Compound Bow VS Recurve Bow! Which is better??
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- Compound Bow VS Recurve Bow! Which is better??
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Hi Lilly Besuchst du am Wochenende die "Hohe Jagd und Fischerei " Messe in Salzburg? Oder hälst du dort sogar einen Vortrag?
Cupid used a Recurve bow don't cha know ))
New recurve?
Thanks for the great videos! Here's a couple others you might like to watch for your own fun & ideas:
""Instant Legolas" - Archery Reinvented" by JoergSprave channel... (Joerg is among the most fun on the internet!)
Also a couple bug-out size folding bows that you might find interesting, each only 1kg:
"Awesome Folding Survival Bow! Primal Gear Unlimited's CFSB" by TWANGnBANG channel (also defends against watermelons!)
"SAS Tactical Survival Bow! Compact & Powerful" by TWANGnBANG channel (with integrated arrow storage)
Hey Lilly I think your recurve bow limbs are in the wrong order, the top limb in the video (the one with the mandarin duck logo on it) should actually be placed as the the bottom limb. I have the same bow after watching your vids! It’s great!
I started with a compound until I fired a recurve, after that I went strictly to recurve. Just feels so much more natural, especially when bow fishing.
there is an inherent aesthetic appeal to a recurve whereas shooting a compound is like shooting a mechano set creation
A Recurve Bow makes me feel more like Legolas from *Lord of the Rings*, so it's an easy choice 🧝🏻♂️
AaronMetallion easy peasy. Also:
Rangers Apprentice book
Idk when I see a recurve bow my mood lightens up compound bows make me feel of guns and stuff recurve just feels more natural
Hawkeye in the MCU also uses a recurve bow.
Exactly. I shot recurve when I was a kid and was really good at it. I don’t like the idea of a compound. It’s too automated. I like the technical challenge of a recurve bow. And I also like the fact that I’m still good at it.
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Getting into archery after this whole Corona lock down and am watching videos about it.
Best remark somewhere was to bring a tiny screw to the archery club and ask if anyone lost it.
See all the compound shooters panic.
Thanks for your video.
same, i had a bow growing up but after i left the scouts i stopped. this lockdown really kicked back that urge to get back into the woods to hunt and fish again.
You piece of shit 😂😂 but like invite?
@@aphrodite9675 and who are you?
Once we start up again, I gotta do this... Lol
Woah calm down satan
The recurve bow looks badass
rohitb
Legolas
it’s quite the opposite my friends
You mean compound
@@Sophie4-9 yeah, sadly it's a chinese made pos
One other benefit of the compound for hunting is the take off at full draw makes holding longer for the best shot much easier. It’s hard to be patient while holding against 50-70 pounds of force.
Letoff in exact term
These comments are useful 👍
Compound does have an advantage in hunting. If you hunt like me and most of my deer taken with stick and string has been under 30 yards , primarily under 20yrds. Compound bow can let you draw earlier and hold back until the deer is in that perfect sweet spot. Recurve bow you can't do that, you are pulling back X #s of energy and can only hold that for a few seconds.
I hunt with a 60lb Bear Kodiak that is 60", compound are way shorter, so if you hunt in a blind or heavy brush the longer recurve or even worst a longbows, can become more of a issue.
I have hunting with Compiond ( browning micro ) and recurves ( Bear and Martiuns ) and with the latter two I have passed up a lot of deer due to the shot was way out of my limits.
I feel a little silly at the range sometimes with my little recurve bow, so I’m relieved to hear they’re inherently more difficult to aim. Compound bows look more intense, so I assumed they were more difficult.
I was thinking the same thing about Compund Bows. lol
A compound is more technical. More components and more things that can go wrong. I’ve been shooting archery 32 years. While a traditional bow is quicker to aim, a compound is simply more forgiving and more deadly. Both fun to shoot, but I love by compounds when in the woods chasing game.
Compound bows are better for me cause there is a aim thing and it helps the arrow stay in place
@@aaliyahurioste3577 Peep sight?
@@davrizaheraveno6463 mo
Recurve because I'm an elf
Are you from the Scoia'tael?
I’m full blood orch, we like our recurve bows also
im the arrow
Quel'Thalas Blood Elf?
I use a compound. Im a orch hunter. Hunt elfs for sport. Orchs for selling body parts illegally. Yes im a orch poacher
Really concise breakdown of differences, gotta love the let off point of compound bows, realistically most people wont be accurate enough hunt with a recurve bow. Traditional is much funner to shoot! Most people here use compound you are 100% correct
Yes. the let off is a huge thing, especially when you need to hold full draw for an extended time. the learning curve Lilly mentioned also plays a significant roll in the decision making process for many (consciously or unconsciously) but in truth I think the real driving force behind most people's decision to go with a compound is marketing hype.
Canadian Prepper my first bow was a compound, easy
Later switched to a recurve
Hard but more fun
4 years later just bought a oneida tomcat x-80 which is a hybrid and i hope to buy a oneida krestel. Which is both worlds
Honestly theres so much more room for error on that bow then on the regular compound, (i let my father whos a avid gun man use it and he was on point)
And with me its just dead center every time. And then i added a sight....
Funner? That's not a word, "more fun" is correct.
Compounds are bad for prepping and SHTF no? Since wayyyy more maintenance?...
@@PJxpanterx it's a compound word. ... ...
Been shooting a bow my whole life, I started on recurve went on to compound now I’m back to recurve I’m 60 now.
SO If you were gonna buy one for shtf, which one is the better buy ? is one betterthan the other ? and are you strictly recurve now..... is that the one that makes sense. thoughts ? thx
@@crazywisdom2 Try to restring a compound bow when you don't have the tools on hand to do it..... Try to restring a recurve bow. I know which one i will choose for a SHTF. Peace and long life for you :)
Hunting I like compounds having fun and shooting targets I like recurves
@@crazywisdom2 commonsense tells me a rifle. After all bringing a bow no matter what kind would be like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
@@ldotred when you're. out of amo i can reuse my arrows.
