I love how you educate your viewers, not just trying to sell products and telling people to use this and apply multiple coats of this and that when its not even needed. Keep up the good work guys. Thank you very much
Going through a tough time. So taking care of myself and going fully gentleman look is my goal now. Cleaning my bedroom and organizing my stuff has been my therapy. Clothes as well as shoes are my next addition to that therapy. And yeah, discovering these videos really takes things into a certain perspective.
You guys are full of it! Some people need to maintain a mirror shine because of their jobs. It's a pain in the ass to repair a scratched mirror shine! Why not do something that can prevent the scratch in the first place?? J. A., thanks for the tip!! I've got one for you: Have a stitcher sew some cotton flannel bags for you, with the nap facing out. That way, when you invert the bag, the nap will be against your shoes!
@@mikewilton4872 Obviously not one that you would be able to fill! Aside from the military and police, some EMTs wear highly polished shoes. Some positions in high finance require mirror shines. It all depends on company policy. If the boss wants it, you do it, or you work elsewhere. You don't seem to be concerned about your appearance, so I hope you're independently wealthy!
This is the best vid. Yes always condition straight out of the box. You also explain the difference between conditioner, cream and wax. A lot of other vids dont. Thanks!
More useful practical information by these guys. No fluff, just good common sense material that can be used by everyone. Thanks guys. Looks like I have to do more shopping on your web site.
Thanks for the education about shoe care and shoe construction. I bought my first really quality shoes (Allen Edmonds) in 1985. I thought they were expensive at the time. I ended up having them resoled five times and getting regular wear out of them for over 12 years. And I didn't know enough to condition them when they were new. If I had . . . I might still be wearing them. But those shoes taught me to pay up and cry once, then smile for a decade. I was also amazed at how comfortable a dress shoe could be for wearing 12 or 14 hours a day. As a result of these videos I am buying some Potter & Sons and Saphir products from your site.
Excellent advice from Heath, as always. At the risk of gilding the lily, if I could add just a bit to #4: Immediately after buying a new pair, one of two things should ALWAYS be in your shoes - either your feet, or your shoe trees.
I wish these mail order internet brands would just ship them with trees in them if you want to pay for that. I got an order of three shoes and three trees, it would have been nice to have them in there for shipping. I take them out of the box, condition them, and put the trees in.
If possible, would you do a video on shoe trees. For example, I understand cedar shoe trees are best but what is a good/bad/ugly/over priced shoe tree. Thanks for educating on proper shoe care.
It's best to buy trees with the shoes. High end shoes such as bespoke and John Lobb's ready to wear will come with a proper-fitting last similar to the last the shoes were made on as will some higher mid-range shoes and boots. A well-fitting shoe tree is best, whatever the material. Any other shoe tree is next to pointless. If they are not a snug fit under the complete vamp and into the heel curve then you may have to file and/or build up your trees to fit shoes with old leather nailed or bonded onto the trees similar to what bespoke lastmakers do when a customer returns after a period of time for a new pair of shoes.
Cedar does absorb moisture which is why it's lovely to creosote, oh and used for shoe trees. It is prone to splitting though which is something to be aware of if you have to pin or bond leather to it to build out your trees. Extreme dry wet cycles splits cedar. Don't use trees to dry out shoes - sit them on their side for good air circulation around the soles and let them dry naturally. Beech is sometimes used for shoe trees. Though it's less durable I prefer cedar for it's odour and I can apply cedar oil once a year
Just ordered some saphir cream in Bordeaux from y'all to give my black Park Aves a little color kick and to protect them. I wouldn't have known about the cream and shoe maintenance without you and your videos. Thank you
Just got my first pair of Allen Edmonds Bartletts because of this channel. I've never spent more that $60 on a pair of shoes before. Shoot, until I was 8 years old or so, I didn't even have shoes. Grew up really poor and all that. These are the most comfortable things I've ever put on my feet. I don't want to take them off. Thanks, Y'all.
I am amazed how interesting I find your channel. You guys are artisans. I really enjoy the work boot renovations. I would like to suggest a video similar to this one but for work boots. Keep the videos coming and when my boots need renovating, I know where I'll be sending them.
They look like my Barker double monk-straps once upon a time! After 10 years of hard graft, they look really tired. Thanks to your videos I am learning how to restore them.
I really enjoy your channel. I am an old (and I mean old) Vandy baseball player (from Chattanooga) who is now living in Cleveland, Ohio. So, hearing you guys chat it up with the Nashville/Southern accent is very soothing and comforting to me! I just received a new pair of shoes for my birthday. And I am wearing them to church tonight. Getting ready to put Saphir Renovateur and Saphir Wax on them before I go. Then... shoe trees! Thanks for the advice. When I get back for a VandyBoys reunion, I'll have to bring some shoes that need repair to you guys!
Rick, thank you very much for the comment! That’s really neat to hear you played for Vandy! Any time you’re back in the Nashville area, feel free to stop in and visit. Enjoy those shoes. 😉
I bought some nice quality shoes at auction and they are great, some nearly new. I agree shoe trees are very important but I scrimped on them because they are pricey ($25-$30 pair). In the meantime I put some cheap plastic ones in them that sort of work to keep the shape but they are not as good as cedar wood ones. I am checking auction-discount sites and buying cedar ones when I find good deals.
