Marco Antonio Regil He doesn't. He read his TH-cam analytics and figured that he stands to lose a chunk of followers with his anti nikon rants. So now he softly adds in negative stuff like "not so cheap feeling, cheap feeling lens hood". And "why nikon first launched 1.8 lenses first". As if the market buys more 1.2s vs 1.8s.
@@mainmain5303 It would be a good sign I only viewed this one because it was of specific interest. I don't care for the hype of these channels anymore where everyone is whining about certain features of a camera mirrorless cameras. While you will get great results from any system modern system you buy today and no one can shoot without a good Eye AF system when people and pros have been doing it for decades. 🤷♂️
kelsier rayner exactly! Since when did eye af become THE thing in camera (and not image quality or dynamic range or built quality/ long term durability and reliability)??? Since Sony started marketing eye af and put money in the hands of Influencers after they failed with their crappy phones all over the world! And the Influencers will keep telling you "they haven't paid me"! Haha the online marketing game begins with "Influencer plan". That's the first section of the teams presentation.
@@mainmain5303 I guess you're right. I wasn't thinking about that. He actually lost me. I stopped following him and other TH-camrs precisely because of this. Thank you for opening my eyes.
The cool thing about the new Z mount and Z lenses is that you don't really need to step down a 1.8 lens to 2.8 to get a sharp image. 1.8 is already pretty sharp. Most lenses at 1.2 and 1.4 you have to step down to get the sharpness you need. 85 1.8 Z is already sharp at its max aperture. The price is also pretty good. I am getting one.
I tried out a couple expensive lenses and out of all of them I thought the sigma 105 mm F1.4 was the sharpest lens I have used. But this new Nikon 85 mm F1.8 S is the cats meow and it is just as sharp. I guess I got lucky I found it on Amazon a week before Christmas for 650 bucks. But I think it’s worth every penny
@@sottosopra4769 The D G F lenses are all softer at 1.8 than the Z lens at 1.8, in fact, you need to go up to about 2.8 before the same sharpness in the corners can be matched. Second;y there is literally ZERO Chromatic aberration, the D G F lenses have a massive amount of fringing wide open. Lastly the Z lens of the new nikons have 5 axis of stabilization, the other lenses only have 3 axis of stabilization. The price point is great, the older D lens has no motor, so its manual. THERE IS SOO MUCH YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON SO MUCH PROS for only missing 3/4 of a stop of light
@@sottosopra4769 the question is does it perform cheap? And the answer is NO, it actually beats the shit out of the more expensive ones. And Sony has 1.8 lenses that are more expensive than this one. So 1.8 is not longer a waste of money. Special Nikon 50mm 1.8 s that outperforms Nikon F, Sony and Canon 50mm 1.4 and 1.8 and it comes very close to the Lord of all 50s the Zeiss Otus 55mm f1.4.
I’m just about to pull the trigger on a Z6. Sooooooo close . I have the d810 , 500 and 850 . The 35 f/1.8 and 85,1.8 are the first S lenses I’ll get . I have tons of f mount glass that I’ll adapt first . Love the Nikon “look” .
That 50mm S lens is amazing and I am not even a 50mm person. I would say that is the best in the line up and highly recommend it. You can shoot at F/1.8 on that thing all day everyday beautifully sharp with great fall off.
Jump into the Z system with both feet. (You'll be glad you did) I got my first Z (Z6) a year ago. It came with the Z 24-70 4 S and I could not stop shooting with it. That was before I started buying primes followed by the Z 70-200 2.8 S. I don't know why, I have been shooting Nikons for decades. But the Z is off the scale. It is that good.
I picked up the new 85 mm f1.8S and I am blown away on how sharp it is. Compared to the 85mm F1.8g adapted in my Z6 the 85mm G lens @f2.8 gets almost as sharp as the new 85mm f1.8S @f1.8. that's insane. The eye AF works a lot faster. I really like it. I would say it's as sharp as the Sigma 105mm f1.4. I recommend it.
@@sottosopra4769 I paid 500$ new for the 85mm f1.8G and $600 new for the 85mm f1.8S on sale the week before Christmas. And I would pay retail for the 85 z after using it and comparing it to the 85g. Yes it's that much better. Eye AF is quicker and focus speed is faster all around.
@@atalkhir I picked up that lens right around Christmas on Amazon. And I only buy from Amazon warehouse because half the retailers are selling gray market lenses. But I switched over to Sony since then and I still have my Nikon Z 50 with the 85 & 50mm F1.8 S has my all around Camera. But the sharpest 85mm in the market is the sigma 85mm f1.4 dg DN. Just too bad Nikon is it allowing third-party companies to fully make lenses for them
When I shoot families, portraits, events, it's my go to lens. The Z6 is also an amazing video camera. However I still rely on my D750 for weddings for which that two card slot I've not been able to let go, and the lickity fast C-AF for wildlife. Good video Jared.
I have been using a Nikon D700 and D3 for events! done stuff all over the place last year! nobody has issues with my pictures! the older stuff still works :) I did think about the D750 but waiting to see how the D780 turns out? the D750 is a bargain these days!!! it is solid for Wedding/fashion/studio work :)
@@Gibson1976uk Glad, I am not the only one still sporting a D700. I have three of them that I use for weddings. I have never had anyone complain either. The Z system will be my next upgrade though.
It's hilarious that you have to disclose that you use nikon for video. People do get that triggered that you use sony for stills now. Brand loyalty destroying photography by the second.
@Mason lab brand loyalty triggering people to the point that the photography community starts arguing about what brand to use is IMO dividing what is IMO one of the most amazing artistic communities.
Jared you are wrong :D ... i know you love 1.2 glas but for the actual Z cameras the 1.8 fits perfectly and $2500 glas would not make sense for it. In the end of 2020 Nikon will deliver their first pro Z Bodys + pro lenses ...that's a good plan from Nikon. Canon delivered a consumer RF cameras + pro RF lenses ---> that's stupid :D
I agree, most people, including pro's!! will not need/use F1.2 lenses!! I do photography jobs and my workhorse lens has been the Nikon 85mm F1.8G!! its made me money!!! :) nobody complains :) I do own a Zeiss 85mm F1.4 but thats manual, I'll use it for certain things! if you go for F1.2 the price goes crazy! would you want to spend your earnings on that costs so much?? people really are not that bothered if you don't have F1.2 for a job :)
@@Gibson1976uk I think the Z6 and Z7 was never desiged to be PRO bodys! They are well-rounded "prosoumer" cameras and the 1.8F Z lenses fit perfectly for them.
This is the best 85mm I ever used, better than the F mount 85mm 1.4, it is near flawless and priced competitively. These 1.8 Z primes are amazing, and with limited focus breathing. The dual motor is fast, and as a bonus it is a blast on the z50. Attention, Sony Northrup, sorry to inform you full frame lenses work perfectly on crop bodies. So far I have the 14-30 4 24-70 2.8 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 and all of those are the best in their class. These are perfect for hybrid cameras, and now that Nikon has RAW video they are leading in video. Nikon is back to creating the best lenses on the market, so far all the new z lenses perform incredible.