I kinda want both
Right!
Im getting all 3 already have a really nice recurve bow just need to gèt the xbow i picked and the compound bow ive been looking at is 599pounds eeeek thats a lot of money saying that its a lot of bow
both are tough as hell .. recurve for fast action compound for more technical accuracy ..
me too have the takedown recurve for back up and the compound as main and it cool if you can use both
Well said. I have crossbows, compound bows, a recurve and a longbow, and my favourites to carry and shoot are definitely the latter two. I'm not very steady so I am more accurate shooting instinctive rather than with sights (I shoot my compound bows without sights too)
Compounds without sights seems crazy but cool
It's you, huge fan nice log cabin house.
It's you, huge fan nice log cabin house.
Can't you put a scope on compound?
@@allysaj6911 , And a saddle on a mule. Why bother? Do you own a mule and want to ride? LOL
I grew up with homemade recurve bows & my heart is still with them. However the compound bows are more powerful, more accurate, & you can hold your draw much much longer if the need requires, especially when hunting. However just to add a spanner in the works; a compound crossbow is the real killer when hunting, as long as you have the strength & stamina to carry the additional weight over long distances on foot, (I have a Barnett Predator).
In medieval warfare, the long bow was the preference on a battlefield, for it's rapidity of shot (about 10 - 12 flights per minute) & this was lethal & able to inflict horrendous losses upon an advancing enemy (arrow storms). However the crossbow had the edge when a defender had the time & could load & shoot behind a defensive wall, more accurate & slightly greater range.
It's horses for courses & I like all three. Regards to all JohnnyK.
PS. I love your video presentations Lilly, you know what you are talking about & that can be quite rare on uTube.
And now I suddenly want someone to design a compound ballista just for shits and giggles
Very good video! Would just like to add, that when shooting in the dead of winter, and, possibly snow on the ground, holding a draw for very long, can become an issue. I have the strength, but, am blood, muscle, and, bone . . no fat . . and so, getting cold quickly is a problem. I would then, rather have the lighter recurve. I've been shooting (archery), since I was a very young kid, so, I have the accuracy, and, I tend to lean toward the older fashion Recurve.
Recurve bow: Skill
Compound Bow: money eater
Recurve: You will smell damp.
Compound: Smell like roses.
That’s just ignorant, because if you want to be ethical when you hunt, and truly a skilled hunter. Both take a ridiculous amount of practice. Plus both can get very expensive, and can get inexpensive.
Slog IKR! I don’t like my compound bow but my recurve one is too old and shitty
I have a pse stinger I have shot it hundreds of times all its cost is a bit of rail lube and some string wax, yes I can only use carbon arrows but I use a drop away arrow rest so it doesn't destroy the fleatching and I fleatch my own arrows. I have owned the bow for over seven years now, I will re string it myself soon just for the sake of it but there is no visible string wear yet.
Compound bow = training wheels
I have no experience with bows, so this comparison was excellent for me. Thank you, and please, keep on doing these instructionals! You have a good way of teaching pros and cons.
Bob McElroy Very well said, I have no archery experience at all yet Lilly made it very understandable.
I almost decide to take compound...knowing that one is heavy..i take normal..because im beginner ..my arm will sore with compound..myb few shoot..but recurve i can shoot more n learn more
Hooked on every word from the beginning. It's so interesting to listen to someone who knows their chosen subject inside out. This has answered a question for me as I was considering a compound as a backup to my recurve, but Lily makes some valid points regarding; weight, transport and repairs or lack of repairs in the wilderness. 10/10. Thank you Lily.
A great video Lilly. Speaking as an archer who has been shooting for over 30 years I think your assessment of the two bows is spot on. I shoot a Horn tipped Medieval style Longbow, a Bear recurve, and a Bear compound as well as a Barnett compound crossbow.
I would like to add a few points:
A recurve can be fitted with kisser button (to ensure physical indication of anchor point, pin sights (other sights can also be used, but most are designed for compounds, thus may require modification to the sight or riser for a recurve), Mechanical releases can be used with a recurve bow, you can even set up a recurve bow with a peep sight.
A recurve bow is able to be modified to shoot more silently. None of the compound hunters I know have been able to make their bow as quiet as a well silenced recurve. I suppose it is just the nature of all the added mechanical parts, and higher string speed. (point recurve).
As you point out that in Austria you are not permitted to bow hunt, I suppose you may not have much experience with this next one, but when hunting deer, arrow speed is a factor. I personally, and a number of bow hunters I know have seen deer jump over our arrow when they hear the twang of the bow or perhaps the whistle of the fletches cutting through the air. So a faster arrow does have SOME advantage, especially on the longer shots. Likewise a faster compound will shoot flatter than a recurve taking some of the thought process of guessing at range, then adjusting the sight picture to compensate. while my recurve may have a difference of 6 inches between shots at two different ranges, my compound or crossbow may have only 2 inches. That can easily be the difference between heart/lung, and hitting low in the shoulder/torso. (point compound)
Compound bows where made in large part to allow one to hold longer at full draw the let off weight of my 65# compound allows me to hold it at full draw with only a couple fingers. Where as where as my 45# recurve requires full grip. It really only compares to an old 25# bow I have in terms of being able to hold at full draw all day without a release. (point compound)
This said, IN MY OPINION, a compound bow and a recurve bow BOTH have their place hunting. It depends largely on HOW you hunt. If you are hunting from a stand or blind as is common in the states, a compound bow has a number of advantages. If you are stalk hunting, roving, or just bring a bow along while you pack someplace, or if you have to really hike into your hunting area, a recurve STILL has so many advantages. For target shooting, it is truly just a matter of personal preference. I myself prefer traditional archery for target shooting, and bush camping, but for putting meat in the freezer, I rely primarily on my crossbow in 2 of our 3 deer seasons (not all states permit crossbow hunting, but as mine does, I use my crossbow in both archery and muzzleloading seasons)
Keep up the good work Lilly.