I"m prior military, and I've been using Kiwi shoe polish (neutral or an appropriate color) for years on my shoes, and occasionally other leather projects. I've been seeing a lot of people going with Saphir lately, and I"m guessing it's better. Can you say anything about how/why it's better? Thanks! (Been watching your vids for a month or two now, and they are really great. I do leatherwork, and seeing your work on various shoes, it's really fun to watch, and informative!)
It's much better! It's also pricey, but it goes a long way, and it's worth every penny. You won't find any petroleum products in Saphir; it's all natural. Petroleum products are not good for leather products. I think T and H have a video of a pair of shoes that had been polished with Kiwi for at least a decade, but never conditioned. When they stripped the wax off, they found severe cracks in the leather of the upper. There was no way to repair it. If the owner had used a Saphir conditioner - there are several - a few times a year, he might still be wearing those shoes! I figure, if you have a pair of shoes or boots that you care enough to repair, you care enough for Saphir!
It seems to me there are very few leather nourishing/sealing/protecting products that don't darken/change the colour of lighter shoes, such as tan shoes. I have even found that each subsequent application darkens the leather even more, so the colour of the shoe changes quite dramatically over time, this is something of a challenge in shoe care i find.
First thing I do when I get a NEW pair of shoes is get shoe trees for them. Cedar is best. If I'm replacing an old pair of shoes I'll use the existing trees for them. And ALWAYS keep them in bags and the boxes so they don't get beat up in the closet.
Great solid advice. I need to look you guys up. I’m a Nashville native and local living downtown with a slight shoe problem (35+ pairs). Be nice to have a local place to pick up Saphir.
I just bought my first pair of "nice shoes" Standard finish. Renovatuer was stripping off brown - it was on my fingers and polishing cloth, the leather looked to have very slight uneven color in a few small spots afterwards. I strongly recommend on new shoes of any kind you use a pure cream as mentioned and not a cream/cleaner. It is not worth the risk.
Continues to be one of my favorite Channels. Amazing, functional stuff. Your channel has not only earned my sub, but I’ll be bringing my shoes to Nashville the next time I visit the in-laws to give you my business.
Nice I kind of do the same, I do not care so much about the fabric finishing, I want to give my shoes a good start. Then I do not have to overkill it. People think I polish my shoes a lot tough 😂 I basicly brush them of 30 sec after every use, and put trees in them. If they are dirty like a little mudd, I vipe them of with a very damp cloth. If scuffs I put on a little bit of dark polish. Ocasionaly I put some renovature mainly on the creeses, do the edges and polis them allaround.
I just used Renovateur and Invulner on my new Thursdays. I'm hoping that's enough. I want to keep these for a looong time. I'm skipping the shoe trees, though. I love the way these look when they get beat up.
This is a perfect, short-and-sweet summary. Appreciate you guys! It seems that many believe natural shoe polish/wax shouldn't be used. Is this sage advice? If so, what wax would one use for a nice pair of white leather sneakers? Also, how often is it recommended to clean, condition, and polish one's shoes in order to reap the benefits, without overdoing it and potentially ruining the shoes?
Skeptastic Glad you enjoyed! Most of the Saphir line of shoe creams/waxes are primarily natural ingredients, and they’re some of the best polishes on the market. In regards to white leather sneakers, I’d recommend just a good shoe conditioner. Again, most of the Saphir conditioners would work. If you want to add a slight shine, you could add a shoe cream. Creams will also add some conditioners and mild waxes to the leather. How often you apply it depends upon how often you wear the shoes. If you wear them frequently, applying conditioner and/or cream once every couple of weeks or so would keep the shoes in great shape.
Just found your channel, and I'm loving it! Can you deconstruct a pair of mezlans? I love the brand because I think they're beautiful shoes. However, no one has an in-depth review of the brand. Thanks!
Maybe you've already done this but it's escaped my searches, but can you do one comprehensive video about all the Saphir product line and how and when to use them. No, I'm not associated with the brand but recognize they make, arguably, the premier shoe care products. Before I discovered your channel and excellent videos, I watched several on the Kirby Allison channel. No disrespect to him, but he illustrates shining shoes wearing a white dress shirt with cufflinks and with the laces still in the shoes. What a difference after seeing your expert understanding and even eviscerating shoes that look like they were retrieved from a compost heap and transforming them into better than new masterpieces! Yes, my bad. Anyway, I decided to to up my shoe maintenance game and sent for a raft of Saphir products even ordering them from a retailer in Canada since they had a few items I couldn't locate here in the states online. I'm sure I was naive and ordered way more than I actually needed and spent an embarrassing amount on my order. Can you please show your 127k subscribers the correct sequence of use and sort out the confusing array of products. Yes, you did mention that in this video, but an even more comprehensive video would be appreciated now that you will be my new supplier of Saphir. With thanks! You brothers are the real deal. Never thought I'd be spending hours binging shoe videos, as if I'd just discovered, Game of Thrones or a must see Netflix series!
I have 1 question. If I have shined my shoes using the polishing wax, can I apply the conditioner directly on the shoes or should I remove the polishing wax layer before applying the conditioner? Thank you.