Alien Drone Services I had the a7iii with the 55 1.8, 85 1.8 and the 24-70 2.8 gm and the Nikon z equivalents are all shaper wide open, with less CA distortion and vignette.
The lens snob finally found time to review this lens.. Well I bought it before the review and it's an awesome portrait lens of course, but not as amazing and versatile as the 50mm S F/1.8 I don't think anyway I haven't used it enough to fully say though.
@@froknowsphotoI'm surprised you'd respond to this comment. You admit yourself about whining about S lines small apertures thus lens snob. If there was any hate is that you can afford to have all the best gear, but you mentioned you had this lens before it was released and then did a bunch of Sony reviews and finally got around to this one three months later and that's why I made this comment. 🤷♂️
Maybe people wouldn't call you a shill if you didn't forcibly remind us all the time that you're using Sony and their superior lineup in a goddamn lens review.
I am sick and tired of all of this gear obsession and am finding it all rather dull, why do you feel you have to justify what you’re using? I’ve always said I don’t care what gear anyone uses because it’s what you can do with it that really matters (nudge nudge wink 😉) Personally, I think it’s not badly priced considering the age of the old Nikon glass and if you compare it to let’s say a Sony FE 85mm it’s not much more but still considerably cheaper than 1.4. I think that Nikon will produce 1.2Z glass rather than 1.4
Fro and other sites are probably not “obsessed” with gear; rather, they are competing for clicks and viewers. Attracting and entertaining gearheads seems easier than getting traditional photographers. I’ve begin to suspect that a many are more interested in camera and lens specs than photography. Personally, I think this hullabaloo about the f1.8 not being f1.x is silliness, more about specs than photography, but I’m aware others disagree.
I think the reason Nikon chose to do 1.8 versions first, is they are what the average (enthusiast) will use and they aren't absurdly expensive in most cases (although the 50 1.8 S is a bit higher-priced than I'd like--I feel sometimes it's more like a $399 lens but considering a 50 1.8G is still around $200, maybe $599 isn't too far off--just 2x the price but the optics are better comparatively). That being said, I think many pros will just adapt their 1.4's to their Z cameras (or just wait to upgrade to Z when Nikon does start releasing fast 1.4's). Nikon is just trying to catch up to everyone else (mainly Sony) in the prime lens dept, and since they had to basically re-design all the Z lenses, this takes time, so they wanted to create the lens that they knew most people would buy. To me, as an enthusiast, who doesn't really get a return on investment, the 1.8's offer great value/quality at a price point I can manage. To me, the little extra bokeh or gains you get from going to a 1.4 isn't justifiable financially (for my needs). This being said, my Z 85 1.8 has become my new favorite portrait lens, and sadly, I've been using it way more than my adapted Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 lens (which I'm thinking about selling now because I've been shooting strictly with the 85 for the past few months now and love the results, not to mention the size and weight). (One big issue for me with the 70-200 is shooting verticals because Nikon didn't have enough foresight into creating a proper grip w/ controls for the Z6/Z7 bodies... which is a huge fail on their part). My hope is the "rumored" z6s/z7s have this option when released (as I would greatly upgrade my Z6 to a new Z6 body if it supported a vertical grip with controls). But shooting with the 85, this isn't as much of a concern because it's so small and light. I just find it difficult to use proper technique when shooting vertically with my 70-200 on the Z without a vertical grip. Can be done, but not as pleasant because of the size and weight of a 70-200 lens.
Looking at your gig photo settings I wish I could shoot at more gigs with good lighting, so many local venues don't seem to care at all about lights so I'm at setting like 6400 ISO f2.8 1/160. And still bumping them up in post Noisey and blurry great!
demorris byrd give nikon some time to make a good mirrorless and he will return... as a Sony shooter I know it’s only a matter of time because canon and nikon are catching up fast and sony is also sleeping after the a7iii (2 year ago)
Going for the 50mm as my tax return Christmas gift to myself and my friend and I shoot together and he has the Z 50 so our next step is splitting cost on the 24-70mm 2.8
I love your stuff Jared and Crew, but that was a little like watching someone struggling for possession of their own mind whilst being possessed by Jason Lanier :)
When the f1.2 or f1.4 Z mount lenses will be released, this will cost half, because that is the real price. Same for the other f1.8 Z lenses that cost double.
@@froknowsphoto I know ;) I was referring to other key capabilities like continuous autofocus for those that need subject tracking, detailed 4k, color accuracy...,
I been shooting Nikon for many years, loyal based here. Or maybe just a lot invested in F mount glass. I use different 3rd party lenses and a a few Zeiss lenses. My 135mm app sonnar,which is very close to the otis line have always been in my bag paired with my D850 and it gives amazing results. I have bought a Z 7ii and my first z lens is this 85/ 1.8. I have to say it ranks up there towards the Zeiss wide open and today was the first day in a long, long time I never had the Zeiss in my bag. Really liking this lens
I prefer also Z prime lenses but still using 85 1.4 F mount for portraits. I haven’t tried this lens but I guess it might be like 50 1.8 Z which is fabulous. Love your Nikon lens review....you will surely come back to Nikon completely! I believe I deserve some answers to my comments, I watch each and every video and follow you on IG!
That’s cool. You have no doubt. And I have no doubt you have no clue what you’re talking about. So there’s that. The ignorance of commenters like you is insane. You have no clue.
@@froknowsphoto Dude, your are posting toxic comments filled videos about Nikon for the the last one year or so while at the same time going out of way to praise Sony. Nobody does that kind of marketing for free for a big corporation like Sony. You are doing that in videos like above that has nothing to do with Sony.
@@uxo2255 I don't know if you're a troll or this incompetent. The Z6 focuses better than my D750 which had a stellar AF system. Because a camera doesn't have the best Eye AF doesn't obsolete how people and professionals have been focusing for decades... There are several focus options and configurations you can use to get the focus you need not to mention the Eye AF has improved with a recent firmware update 2.10 🤷♂️
Man you don’t need to be that apologetic to Nikon. Your previous video was clear enough and you stated your reasons very respectfully. That should be enough. Great review btw.
I think his apologetic statements here are more geared towards his Die-hard Nikon fans. Man he got so much hate on that video from them even though he was just being honest about his thoughts towards the current models Nikon has. Some of the people suddenly got mad just because he thought that the current systems sony has are better than the ones from Nikon.
Plenty of social media and other Nikon pros (Nikon Ambassadors) out there making the switch for mirrorless systems. We contacted Sony to try and get an a7 III on loan with no luck. We have used the Z7 thru NPS which was great. We have too much invented in Nikon gear to make the switch now so are staying with DSLR. Wouldn't mind seeing what all the hype is with Sony tho. Thinking of purchasing a Sony at Best Buy and exercising the 30 day return policy?
Jared Polin better or more? I would like to know in what way the Sony cameras have given you “better” moments? That may make a good video to do. This is essentially saying - Yes - it is the camera that makes the photographer and not the other way round.
Jared always uses that Rock photo he took back in like 2000😁 I've never seen him at a show, festival or anything NorCal, SoCal, Vegas. Get back in the trenches Jared. You used to shoot skaters bro.
I have chance to try this badass lens and I really like it 😊 the "but" is really small but... But I like the sharpness and bokeh :O ... Just asking, did you have upgraded for RAW video?