Matt Lewandowski you can get a bow pretty quiet with good accessories put on it. My compound is quieter than my recurve.
Just a few points ! :) good ones.
thank you oasis...technically I went to 4 points :) and thank you Lilly for the like, that means a lot to me:)
Martin, I am curious what you have done to silence each of the bow types.
I was about to speack about the energy delivery on the arrow ; witch you have done clearly here. More speed flater trajectory and so on.... with that being said Lilly video is excellent thanks you both for those clarifications. I Use a compound (a very old one), and was planing on buying a new bow. I still have somme thinking to do and explore the lever bow from Jeffrey Arnold over there. I will probably want to try and test a little bit those new (for me) bows before making my final decision. Thumb up Lilly
I like how you emphasized you shoot an old compound... I take mine hunting and I feel like I am the only person in the woods without parallel limb technology (even some of the crossbows out are using it now) massive asymmetric cams, and holographic trajectory projection sights (o.k. I am exaggerating that last bit of bow tech) :) my crossbow and my compound bow each have simple circular offset axle cams, traditional limbs, and sighting technologies that have been around 30+ years, and are still capable of bringing home the bacon (literally when I get to hunt hogs (which is the most common time that I will use my compound for hunting as they provide a "target rich environment"))
Compound bow for easy shot..
but recurve bow for a legend..
#Legends never die
Mr Pepperoni Pizza yes!
More like recurve for LARPing,
but compound if you don't want to starve to death
@@mrpepperonipizza3287 ...unless they're trying to hunt for food with a recurve bow.
that is not true my guy have you ever shot one in a contest
"I've taught archery for about 30 years now"
Says someone who doesn't look a day over 27 lol
13 not 30 haha
@@rancorusia That makes more sense 😂
3:58 ninja reaction
I've been studying German for four years now, and it puts a smile on my face when you call your backpack "your Rucksack", or say that things "make fun for you". Keep making quality content!
The rucksack got me smiling aswell :)
I'm a fan of recurves for a couple of reasons (as a target shooter): it's much more challanging to master control and perfect your aiming skills - hence a goal to strive towards and demanding your dedication to improve (compound does the job for you - point and shoot like an instamatic camera - easy). Secondly, the recurve is a work of art tool in it's simplicity of design and stucture, pleasant to the eye to behold (compound is sooo mechanical, complex, complicated - like a machine, IT does all the work for you). One is primative by nature - like fire, altho refined; the other is futuristic - modernized and hi tech-ed. YET, if I was a hunter.... my choice would be a compound. I would not want to increase the risk of wounding the animal and it running off to die a slow death. Compounds are obviousely more reliable for accuracy.
I just don't "get" compound bows, you're going to a bow that is a simpler but more challenging projectile weapon yet the pulley mechanism of compound bow is adding complexity to make it less of a challenge. Why did you go for a bow in the first place?
I especially like the idea of being very good with a re-curve bow that you've built yourself, that's such a great sense of self-reliance.
@@TreblaineSome people don’t have the luxury of firearms.
@@JesusIsGoodTruth I suppose, but I meant something like a crossbow rather than a firearm if you accepted more weight and complexity for greater velocity.
Compound bows seem to be for where you're legally limited to a bow by hunting regulations that allow bows but not crossbows.
Great input
From a prepping perspective... recurve no doubt.
Complexity = failure.
Prepping - learn to make bows from pvc pipe and paracord. That way you can easily make a new bow if you lose or break one.
Why not have both?
Graph Guy compound can actually chop through big animals and it's not as fragile at recurve because recurve is easily breakable and it not even powerful
@@die444luve you think a recurve is more fragile than a compound? A recurve is much smaller, lighter, and easier to maintain. A compound is awesomely powerful & accurate but you need a toolkit dedicated to it. For SHTF takedown recurve is probably where it's at.
@@die444luve Easily breakable? What are you doing with your recurves? Compounds explode a lot more frequently than recurves do.
Depends on the archer.
Hello Lilly, I started shooting a recurve in 1960, and got a 4 wheel compound in 1972.
Every thing from a English long bow to a Ten Point crossbow is part of my collection. I have found my way back home and only use traditional archery 4-5 times a week for the last few years. There is nothing as rewarding like making tight groups at 40 years with a recurve and no sights🎯.
“It makes a lot of fun”
:)
I love Lilly’s use of English.
Macht fiel spaß😝
It is cute. Love it
@@jenstahlberg686 viel* but yeah :)
Den lager mye gøy 😁
is it incorrect? ( i am still learning english)
As usual, you did an excellent job of outlining the pros and cons of your subject. I like this type of comparison, as it gives viewers the information to make their own decision. My cousin has a compound bow that he takes out for the bow hunting season (deer hunting here in Utah), exactly as you pointed out. I don't own a bow, but some of my favorite memories from high school P.E. are using recurve bows during the archery unit.
Thirty+ years later, as a Cub Scout leader at day camp, I tried shooting a recurve and my aim was pretty good! ;o)
Hi Lilly, fantastic presentation, well done.
I'm in Australia, Ive used and made many bows all my life. unfortunately I was recently diagnosed with MS and as a result of the MS I've lost a lot of strength in both of my arms. I can no longer manage a recurve bow of any useful poundage. Recently I purchased a compound bow that is adjustable from 19lb - 45lb. and this is very manageable. Its wonderful to be able to keep shooting and its not too heavy either.
I think its very important to reassure people of any ability , that archery is a wonderful sport for all abilities, from the very young to the very old, from the very week to the very strong
All good until you said you kill animals, then I went right off you.