Great TH-cam videos' I have learned so much about shoes and what to look for. I realized that I have been pretty much been purchasing average to junky shoes. I have really no use to buy Allen Edmonds and other high quality shoes. But I have followed your videos and learned what to look for in a well built shoe in the near luxury brands. Have purchase 2 pair of Merchanti Fiorentini's a burgundy wholecut and a Navy Cap Toe that appear to be very well made these are in the $150 price point. My 3 pair which totally surprise me was a black ElANROMAN Cap Toe that has a Blake stitched sole at an amazing price of $100. Not over concerned about their longevity since I work from home, but we go out or I have to go out of town to a client site I always want to look my best. And it is very true you can tell a lot about someone by their shoes. How they look, if they are cheap, and how they are kept.
I bought an expensive pair of leather protective toe work boots and was looking for ways to break them in. I never knew this whole shoe world existed, lol. Now it's in my algorithm.
Hello, I love your content. I'm currently awaiting the arrival of my first good pair of shoes (Carmina black cap-toe Oxfords)! This was very helpful as I want to take great care of them so they last for years. Do you have any thoughts on different types of shoe trees? Is it worth it to get lasted trees from the manufacturer? Spring tension vs the screwed type, best types of wood, etc.? Thank you!
Reminisce the time i washed my Patrick Cox that I brought from Selfridges in the shower’ because I needed a matt texture.. Regretted it and would never do that today! but there still around all 25 years old still looking new.. 🧐
In addition to using shoe trees (which is the first thing you should get when buying shoes), purchase some shoe boxes. The Container Store sells them and I have them for all of my shoes.
Straight to the point, thank you! Quick question, what's the best way to get rid of those small scratches (in both leather and outer sole sides) that appear as a result of the use?
Just received a pair of Becket Simonon shoes. Very useful video for making sure these shoes last a long long time. It also pains me to know yall are going to cut up such a special product lol
Chase M I lived in Atlanta for years and l find the accent charming .. l know and love Southerners .. in many ways they are gentle, kind, smart and open-hearted although a few are still angry they lost the war of Northern Aggression ..
Any advice on how to determine if the shoe tree is too tight in the shoe (aside from the obvious of it kot fitting at all)? Like if it barely squeezes in, is there any fear of stretching out the shoe?
@@glumberty1check the size chart of the tree. The more snug the fit, the better. The springs in adjustable shoe trees aren't strong enough to deform the shoe lasting/shape of dress shoes. If you have unstructured shoes like moccasin construction loafers or boat shoes, you might see some deformation in the toe box (so maybe opt for single piece vamp trees, not split toe), but this isn't an issue with dress shoes or shoes with toe puffs/countering. Nicer trees are lasted and hinged, not spring loaded, but they are pricey and model/shoe specific, but you want the tree to be under more tension, not less, to straighten the vamp and sole back out to counter the effect of you walking on the shoes.
For me the winner is clear wax. I wax my leather boots that i wear daily ( in Canada ) around once a monte to protect from calcium. Making shure to clean it before reaplying to avoid layering
Geckomayhem Hey! Congrats on the higher quality shoes. If you take care of them, they’ll last so much longer. We also sell shoe trees on our website...potterandsons.com/products/cedar-shoe-trees
Garage sales, estate sales, flea markets, ebay are all good sources for shoe trees, in addition to Heath & Trenton. FWIW they have a great website, too. And in a pinch, you can use tissue paper or newspaper.
You suggest wearing at home first in case we need to return. You also say to condition first to prevent creases and cracks. If we condition, there are warnings that the leather could darken a bit. Are the shoes still returnable after applying conditioner? same question if I go have them stretched to fit better in the toe area.
Obviously, you’ll need to figure out whether or not you’re going to keep the shoes before you condition them or stretch them. Most places won’t take them back if you’ve done anything to the shoes.
@TrentonHeath That is what I thought, but if I wear them inside during the return period without conditioning first, they are subject to that big crease wrinkle across the top of the shoes where the toes bend.
@@jyobaccio1that happens over time with hundreds and thousands of repeat flexing of the toe. You'll know quickly if they don't fit properly, no need to walk miles inside your house so you should not crease the toe that quickly, especially with higher quality leather. Try them on, walk around your house for a few minutes while doing a fit assessment, and decide to keep or exchange. It's not something that takes days or weeks imo.
Once you have done a complete regiment (leather conditioner, cream, and then wax), how do I maintain the shoe? Do I have to strip everything off and then re-apply or can I keep adding layers of wax every few months?
Thanks, guys. Another great video. I just got a pair of Beckett Simonon oxfords last week and haven’t worn them yet so this vid is perfect for me. I have a question for you, though. What do you guys think of Venetian Leather Balm? I have some for the Thursday Boots I own. Thanks again.
Idk how true this is but this cobbler from John Lobb says he uses maguiars leather protector for protection and xpress spray wax for maintenance shine.
Should I waterproof new leather boots before I wear them? If so, do I condition leather first and then spray on the waterproofer? Or just waterproof the boots?
Should we do anything to prepare the leather soles? I realize they can be replaced, but they can also be ruined with one unfortunate rain storm. Would you ever apply a waterproofing or conditioner to leather soles?
