PIMO No More: Confessing Christ Before Men!
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There's no way I could go around preaching their false gospel ever again... even if it did reconnect me with family... truth is important.
So true Alfred. The thought of it gives me the willies. Truly, it would be "touching the unclean thing."
You are confessing the Christ through your website and through the meetings and in other ways. That is what counts.
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I wrote all my friends and family explaining my actions and what I found through research and sent a copy of the resignation letter......I was immediately cut off. It was hard but my conscience is clear. Thank you for the encouraging videos you provide.
Bless you sister
I'm so happy for you sister keep learning Jehovah through Jesus Christ will bless you spiritually
I've done the same thing recently. It hurts but I know this was the right thing
Thank you. Your videos are always so helpful. I have been "PIMO" for about 8-9 months, although I have not returned to in-person meetings and I have not participated in service because, I cannot in good conscience direct anyone to the organization now. I thought I would try to fade because my family is still under the delusion. You made some very good points about being PIMO. Even though I don't pretend to support the organization, my gut tells me this plan of invisibility is not healthy or sustainable. I am subtly dropping crumbs for my family, but you helped me see I need to set an actual goal. I need courage to stand up for the truth, to expose the corruption, to be willing to be an outcast, ruin my reputation, lose the respect of everyone I know. I have lived under spell and a web of lies my entire life and I am grateful to have snapped out of it. I want to share the freedom with others.
I am an outcast.a few jw's would send me letters but no calls,during the lock down it was like they were writing to someone they never knew then when I wrote them back they didn't respond and there are other strange things. For the last two years I've been praying to Jehovah and his son for true worshippers although I count on Jehovah God and his son Jesus .then I come across one of your videos then I started watching more.it's great attending the Sunday zoom meetings and listening to all of your comments I especially loved the prayer breakout room. So give me a little time to get use to all I'm nervous around new people .
It is so good to have you with us, Rick. Keep coming, because the brothers and sisters love one another and only want to encourage.
So proud of you Rick. Keep pursuing your relationship with God and Christ. You will never regret it no matter the cost. I really enjoy the passage in Heb.13:1-16. Hope it encourages you too. I disassociated in 2020 after 40 years with WT. It can be done, and done successfully when you are ready. God bless you.
@@ckelly5141 thank you, I did also God bless you
@@BeroeanPickets thank you so much. I really appreciate it
The way I spot the deceit of the WT is by them evading questions from their sources.
Please read John 1:1 and Colossians 1 without the WT input. See how it reads when the WT aren't telling you what to think.
Thankyou so much Eric for your videos. I really love listening to them.They make me feel happier.
Happy to hear that!
@BeroeanPickets my heart is full of love as I get to know Jesus better, thanks to you and others. Love and respect to you Eric and thank you ❤
Proverbs 29:25 "The fear of man is a snare...."
I started speaking out , recently I had a message from one if the elders to say he had concerns , when I responded and asked him what his concerns were he refused to tell me and made me wait one week to give me a zoom call with another elder ,
when they questioned me to ask about what I had been saying , I asked them what was being said and who said those things , they refused to tell me , so I told them I would refuse to answer their questions and told them that I felt it was unloving t o make me wait a week to talk to me and be straight with me .... to be continued , I'm almost certain . thank you Eric, may Jehovah bless your work in teaching about him with the Bible and truth 🙏🏼
Great Job, Simon!
The process is a challenge. But once you walk away you will feel like you just walked out of a dark room into the light
I appreciated this video...the comments on living a double life spoke to me and where I had been. I was pretending to attend meetings ( zoom ) and I even turned in time ( time I spent telling others the JW were a false religion ) I was going to just try to fade out...if I could have moved somewhere, that would have been easy enough, but my best friend here was a pioneer and was always concerned about other sisters getting in service and to meetings...I didn't want to be false to her--and make a pretense when her Bible Study wasn't responding in a way she should hope. I had made up my mind I couldn't just fade out because I would be checked on and I wasn't going to be making up stories....so I told her that I no longer believed the witnesses had the truth and if she felt the need to report that, to let me know and I would take care of it. She said, it would be my decision...but I had already decided before I told her for I knew she wouldn't be able to keep quiet. I wanted to tell her because I didn't want to write out my notice to the elders and have her hear it from the platform...and it allowed me to explain things to her and hopefully someday she will wake up! I wrote to the elders asking them not to call me, but they did anyway...I was curious as to what they might say, so I talked with them...no Scriptures were read...a retired CO was among the 3...He literally lied on at least 2 ocassions. One was telling me I had information that had been falsified by apostates...that he had read the correct information..so I said to him to inform me where the correct information was and I would look it up ( the 1954 Walsh trial -which still applies today)He said: no, you are the one who brought it up. NOw wouldn't you think that if someone really cared and knew you had misinformation, they would be happy to tell you? I had been in judicial meetings before where the elders were the manipulators and the liars...I told a CO about that and his ears turned red! ( I want to say, it is worse for a woman---THERE IS A BOYS CLUB
Best wishes in your new journey!!
Hugs!
Agreed. Women have a harder time of it in the Org. It is a patriarchy.
We support your decision,however jws give wtbts and the elders ,too much power over there LIVES ,if pomo would just READ THE BIBLE IN CONTEXT ,pomo would see they, the elders have no power at all ,you were lied to and trick into the org in the first place by them using PSYCHOLOGY, so you owe them NO EXPLANATION AT ALL ,WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR SPIRITUALITY,so good fortunes i hope it work out for you ,for the best. 1 cor 11:3 and Isaiah 48:17-18
To all PIMO’s listen to his words. My husband and I left last year. YOU WILL NOT regret it!!
In fact as time passes you continue to learn all the more that you were in chains and NOT a free Christian.
Trying to help a witness is so so hard.
It's because they have been programmed. They're taught how to react, shut down when anything negative is said about organization.