Hi Lilly, I looked at both recurve and compound bows as I am a beginner and know very little about archery. To me the compound bow seemed very complicated and technical to set up with the pulleys and the way it is stringed . I decided on a recurve bow for the simplicity and find it is easy for me to assemble and to string it. I think I will learn and get used to the recurve bow first , after watching your video to me the recurve bow would be more reliable with less things to go wrong especially on a hunting trip .Thank you
"stick all the parts into my Ruksack" - wholesome
Is ruksack/rucksack a real English work? It's the English pronunciation of the Dutch rugzak, which is literally back-bag, which of course would be a nice English word as well.
@@martijnb5887 rugzak :-) I just love how the Dutch blend together English and German[1] - but on this one you guys missed that the English adapted the German "Rucksack" literally anyway.
[1]: Or is it the other way round and both English and German are actually both derived from Dutch ;-)
As someone who has been shooting bows (all types) for 48 years I can say you did a great job in this video.
Thanks, Lilly
I bought my first bow a week ago ..recurve bow costing $700...low draw weight as I’m a beginner at 76 years of age..target shooting in our yard at 20 yards presently..Tradtech riser and win and win limbs...best wishes to all.
Max
for gun guys,
recurve: AKM
compound: AR15
Personally, I think I'll go compound... I just like the finesse and the accuracy of it
RandomAssDude same
Cause you don’t like a challenge
@@MiggyBenz Life is hard enough. Why add onto it?
What happens when the string breaks? How do you plan to re-string a compound bow?
@@bread4228 Guy, do You have a car?
6 years later. What recurve bow is that?
Right?😂
I thought you gave a very thorough and sound comparison of the options. You did very well, Lilly.
30 years?!? You look like youre in your 20s
David Cartland thank you lol I'm 47
martyj I think he's talking about Lilly
Winter panapa dammit I thought it was too good to be true lol
I think she said 13
Marcus Cicero Now that youve said that , when I re-listen I cant tell if its 13 or 30 lol
I started bow hunting 37 years ago with a compound bow…still have it but only for targets now. I was surprised to see my compound bow doesn’t look a thing like yours. Totally a new design, very interesting the change. But always wanting a recurve bow…wasn’t able to get one until now. Watching your video is a help learning more about the recurve…just wanting to use it for targets.
Great channel, I shoot a lot of rifles but found this by chance. I really am interested in getting a re-curve bow thanks to you!
I like the recurve but only because I have used one for more than 50 yrs. Making one is as much fun as using one. I couldnt make a compound in a survival situation. Nice vid. Thank you
Steve Wentzell I agree 100%. Although I don’t think it would be possible to make a compound in survival situations. Technically it’s a machine due to using pulleys and leverage, so I wouldn’t know where to start in making it.
Have no money (recurve): *git gud*
Have lots of money (compound): _aimbot_
Sounds about right
Pay to win
Compounds aren't Instant-Legolas...
I prefer the recurve + Rifle combo. If I'm hunting big game I take the rifle. If I'm hunting small game, then recurve.
Agree with your points Lily but compound bow everytime, because recurve bows are simple - So I could just make a recurve from scratch should the need arise.
When bow hunting, mostly prey must come to you as walking on fallen leaves is far too noisy. range accuracy and power are everything.
Pee pee touchy time
A lot more goes into making even a decent recurve than people think
The price of a decent recurve is still usually reasonable enough to just have both. If you're going to be into archery, you might as well experience both schools.
Thanks! I've been considering what to start with since I first considered bow hunting. It's been a few years since I first began thinking about it. Delays in my life has kept me from learning to hunt, but now that I am in a mountain valley town, I am a little closer to my dream of self sufficiency. Thanks for the video, I now have more to think about.
I love The Sweet Spot of the compound bow when you pull it back all the way. I never was a big fan of the release trigger though.
they take getting used to, I started with a recurve, then changed to a compound, and have not looked back since
This is coming from someone who’s been shooting a recurve for years and a compound for a short amount of time... I get what your saying and I love both bows but the compound is so so much more accurate and would be superior in a survival situation.
Unless it malfunctions in a way
3:58 ultra instinct 🤣
Lmao
I'm Brazilian, but I love your channel. I do not miss a video, congratulations.
very nice - thank you :D
I was blessed to be raised with my half native grand parents, both were. And they got me a bow made as soon as I could hold one. I'm good enough with a Trad bow out to like 30 maybe 35 yards to hit close enough to kill game. But with my PSE Im nailing 3 in circles out to 60-70 yards. That's the difference really, speed and precision.
Recurve and longbow are king, nothing beats the natural feel of a wooden bow in your hands. Each shot feels smooth and satisfying.
Crossbow is the deadliest of the three but the most loud of the three. But not as loud as a firearm tho.
Thank you so much for the great breakdown. I was leaning toward recurve; but if I want to hunt, I think compound would be the right choice, as the learning curve is faster and more accurate. 😉🙏🏼🇨🇦
I think you did a good job. I’ve hunted many years with a compound and also a crossbow. The weight never bothered me of either weapon. I recently decided to learn to shoot and hunt with a recurve . What a big challenge and really fun. The recurve is really light. Amazing. So I hope to build my confidence so I can make a good shot on a deer. I can go for months without shooting my compound and hit the bullseye consistently after 4 or 5 shots. I seem to have to shoot my recurve at least weekly. The challenge is immense but satisfying. Craig
I'm looking to build what I'm calling a "double recurve" crossbow for a secondary survival weapon. It uses a compound shaped bow, as well as a secondary leaf spring up front to provide additional recurve pressure. I expect the weight may be rather heavy, but nothing a stirrup can't handle.