Thx for your review...and to be honest, great that you have degraded your bash-everything-but-Sony-mode. It was a bit too much in the last videos. Welcome back 😉
Stop it. Don’t do back handed compliments. There’s no bash everything but Sony that’s a bullshit statement. I’ve shot Nikon since I was 15, so where were you over the first 9 years of Nikon Nikon Nikon on my TH-cam channel. Please think before saying that stuff
Hey Jared, no bashing...I was just mentioning that the tone of voice of your movies was a bit more harsh. I know you shoot with Nikon for years. Superb! And I have no problem with you making/adding a move to SONY. I love your channel not just for Nikon. It's about photography. So apologies if my 'compliment' reached you in a wrong way. Still love the channel 🙂
Old Jared: “my opinion is this lens sucks ass and here’s some very logical reasons why I think it is on a technical scale. That’s why I shoot with two brands of cameras to get the best results because I can afford it.” Broke ass photogs that have to be brand loyal: “WAAAAHHH BUT WAAAAHHH WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO US!?” New Jared: “I love all cameras and their results even if they take garbage shots please stop saying I’m brand loyal!” Everyone bitched so much that he got soft. Let him bash on your shit with his opinions he was entertaining and brought up some interesting things to consider when choosing a product. His channel shouldn’t be all about validating your affordable purchase.
Hope that nikon will make mirrorles camera with d5 made in japan build quality... Sony does not have made in japan quality model i belive people would not mind a thousand $ higher price for that long life quallity
How the engineers design the camera (material choice and the overall structure) made a camera sturdy not where is made... we are in 2020 you should know this...
Light Yagami I know that but some products are made in china, some are just assembled in china :) just kidding, you are right about that it is just cheaper way of making products in countries like china, indonesia etc. But knowing that i respect canon for making almost all of their gear nativly in japan. It really doesn’t metter :) cheers
Made in ChiNazi?! No way! Getaway from any made in China products and stand with HK! Hope all Camera manufacturers move to other countries in Asia such as Vietnam or Thailand rather than China. Of course made in Japan feels the best!
Nikon is pure Japanese Sony is sort of Japanese & American company y its important bcs Nikon is part own by one of the biggest conglomerate in the world.. Hehehe Mitsubishi both r historically very important for Japan its image & technical development of the country. Sony is just on opportunistic course.. Hehehe whatever brings cash. Sony lost battle with Samsung & others in TV long ago, than tried in cellphones again lost battle than Hollywood movies music real estate... Hehehe I think u guess where I'm going with it.. I don't think they will ever commit itself to expenses of establishing international service net the canikon has it. Sony has at present technological might in photo area but no production facilities. I don't bet on Sony future but being sure can count on nikon products & support even sometimes with some quirks. Competition is good.. Hehehe
I have a z50 and i am beginner. What lens do you recommend for portraits? Also what lens do you recommend for indoor basketball and lastly what lens do you recommend for outdoor American football. Please help. Thank you. Love the channel.
@@michealokafor5722 🤗 yes of course. Why do you think you shouldn't? You may use it on all Z cameras. On the APS-C Z's it's cropped to 127.5 mm equivalent (cropped!!!! not optically longer).
Can you just review the lens as is? I was looking for pros and cons of this lens and all I hear is - it's not 1.4! No other cons? Why fuss with 1.4 or 1.2? I know you need 1.4 as a pro, but its a lens review of a 85 1.8
nik hitterp it’s a missed opportunity for Nikon. The Z-mount enables lenses with wider aperture but they wasted time and money a 1.8while they could have made a 1.2 or 1.0 instead to give a lot more incentive for people to get a Z-series camera. Even if the 1.8 is better than the previous 1.8 from Nikon the obvious difference is not there to make people switch to the new mount. Even a lot of Z-mount users are using adapted lenses because of this.
@@phelanwolf6747 Its not that I cant understand his words in that respect. Im just curious why hes naming this video a 85mm 1.8s review, while nothing much is told about it.
I had z 85 mm. And ef version 85. 1.8 . 85mm 1.8 g lens is very good. But z 85mm is incredible . I can use 1.8 aperture and it is not soft. İt is sharp
To and FRO on the fence re Sony & Nikon , I have to laugh, I guess if I were you YouTubing, I'd also try and exploit both camera brands and keep playing one off against the other and if necessary I'll contradict myself if it keeps me in both camps! Because like many of your followers, I'm confused too, therefore I have to give you a thumbs down for this video. I suppose you are in a position where you are able to shoot both brands. Good luck Fro.
Nikon has made these new lenses ,and made so they will sell . A 1.4 would double the coast, it would be much bigger. Hats off to nikon for keeping the size and price down.Thumbs down to Sony , the lenses are too expensive and they weigh a ton,yes they are good ,but if you can't afford to buy them what good are they!
I love the primes pn the Z6! Ihave the 50mm f1,8 butt im not shure i want no buy the 24 and the 85...:\ what do you think? 24 mm 50mm and 85mm. Are they good for only 3 lensen in the Bag? The 24-70 2,8. VR i have for the D4 is too big for the Z6:/
Hey Jared, one question please...As a Fuji X-System landscape and product photographer, I am strongly contemplating moving into FF, with either a Nikon Z7 or a Sony a7Rlll. Two questions please...Does the Nikon Z (S Mount) System have a good Macro lens on par with the supposedly stellar Sony 90 f/2.8 G OSS Macro? (Though I'd put my Fujinon XF80 f/2.8 Macro against any macro in terms of image sharpness!) And, have you experienced a "sensor Dust" issue with any of your Sony bodies? Thank you sir! Steve
Just because a lens has a wider maximum aperture doesn't automatically make it "better glass." I don't believe you'll find a better 85 than the 85/1.8S. That's right, I said it.
Native Z primes are the way to go. As you said: they feel solid, are silent and weather sealed. Why get a Z camera if you're you are going to keep using the old F lenses with the adapter? I own a Z85mm 1.8 / S, I love it ! ! . What would be the difference/advantage if it was a f/1.4?
Happy New Decade everyone! Can you believe it that Santa did not leave either a Z6 or Z7 under the tree! He also failed to leave a 2020 Land Rover Defender in my driveway! I guess I'm going to have to keep building points on my USAA Visa.
if you are shooting concerts or nightlife photos, edit them in Capture one or something other than lightroom...lightroom renders the artificial light at high iso horribly and and more often you'll see harsh blown out lights.. espcially with blues and magentas...
85mm 1.8G Vs 85mm 1.8S Please rate both lenses out of 10 for photo and video? Because as per some reviews older version i.e 85mm 1.8G focuses faster than the newer S lens. S lens is more smoother
After learning a lot from you i have already used my D3400 enough since last 2 years. want to upgrade the body now. which one do you recommend, Sir.? BTW, I am an event photographer and a stock photography contributor
I almost always leave my FTZ adapter attached to my old 50mm 1.4 in the bag, seems like I use the big zooms on a DSLR still as its more comfortable to hold but this one is nice use
It's frustrating because the rumors touted the larger flange allowing for ridiculous f stops, and then nobody (not canon, not nikon, not sony) are making f1.0 lenses that I dreamed about. I need a WTF adapter to understand this.