It's impossible until the JW individual decides they've had enough... And starts to look ... at facts... I should also add, I have found that most witnesses I've talked to disagree with something the governing body has taught or done... that leaves the ex-witness with a effective question; if it's Jah's organisation how can you disagree? "Oh, it just imperfect men..." they will say. Try to nicely explain to them that they are going against Jah and could be PUNISHED if they speak out. They will divert by changing the subject, and even act exasperated, but reel them back in and ask; why would You submit YOURSELF to possible Punishment from imperfect men?
so true , I've tried to talk to my family and some old friends , they get scared and sometimes very angry . I hope you keep strong
Yes, it’s not easy for me. I helped my husband wake up but I wasn’t direct explained my thoughts because if I did I knew he would shutdown and question me instead of looking at himself WT thoughts. So what I did was use his same negative comments like the use of beard, birthdays… when I saw he was low I asked him to explain to me the 1914 JW theory. Asked him questions and subliminally took him to compare with history but it wasn’t a 1 day or 1 hr conversation. It took months before he woke up. So I am doing the same with my sister- see if the strategy works.
Be safe everyone!
Hugs!!
I know ,JUST plant seeds of bible truths ,thats contrary to there beliefs and PRAY FOR THEM, Remember Just one Seed at a time per setting ,NOT TO MUCH or you will overwhelm them ,matt 13:31-32
Thank you!! The Bible is very clear when it says get out of babilon, amazing when one wakes up and realizes, I was part of the false religion. 😢
Your videos are very helpful and I am grateful to u.
It would be fascinating to know how many JW’s have left the org. since the spring of 2020. Also, I think that the changes in the last 2 years have allowed for the growth of the body of Christ. It is heartwarming to know that God knows who belong to Him and will bring these ones to his Son for salvation.
Amen to that c Kelly.
Amen and Amen 🙏🏻
A lot of us. Valerie and I woke up August of last year.
They’re pretty narcissistic and cruel to blackmail members and their families!
Thank you for your video’s, Matt. 10:32-39 is easy to read but so painful & devastating when it happens! Having fellow friends who have left this organization does bring comfort!
Quite right, and you'll find a number of them here: beroeans.net/events/
My Sister, and her Husband, (both devout JW`s.) came from Ohio, last week and visited me a little while. I tried to bring up the subject of the conditions in the Organization. They just looked at the ground and became quiet. So, i dropped the subject. I`m sure that If I had continued to press the subject, they would have left. I tried once before years ago to talk to my sister. She made the statemen that just talking to me was compromising her faith.
WOW...JWS are so brainwashed.
Understand that is the situation of one being programmed. Witnesses are taught in fear, leaving them speechless to their Christian conviction when anything negative about organizational problems.
I understand what you mean I have a friend who is devout JW trying to conduct studies with me and when I point out scriptural errors she just goes quiet if I say anything about the organization.
My response is: My faith and conviction in Jesus and God is final like the blow of a sledgehammer. I can watch and listen to All the naysayers without Fear ( fear is not love) of losing my faith.
This tactic is common in a High Control Group. They are sheep to Men
@@nadinaaguero Yes, it's is obvious that the infallibility of the Organization is THE PARAMOUNT doctrine of this cult.
Look at how they try to dodge addressing its errors.
Ok brother. It is difficult. Fading eases the conscience, yet it is the same thing. Moving has helped but the day will come.
Jenny, there are many paths to follow. Each must choose the one that is best for them. The important thing is to not allow opposers (which is what JWs become when they oppress truth through the threat of shunning) to dissuade us from preaching the good news of the Christ.
We should not FEAR MAN. On the other side of FEAR lies FREEDOM.
Well spoken Eric!
I seem to have more success talking to people who have no ties with our former faith JW because they never heard the real truth so they seem to respond like babes interesting
Excellently presented !! 👏😌
(And Timely too !) 😉👍
This is a powerful video! I agree with a lot of the points you make. In some cases timing is just as important as doing the right thing. Leaving the org is like leaving a controlling abusive relationship. Announcing to your abuser that you are leaving is the most dangerous thing you can do. An escape plan is critical in order to reduce the amount of damaged sustained and have the best chance at success. Some need time to plan and have to fake it for a bit in order to protect themselves and sometimes their family. These ones should not feel guilty or be judged. Some of us have already suffered so much abuse of authority that putting our necks on a chopping block before we are ready is not emotional healthy. That being said, remaining in an abusive relationship is condoning that abuse.
Excellent Synopsis. Bless your heart and courage.
I wish I knew all this 40 years ago and I’d never Would had broth my babies into this Sect! SMH
May our Heavenly Father and our brother Jesus continue to Bless you Eric!!
Thank you so much Eric for this video. I’m from French Quebec and like to think I’m a logic person. The way you explain things are SO logical and simple to understand. I’m presently PIMO on the verge of leaving the organization. What you said in this video is EXACTLY how I feel: I still love Jehovah and Jesus, but no longer believe the human organization of JW. According to the bible, that doesn’t make me an apostate,…, but to the organization yes! I wish I could be able to connect with you in some ways. You help me a lot in this hard transition. Thanks again!
"no longer believe the human organization of JW. According to the bible, that doesn’t make me an apostate,…, but to the organization yes! PERFECTLY SAID!!!
I have come to truly appreciate you Eric
Your a great MAN
I appreciate you 💯💯
I would like attend a meeting I speak both Spanish and English
Sad how people have to agree right away when the Borg barks at them
I’m
Happy we freeed from these selfish 8 clowns 🤡
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Don’t you think also calling yours a meeting can have a triggering effect on ex jws trying to fit in?
@@BeautybyJemyjoan Very likely. Better to start calling it our online bible study group.
Very well balanced delivery
A well thought out discourse as usual, it will and by the comments has given us much to think about. Whether to maintain our disaffection with the organization in secret or to state boldly and openly to our friends and family 👪 that disaffection. Each one must be '...convinced in his or her own mind...' I am wrestling with sending this video discution to my relatives still 'PIMI' physically in mentally in. I've or had successfully 'faded' but there are signs that the 'soft shunning' has begun, so I have to make a decision. I'm going to pray about it 🙏 more. Those who see this comment please do so as well for me '...the prayer 🙏 of the righteous one has much force...'