I've recently taken up flint-knapping as well, to learn how to scratch-make arrow heads from glass and stone. My overall goal is to use this as a means of stretching out my rifle ammo stock, but still have a weapon that's just as lethal at range. Desperate times, right?
Re-curve is definitely better for survival .
Better for survival? NO WAY! If you want to eat, you have to be able to kill it first and using a compound bow with sights is, without a doubt, the way to go. Think about this, can the average person shoot, the first shot ( because that is all you get) with a recurve accurately enough at 20 yards and beyond, to hit what they are shooting, I would not bet my life on it, how about yours? Thank you www.verticalcrossbow.com is what I would want for a "Survival Bow", if my like depended on it!
@@kohunting you know why "traditional" bow survived for millenia? simplicity of use, easy to repair/restring cheap to make. i like compounds, i have two, but for long term SHTF out there? recurve for me all the way.
@@ApocGuy Yea but for the average person, they would starve to death before they could hit anything, like a squirrel or a rabbit. Repairing a recurve or compound is not the issue if you are dead. lol The Draw-Loc Survival Bow would be the Ultimate for surviving in the wilderness.
@@kohunting average person with no prior knowledge of bow shooting wont hit anything with compound either. i do agree, that its more user friendly and better suited for hunt.
Very fair assessment of both bow types . Very informative and helpful.
I think compound bow is just boring version of bow. I think it's great hunting tool though, crossbow especially.
Haven’t shot a bow since I was a kid but youtube algorithm brought me this and it was enjoyable. My favorite part was half way through the video, it looks like this Lily lady died a little inside the first time she says “the point goes to the compound bow 😂 definitely want to see more content #subscribed
Interesting and good video thanks for sharing!
My grandfather use to bow and arrow(Archery) when he was living etc when I was around him growing up as a little girl for a small time. I would use it for target practice and a hobby only not for hunting anything tho.
I have both, but i threw a D loop on my recurve and use a trigger release, find it helps a lot with accuracy.
With some recurve bows you can even put an arror shelf on them
Nice video. For years I've wanted a compound bow, but I've been looking at a few recurves the last few days and I really like the simplicity of them.
I think I'm going to start with a recurve, and then get a compound later down the line.
If you are out hunting, and you are spending several days in the wild, maybe hiking through wild nature, and you use use bushes and trees to hide, don't bring a compound. From experience, they are too technically advanced for hunting in heavy terrain. Reliability is the most important aspect. Because a shot that is taken is always better than a shot that couldn't be made due to a twig getting caught in your compound gears... Also compounds are fragile and needs to be protected while you are hiking/climbing/or jumping stones through a stream. A recurve take down you can stick into your backpack and climb a mountain if you want to, you can fall on it, and it wont brake. It's care free, and it just works, all the time.
The same rule as for normal camping or hiking apply. Simple, sturdy solutions are always the best. Reliability is everything.
If you ripped off the limb on the compound, you'd have a whole lot of laminated fiberglass in your face...
Of the two I prefer recurve (I'm much faster with it), though I prefer more traditional wooden bows, such as the longbow over both.
Devin M. You can buy recurve wooden
Devin M. Same with me. I use native bow
Here is the thing about the different bows . You can get speeds over 300 fps with very little effort and no finger pain with the compound bow . Because the arrows are going faster with less effort the arrow goes in a straighter line for a longer distance This means with only 1 pin the arrow will hit the 12 inch target from 10 yards out to 50 yards by just placing the pin at the top of the target to the bottom . The other big difference is like she said because the compound bow has cams you can have a 50 pound bow and only be holding 10 pounds at full draw length . If you had a recurve with only 10 pounds the arrow would only go a few yards and have very little energy . It hard for grown men to hold back 50 pounds for very long vs holding 10 pounds back for 10 minutes if you had to and ending up with the same fpe as the 50 recurve.
I would not worry at all about what bow is going to break . I have had both compound and recurves that has lasted 50 years . In this time in history you can now get a compound bow that as a let off even with a 5 to 10 pound compound bow and draw length from 10 inch to 24 inches , a whisker biscuit that holds the arrow in place even if the bow is turned up side down.
This means that even at the age of 3 you can get the kids shooting without having to worry about shoulder or joint injuries . The easier the bow is on a kid or a adults finger and arms muscles the longer you will want to shoot without getting tired or finger pain. The longer you can shoot the more arrows you can pull back and let go ,so you can get pretty good in a short amount of time . When the string is easy to hold back the new shooter can line the pin up to the target and hold it on the target and let the string go when they are ready . You can't do that with a recurve . This is why I say start off with the compound bow .
Once you have a few years under your belt and you have your muscles built up and you have learned how to hold the bow , how to aim and release and you want to venture into something a little more challenging then get a long bow or recurve bow . Yes the pain on your finger will a lot worse and if you have a 30 pound bow at full draw you will be holding 30 pounds on your fingers . To help eliminate the finger pain you make yourself pull back the string put the arrow tip where you want it and let go as fast as you can .
Yes its going to take longer before you can start getting tight groups but its a lot more of a fun factor to know you are shooting like people did 2.6 million years . Its just a fact that people that shoot a long bow or recurve bows have the most fun at the 3Dshoots.
The compound shooter take to long to shoot . They first have to look through their binoculars for a good 5 minutes , twist their feet just right in the ground take a couple deep breaths of air then decide to load the arrow that took them another 5 minutes to pick their lucky arrow out of the 50 they brought with them .
Just when you think they are going to load the arrow and shoot so the other 100 shooters waiting in line behind them can have their turn to shoot but oh no they are just getting warmed up .Their next step is to twist and turn on their sight pin for another 5 minutes . Then its back to the binoculars because they forgot what they saw 10 minutes ago .