I own a 85mm 1.8G, Im used with it with no VR on my D600 and paid full price for it, and it always surprises me with its sharpness, colors etc. Now coupled with the in camera Vr from the Z6 or Z7 why would I need 2/3 stop from the future 1.4Z if the 1.8Z is already so expensive ?? I'll take the adapter, thank you.
The whole section at 3:55 about not wanting to use the FTZ adapter....this is my problem with the reviews. I have zero problems with the FTZ adapter, it feels just like shooting native lenses to me. And they allow us to use the old lenses with giant pieces of glass, versus the weird new software-corrected tiny mirrorless lenses which work really well, but lack some of the character of the giant glass lenses of yesteryear. Just my 2 cents, it feels like the FTZ lens discussion is really excessive.
Also, why is anyone that excited about a 1.4 lens? These magical mirrorless big flanges were supposed to make f1.0 possible in an AUTOFOCUS lens. If it's not 1.0, I honestly am not that impressed. F 1.4 is the same shit we've had for like 70 years (I mean, I'm not that old but...70 years!) and we still can't move past that.
The point has nothing to do with the lenses not working fine. I love the adapter, it works. But when you're switching quickly between Z lenses and F lenses with the adapter you run into issues. Sometimes you take the whole adapter off when you meant to just take off the lens. Or you the lens off and want to but a z lens on and now you have to still take the adapter off. For what I shoot, I can't have it be that slow when im switching.
@@froknowsphoto That is definitely a fiddly and annoying situation, but two bodies and two lenses pretty much covers most stuff for most photographers. Any time you're taking lenses off cameras mid-shoot it totally sucks the fun out of the day. I hope my comment wasn't too negative, I really enjoy your videos and insights. And with so much out there, it's impossible for everyone to love every opinion all the time. Your avoidance of push back from nikon fanatics has been pretty impressive tbh. I think you have a future career in politics... ;)
I think it makes sense launching the 1.8 lenses first, because when the 1.4 and 1.2 ones come out, there will be people who will be like "this piece of glass is so nice, I'm gonna buy it".
I think it depends on the objective when selling. Is the objective to sell the 1.8 lenses and then sell the 1.4 lenses, then the 1.2 lenses and then the 1.0 to the same customers? Then yes it makes sense. But if your objective is to overwhelm the competition and outperform the F-mount with absolutely superior lenses, then it does not make sense. Outperforming the F-mount lenses by a big margin would make the Z-mount a lot more appealing for the current Nikon user base but also for customers from other vendors. Nikon going for the first option is understandable but I would have preferred the second option. Also I would like to see some Z-Mount tele-zoom lenses, currently there is only the one DX 50-250. The upcoming 70-200mm f/2.8 could be interesting.
Jared you know you love Nikon most of all. Your return to Nikon is inevitable. It is your destiny.
Time for a I shoot primes shirt?
Prime time
@@chuck2703 of your life
I'll start that channel
I love, love, love this lens!! I'm glad you still have Nikon in your heart!! =)
Marco Antonio Regil He doesn't. He read his TH-cam analytics and figured that he stands to lose a chunk of followers with his anti nikon rants. So now he softly adds in negative stuff like "not so cheap feeling, cheap feeling lens hood". And "why nikon first launched 1.8 lenses first". As if the market buys more 1.2s vs 1.8s.
@@mainmain5303 It would be a good sign I only viewed this one because it was of specific interest. I don't care for the hype of these channels anymore where everyone is whining about certain features of a camera mirrorless cameras. While you will get great results from any system modern system you buy today and no one can shoot without a good Eye AF system when people and pros have been doing it for decades. 🤷♂️
kelsier rayner exactly! Since when did eye af become THE thing in camera (and not image quality or dynamic range or built quality/ long term durability and reliability)??? Since Sony started marketing eye af and put money in the hands of Influencers after they failed with their crappy phones all over the world! And the Influencers will keep telling you "they haven't paid me"! Haha the online marketing game begins with "Influencer plan". That's the first section of the teams presentation.
@@mainmain5303 I guess you're right. I wasn't thinking about that. He actually lost me. I stopped following him and other TH-camrs precisely because of this. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Marco Antonio Regil I have stopped following too
The cool thing about the new Z mount and Z lenses is that you don't really need to step down a 1.8 lens to 2.8 to get a sharp image. 1.8 is already pretty sharp. Most lenses at 1.2 and 1.4 you have to step down to get the sharpness you need. 85 1.8 Z is already sharp at its max aperture. The price is also pretty good. I am getting one.
'But it's a one point eight' I knew this before get into this video
Own this lens; love it - image quality, sharpness, focusing speed, and handling - Excellent
I tried out a couple expensive lenses and out of all of them I thought the sigma 105 mm F1.4 was the sharpest lens I have used. But this new Nikon 85 mm F1.8 S is the cats meow and it is just as sharp. I guess I got lucky I found it on Amazon a week before Christmas for 650 bucks. But I think it’s worth every penny
For 700 dollars? A f 1.8.....waste of money. D G F series are much beter
@@sottosopra4769 The D G F lenses are all softer at 1.8 than the Z lens at 1.8, in fact, you need to go up to about 2.8 before the same sharpness in the corners can be matched. Second;y there is literally ZERO Chromatic aberration, the D G F lenses have a massive amount of fringing wide open. Lastly the Z lens of the new nikons have 5 axis of stabilization, the other lenses only have 3 axis of stabilization. The price point is great, the older D lens has no motor, so its manual. THERE IS SOO MUCH YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON SO MUCH PROS for only missing 3/4 of a stop of light
@@sottosopra4769 lmao the 1.8 beats the F mount 1.2 and 1.4 by miles 😂
@@sottosopra4769 the question is does it perform cheap? And the answer is NO, it actually beats the shit out of the more expensive ones. And Sony has 1.8 lenses that are more expensive than this one. So 1.8 is not longer a waste of money. Special Nikon 50mm 1.8 s that outperforms Nikon F, Sony and Canon 50mm 1.4 and 1.8 and it comes very close to the Lord of all 50s the Zeiss Otus 55mm f1.4.
I’m just about to pull the trigger on a Z6. Sooooooo close . I have the d810 , 500 and 850 . The 35 f/1.8 and 85,1.8 are the first S lenses I’ll get . I have tons of f mount glass that I’ll adapt first .
Love the Nikon “look” .
That 50mm S lens is amazing and I am not even a 50mm person. I would say that is the best in the line up and highly recommend it. You can shoot at F/1.8 on that thing all day everyday beautifully sharp with great fall off.
kelsier rayner Im not much of a 50 guy myself. I have the Sigma art 50 in f mount . Could sell it and grab the Nikon 50 S .
Jump into the Z system with both feet. (You'll be glad you did) I got my first Z (Z6) a year ago. It came with the Z 24-70 4 S and I could not stop shooting with it.
That was before I started buying primes followed by the Z 70-200 2.8 S. I don't know why, I have been shooting Nikons for decades.
But the Z is off the scale. It is that good.