My heartfelt prayers are with you 🙏🏽.. I dissociated when It became intolerable to have any affiliation with them, even a memorial invite. This was years however after fading. The more I woke up, the more I felt like I was being called to cut ties . My family who soft shunned me full on cut me dead.
For me, I simply could not live this lie of “just being weak”, anymore! While I was slipped the latest brochure.
Jehovah and Jesus Christ held my hand through this painful time. I’m emerging on the other side and would encourage you to keep praying, lean on them and ask them to strengthen you & guide your path. 🙏🏽.
Please let us know how it goes.
May Jesus and God Jehovah guide you to the truth, The Holy Scriptures where No Other words are needed. I started studying with a JW having No idea their beliefs and I found instantly I was having an Adverse reaction to what was being taught after a few weeks. I give thanks to her because now that I know what false religion looks like I read the Holy Scriptures more now in my 40’s than ever before in life.
I can’t imagine how tough it must be for you to make that leap, but Jesus walks with you. He is the Way. 🙏🏽😊
@@nadinaaguero Thankyou Nadina for the encouragement, I agree with each point you made in your comment. My faith in Jehovah and his son Jesus is complete and strong. My delema is only in telling my relatives that are still active JW's that they are being misled. It's that decision that I am wrestling with.
@@nadinaaguero Just an addendum; for all the reasons Eric outlined in this video we are discussing.
So sorry for the loss of your wife. You are doing a great job. We really appreciate your hard work. May our heavenly Father reward you in abundance. Please take heart. Lots of hugs and love to you.❤❤❤
Thank you so much. ❤
God bless anyone having the courage to confess Jesus and denouncing this wicked cult…. May we pray for our enemies feed the poor and love God and our neighbor as ourselves in true freedom!!!
Truth will count for something in the new system...
In this wicked system; truth is the opinion of the powerful.
What a great man Jesus the Christ is, was and will always be.
It counts for something Now,
take my yoke upon you for my yoke is kindly and my load is light” (Matthew 11:29-30).
As Pilot asked, "What is truth? " We all see evidences of truth, but real truth comes from God.
@@MarilynNemeth Everyone on the Side of Truth Listens to Me (John. 18:28-40)
Hi my brother my name is lloyd Ferreira I was jehovah's witness for 30yr I believe everything they told me but thanks to jehovah God for using u in such a powerful way. I grew up with out a earthly father so I could never God just as a friend now I see my heavenly father for who he is.my heavenly father
Thank you so much for sharing that, Nia.
It was the opposite for me . Mentally in physicallly out. It took years for me to give myself permission to look an understand the organization an also to understand the background of religion period an I still am struggling to understand. All I know I believe in GOD HIS SON JESUS AN THAT THERE IS A FINAL SOLUTION FOR MANKIND. YOUR videos are helpful. But it is all very devastating some days it's hard to funtion. And I love GOD so I won't give up or go back. And it is a lot of anxiety.
I think you will find it helpful to talk with others who have gone through what you are experiencing (or are going through it themselves right now). You'll find brothers and sisters like that at our weekly meetings: beroeans.net/events/
Thank you I will. I haven't watch your videos for awhile. I've been investigating why some books were left out of the Bible an the history of religion. An today I just wanted peace of mind so I said well I we onder what's going on with exjw. Because really that's my people now. But it gets lonely an since there is not place to meet . I e been praying for somewhere to go but everytime I go truthfully I can't stand some of the ways they believe. So thanks for the invite
It is hard at times because of our adversary satan, uses things to try and depress us. But always remember that it's a trick of his to keep us from trying to get close to our God Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ hang in there it's worth everything thing love
Lloyd Stidham
@@antoinettevorhees2997 In my opinion there are few things more painful than the POMI experience. I believed what was taught back in the 1970s but didn’t associate because I married an unbeliever. I suffered every minute of every day for many years. Sporadically I’d reconnect with the religion but grew to understand that the organization had changed beyond recognition. When I left what I’d thought was “the truth” my entire faith was shaken. Be well, my friend. Tens of thousands of us are in this boat. We will be okay.
The PIMO sits - feeling like a slo-mo - waiting for the strength - to become a POMO (thank you I'll be here all night!)
Thank you for making these videos of encouragement
All true Eric!!
However although frustrating we have to leave it to the individual to exit. I know your intent is not to pressure but it can be triggering.
I really believe that God's spirit is calling his people out of all false religion. Man only has one mediator, Christ Jesus. Sometimes we may be strengthened or encouraged by others.
I believe that having a frontal truth conversation with a PIMI JW will cause them to shutdown - since the WT has done a very good job making JWs plug their fingers into their ears if they hear opposing information from their truth!
I believe in throwing seeds - it worked for me with my husband. When my daughter woke up was the same time I did and everytime she would visit us, she would be frontal with him and as soon as she left he would say that she was becoming worldly and an apostate! I told her to please not to do that- al the progress I had done to wake him up with little baby steps went down. But certainly enough, he woke up a year late I woke up in 2020!!
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@@MarilynNemeth I agree I have has family members say its still the best of all of the religions. The control nd censoring of information is a factor in all cults, fear of punishment /shunning is a weapon. And I think a lot of JW know all is not right but would rather stay they have to much invested.
Eric, I've been watching your journey since day one. This is by far the most important subject we could hear. It's just not good enough to leave a cult, but help others to see it as well. We have a choice to make, may all who are listening to this precious message take it to heart. Nothing can seperate us from God's love through Jesus Christ (Romans 8:38,39) "EXCEPT" ourselves and that includes acknowledging Christ in front of any and everyone! Blessings!
Excelente trabajo hermano Erick!