Okay now they have to be really to shoot you say to your friends waiting patiently WRONG again . as your standing there with your traditional group you notice all the compound shooters all have baby strollers filled with coolers filled with ice and cold drink and snacks a fan attached next to the attached unbrella , foldable recliners with the feet rests and the coffee cup holder and they are all leaning back drinking their coffee without a care in the world that everyone else is standing in the sun for the last hour waiting for 4 people to shoot one arrow each .
After a few more back and forth's of the bino and clicking of the pins they finely pull back and you think thank you God but Wrong again . They let down their bow after they pin gap to get a more accurate reading they go back to the twisting and turning and finely let the arrow go . This ritual is done by the other 5 or 6 people in the group . After they all shoot they walk up to the target and stand there for another 5 minutes sometimes longer on their hands and knees with a magnifying glass out trying to prove to the others they cut the line . This can sometimes turn to blows .
This is why Traditional shooter don't like to go to 3d shoots where compounds shooter are allowed to shoot . Now compare that to a traditional group of shooters . Your group can have kids of all ages mothers pushing the strollers with newborns. and fathers with newborns in their child back pack . You put your foot on the stake you load your arrow and within 2 seconds the arrow is in the target . You go up to the target score it and pull out the arrows and move to the next target . A group of up to 10 people can be in and out out of a target in less than 5 minutes and that's with all the kids running up to the target to see where they hit .
Traditional shooters have a lot more fun at 3d matches . Most traditional shoots have a pig spinning over the grill with all kinds of home made food and lots of desserts . After you shoot half the course you stop and have a lunch break and you get to eat all that good food you have been smelling all morning before you head out to the other half of the shoot .
In most cases the shoots have shooting games set up for the kids like balloon busting targets swinging targets and targets sliding down a rope . Its really a family friendly group of archers that once you get to know are friends for life .
I like to shoot in matches with both bows . If I feel I need to practice with the compound bow I'll take it to the shoot and try to get in a group with the patents and the kids where its more laid back vs the hard core shooters ,but there are times I want to see how I compare to the best shooters on the course . Then there are times I want to take my longbow and have a fun filled day of shooting . That's not saying you can't be competitive with a longbow or recurve because they are shooters out there that can hit the 10 ring every time .
I would say this to sum it up , get all 3 types of bows , longbow recurve and compound bow and shoot them all and just have fun shooting with what ever bow you have in your hands .
I'd love to get a recurve bow.
I have a 65# draw weight compound bow, and I use my fingers to draw it back ... The way I learned... No mechanical release.
Compounds are not meant to pulled with fingers. They are meant to be used with a release.
@@701garage I've never used a release ccx with any of my compounds. Always used my fingers. It's how I was taught & learned.
Practice makes perfect 👌🏼 I love my recurve bow
Thanks Lily that was a lot of great information 👍 I shoot a self made long bow that I made using Osage orange.. it's 48 pounds and I really enjoy shooting it .. I agree it's so simple and light.. it only weighs 1 pound 2 ounces USA ... Be safe , I always enjoy your videos ..✌️
I'm a rifle hunter getting into archery. I just bought a recurve to start, though I plan on having both before too long! I really wanted to start with a radically new experience that emphasizes the need for good form, and allowing me to focus on learning the basics before introducing a slew of complexity in the tooling itself. I would love to get to the point where I am comfortable with my precision to hunt with a bow, but for now I have my trusty .308.
Lilly, loving your videos! I am jealous of the walk through course I saw you on.
Most people won't have the skills to use a recurve to hunt. It takes a lot of practice and dedication. The compound is more complicated, but repairs can be done in the field with a portable bow press. With a little effort you can learn how to replace strings and cables on a compound.
I haven't shot a bow in at least 40 years. I found your channel while searching for archery vids.
Really enjoy your content.
Very much appreciated your vid on the Samik Sage bow. !
Thank you.
compound because it's truly amazing to be a starling city vigilante 😂
Queen used a lever bow I thought. More of a hybrid
Oliver’s bow was a hybrid compound lol
@@farisebiede5392 Hybrid compound isn't really a term you'll hear used, it's usually referred to as a lever bow. His was an Oneida Kestrel
That was like season 1. Oliver uses a recurve bow now
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us😊 By the way, your location looks so beautiful!
Traditional archers in a nutshell: Recurve peasants, get a longbow!
Laughs in 71 inch English longbow
@@bread4228 drat I've been outdone
See you at Agincourt fine sir
Thank you for this video, it is a very a very intelligent and balanced review of both bow's advantages. I'd like to add that physical strength is a very important factor if you plan to use a bow for hunting game. A good recurve bow for taking down big game could have a draw weight of 60lbs (27kg). If you don't have the physical strength to draw and hold that weight then you'll never hit your target in the first place. The compound bow makes drawing these weights far easier for people with a lower level of training. If you love sport then go for a recurve; if you love results then go for a compound.
as a primitive bowyer/arrowsmith/archer, i can tell you both bows that recurve, and compound have their pros, and cons, which you've adequately stated. however one type of modern bow you should try some time, which is a hybrid of both, a lever bow, which i personally prefer. it has all the advantages of a compound, with the simple to restring albeit unnecessary ability of a recurve. your' platform is survival, so in any survival reality with a modern bow, with dacron strings, and glass limbs, takedown is good, but carrying that bow in a pack or on a strap of which there is many options hunters have, i think is a consideration. my personal choice is a primitive osage, or vine maple flatbow. most primitive archers have the setup ability to carry on the quiver, with extra strings etc. very light weight which you mention.
i was just about to comment about the onida phoenix, in a survival situation i'm not sure it would win out over something easy to maintain but it has a lot of the positives of a compound and omits a few negatives. That being said most of the time survival is hypothetical and in my eyes and there is more satisfaction to shooting a simple bow well than a complicated setup that does a lot for you
my lever bow is an oneida eagle.
i'm no archer by any means but i was lucky enough to try a phoenix about a year ago. full on wish list thing. like the idea of a compound but i love finger shooting so yea i'm with you on lever action bows
beauty of the oneida, you can tie a string loop, then you have option to draw either way. finger release seems popular with bow fishermen. makes it great for just in case you forget, or damage your wrist release. you can still hunt. oneida is worth every penny, require less frequent intense maint. but die hard cam bow hunters will debate me on it, usually without having released a single arrow from one.