I picked up the new 85 mm f1.8S and I am blown away on how sharp it is. Compared to the 85mm F1.8g adapted in my Z6 the 85mm G lens @f2.8 gets almost as sharp as the new 85mm f1.8S @f1.8. that's insane. The eye AF works a lot faster. I really like it. I would say it's as sharp as the Sigma 105mm f1.4. I recommend it.
How can u compare 85 1.8 G with the Z? Z cost 2 x more
@@sottosopra4769 I paid 500$ new for the 85mm f1.8G and $600 new for the 85mm f1.8S on sale the week before Christmas. And I would pay retail for the 85 z after using it and comparing it to the 85g. Yes it's that much better. Eye AF is quicker and focus speed is faster all around.
@@LMActionsports that is amazing! Any idea when they usually offer sales on these? I am in the market for one and in no rush
@@atalkhir I picked up that lens right around Christmas on Amazon. And I only buy from Amazon warehouse because half the retailers are selling gray market lenses. But I switched over to Sony since then and I still have my Nikon Z 50 with the 85 & 50mm F1.8 S has my all around Camera. But the sharpest 85mm in the market is the sigma 85mm f1.4 dg DN. Just too bad Nikon is it allowing third-party companies to fully make lenses for them
When I shoot families, portraits, events, it's my go to lens. The Z6 is also an amazing video camera. However I still rely on my D750 for weddings for which that two card slot I've not been able to let go, and the lickity fast C-AF for wildlife. Good video Jared.
Got a d750 some weeks ago, it's incredible for its money.
I have been using a Nikon D700 and D3 for events! done stuff all over the place last year! nobody has issues with my pictures! the older stuff still works :) I did think about the D750 but waiting to see how the D780 turns out? the D750 is a bargain these days!!! it is solid for Wedding/fashion/studio work :)
@@Gibson1976uk Glad, I am not the only one still sporting a D700. I have three of them that I use for weddings. I have never had anyone complain either. The Z system will be my next upgrade though.
It's hilarious that you have to disclose that you use nikon for video. People do get that triggered that you use sony for stills now. Brand loyalty destroying photography by the second.
@Mason lab Lol... I don't think they does.
I went from Sony A7III to Nikon z6.
For me it's a much better camera than the Sony.
I'm with you - Awkward and unnecessary. The fact that he has to disclose it to please the riot is just sad
@Mason lab brand loyalty triggering people to the point that the photography community starts arguing about what brand to use is IMO dividing what is IMO one of the most amazing artistic communities.
@@SkipperGeffen absolutely. Unfortunately it's what pays his bills so has to make these videos
At this point, It's situational. Nikon for some still portraits and landscapes vs Sony for that other stuff.
I started with the z 50mm but since i got my z 85 f1.8S i use it 90% of the time. My favorite portrait lens
Is the Z 85mm 1.8 beter tham the G 1.4?
Jared you are wrong :D ... i know you love 1.2 glas but for the actual Z cameras the 1.8 fits perfectly and $2500 glas would not make sense for it. In the end of 2020 Nikon will deliver their first pro Z Bodys + pro lenses ...that's a good plan from Nikon. Canon delivered a consumer RF cameras + pro RF lenses ---> that's stupid :D
I agree, most people, including pro's!! will not need/use F1.2 lenses!! I do photography jobs and my workhorse lens has been the Nikon 85mm F1.8G!! its made me money!!! :) nobody complains :) I do own a Zeiss 85mm F1.4 but thats manual, I'll use it for certain things! if you go for F1.2 the price goes crazy! would you want to spend your earnings on that costs so much?? people really are not that bothered if you don't have F1.2 for a job :)
@@Gibson1976uk I think the Z6 and Z7 was never desiged to be PRO bodys! They are well-rounded "prosoumer" cameras and the 1.8F Z lenses fit perfectly for them.
This is the best 85mm I ever used, better than the F mount 85mm 1.4, it is near flawless and priced competitively. These 1.8 Z primes are amazing, and with limited focus breathing. The dual motor is fast, and as a bonus it is a blast on the z50. Attention, Sony Northrup, sorry to inform you full frame lenses work perfectly on crop bodies. So far I have the 14-30 4 24-70 2.8 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 and all of those are the best in their class. These are perfect for hybrid cameras, and now that Nikon has RAW video they are leading in video. Nikon is back to creating the best lenses on the market, so far all the new z lenses perform incredible.
James Ryan agree. I have the 24 and 50 and they’re amazing
Try the Sony FE 85 1.8
Well, unfortunately it's a Z-Mount lens for doomed Nikon system. LOL.
Alien Drone Services I had the a7iii with the 55 1.8, 85 1.8 and the 24-70 2.8 gm and the Nikon z equivalents are all shaper wide open, with less CA distortion and vignette.
@@aliendroneservices6621 Why? can a lens not be "as good" without you losing sleep over it?
Hi Jared. On your Z's and A7s/A9s are you finding that the sensor is getting dusty and requires frequent cleaning (like before every use)?
The lens snob finally found time to review this lens.. Well I bought it before the review and it's an awesome portrait lens of course, but not as amazing and versatile as the 50mm S F/1.8 I don't think anyway I haven't used it enough to fully say though.
This crappy commenter who seems to hate me. Seems to watch all my videos.
@@froknowsphotoI'm surprised you'd respond to this comment. You admit yourself about whining about S lines small apertures thus lens snob. If there was any hate is that you can afford to have all the best gear, but you mentioned you had this lens before it was released and then did a bunch of Sony reviews and finally got around to this one three months later and that's why I made this comment. 🤷♂️
Is this a good lens for a Nikon Z50
Maybe people wouldn't call you a shill if you didn't forcibly remind us all the time that you're using Sony and their superior lineup in a goddamn lens review.
Petros Elathan lmao
Exactly, he needs an I use Sony shirt.
"I love, I love, I love…. I love Nikon blabla bla bla but I shoot sony… " Translation : please Nikon lovers watch my channel, buy my Fro presets!"
I am sick and tired of all of this gear obsession and am finding it all rather dull, why do you feel you have to justify what you’re using? I’ve always said I don’t care what gear anyone uses because it’s what you can do with it that really matters (nudge nudge wink 😉) Personally, I think it’s not badly priced considering the age of the old Nikon glass and if you compare it to let’s say a Sony FE 85mm it’s not much more but still considerably cheaper than 1.4. I think that Nikon will produce 1.2Z glass rather than 1.4
Fro and other sites are probably not “obsessed” with gear; rather, they are competing for clicks and viewers. Attracting and entertaining gearheads seems easier than getting traditional photographers. I’ve begin to suspect that a many are more interested in camera and lens specs than photography. Personally, I think this hullabaloo about the f1.8 not being f1.x is silliness, more about specs than photography, but I’m aware others disagree.
I used 3 of the new S lenses for Z mount. I find all 3 to be better than their F mount equivalents.
If you're not careful you'll convince yourself to switch back to the Z system :) I just bought this lens and it is superb on my Z6s.