Thanks as always for your well presented scriptural message. To qualify my comment I have formally disassociated from the watchtower. With that said I must say the message presented here sounds like the same message we gave Bible studies when we as JW’s were engaged in trying to get our studies to leave their religion to become JWS! Those who bought into that lost their whole community! Now the same message with even more severe consequences! I understand your concern and you are certainly correct in saying if we don’t leave we are knuckling under the power of the watchtower leadership, however each must count the cost before acting. I hope this video doesn’t cause some one who hasn’t counted the cost to allow some perhaps faults zeal to cause them to take a step they aren’t ready to do.
You arrived just on time with this truth. Otherwise I will be in captive of men.
Thank you.
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Eric - You must have had an excellent bible education to be such a good teacher.
Well said I have one friend at work I talk to that seem to agree with me that's why he has no church he goes to he told me yesterday that it appears I found the truth through study and believes like we do brother I've been digging and studying vigorously and so thankful that Jehovah and Jesus Christ have opened many doors for me praise be to Jehovah and to his son Jesus forever and ever amen love all of you and may Jehovah through his son Jesus Christ continue to bless all who seek them
A positive heart generates a good attitude no matter the conditions
Here are some ( "view point" ) verses to help with keeping positive from the heart
John 9:4,5;
We must do the works of the One who sent me while it is day; the night is coming when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the world’s light.”
John 9:39-41
Jesus then said: “For this judgment I came into this world, that those not seeing might see and those seeing might become blind.”
Those of the Pharisees who were with him heard these things, and they said to him: “We are not blind also, are we?”
Jesus said to them: “If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, ‘We see.’ Your sin remains.”
@@James-gh4hi very true straight from our Lord and savior himself how I wished I could just go back in time & understand thier language and meet him just for maybe a day or two all the things he could have said to us even that which is not written
Thanks much Eric. Great reasoning and logic. These are nice reminders about what is "loving". There are so many redefinitions of what is 'loving' in the jwOrg. It takes a bit of effort to gain perspective on how our actions can show love in Christ like manner.
My pleasure!
Excellently explained!! Thanks
Great vid, as always Eric. I’ve gotten over my anger toward this religion and don’t view it any different then any other religion with their false doctrines. I will admit it took some time to get over them and now my wife is fully awoken and she’s going threw the same anger faze. We have family still in this religion that we still deal with and pray they wake up. I recommend to not be afraid and lead by example of having the true faith in Jesus Christ. Remember, only Jesus is the judge and he alone will judge all in the future. Thank you Eric again for all the hard work you do in helping people see that the true light is in Jesus Christ and to confess him as our lord and savior, keep the faith and to get over our fear of men.
Peace and agape 🙂
Good to hear your wife has joined in on the path to Christian freedom.
Video outstandingly helpful!! Great thanks Eric.
This is a very good video!
Maciej Yours too❤️
Thank you for that, Maciej.
I will be glad to call you Eric Wilson, my friend.
Thank you. Likewise!
This is excellent
Thank you Eric ! Thats me .....
Thank you so mutch.
You're welcome!
Excellent video . Amen to what you said about hypocrisy , and leading a double life . Stumbling someone else and tell them lies about the Bible . Thanks for sharing . Many blessings to you and yours .
Thank you, Patricia.
Great Job 👍
Excellent message rarely seen, if ever.
Thank you. Joe from wyoming
Thank you too!
Hi Eric, hope all is well and thank you for your work.
Thank you too
Would one really need to disassociate themselves instead of being inactive? If a person is not attending meetings, not a part of the congregation or in any way supporting the JW religion, wouldn't that be enough? Or do I need to take the step and inform the elders and family members (JWs) that I have left the religion? I really don't look forward to being on the elders radar again.
First ask yourself:
Who is Jesus to me personally?
If my FAITH in God's word leads me to believe Jesus is alive, 🍒how can I have a real relationship with him.
Second: Jesus told us himself - I and the Father are one
Understanding this statement and truly believing in their unity is key to our relationship with them.
As we been taught the jw way, interaction with Jesus on a personal level wasn't encouraged - so we never thought of a personal relationship with him to be important/valued compared to a relationship with Jehovah.
When you're proper relationship with them develops and strengthens, the holy spirit teaches you how to walk & talk in God's ways
From that point it's time to decide fore yourself if there is a need for that conversation.
ps. I only had that heart to heart with family & very close friends - who now soft shun me
There is no Biblical requirement to write a formal letter of resignation. You don't have to meet with the elders either. What Jesus asks is that we publicly proclaim his name.
@@BeroeanPickets Thank you
Well said
Thank you.
So called „Hospital Liaison Committee“-Members give medical "advice," actually dictate, without being licensed to do so. Simultaneously they threaten their members with eternal annihilation. They blackmail them into deadly decisions.
TAKE LEGAL ACTION against all HLC-Members. Make them LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE/RESPONSIBLE! File a CRIMINAL CHARGE against HLC Members!
Don‘t argue, do NOT „discuss“!
FILE a CRIMINAL CHARGE against HLC-Member, the legally responsible of your Branch and each one of the Governing Body Members.
Not on topic, but I had a conversation with my mom today who is a jw.
I was trying to share a Christian video with her that cited scripture. She accused me of listening to apostates. I told her that the individual in the video was comparing how the world wanted us to trust our instincts, but the Bible, specifically Proverbs 3:5, says to lean not on our own understanding, but to trust in God. She protested that Satan was leading me away from God.
I couldn’t believe this!
I asked her, “mom, Satan is leading me away from God by having me dive into scripture?”
She replied, “yes, he is giving you misinformation.”
I replied, “mom, doesn’t Satan want you to not read the Bible? Does he not want to convince us that God doesn’t even exist?”
She replied, “they are all apostates because they are not sharing the truth.”
I replied, “mom, is the Bible not truth?”
She replied, “no because it’s not coming from Jehovah or the governing body.”
I replied, “so you have to be a jw to share the Bible?” She at that moment got very defensive and said, “the Bible is the teacher. Just read the Bible.”