Jeffery what state are you getting your vine maple for the flatbows you build?
I live in Canada and watched to the end...I've only ever shot compound becasue...I'm in Canada, but I ordered a basic 40lb recurve and now I'm excited to try it. Thanks for making this it's very informative 👍🏽👍🏽
Your comments were spot on. Did you mention a compound bow shoots the arrows MUCH faster? Just saying.
Like over 300 feet per second with a 450gr arrow. Now I want to see a recuve shoot half that speed. Animals will jump my arrow and its double the speed of your arrow. Maybe thats why you use recurve so they jump an dozen they land again then the arrow hit them.
@@701garage lol... A lot of people hunt bears and deers with recurve bows. Maybe u just sucks.
Compound bows are also more powerful, because of the pulleys it transfers the energy more efficiently and provide significant (like >80%) left off.
They are more powerful and easier to use but a lot more complex and harder to maintain. For a survival and prepper situation i would go with a recurve or at least have a recurve as a backup
@@firefoxjb they definitely are not hard to maintain and most of the time nothing goes wrong with them. Its the same as a recurve wax string when string get bad replace it. They almost never lose timing and don't dry fire the bow and you have nothing to worry about.
@@701garage i don't need a dedicated tool kit and special tools to work on my recurve bow. I've seen and handled too many compound bows that had more time spent being worked on than used. From a prepping perspective a recurve can be more reliable due to it's build and simplicity.
@@firefoxjb you need one tool to compress the bow that it. It small and portable in a side pocket or a fannypack which i carry when I'm out elk hunting not that big of deal weighs about a pound.
Drawing on a recurve bow just makes me giddy. As a little boy I used to make bows out of sticks and string but gave all that up when I moved to the big city. I'm now getting back into it
"Into my Rucksack" 😂
In keeping with my philosophy KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) I am just starting out with a Take Down Longbow, mainly because it fits in my backpack so can be transported everywhere and very little can go wrong with it though I fully agree with all the points stated regarding a compound bow in a survival situation I would not want to be carrying a bag full of spare cams etc. Perfect scenario would be one of each but being a wimp I could not manage the weight!!!
Trev Nowlan "stupid simple"*
i used to shoot archery with compounds and ive never had anything worse than a slipped string, cams and limbs dont wear out, at least not in your lifetime, and they are simple enough to restring, maybe just need a tool if your using an 80 pound draw
Canadian here. Recurve is my preference. Why? Because there’s a lot less things that can go wrong with it. And as you said it’s a lot less weight to be packing around in the field. I can put a spare bow string in my pack and be ready should I need to replace it in the bush.
Out side of a tree stand a compound is of limited use. There are to many things that want to tangle in your pulleys and cables going through thick brush. God for bid it falls over or gets dropped and damages something. You must keep your eye on the compound to be sure you haven’t damaged it.
A recurve or a long bow is a lot more forgiving. The sights you seem to like on that compound can be mounted on your recurve. The trigger release can be used with the recurve to. Which gives you the two most useful bits from the compound with out any of the troublesome stuff.
If a tree stand is your destination then yes consider a compound. If your an active hunter who likes to stalk and track, then a recurve imo is the better choice.
11:13 i can shoot recurve on 90m distance with 8/10 accuracy in same sized circle. And if you practice like 500 shoots a day for 3 weeks , you will get good release like all time
What draw weight recurve are you shooting accurately at 90m with? Are you using an aiming system?
Just started with the recurve bow, thanks for pointing towards the release needing consistency, just got to put in the practice.
I am a female hunter and this video was helpful. Thank you for posting. I love the look of a recurve bow.
You are a female hunter ?
Of what species ?
Sorry, I love your videos but I have to disagree with you here on a few points. One, you say that you are more accurate with a compound bow because of sites. Well you can place sites on a recurve as well, very easily in fact. Two, you say that the release is more accurate with a release aid on a compound, well, again, I shoot with a release on my take-down recurve. In fact, the style you shoot is traditional (no sites, no release) but target or olympic style recurve use release and sites as well as stabilizers. Compounds are easier to shoot because of the drop-off in what you are holding but recurve is every bit as accurate. I do agree with your choice of staying with recurve though, simplicity in design, ease of repaire in the field (you can replace a limb or string very easily) etc... Keep up the good work, I do enjoy your vids :)
I completely agree, I am switching to a release and sight on my recurve bow now as well. but still a compound bow is easier to aim with because of the drop off you mentioned, so because of that feature the compound bow can be shot with more accuracy
By the way, I am shooting a Spyder XL 64 in: www.southwestarcheryusa.com/collections/recurve-bows-1/products/southwest-archery-spyder-xl-64-takedown-recurve-bow-parent
Thanks for the video! I'm definitely leaning towards starting with recurve because I want to "feel" the bow and learn the "hard" way
Both are good to have,but for a true survival situation the Recurve would be the way to go.
michael skala compound is more accurate tho
I have a pse stinger its a great bow but I agree recurve more practical for survival
I noticed your limbs of your recurve should be swapped, you have the bottom one on the top ( the one with the mandarin duck logo). Where the limbs are fitted to the riser there are stickers stating the poundage and orientation of the limbs. I have the same Recurve bow after watching your review video on it and it’s great!