I just saw that you guys have a ship-in resole service. I'm in East TN and a cobbler in Knoxville screwed up a pair of 1000 Mile's and did shoddy work on some AE Independence line. Now I'm afraid to take my nice dress shoes anywhere. I'll strongly consider shipping to you guys when the time comes.
Each type of leather has its pros and cons. Preparation and maintenance of calfskin is why I avoid them. My dress shoes are all custom cordswained in ostrich. Ostrich leather is 2 1/2 times stronger than calf, you never shine, condition, or moisturize it, the entire hide is nothing but one, big countless number of imperfections and so you don’t worry at all about scuffing, and the only maintenance at all is periodically wiping them with a damp cloth; that’s it! I even penciled up the design of two of my pairs for a real bespoke feeling!
I just stumbled across this channel and I'm really happy I did, this is great advice! I just have one question though, will the wax also make it waterproof or water repellent? Or is there a different product that can help with this?
Hi! We’re happy you stumbled upon our channel! Wax is a nice thing to use, sparingly, on dress shoes, etc. It won’t necessarily waterproof the shoes, but it does add a layer or two of protection from dirt, dust, water, etc. If you’re needing for your shoes to be waterproofed or water repellent, then there are other items for that on the market. We carry several on our website and in-store. Tarrago Nano Protector is a really good water repellent, and Saphir Dubbin is a great waterproofer.
@@TrentonHeath wonderful! Thanks for the tip. Saphir Dubbin then, great. These are boots from chrome tanned hides, should I go through the steps you showed here in the vid as well, or will it be enough to just use the Saphir Dubbin then?
Would this apply to leather sneakers as well such as Jordan 1’s? I know the leather is no where near the same quality as the boots you speak about but I want to take care of them as much as possible.
I just bought a pair of double monkstrap boots , cognac museum from Meermin. I don't know exactly what to call the look but to me it looks like blotches in the color, would you recommend treating the shoes the same as a patina, to just use a good conditioner or the saphir renavatur??
I own several pairs of Frye boots, some made with heavy patina and some with stonewashed leather with heavy scuffs in the toes from the factory. The look really cool but I can't find anything on how to protect either without ruining the appearance. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
Great video! Question, I bought a brand new pair of black shoes and used Saphir Renovateur on them brand new out of the box and I noticed a bit of black paint residue on the gloves I was using to apply it. Is that normal?
awesome video... should you condition a few times before wearing or before applying cream or wax? And does leaving the conditioner on (vs. buffing it off immediately) help it to sink in?
I love how you educate your viewers, not just trying to sell products and telling people to use this and apply multiple coats of this and that when its not even needed. Keep up the good work guys. Thank you very much
Thanks, Bruce! We’re glad you’re enjoying!
These videos make me realize how much I need to step up my shoe game. Thank you!
I'm glad I found these videos before purchasing a pair of good leather boots really prepared me for how to take care of them
You? Shooooot, me too & I have. Thought I was doing something.
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Same here
I’m right there with you on that.
Going through a tough time. So taking care of myself and going fully gentleman look is my goal now. Cleaning my bedroom and organizing my stuff has been my therapy. Clothes as well as shoes are my next addition to that therapy.
And yeah, discovering these videos really takes things into a certain perspective.
5. Turn your shoe bags inside out. Stitching can scratch mirror shine.
I learned that from the Elegant Oxford...
yeah same goes for underwear...
Some people will say any old shyte to have a unique hot take.
You guys are full of it! Some people need to maintain a mirror shine because of their jobs. It's a pain in the ass to repair a scratched mirror shine! Why not do something that can prevent the scratch in the first place??
J. A., thanks for the tip!! I've got one for you: Have a stitcher sew some cotton flannel bags for you, with the nap facing out. That way, when you invert the bag, the nap will be against your shoes!
@@brookeggleston9314 Haha! What job requires a pair of mirror shined shoes???
@@mikewilton4872 Obviously not one that you would be able to fill! Aside from the military and police, some EMTs wear highly polished shoes. Some positions in high finance require mirror shines. It all depends on company policy. If the boss wants it, you do it, or you work elsewhere. You don't seem to be concerned about your appearance, so I hope you're independently wealthy!
1. Conditioner
2. Shoe cream (optional)
3. Wax
4. Shoe trees
Tanks
Thanks
Maria Ayala Snacks.
Fanks mate
Actually, it should be 1. Shoe trees. Then the rest!
This is the best vid. Yes always condition straight out of the box. You also explain the difference between conditioner, cream and wax. A lot of other vids dont. Thanks!
Erik Thank you! We appreciate you watching.
More useful practical information by these guys. No fluff, just good common sense material that can be used by everyone. Thanks guys. Looks like I have to do more shopping on your web site.
Order placed. When do you get more Hussard in?
This man exudes passion for shoes and its a pleasure to see someone so passionate
Thanks for the education about shoe care and shoe construction. I bought my first really quality shoes (Allen Edmonds) in 1985. I thought they were expensive at the time. I ended up having them resoled five times and getting regular wear out of them for over 12 years. And I didn't know enough to condition them when they were new. If I had . . . I might still be wearing them. But those shoes taught me to pay up and cry once, then smile for a decade. I was also amazed at how comfortable a dress shoe could be for wearing 12 or 14 hours a day. As a result of these videos I am buying some Potter & Sons and Saphir products from your site.