I think the reason Nikon chose to do 1.8 versions first, is they are what the average (enthusiast) will use and they aren't absurdly expensive in most cases (although the 50 1.8 S is a bit higher-priced than I'd like--I feel sometimes it's more like a $399 lens but considering a 50 1.8G is still around $200, maybe $599 isn't too far off--just 2x the price but the optics are better comparatively). That being said, I think many pros will just adapt their 1.4's to their Z cameras (or just wait to upgrade to Z when Nikon does start releasing fast 1.4's). Nikon is just trying to catch up to everyone else (mainly Sony) in the prime lens dept, and since they had to basically re-design all the Z lenses, this takes time, so they wanted to create the lens that they knew most people would buy. To me, as an enthusiast, who doesn't really get a return on investment, the 1.8's offer great value/quality at a price point I can manage. To me, the little extra bokeh or gains you get from going to a 1.4 isn't justifiable financially (for my needs).
This being said, my Z 85 1.8 has become my new favorite portrait lens, and sadly, I've been using it way more than my adapted Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 lens (which I'm thinking about selling now because I've been shooting strictly with the 85 for the past few months now and love the results, not to mention the size and weight). (One big issue for me with the 70-200 is shooting verticals because Nikon didn't have enough foresight into creating a proper grip w/ controls for the Z6/Z7 bodies... which is a huge fail on their part). My hope is the "rumored" z6s/z7s have this option when released (as I would greatly upgrade my Z6 to a new Z6 body if it supported a vertical grip with controls). But shooting with the 85, this isn't as much of a concern because it's so small and light. I just find it difficult to use proper technique when shooting vertically with my 70-200 on the Z without a vertical grip. Can be done, but not as pleasant because of the size and weight of a 70-200 lens.
I'll wait till the 1.2 comes out, then decide: either the 1.2 or a second hand 1.8 :)
“LASER SHARP BUT...” Jeez.
I was just about to say the same "Cut the But", stop the implied negativity in the headlines. This has become a nasty habit of the TH-cam Gods.
Gotta have that clickbait !!
They are not going to stop this BS until all camera companies but fuji and sony are out of business
Manufacturers probably facepalm and say: "What nowwwww ?!"
Looking at your gig photo settings I wish I could shoot at more gigs with good lighting, so many local venues don't seem to care at all about lights so I'm at setting like 6400 ISO f2.8 1/160. And still bumping them up in post
Noisey and blurry great!
Come on back to Nikon Jared, me and the rest of the Nikon shooters believe in you. I can never leave my D850.
demorris byrd give nikon some time to make a good mirrorless and he will return... as a Sony shooter I know it’s only a matter of time because canon and nikon are catching up fast and sony is also sleeping after the a7iii (2 year ago)
He goes to the highest bidder ;-)
lol even he return he will return to the mirrorless world
Dude nice flex. Have to give it to you. Not everyone has a D850 though.
I kind of want to leave my D810 though, too heavy if I am traveling
I adapt the 85 f/1.8 on my Z6 and love it. I am waiting to pick up some native glass
The Weeaboo Dragon same. 👍🏻
Same! No complaints whatsoever.
I adaped as well at the beginning, finally got the 85 and 50mm S lens now. it´s a huge difference, don´t wanna go back anymore!
Going for the 50mm as my tax return Christmas gift to myself and my friend and I shoot together and he has the Z 50 so our next step is splitting cost on the 24-70mm 2.8
sony is making nikon do this (coming out with 1.8s only) bc nikon is sonys itch.... they are all sony cameras .... change my mind
If this is the S-Line, imagine the G-Line how it'll be. I'll hold off until then.
Love this lens. Gorgeous images.
I love your stuff Jared and Crew, but that was a little like watching someone struggling for possession of their own mind whilst being possessed by Jason Lanier :)
When the f1.2 or f1.4 Z mount lenses will be released, this will cost half, because that is the real price. Same for the other f1.8 Z lenses that cost double.
Jup, i feel that as soon Nikon does release a 1.4 or Sigma or Tamron release a nice Z mount lens the price of this lens will crash.
But. Ugly
Jared, what are your thoughts on the D780 for filmmakers? Stick with the Z series?
A dslr with a mirror flipped up is a mirrorless canera.
@@froknowsphoto I know ;) I was referring to other key capabilities like continuous autofocus for those that need subject tracking, detailed 4k, color accuracy...,
The Z series cameras are great. We just need more lenses.
True words brother
The 70-200 will be released today at CES
@@tallaganda83 that would be a nice surprise. The rumors site says March 2020.
I been shooting Nikon for many years, loyal based here. Or maybe just a lot invested in F mount glass. I use different 3rd party lenses and a a few Zeiss lenses. My 135mm app sonnar,which is very close to the otis line have always been in my bag paired with my D850 and it gives amazing results. I have bought a Z 7ii and my first z lens is this 85/ 1.8. I have to say it ranks up there towards the Zeiss wide open and today was the first day in a long, long time I never had the Zeiss in my bag. Really liking this lens
Jared, how do you feel about Nikon after firmware updates making AF pretty great now?
Am i the only one who thinks jared is simply hating nikon coz he is now biased to sony?
Hey Jered please suggest me between Nikon Zf and Canon R6ii.
You'll go back to nikon for the same reason I didn't switch to Sony. They are shit! Hahahaha
The noise banding on the z6 was horrible glad they fixed it on the z6ii
2020
Its time for ultimate SONY lens kit
I LOVE this lens! I've got the 24-72.8, 105 and 50 MC 2.8, and assortment of f Mount lenses but I find that I use the 85 more than any other
So the question is this or the 50mm f1.8 S??? Can't decide!
Good stuff Fro! Thanks for your knowledge and Happy New year to you!
As always please make the Fro Pack 1 and 2 for Capture Pro One 20 please!
I prefer also Z prime lenses but still using 85 1.4 F mount for portraits. I haven’t tried this lens but I guess it might be like 50 1.8 Z which is fabulous. Love your Nikon lens review....you will surely come back to Nikon completely! I believe I deserve some answers to my comments, I watch each and every video and follow you on IG!
I'm shooting with adapted lenses like 70-200 FL E, Sigma Art 35, 85 and many others and they are incredibly fast and sharp
Jared in a shirt that fits. Never thought I'd see the day.
Premium lens made in China... ehhh
I have no doubt you took Sony money. You did a lot of Sony marketing while doing a review of an excellent lens.
That’s cool. You have no doubt. And I have no doubt you have no clue what you’re talking about. So there’s that.
The ignorance of commenters like you is insane. You have no clue.
@@froknowsphoto Dude, your are posting toxic comments filled videos about Nikon for the the last one year or so while at the same time going out of way to praise Sony. Nobody does that kind of marketing for free for a big corporation like Sony.
You are doing that in videos like above that has nothing to do with Sony.
Please Sony, can I go back to Nikon, will Nikon have me back?
Not sure i like these click bait video titles..
You have to admit the image quality of Nikon Z6 and S mount are ridiculously very good
"What is it good for," absolutely nothing....*sponsored by Sony* but we still shoot video with Z 6, (security blanket for Nikon users).
@@uxo2255 it's working for me (Nikon user) He is a professional photographer, of course he is going to use the best gear.
@@uxo2255 I don't know if you're a troll or this incompetent. The Z6 focuses better than my D750 which had a stellar AF system. Because a camera doesn't have the best Eye AF doesn't obsolete how people and professionals have been focusing for decades... There are several focus options and configurations you can use to get the focus you need not to mention the Eye AF has improved with a recent firmware update 2.10 🤷♂️
Man you don’t need to be that apologetic to Nikon. Your previous video was clear enough and you stated your reasons very respectfully. That should be enough. Great review btw.