I plan to start and i choose recurve, and out of all the reasons their could be. My main reason is less material, more simple which means less accidents. I’ve heard stories of compound bows string break or something and well that hurts
Great video Lilly as usual. They both have their place. What's not to like in the recurve bow it's just cool...c'mon the Hunger Games! But I like the compound bow personally. What about distance (FPS)? I'm new in archery so I'm not sure if they're the same when it comes to FPS and distance. I'd like to see more videos on arrow tips and techniques with the bow.
Compound bows are more powerful for the same draw weight as a recurve
Also if you break anything from a compound bow you need to send it to someone who has the right tools to fix it. While the recurve bow can be emergency fixed if needed and can also try to fix it yourself, taking on account the ease of dismantling of the recurve bow.
in a zombie apocalypse you might want a compound if you’re in the city but if you’re more in the wilderness then you’d probably want a recurve
I'm more inclined to a samurai sword for a zombie apocalypse 😉
Bob L. i don’t think that’s a good idea but props
@@lylici8696 I was thinking of mainly the short range against zombies. One swipe - head gone. Maybe backup a good machete or parang. I personally would avoid compound a choice because once the string has gone you can't restring it and it's less use than a wet paper bag to bash zombie heads in. I'd consider a decent slingshot as a backup ranged weapon - ammo for that everywhere.
I know, perfect weapon for range is a semi-automatic but got to consider that in places like Britain once you used up your ammo you're lugging a badly shaped and heavy club. After which point you're screwed
I don't understand why is it illegal to bow hunt in Austria, and much of Europe?
Dey got no rights. I need mah bazuka boi
Nerd girl who likes being outdoors and survival topics. No wonder my heart is pounding.
Hunting with a bow in Europe is legally in the Åland Islands, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Portugal, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain and Turkey.
Postapokaliptycznie PRZEZ ŚWIAT stopped hunting with a bow in England a very very long time ago . probably something to do with poaching .
@@davidharrison6615 Is it more to do with inhumane (ie slow) killings? Maybe an FAC air rifle is just as quiet but more accurate and powerful. Or...we didn't need to go hunting anymore because of Sainsbury's et al!!!
Very nice topic and well presented. You did well with this review. Cheers.
I'm going recurve. I feel learning the elements and fundamentals of recurve Bow will set you up in advance when ready to make the transition into compound if you go that route.
So, recurve is simpeler to repair, it's lighter, it's simpeler. That actually completely changed my mind about what I should get.
What she says is more for a woman's perspective as a man you should get a compound bow. You want something with power and accuracy a recurve bow is about one step up from throwing a spear. She said she only shot it three times if you want to get good fast go with the compound go to an archery shop where you can try both
@@edbuckley1670 You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
But I will bite...
Qing or Manchurian recurves bows when shooting heavy arrows have an efficiency of over 80% at heavier draws(80 pounds+)
Most compounds have an efficiency between 75%-80%(85% with expensive top of the line compounds) with light arrows and lose efficiency as the arrow weight increases causing more limb flex/vibration.
Hence if power is what you want Recurves are actually better.
Considering a 50 pound recurve is sufficient to kill bears and get arrow pass through on deer and even larger animals like moose, the only reason to go compound would be to penetrate armour.
So I guess if you expect in your survival situation to be facing knights in plate armour it MAY work... that said I don't even know if a 100 pound compound could penetrate plate when a 180 pound longbow cannot.
@@givemeanameman1 I have been hunting with a compound bow for over 20 years. Just a 50 lb draw weight I get pass throughs on blackbear elk and whitetail deer. My kids and wife shoot for Sport with recurve bows. How often do you see people shooting War bows with 180 lb draw weights. As somebody who has shot both a lot of times I take animals down at 60 yards or more sometimes. I have found the arrow moves to slowly at long distances with a recurve bow and animals like whitetail deer will react before the arrow gets there sometimes from the sound of the release of the arrow. So in my personal experience I do not like to hunt with a recurve bow unless maybe I'm going to shoot an animal closer than 20 yards however in my experience a compound bow is a better tool for the job I guess I did not take into consideration top of the line recurve bow manufacturers with the strongest draw weights possible might be comparable to a compound bow although sitewise I think you would be hard-pressed to be as accurate as a compound bow with sights that are cited in. I do shoot in local archery competitions where I live and I smoke people with recurve bows with a simple Hoyt PowerMax a hunting bow not even I Target bow. You seem biased in your description I still stand by my statement. If you are hunting for food you need to survive or possibly have a bow for protection then a compound bow is still a better option if you are just shooting with your wife or kids in the backyard for fun 20 yard shots it might be more worth it to have a recurve. so the guys out there who go grizzly bear hunting with a recurve bow and no sidearm I agree they deserve their man card for giant balls I probably would not try that.
@@edbuckley1670 20 years experience and 20 years of learning nothing.
I stated compounds are better for ambush hunting.
Anyone using thumb ring and outside bow arrow placement can shoot easily 2 arrows before you shoot one with a compound.
People can move with a recurve and still shoot, a compound bow with peep sights or pins is not accurate if your walking/running.
Make a thumb ring for your wife and daughter, after a few hours using Eastern style draw they will beable to go from just holding their bow to drawing a n arrow from a hip quiver and shooting in a few seconds while moving.
Now try it with your compound.
Compounds only have one thing that make them superior to most other bows
Arrow Speed.
Any other bow design with a shelf can use all the same aiming aids and be just as accurate.
Are you going hunting or backyard shooting?
I'd choose compound for hunting and get humane shots.
I realy enjoy your videos! You are amazing xxx
I grew up shooting a straight limb bow at age 7 or 8 years old. I then went to a 45-pound recurve Bear made bow for deer hunting, then I went to a Whitetail Hunter compound bow for deer hunting years later when the compound bows came out. I liked the recurve bow, but the compound bow is the way to go. It shoots an arrow fast and accurately. I had a deer jump up over an arrow that I shot at him at about 25 yards. He would not have done that if I had the compound bow.