Excellent advice from Heath, as always.
At the risk of gilding the lily, if I could add just a bit to #4: Immediately after buying a new pair, one of two things should ALWAYS be in your shoes - either your feet, or your shoe trees.
I wish these mail order internet brands would just ship them with trees in them if you want to pay for that. I got an order of three shoes and three trees, it would have been nice to have them in there for shipping. I take them out of the box, condition them, and put the trees in.
Very impressed with the website. Shipping and delivery were super quick and the packaging was impecable. Will buy again.
If possible, would you do a video on shoe trees. For example, I understand cedar shoe trees are best but what is a good/bad/ugly/over priced shoe tree. Thanks for educating on proper shoe care.
Harold Andrews Yep, we’ll definitely do a video on shoe trees. 👍🏻
Always sun out your shoe tree, they obsorbed moisture, so they become new again for the purpose.
It's best to buy trees with the shoes. High end shoes such as bespoke and John Lobb's ready to wear will come with a proper-fitting last similar to the last the shoes were made on as will some higher mid-range shoes and boots.
A well-fitting shoe tree is best, whatever the material. Any other shoe tree is next to pointless.
If they are not a snug fit under the complete vamp and into the heel curve then you may have to file and/or build up your trees to fit shoes with old leather nailed or bonded onto the trees similar to what bespoke lastmakers do when a customer returns after a period of time for a new pair of shoes.
Cedar does absorb moisture which is why it's lovely to creosote, oh and used for shoe trees. It is prone to splitting though which is something to be aware of if you have to pin or bond leather to it to build out your trees.
Extreme dry wet cycles splits cedar. Don't use trees to dry out shoes - sit them on their side for good air circulation around the soles and let them dry naturally.
Beech is sometimes used for shoe trees. Though it's less durable I prefer cedar for it's odour and I can apply cedar oil once a year
Just ordered some saphir cream in Bordeaux from y'all to give my black Park Aves a little color kick and to protect them.
I wouldn't have known about the cream and shoe maintenance without you and your videos. Thank you
Just got my first pair of Allen Edmonds Bartletts because of this channel. I've never spent more that $60 on a pair of shoes before.
Shoot, until I was 8 years old or so, I didn't even have shoes. Grew up really poor and all that.
These are the most comfortable things I've ever put on my feet. I don't want to take them off.
Thanks, Y'all.
I have a few Beckett Simonon shoes so this is perfect for me. You guys are gonna get big. Absolutely love what you guys do!
Thanks, Demetrios!
Thanks I literally just got a new pair two days ago and haven't worn them yet so perfect timing!
I am amazed how interesting I find your channel. You guys are artisans. I really enjoy the work boot renovations. I would like to suggest a video similar to this one but for work boots. Keep the videos coming and when my boots need renovating, I know where I'll be sending them.
Yall make some good videos. heavy on the informative and interesting, light on the BS. Never thought shoes would be this interesting.
Christopher Pratt Haha...thank you very much! We appreciate you watching.
They look like my Barker double monk-straps once upon a time! After 10 years of hard graft, they look really tired. Thanks to your videos I am learning how to restore them.
I really enjoy your channel. I am an old (and I mean old) Vandy baseball player (from Chattanooga) who is now living in Cleveland, Ohio. So, hearing you guys chat it up with the Nashville/Southern accent is very soothing and comforting to me! I just received a new pair of shoes for my birthday. And I am wearing them to church tonight. Getting ready to put Saphir Renovateur and Saphir Wax on them before I go. Then... shoe trees! Thanks for the advice. When I get back for a VandyBoys reunion, I'll have to bring some shoes that need repair to you guys!
Rick, thank you very much for the comment! That’s really neat to hear you played for Vandy! Any time you’re back in the Nashville area, feel free to stop in and visit. Enjoy those shoes. 😉
@@TrentonHeath You bet. And by the way, I played during 2 seasons for the Nashville Sounds, too! Love me some Nashville!
I bought some nice quality shoes at auction and they are great, some nearly new. I agree shoe trees are very important but I scrimped on them because they are pricey ($25-$30 pair). In the meantime I put some cheap plastic ones in them that sort of work to keep the shape but they are not as good as cedar wood ones. I am checking auction-discount sites and buying cedar ones when I find good deals.
I"m prior military, and I've been using Kiwi shoe polish (neutral or an appropriate color) for years on my shoes, and occasionally other leather projects. I've been seeing a lot of people going with Saphir lately, and I"m guessing it's better. Can you say anything about how/why it's better?
Thanks!
(Been watching your vids for a month or two now, and they are really great. I do leatherwork, and seeing your work on various shoes, it's really fun to watch, and informative!)
It's much better! It's also pricey, but it goes a long way, and it's worth every penny. You won't find any petroleum products in Saphir; it's all natural. Petroleum products are not good for leather products. I think T and H have a video of a pair of shoes that had been polished with Kiwi for at least a decade, but never conditioned. When they stripped the wax off, they found severe cracks in the leather of the upper. There was no way to repair it. If the owner had used a Saphir conditioner - there are several - a few times a year, he might still be wearing those shoes! I figure, if you have a pair of shoes or boots that you care enough to repair, you care enough for Saphir!