Clearly she didn’t want to admit that the jws have the secret pass to her, but all conversations that I have with her imply that if your not a jw, you are not speaking the truth and you are false religion, an apostate.
I keep hoping one day she’ll snap out of that cult. I don’t think I have the strength to pull her out of it. But I’ll keep praying she wakes up.
Just be patient I was like you're mother no one could convince me that JWS didn't have the truth but I came out and learned the truth because if the heart is right she will come out and wake up one day love you you sister keep praying for you're mother and every now and then find a scripture and ask her what it means a scripture that is contrary to what JWs teach just be patient and you may be able to turn her around my prayers are with you sister
Thanks for sharing your experience. Really shocking, yet I think some of my family may be like that too.
Her reaction is similar to people that's been programmed. They follow orders on how to reply, no matter how reasonable or unreasonable. Jews did the same thing when they told Pilot they have no king but Ceasar. Knowing how much they hated the Romans & Ceasar. They followed the lead of their religious leaders.
Hang in there, Alystie. Saul was a zealous opposer until Jesus revealed himself to him. If your mother has a good heart, then Christ will "knock on her door" when the time is right. (Revelation 3:20)
@@Musicnest. Thank you! Yea, I keep coming back to her after a bit to bring up a scripture here and there that crosses my path. I have her read out of her bible and I use the KJV. But I can only do this once in awhile because she thinks I am pushing false doctrine. I even told her at one point, "mom, that video has us discussing the bible! This is a good night for us." But she really believes that nobody is affected by God except jws.
Dank jewel Eric prachtig duidelijk gedaan! hopelijk zijn hier ook Nederlandstaligen tussen? het lijkt me fijn om mee te doen met bijbelstudie
Maybe we can get a Dutch group going.
Jesus didn't tell his followers to leave the synagogue he told them to obey them but don't do what they do. Peter and Paul taught in the synagogue. I can direct people to Christ when witnessing.
Let's not confuse a physical location with membership in a religion. If they would let me preach in a Kingdom Hall, I'd be there in an instant. 😁
@@BeroeanPickets the Jewish Christian’s continued in that religion with the exception that they believed in Jesus as the Christ see Acts 22
@@cybrough Yes, and that was a bad thing, and one of the reasons that Paul seems to have had little respect for the congregation of Jerusalem.
@@LosBereanos nevertheless they were saved Christians
@@cybrough Well, that really depends on the judgment of Jesus, doesn't it? It's not for us to say who is saved and who isn't. There is no once saved, always saved.
Hi Brother, I Appreciated this talk. :)
Isaiah 61
Jesus was anointed to
'Declare good news to the meek'
'To bind up the brokenhearted'
'To proclaim liberty to the captives'
'Wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners'
Meekness is the quality of Humility and Love.
Humble people are ones who view creation through the eyes of God's Word and treat others in Principle.
They refuse to let human wisdom trump God's Word.
This is a stand for Jehovah's Universal Sovereignty.
Such ones who choose God's Word over men are often ripped apart [Brokenhearted] from those whom they love and life as they know it.
Using the Holy Spirit, Jesus spiritually wakes them up [wide opened eyes] and shows them they have been [captive] to corrupt systems.
With a sound mind they begin to see things for how they Truly are not as they Prefer them to be. Courageously they follow the Christ as he leads them
out of captivity, [proclaim liberty]
What is the zoom ID and password for the meeting as well as the time and day it starts? How do I get this info? I checked your website but couldnt find it.
I wanted to add another comment under this topic. 2 John 9-11 Everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. The one who does remain in ths teaching is the one who has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.///From where I am sitting, JW PUSH AHEAD and DOES NOT REMAIN in teaching of the Christ when they claim Jesus is not our mediator, when they claim we can't have God's favor unless we have faith in and obey the governing body, when they publish/published falsehoods writing "Jehovah caused"...or " Jesus made sure that"....
That's why I come out from the org. They don't teach the truth.Thanks Eric
You're most welcome
We're each on our own path, including every JW. The process of God /evolution /natural selection will settle it all.
I would like to attend the Zoom Meetings but I don't see a link.
Here is the link to the schedule: beroeans.net/events/
There's a difference between doing what you are talking about. and what some are doing. staying in to help others out. once you handed "You're hat" you no longer can help no one.
The question is, how do you do that without being exposed? If you help others out, you must preach the truth to them, but they are all trained to run to the elders and expose the "apostate." So what ends up happening often is that they keep you silent and compliant.
Is all well? It’s been about a month since you posted a video. I hope everything is okay.
Working on my book, but back in the saddle again.
I was one of those people who really really loved their family. I did the family gatherings whenever I was off for a holiday. In later years I had my parents and Aunt over every weekend and sometiimes twice a week. . for years. Then my dad died and I had my mom and aunt over. Our conversations were usually fairly benign, but from time to time I'd mention something I'd seen in the magazines that was contrary to what the bible said. My mom seem to give those things a lot of thought, but my Aunt decided not to come to my home anymore and wouldn't bring my mom.
I've written my aunt letters (not my mom for she has demctia ). I've written my youngest brother twice. He didn't answer, but my Aunt of course didn't answer my bible questions using the bible. she pretty much pointed to the orgnization. I have no contact with any of my witness family. Last year my 2nd brother died and witnesses I hadn't seen since I was a kid reached out to me. . . i asked them some bible questions, but either got no answer or got an 'believe the organization' answer.
Even my granddaughter has stopped talking with me. She isn't a Witness but claims to really follow the bible. We had an . .I guess argument . . . about something she'd done. She kept giving me the reasons why she did it. But never admiting she was wrong. I gave her scriptures related to what she'd done. She ended up telling me she didn't want to talk to me anymore. I have a fairly big family. . . most are witnesses. I do have one niece that isn't a witness, but she's busy with her life. She isn't a bible believer. So I really don't have a family.