I think his apologetic statements here are more geared towards his Die-hard Nikon fans. Man he got so much hate on that video from them even though he was just being honest about his thoughts towards the current models Nikon has. Some of the people suddenly got mad just because he thought that the current systems sony has are better than the ones from Nikon.
Plenty of social media and other Nikon pros (Nikon Ambassadors) out there making the switch for mirrorless systems. We contacted Sony to try and get an a7 III on loan with no luck. We have used the Z7 thru NPS which was great. We have too much invented in Nikon gear to make the switch now so are staying with DSLR. Wouldn't mind seeing what all the hype is with Sony tho. Thinking of purchasing a Sony at Best Buy and exercising the 30 day return policy?
Nikon image quality is something Sony still cant match.
But I get better moments with Sony because it lets me capture what I would have missed with Nikon.
Jared Polin ...it‘s simple: learn how to use it ;)
Jared Polin better or more? I would like to know in what way the Sony cameras have given you “better” moments? That may make a good video to do. This is essentially saying - Yes - it is the camera that makes the photographer and not the other way round.
Jared always uses that Rock photo he took back in like 2000😁 I've never seen him at a show, festival or anything NorCal, SoCal, Vegas. Get back in the trenches Jared. You used to shoot skaters bro.
See that he heard me. We're connected >ie Iron Man 3 scene< Good to see you in the field my dude🤘
Super cheap feeling lens hood that doesn't feel that cheap feeling? Hahaha
I have chance to try this badass lens and I really like it 😊 the "but" is really small but... But I like the sharpness and bokeh :O
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Just asking, did you have upgraded for RAW video?
I did not upgrade our bodies as of now. Not sure I will.
what field monitor did you use to record your screen?
Happy new year 🎊🎆 amigo!
...the happiness you have in this video is like on the Tamron's for Sony...😕
you are editing the pictures horribly
Thx for your review...and to be honest, great that you have degraded your bash-everything-but-Sony-mode. It was a bit too much in the last videos.
Welcome back 😉
Stop it. Don’t do back handed compliments. There’s no bash everything but Sony that’s a bullshit statement. I’ve shot Nikon since I was 15, so where were you over the first 9 years of Nikon Nikon Nikon on my TH-cam channel. Please think before saying that stuff
Hey Jared, no bashing...I was just mentioning that the tone of voice of your movies was a bit more harsh.
I know you shoot with Nikon for years. Superb! And I have no problem with you making/adding a move to SONY. I love your channel not just for Nikon. It's about photography.
So apologies if my 'compliment' reached you in a wrong way. Still love the channel 🙂
15min review on a lens and not mentioning that it is sealed. Instead complaining 10 times It’s only 1.8 and expensive. It’s a pro lens.
You must not be familiar with Jared's reviews. If it's not top notch he is going to whine about it not being cream of the crop.
Nikon will be dropping a 50mm f1.2 and a 85mm f1.2 this year
Thats just dam sexy mate
I can’t wait either 🥰
I'm a humble hobbyist I will be sticking to my F/1.8 lenses 😅
Why does Jared never talk about MTF charts?
J he don’t know what they are!
Old Jared: “my opinion is this lens sucks ass and here’s some very logical reasons why I think it is on a technical scale. That’s why I shoot with two brands of cameras to get the best results because I can afford it.”
Broke ass photogs that have to be brand loyal: “WAAAAHHH BUT WAAAAHHH WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO US!?”
New Jared: “I love all cameras and their results even if they take garbage shots please stop saying I’m brand loyal!”
Everyone bitched so much that he got soft. Let him bash on your shit with his opinions he was entertaining and brought up some interesting things to consider when choosing a product.
His channel shouldn’t be all about validating your affordable purchase.
Great video 👍 sure it's a decent lens.
Lens hoods are outrageously priced.
Hope that nikon will make mirrorles camera with d5 made in japan build quality... Sony does not have made in japan quality model i belive people would not mind a thousand $ higher price for that long life quallity
V Vu Canon made eos r in japan btw, it is indeed high end quality body.
As far as I know Z6 is also great in terms of build quality.
How the engineers design the camera (material choice and the overall structure) made a camera sturdy not where is made... we are in 2020 you should know this...
Look how bad and inconsistent are some sigma made in japan... it’s all about the engineer choice that make a good product
Light Yagami I know that but some products are made in china, some are just assembled in china :) just kidding, you are right about that it is just cheaper way of making products in countries like china, indonesia etc. But knowing that i respect canon for making almost all of their gear nativly in japan. It really doesn’t metter :) cheers
The Z6 and Z7 is made in Japan...
Made in ChiNazi?! No way! Getaway from any made in China products and stand with HK! Hope all Camera manufacturers move to other countries in Asia such as Vietnam or Thailand rather than China. Of course made in Japan feels the best!
Nikon is pure Japanese Sony is sort of Japanese & American company y its important bcs Nikon is part own by one of the biggest conglomerate in the world.. Hehehe Mitsubishi both r historically very important for Japan its image & technical development of the country. Sony is just on opportunistic course.. Hehehe whatever brings cash. Sony lost battle with Samsung & others in TV long ago, than tried in cellphones again lost battle than Hollywood movies music real estate... Hehehe I think u guess where I'm going with it.. I don't think they will ever commit itself to expenses of establishing international service net the canikon has it. Sony has at present technological might in photo area but no production facilities. I don't bet on Sony future but being sure can count on nikon products & support even sometimes with some quirks. Competition is good.. Hehehe
I have a z50 and i am beginner. What lens do you recommend for portraits? Also what lens do you recommend for indoor basketball and lastly what lens do you recommend for outdoor American football. Please help. Thank you. Love the channel.
I have it since a few months and the 35, 50 and 85 1.8 are awesome. No matter if on the Z6 or Z7.
Can I use it on a z5 ?
@@michealokafor5722 🤗 yes of course. Why do you think you shouldn't? You may use it on all Z cameras. On the APS-C Z's it's cropped to 127.5 mm equivalent (cropped!!!! not optically longer).
@@rolandrick thanks alot
Can you just review the lens as is? I was looking for pros and cons of this lens and all I hear is - it's not 1.4! No other cons? Why fuss with 1.4 or 1.2? I know you need 1.4 as a pro, but its a lens review of a 85 1.8
That’s my review. It’s not a 1.2 or. 1.4 that’s part of it.
Jared Polin it’s also not a 2.8, but so what?
Other reviewers have stated this is the best 85mm f1.8 lens produced by Nikon. A noticeable improvement on the last F mount equivalent.
nik hitterp it’s a missed opportunity for Nikon. The Z-mount enables lenses with wider aperture but they wasted time and money a 1.8while they could have made a 1.2 or 1.0 instead to give a lot more incentive for people to get a Z-series camera.
Even if the 1.8 is better than the previous 1.8 from Nikon the obvious difference is not there to make people switch to the new mount. Even a lot of Z-mount users are using adapted lenses because of this.