It seems to me there are very few leather nourishing/sealing/protecting products that don't darken/change the colour of lighter shoes, such as tan shoes. I have even found that each subsequent application darkens the leather even more, so the colour of the shoe changes quite dramatically over time, this is something of a challenge in shoe care i find.
First thing I do when I get a NEW pair of shoes is get shoe trees for them. Cedar is best. If I'm replacing an old pair of shoes I'll use the existing trees for them. And ALWAYS keep them in bags and the boxes so they don't get beat up in the closet.
Great solid advice. I need to look you guys up. I’m a Nashville native and local living downtown with a slight shoe problem (35+ pairs). Be nice to have a local place to pick up Saphir.
Nashville natives are a rare breed these days.
wish you also showed how to apply all of them
I just bought my first pair of "nice shoes" Standard finish. Renovatuer was stripping off brown - it was on my fingers and polishing cloth, the leather looked to have very slight uneven color in a few small spots afterwards. I strongly recommend on new shoes of any kind you use a pure cream as mentioned and not a cream/cleaner. It is not worth the risk.
Thank you for confirming all the steps which I already do. Great video. 👍👍👍
I love this channel, so glad to have stumbled on this gem of a channel!
A review of Church's and Crockett & Jones would be GREATLY appreciated!
You considering a pair or need validation?
I've messed up patina on my tan shoes with the renovateur. Wish I've seen that video a month ago.
All other channels are really pushing the renovateur hard without mentioning this side effect.
2:57 - I like the natural look of the leather, too. Renovateur
Thank you for sharing, could not remember the sequence. So been able to follow and apply all that is mentioned, all good!
Just got 2 pairs of Beckett Simonon shoes and watched this video immediately.
Be careful when pushing in the heel end of the tree; it can catch on the rim of the upper and damage it if forced
Continues to be one of my favorite Channels. Amazing, functional stuff. Your channel has not only earned my sub, but I’ll be bringing my shoes to Nashville the next time I visit the in-laws to give you my business.
Nice I kind of do the same, I do not care so much about the fabric finishing, I want to give my shoes a good start. Then I do not have to overkill it. People think I polish my shoes a lot tough 😂
I basicly brush them of 30 sec after every use, and put trees in them. If they are dirty like a little mudd, I vipe them of with a very damp cloth. If scuffs I put on a little bit of dark polish. Ocasionaly I put some renovature mainly on the creeses, do the edges and polis them allaround.
Theses guys should so start making their own boot line!
I really appreciate these tips, thank you! Especially the difference between the conditioners.
I would love see a show on how to take care of suede shoes?
👍 That's exactly what I do to my new shoes.
This is really helpful! Thank you!❤️
I just used Renovateur and Invulner on my new Thursdays. I'm hoping that's enough. I want to keep these for a looong time. I'm skipping the shoe trees, though. I love the way these look when they get beat up.
Thanks guys
This is a perfect, short-and-sweet summary. Appreciate you guys!
It seems that many believe natural shoe polish/wax shouldn't be used. Is this sage advice? If so, what wax would one use for a nice pair of white leather sneakers?
Also, how often is it recommended to clean, condition, and polish one's shoes in order to reap the benefits, without overdoing it and potentially ruining the shoes?
Skeptastic Glad you enjoyed! Most of the Saphir line of shoe creams/waxes are primarily natural ingredients, and they’re some of the best polishes on the market.
In regards to white leather sneakers, I’d recommend just a good shoe conditioner. Again, most of the Saphir conditioners would work. If you want to add a slight shine, you could add a shoe cream. Creams will also add some conditioners and mild waxes to the leather.
How often you apply it depends upon how often you wear the shoes. If you wear them frequently, applying conditioner and/or cream once every couple of weeks or so would keep the shoes in great shape.
@@TrentonHeath Appreciate the reply. Thank you!
Great information I will get my Beckett Simonon this month can’t wait I will use this information thanks keep up the work
Just found your channel, and I'm loving it! Can you deconstruct a pair of mezlans? I love the brand because I think they're beautiful shoes. However, no one has an in-depth review of the brand. Thanks!
Okay Trenton and Heath you got me,I am a new subscriber.
Thanks
Maybe you've already done this but it's escaped my searches, but can you do one comprehensive video about all the Saphir product line and how and when to use them. No, I'm not associated with the brand but recognize they make, arguably, the premier shoe care products. Before I discovered your channel and excellent videos, I watched several on the Kirby Allison channel. No disrespect to him, but he illustrates shining shoes wearing a white dress shirt with cufflinks and with the laces still in the shoes. What a difference after seeing your expert understanding and even eviscerating shoes that look like they were retrieved from a compost heap and transforming them into better than new masterpieces! Yes, my bad. Anyway, I decided to to up my shoe maintenance game and sent for a raft of Saphir products even ordering them from a retailer in Canada since they had a few items I couldn't locate here in the states online. I'm sure I was naive and ordered way more than I actually needed and spent an embarrassing amount on my order. Can you please show your 127k subscribers the correct sequence of use and sort out the confusing array of products. Yes, you did mention that in this video, but an even more comprehensive video would be appreciated now that you will be my new supplier of Saphir. With thanks! You brothers are the real deal. Never thought I'd be spending hours binging shoe videos, as if I'd just discovered, Game of Thrones or a must see Netflix series!