I never was really one to have 'wordly friends', so. . I have no friends either. I am friendly with my neighbors, but that's about it. I do have one bible believing son and he and I talk almost every day. My other son hates god, Jesus and the bible. . .so. . . I find it really so hard to believe a a person who claims to believe the bible choose what a man would tell them over what the bible says. . over Jesus' words. I keep thinking it is the way I've presented it to them. It must be me.. . i don't know.
I know that what you say is true as I have witnessed the same thing time and again. Still, it is difficult to comprehend how people can claim to worship God and obey Jesus Christ, and at the same time, follow the dictates of men even when they require worshippers to disobey God. At some point, this crosses the line into wickedness. Where that line is, Jesus knows. I do not know.
B Johnson, your story has similarities with mine. I have an elderly JW aunt who lives with her son in a distant city from me. I would call her, talk to her, and send her small gifts. About the time I was waking up, she quit answering her phone. I think that her non-jw son has blocked my calls. I heard from a friend that my aunt has dementia. Whatever the reason, I can no longer contact her. My other non-dementia JW aunt, asked me questions about the org, which, if truthfully answered and tape recorded, would have saved the elders the trouble of a back room meeting. After a lifetime of preaching, JWs are only interested in snuffing me out. We need to make new friends.
@@vintage6346 I left. . .wow. . . .over 30 years ago now. The brothers never did show up and try to 'catch' me. I did move from Chicago to a suberb. But some of the witnesses that came to my house, I actually used to go to the Kingdom hall with them.
I don't always come out and the ones that come to my door I was a witness unless they ask.
Unless something has changed I can't see my mom with dementia because my oldest brother who had been disfellowshipped for decades, hopped back in and now handles my Aunt and mom's affairs. He said no one can visit my mom unless they are VAXX. And I am not about to do that.
I never was good at making friends. I was always on the quiet side, though I did get get a bit more outgoing in my later years. But friends take a lot of work. . .unless they really believe in God's word. I don't go out much and my neighbors, even the nicer ones, seem to be blah blah blah 'christians' with no substance to them. Not people you can hold a bible conversation with.
@@bjohnson2143, I completely agree with you regarding vaccinations. I am not vaccinated. I'm not quiet. I live in a neighborhood that isn't far from a Kingdom Hall. I think that my street is probably constantly visited by JWs (well, before covid), yet I only received one visit to my door, several "invitations" crammed into the edge of my door and under it, a few voice messages (as for non-jws) on my phone, and a couple of "preaching letters" (as though to someone who they have no idea who I am). When I took a local bus, one sister in a wheelchair turned her chair sideways, so that she wouldn't be looking at me. Apparently she is shunning me, though I know of no official action against me in the local congregation. I don't attend, of course. That was such a waste of time, and "waking up" has been such a blessing. I used to have a few JW friends, and I miss them. I hope they wake up.
@@vintage6346 I really wish my family would wake up. While I in general hope all people would turn to God, I have no ex-wtness friends rhat really care enough about what they do.
Over the years I have had witnesses make multiple return visits to me. . . To help me; to encourage me. One called herself studying with me. She came 2 weeks in a row but before the next study I asked her what was the good news of the kingdom message that the first century Christiana prea he'd. She said it was" the food news of the kingdom". I told her that wasn't an answer. You can't answer a question with the question. She then did research and cut and pasted another non answer from one of their books in a text message.. I told her that still wasn't the answer and sent her scriptures that spelled out exactly what it was. She never came back.
I've given them printed copies of old magazines to show them how their teachings have changed. Copies of the Question from the Readers where someone ask if Jesus was mediator ONLY for the 144,000, and it said yes. Even they they would have just showed me the scripture where it said he was mediator for all men. NONE of them ever took the side of the bible. They changed there belief and sides with the magazine teaching.
I call fhem all sorts of names in my mind. I don't feel sorry for them.
10:33 You are presuming that John the Gospeller is John of Zebedee.
In a thesis by Fr. Jean Colson, this priest (ordained in 1938) argued (in 1968, when I was born), these are two different people and the hagiographer was not one the the first twelve bishops, but a Cohen (a reason why he had a house in Jerusalem to receive Mary in, Fr. Colson argued, where he had also hosted Christ and the Apostles for the Last Supper).
If at one point he did wear the golden headband, he could have been in a similar situation for some time to Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathaea - both of whom are saints, both of whom are considered as having come out of hiding in time.
In most cases, a PIMO JW has one shot to inform a PIMI about the truth. Then the elders come for him and kick him out. No JW, upon waking up, has basis for being angry with another for not sharing apostate ideas. Each one must wake up in his own time.
I agree. I've thought about this repeatedly, and I keep coming to that same conclusion. When I contact a former friend who is a "fully in" JW, that will be my one opportunity to pour out my heart, telling my friend that Watchtower is a huge mistake. Almost at the speed of light, I can have a knock on my door with two elders standing there. So, I'm weighing my choices, deciding to whom to reveal myself. I did tell my "3rd cousin, once removed", but he hadn't attended meetings for years anyway,...maybe a decade. One dear friend lives in a different country from me, and I don't have her contact information. She was a genuine friend, and I'd like for her to be the one I use my "one chance" to warn.
@@vintage6346 I think you should just plant Seeds,Just one at a time ,then your friend may wake up on there own ,TAKE IT SLOW ,remember the old saying ,you can lead a horse to the water ,but you cant make him drink.remember they didnt get indoctrinated over night ,so you are not going to make the person change over night, James 1:19-20
@@zip6404
No zip. I said exactly what I meant to say and I know this subject well. Jehovah's Witnesses are very alert to hearing any deviation from the "authorized version" of Watchtower. I made my comment knowing full well that some advise the method you suggested.
@@vintage6346 My Brother, im a pomo,i been planting seeds just one at a time for over 30 years ,ive never had one problem from any one ,when the seeds you plant are in harmony with the Bible.Hebrew 4:12, remember they didnt get indoctrinated overnight.peace My Brother.
@@zip6404,
I believe that your suggestion is a poor strategy. I agree with the OP.
