puller was worthless.
When I get a bullet that slips I turn the puller over and gently squeezy the puller. It will grip better but you need to be gentle or it will dent the bullet.
it's like $40, I've got a chunk of steel and a 5/16 drill bit, lets see if I can do better
I feel your pain....I do. Get some rougher texture masking tape and apply it to the inside.
Thanks for the clarification!!😂😂
How does the grip n pull work on lead bullets
jedidaddy76 Use a kinetic puller. Lead is too soft.