Another phenomenal video
Very very very very very nice I like it I’m working in men’s shoes and I have good information about that
Great advise! Love the channel. Keep it going.
Very informative video 👍 I forwarded it to my buddy for his just started to get into the world of well constructed shoes.
Love it!
I have 1 question. If I have shined my shoes using the polishing wax, can I apply the conditioner directly on the shoes or should I remove the polishing wax layer before applying the conditioner? Thank you.
Great TH-cam videos' I have learned so much about shoes and what to look for. I realized that I have been pretty much been purchasing average to junky shoes. I have really no use to buy Allen Edmonds and other high quality shoes. But I have followed your videos and learned what to look for in a well built shoe in the near luxury brands. Have purchase 2 pair of Merchanti Fiorentini's a burgundy wholecut and a Navy Cap Toe that appear to be very well made these are in the $150 price point. My 3 pair which totally surprise me was a black ElANROMAN Cap Toe that has a Blake stitched sole at an amazing price of $100. Not over concerned about their longevity since I work from home, but we go out or I have to go out of town to a client site I always want to look my best. And it is very true you can tell a lot about someone by their shoes. How they look, if they are cheap, and how they are kept.
I bought an expensive pair of leather protective toe work boots and was looking for ways to break them in. I never knew this whole shoe world existed, lol. Now it's in my algorithm.
Hello, I love your content. I'm currently awaiting the arrival of my first good pair of shoes (Carmina black cap-toe Oxfords)! This was very helpful as I want to take great care of them so they last for years. Do you have any thoughts on different types of shoe trees? Is it worth it to get lasted trees from the manufacturer? Spring tension vs the screwed type, best types of wood, etc.? Thank you!
Reminisce the time i washed my Patrick Cox that I brought from Selfridges in the shower’ because I needed a matt texture..
Regretted it and would never do that today! but there still around all 25 years old still looking new..
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Love the shoes!
In addition to using shoe trees (which is the first thing you should get when buying shoes), purchase some shoe boxes. The Container Store sells them and I have them for all of my shoes.
Very good info-Thank you!
I use newspaper rolled up into balls in place of shoe trees. Works for me. 😁
Straight to the point, thank you! Quick question, what's the best way to get rid of those small scratches (in both leather and outer sole sides) that appear as a result of the use?
Just received a pair of Becket Simonon shoes. Very useful video for making sure these shoes last a long long time. It also pains me to know yall are going to cut up such a special product lol
l could watch Heath all day .. l love his accent! Such a cutie!
Chase M Actually l love Southern accents of any nature
Chase M I lived in Atlanta for years and l find the accent charming .. l know and love Southerners .. in many ways they are gentle, kind, smart and open-hearted although a few are still angry they lost the war of Northern Aggression ..
does this apply to work boots as well, like Red Wings?
Any advice on how to determine if the shoe tree is too tight in the shoe (aside from the obvious of it kot fitting at all)? Like if it barely squeezes in, is there any fear of stretching out the shoe?
Did you ever get any answer? I always wonder the same thing.
@@glumberty1check the size chart of the tree. The more snug the fit, the better. The springs in adjustable shoe trees aren't strong enough to deform the shoe lasting/shape of dress shoes. If you have unstructured shoes like moccasin construction loafers or boat shoes, you might see some deformation in the toe box (so maybe opt for single piece vamp trees, not split toe), but this isn't an issue with dress shoes or shoes with toe puffs/countering. Nicer trees are lasted and hinged, not spring loaded, but they are pricey and model/shoe specific, but you want the tree to be under more tension, not less, to straighten the vamp and sole back out to counter the effect of you walking on the shoes.
DOOOOOPPPEE video! 🔥💯💯😎
Thanks for another great video.
For me the winner is clear wax. I wax my leather boots that i wear daily ( in Canada ) around once a monte to protect from calcium. Making shure to clean it before reaplying to avoid layering
Thank you. Just got my first pair of expensive leather shoes. I'd never even heard of a shoe tree. Now I'm wondering where to get one from...
Geckomayhem Hey! Congrats on the higher quality shoes. If you take care of them, they’ll last so much longer. We also sell shoe trees on our website...potterandsons.com/products/cedar-shoe-trees
Garage sales, estate sales, flea markets, ebay are all good sources for shoe trees, in addition to Heath & Trenton. FWIW they have a great website, too. And in a pinch, you can use tissue paper or newspaper.
@@gkelly941 please don't use newspaper, it retains moisture and can bleed ink in to your shoes.
You suggest wearing at home first in case we need to return. You also say to condition first to prevent creases and cracks. If we condition, there are warnings that the leather could darken a bit. Are the shoes still returnable after applying conditioner? same question if I go have them stretched to fit better in the toe area.