Hey Erin. Your last video here was posted more then a month ago. You usually post every two weeks? Whats the hold up, brother?
Hi Erin,
I've been working 7 days a week trying to complete my book which is now finished and will be released by the middle of August. Will be resuming video production within a week.
@@LosBereanos Excellent! Thank you for responding to me. 🙂
Oh, whew! Looking so forward to your next video. Congratulations on your book! That’s wonderful!
@@LosBereanos I wish I had the payience to read. What will your book contain?
@@erinmorano9740 I'll be releasing it by August 15. I'll introduce the table of contents in that video.
The problem is Jehovah's witnesses won't watch anything like this. It's "apostate". Ask me how I know. 😆
I think a lot of JW are to scared in case it is true and they know the repercussions.
ERIC , merci pour ton travail si riche ...
cependant ,et pour la premiere fois je crois , je ne peux etre en accord avec cette facon de voir.
En effet , tu es sorti de cette organisation par la force des choses mais repense a toute cette période que tu as vécu avant ta sortie...
Dans quel état étais tu ? cette attente interminable ...
Alors ne sois pas si dure avec ceux qui aimerait tellement sortir mais qui ne peuvent pas encore...
Personnellement , je suis atteint d'une leucémie aprés avoir eu un cancer grave , j'ai rendu toutes mes charges de berger depuis que je suis en désacord total avec cette organisation et ce soit
disant esclave fidèle et avisé , je ne lis plus aucune de leurs publications , je ne prèche plus a leur manière ni ne rend compte d'aucune activité ...Enfin depuis mainteneant 4 ans , j'honore
l'invitation de christ a participer au repas de notre seigneur en mangeant le pain et en buvant le vin...Voila ma facon de servir la vraie vérité , celle de Christ et d'etre en Christ.
Je reste un PIMO pour essayer d'aider au mieux ceux qui sont enfermés a l'intérieur ainsi que mon épouse et mon fils ( j'ai déja réussi a sortir ma fille ).
Je pense qu'il faut un enorme courage pour etre un vrai PIMO aujourd'hui !!! Seul DIEU CONNAIT LES COEURS ...et nul ne doit juger...
Encore merci pour ton beau travail mon frere...
Eric, although you do not know me, I'd like to think we are, and will continue to be, friends. All best wishes, AJ225
I sure we would be and I'm sure we will meet up someday
Have you noticed what a JEHOVAH WITNESS "mother" did after Stephen Lett's speech in Ecuador (Guayaquil)?!??
Please report about it on your channel.
Off topic but is there a legitimate connection between New World Translation and Johannes Greber. I’ve seen it said but was wondering if it was factual.
Hi Paul. I'm someone quite familiar with several Bible translation works, and have read and studied a bit of Hebrew and Greek.
A better question to ask is; "is the NWT corrupted? And if so, how is the NWT corrupted? ".
Some people have claimed the NWT has connections to Johannes Greber, claimed to be a spiritist, and there appears to be evidence of this. However, the question lies, not in the man who was claimed to translate the texts, but if there is any credibility in the translations themselves.
A lot of people try to use the "Johannes Greber" argument to discredit the NWT renditions, such as John 1:1 (a god). However, the false dichotomy made is that is assumes the NWT and Johannes Greber are "unique" in this regard, when they are not. In addition, from what I have studied personally, the NWT's translation of John 1:1 is in fact very accurate according to the Greek Grammar, and is found in many, many Bible translations (including ancient manuscripts).
So, in the end, the concern of Johannes Greber's influence upon the NWT, really is a non-issue, even 'if' the man was involved in spiritism. What we should examine is the credibility of the translation of itself in comparison with the original source texts we have.
However, that being said, I do not hold the NWT as a trustworthy translation in other respects, and have seen various corruptions (some words have been altered, others removed, some added, to support the FDS and 1914 doctrines) , but John 1:1 (the issue where Johannes Greber is often brought up) is not one of them.
You forgot to mention than in Europe, when You have not signed the consent form for using Personal Data , you are not forced anymore to participate at their JW -Christian activities.. You will never asked to be an elder Ministerial servant, regular Pioneer., or called by telephone to give an account of your field service and without being disfellowshipped. (
I am already 3 years in that situation and enjoying it.. And having a Good relationshipwith family and brothers and sisters.. Thus there is a legal way in the EU to make a clear statement…To write a letter is not really neccesary If you read the privacy law in the EU. 😊
I am not convinced of your argumentations.., If You consider Apostle Paul he entered in the synagoges , and circumsised Timothy, and that a lot of other things of the Mosaic law, even If he was a Christian.. Why did he that? Hé explained: for a Jewish one a became a Jew , If it brought to save a Jew.. Thus confessing Jesus before men, isn’t neccesary not taking account of the sentiment of others.. Love take in account the sentiment of your JW family.. like apostle Paul did with the Jews… This sounds more a speech from an pastor from the Advent church of the Sevent Day, the Bible Students or Jehovah Witnesses that urges their members to leave the Catholic church…that in their eyes are the false religion
Sorry but I think that my criticism on your speech was neccesary..
Hallo Eric, is alles oke? ik mis je mooie lezingen
Thank you. I'm making more now. Had to take time off to complete my book which will be published very soon. Watch for the video introducing it.
@@BeroeanPickets fijn dank je wel, ik zie er naar uit en ga zeker kijken!
I think Jesus died on a cross cause there's a bible verse that saids that there was a sign placed above his head ,so that tells alot
I came to that conclusion too when we started learning Hebrew.
The cross shape is also in the older forms of the Hebrew language for the (last) letter Taw/Tav. In ancient Pictograph Hebrew it looks like a cross and even in Paleo Hebrew it has a cross shape like an 'x'.
And the *word* Taw in Hebrew literally means 'mark' or 'sign'. (Ezekiel 9:4 interlinear, the word translated 'mark'.)
And my husband made a great point. In the garden of Eden, they were blocked from entering by a flaming spinning sword...and if you turn a sword upside down, what shape is it?
John 20:25 also talks about the nails (plural) in his hands. There would be only ONE nail in his hands had they been over His head. Not two. I believe that verse was put there knowing that in the future there would be those that would choose to deny the cross.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 the sign needs to be seen and with arms in the way can't see sign ,if choose stake! If is cross you can see sign clearly
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 is impossible stake ,were can they put sign?
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 try to put arms up and hands like torture stake and there's no room for sign arms are on the way biceps and arms
Correction false zeal.
Is sabbath still important or not? Can you make a video about this. My mother and some of my siblings are JW. Please enlighten me.
You and Mark Martin are the 2 ex JW that I follow. Your video about blood enlightened me. Watchtower is really the culprit and I know that most of the JW are brainwashed by them.
I attended one of Mark Martin’s meetings, and he seemed like a very nice person. However, I later heard from one of my associates that Mark Martin teaches that we will not have a resurrection. I would appreciate it if you could verify this for me. I’d rather not do it myself.
@@vintage6346 if the answer matters to you
you owe it to yourself to hear it and evaluate the arguments
nobody can do this for you - you need to have your own internal convictions
Phi50, my request is specifically to Rommel, because he tells us that he watches Mark Martin’s videos. Christians have no need at all to keep the Sabbath. Mark Martin believes in keeping the Sabbath. There will be a resurrection.
Wonder what happened to Eric??
Working hard to finish my book. More videos out soon. :)
@@BeroeanPickets Great.Thx
I have and will continue to listen to your videos. But I have come to notice that in several of them you come across a very dogmatic and arrogant. While listening to this video I thought of Peter who denied knowing Jesus 3 times because of his fear of men. And how Jesus lovingly called him on it. To pull up and use scriptures threatening people who are PIMO with burning in the lake of fire is just another way of trying to infuse them with doubt about their own decision making process. It's just another way of trying to infuse fear into their very being. We all come from different backgrounds and experiences and our spiritual growth is at different stages. Knowing that many who have been shunned have committed suicide. I would caution you to tone down your judgements for fear that some poor soul will take it to heart, leave the organization and succumb to any suicidal ideology they may already be fighting. Leave it to the Holy Spirit to gently guide and direct those who are seeking Christ.
remember Jesus didn't tone it down even Judus commited suicide if he toned it down he would have never died for our sins when we tone it down we become like so many who are fearful of truth
Elaine, I understand your concern. As I said in the video, I am not making rules. Jesus is the one who made the rule.
. . .“Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens; 33 but whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens. (Matthew 10:32, 33)
How each one applies this rule in their own life is a personal decision. Of course, there are many in the organization that have no faith in Jesus. They are in because they were born into it, or because of other reasons that have little to do with obeying the Christ. This rule is not made for them. It is made for the Children of God who have faith in Christ and desire the reward offered to them.
I couldn't help but think of a childhood experience when I told my friend next door that Santa Claus wasn't real & the presents came from his dad & mom. He couldn't believe it, & went to ask his mom. The next thing I know his mom calls me to the side and said she was disappointed in me telling him there was no Santa. But I innocently said why would you want him not to know that you gave him the toys 🤔. That telling him that Santa gave him the toys wasn't true. (A simple truth no matter how its delivered is better than a coated lie).
Yes! We all can be treated differently on a one on one discussion, but when covering so much information over a large crowd sometimes it may seem a "cut dry " deliverance.
@@BeroeanPickets just a question ,arent pimos confessing union with christ before men,by not believing in wtbts falsehood and believing strictly in the BIBLE?and by planting SUBTLY seeds of bible truths to Jws?when i was a jws i always believe Strictly in the BIBLE ,and it was no secret ,to the JWs ,and i was always Soft shunn ,However they never had grounds to df me because i stuck to the BIBLE.Psalms 119:97-107
@@zip6404 Some PIMOs are still physically in but are preaching the Christ to their friends and family, so yes, they are "confessing Jesus before men." Others are letting the fear of what men will do to them silence their voices. Others are biding their time looking for the best way to fulfill their mission to preach the good news. Many, have lost faith in God, but remain in because they want to keep contact with family and the whole issue of confessing Christ is meaningless to them, since they no longer believe in Christ and God.
The most ironic part is you have 7 men who say they are Jesus "brothers". Jesus gave a command to preach about his death and resurrection, which the Scriptures calls the Good News about Jesus. The organization talks about everything else but the Gospel, which Christ directed should be the primary message now. The Kingdom was the primary message in Jesus day while he was alive, but when he died, the Kingdom became supplemental, the Good News about Jesus became primary. These "brothers" of Christ do not 1) preach the gospel of Christ 2) do not call on Christ 3) do not baptize in the name of the Father, Son or Holy Spirit OR in Jesus name 4) encourages witnesses NOT to partake of Christs blood and body, which Jesus says "anyone" and "everyone" 5) Do not believe on him. Sure they acknowledge him, but they do not believe on him.
Funny how the apostle Paul, who had a heavenly hope, never considered himself Christ "brother" in the intimate sense like his disciples. In fact he referred to Christs disciples as "the Lords brothers"
So are these 7 men really directed by Christ? The scriptures says that "NOONE who trusts in Christ will ever be disappointed" So is it really about being a JW? Or is it about trusting and believing on Christ, and sharing the Gospel with others?
There is so much wrong in the first 5 minutes of your sermon that I don't know where to start
Problems with your slant on human behavior, psychology, scriptural misdirection, and what many PIMOs are.
The thing that shocks me is your WT Elder-like supercilious moral judgement toward PIMOs that fall into your narrow catagory.
If you are interested in a civil and thoughtful exchange on what I have said, we could do so via email.
It is quite possible I have no correctly understood your meaning of what statements I took exception to.
If not, that is fine as well. I make that offer to assure that I'm not some critical keyboard warrior neing negative for no good reason.
Hi GorgeousRoddyChrome. My email is meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
Mmm, its not pulling up. The .net, that is. Will try again later.