Obviously, you’ll need to figure out whether or not you’re going to keep the shoes before you condition them or stretch them. Most places won’t take them back if you’ve done anything to the shoes.
@TrentonHeath That is what I thought, but if I wear them inside during the return period without conditioning first, they are subject to that big crease wrinkle across the top of the shoes where the toes bend.
@@jyobaccio1that happens over time with hundreds and thousands of repeat flexing of the toe. You'll know quickly if they don't fit properly, no need to walk miles inside your house so you should not crease the toe that quickly, especially with higher quality leather. Try them on, walk around your house for a few minutes while doing a fit assessment, and decide to keep or exchange. It's not something that takes days or weeks imo.
Once you have done a complete regiment (leather conditioner, cream, and then wax), how do I maintain the shoe? Do I have to strip everything off and then re-apply or can I keep adding layers of wax every few months?
Thanks, guys. Another great video. I just got a pair of Beckett Simonon oxfords last week and haven’t worn them yet so this vid is perfect for me. I have a question for you, though. What do you guys think of Venetian Leather Balm? I have some for the Thursday Boots I own. Thanks again.
Scott Veatch Venetian Leather Balm has been around for a long time. It’s also good stuff.
Would you treat leather soles? Either with conditioner or waterproofing?
If the new boot is stiff can I put the cream in the inside instead of the outside? I don't want to alter the color of the boot.
Haha, say goodbye to your Saphir commercial. I always piss on the leather like people have done for ages :)
Idk how true this is but this cobbler from John Lobb says he uses maguiars leather protector for protection and xpress spray wax for maintenance shine.
Can you do a video on beginner shoes for under $150
Should I waterproof new leather boots before I wear them? If so, do I condition leather first and then spray on the waterproofer? Or just waterproof the boots?
Should we do anything to prepare the leather soles? I realize they can be replaced, but they can also be ruined with one unfortunate rain storm. Would you ever apply a waterproofing or conditioner to leather soles?
I just saw that you guys have a ship-in resole service. I'm in East TN and a cobbler in Knoxville screwed up a pair of 1000 Mile's and did shoddy work on some AE Independence line. Now I'm afraid to take my nice dress shoes anywhere. I'll strongly consider shipping to you guys when the time comes.
@@AaronHousefly I'd prefer not to say, as maybe my experience was a one-off. There are at least three cobblers in town.
Each type of leather has its pros and cons. Preparation and maintenance of calfskin is why I avoid them. My dress shoes are all custom cordswained in ostrich. Ostrich leather is 2 1/2 times stronger than calf, you never shine, condition, or moisturize it, the entire hide is nothing but one, big countless number of imperfections and so you don’t worry at all about scuffing, and the only maintenance at all is periodically wiping them with a damp cloth; that’s it! I even penciled up the design of two of my pairs for a real bespoke feeling!
I just stumbled across this channel and I'm really happy I did, this is great advice! I just have one question though, will the wax also make it waterproof or water repellent? Or is there a different product that can help with this?
Hi! We’re happy you stumbled upon our channel! Wax is a nice thing to use, sparingly, on dress shoes, etc. It won’t necessarily waterproof the shoes, but it does add a layer or two of protection from dirt, dust, water, etc. If you’re needing for your shoes to be waterproofed or water repellent, then there are other items for that on the market. We carry several on our website and in-store. Tarrago Nano Protector is a really good water repellent, and Saphir Dubbin is a great waterproofer.
@@TrentonHeath wonderful! Thanks for the tip. Saphir Dubbin then, great. These are boots from chrome tanned hides, should I go through the steps you showed here in the vid as well, or will it be enough to just use the Saphir Dubbin then?
Good video can u give recommendations on other conditioners, wax etc.
"Y'all" is one of my favorite words too.
What’s the best way to take off the old sole protector when needing to add a new?
Would this apply to leather sneakers as well such as Jordan 1’s? I know the leather is no where near the same quality as the boots you speak about but I want to take care of them as much as possible.
I just bought a pair of double monkstrap boots , cognac museum from Meermin. I don't know exactly what to call the look but to me it looks like blotches in the color, would you recommend treating the shoes the same as a patina, to just use a good conditioner or the saphir renavatur??
What about a water proffer?
Explain what Neatsfoot oil does and how to use it.
I own several pairs of Frye boots, some made with heavy patina and some with stonewashed leather with heavy scuffs in the toes from the factory. The look really cool but I can't find anything on how to protect either without ruining the appearance. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
Hmm.. the monk strap shoes that you have as an example in this video (Beckett Simonon) is beautiful. Is that Oak or Tan color, I'm curious.
Could you add shipping to New Zealand on your website?
Great video! Question, I bought a brand new pair of black shoes and used Saphir Renovateur on them brand new out of the box and I noticed a bit of black paint residue on the gloves I was using to apply it. Is that normal?
awesome video... should you condition a few times before wearing or before applying cream or wax? And does leaving the conditioner on (vs. buffing it off immediately) help it to sink in?
When I wax new shoes for the first time is the neutral color wax ok or do I needed a colored wax? What about for subsequent waxings?
is it okay to use renovateur on a new pair of black shoes before break-in?
Should shoes or boots be conditioned before or after polishing?
Meermin is better than Beckett Simonon right?