@@phelanwolf6747 Its not that I cant understand his words in that respect. Im just curious why hes naming this video a 85mm 1.8s review, while nothing much is told about it.
I had z 85 mm. And ef version 85. 1.8 . 85mm 1.8 g lens is very good. But z 85mm is incredible . I can use 1.8 aperture and it is not soft. İt is sharp
This review was a good one, glad you didn't bash Nikon too too hard here haha. Considering this lens soon
To and FRO on the fence re Sony & Nikon , I have to laugh, I guess if I were you YouTubing, I'd also try and exploit both camera brands and keep playing one off against the other and if necessary I'll contradict myself if it keeps me in both camps! Because like many of your followers, I'm confused too, therefore I have to give you a thumbs down for this video. I suppose you are in a position where you are able to shoot both brands. Good luck Fro.
Nikon has made these new lenses ,and made so they will sell . A 1.4 would double the coast, it would be much bigger. Hats off to nikon for keeping the size and price down.Thumbs down to Sony , the lenses are too expensive and they weigh a ton,yes they are good ,but if you can't afford to buy them what good are they!
I love the primes pn the Z6! Ihave the 50mm f1,8 butt im not shure i want no buy the 24 and the 85...:\ what do you think? 24 mm 50mm and 85mm. Are they good for only 3 lensen in the Bag? The 24-70 2,8. VR i have for the D4 is too big for the Z6:/
Hey Jared, one question please...As a Fuji X-System landscape and product photographer, I am strongly contemplating moving into FF, with either a Nikon Z7 or a Sony a7Rlll. Two questions please...Does the Nikon Z (S Mount) System have a good Macro lens on par with the supposedly stellar Sony 90 f/2.8 G OSS Macro? (Though I'd put my Fujinon XF80 f/2.8 Macro against any macro in terms of image sharpness!) And, have you experienced a "sensor Dust" issue with any of your Sony bodies? Thank you sir! Steve
Just because a lens has a wider maximum aperture doesn't automatically make it "better glass." I don't believe you'll find a better 85 than the 85/1.8S. That's right, I said it.
can you please review the Nikkor Z 58mm f/0.95 S and share the Raw file?
Native Z primes are the way to go. As you said: they feel solid, are silent and weather sealed.
Why get a Z camera if you're you are going to keep using the old F lenses with the adapter?
I own a Z85mm 1.8 / S, I love it ! ! . What would be the difference/advantage if it was a f/1.4?
Happy New Decade everyone! Can you believe it that Santa did not leave either a Z6 or Z7 under the tree! He also failed to leave a 2020 Land Rover Defender in my driveway! I guess I'm going to have to keep building points on my USAA Visa.
Compared to the Tamron the price is just 100$ off. Clearly the Tamron has VR , this do not (the Z6 and the Z7 have in body stabilization).
I have 24 1.8S and 50 1.8S. I tried 85 1.8S and I don't wanna buy it, it's ok, but nothing special for me. Waiting for 70-200
nikon 85mm 1.8g with ftz adapter vs nikon 85 mm 1.8s which one is better ? camera body:Z6 ii
if you are shooting concerts or nightlife photos, edit them in Capture one or something other than lightroom...lightroom renders the artificial light at high iso horribly and and more often you'll see harsh blown out lights.. espcially with blues and magentas...
85mm 1.8G Vs 85mm 1.8S
Please rate both lenses out of 10 for photo and video?
Because as per some reviews older version i.e 85mm 1.8G focuses faster than the newer S lens. S lens is more smoother
After learning a lot from you i have already used my D3400 enough since last 2 years. want to upgrade the body now. which one do you recommend, Sir.? BTW, I am an event photographer and a stock photography contributor
Good evening sir
I want to buy a sigma f2.8 macro lens for my nikon z6ii please tell me about its auto focus thanks
I almost always leave my FTZ adapter attached to my old 50mm 1.4 in the bag, seems like I use the big zooms on a DSLR still as its more comfortable to hold but this one is nice use
Thanks for the review. Lot's of good information. I appreciate your "act" and all the information. Good job! 😎👋📸
But--I want 1.2
4IN14094 this. I’m waiting for a 35/50/85 1.2. Don’t care if they’re $2k each.
It's frustrating because the rumors touted the larger flange allowing for ridiculous f stops, and then nobody (not canon, not nikon, not sony) are making f1.0 lenses that I dreamed about. I need a WTF adapter to understand this.
@@DamonBowe There is a native 0.95 lens. There you go.
@@Shentao83 Ha ha that pos does not count lol.
You know Nikon is the best, they just falling behind a little bit for now, you will be back one day😆
I own a 85mm 1.8G, Im used with it with no VR on my D600 and paid full price for it, and it always surprises me with its sharpness, colors etc. Now coupled with the in camera Vr from the Z6 or Z7 why would I need 2/3 stop from the future 1.4Z if the 1.8Z is already so expensive ??
I'll take the adapter, thank you.
The whole section at 3:55 about not wanting to use the FTZ adapter....this is my problem with the reviews. I have zero problems with the FTZ adapter, it feels just like shooting native lenses to me. And they allow us to use the old lenses with giant pieces of glass, versus the weird new software-corrected tiny mirrorless lenses which work really well, but lack some of the character of the giant glass lenses of yesteryear. Just my 2 cents, it feels like the FTZ lens discussion is really excessive.
Also, why is anyone that excited about a 1.4 lens? These magical mirrorless big flanges were supposed to make f1.0 possible in an AUTOFOCUS lens. If it's not 1.0, I honestly am not that impressed. F 1.4 is the same shit we've had for like 70 years (I mean, I'm not that old but...70 years!) and we still can't move past that.
The point has nothing to do with the lenses not working fine. I love the adapter, it works. But when you're switching quickly between Z lenses and F lenses with the adapter you run into issues. Sometimes you take the whole adapter off when you meant to just take off the lens. Or you the lens off and want to but a z lens on and now you have to still take the adapter off.
For what I shoot, I can't have it be that slow when im switching.
@@froknowsphoto That is definitely a fiddly and annoying situation, but two bodies and two lenses pretty much covers most stuff for most photographers. Any time you're taking lenses off cameras mid-shoot it totally sucks the fun out of the day. I hope my comment wasn't too negative, I really enjoy your videos and insights. And with so much out there, it's impossible for everyone to love every opinion all the time. Your avoidance of push back from nikon fanatics has been pretty impressive tbh. I think you have a future career in politics... ;)
I think it makes sense launching the 1.8 lenses first, because when the 1.4 and 1.2 ones come out, there will be people who will be like "this piece of glass is so nice, I'm gonna buy it".
I think it depends on the objective when selling.
Is the objective to sell the 1.8 lenses and then sell the 1.4 lenses, then the 1.2 lenses and then the 1.0 to the same customers? Then yes it makes sense.
But if your objective is to overwhelm the competition and outperform the F-mount with absolutely superior lenses, then it does not make sense.
Outperforming the F-mount lenses by a big margin would make the Z-mount a lot more appealing for the current Nikon user base but also for customers from other vendors.
Nikon going for the first option is understandable but I would have preferred the second option.
Also I would like to see some Z-Mount tele-zoom lenses, currently there is only the one DX 50-250.
The upcoming 70-200mm f/2.8 could be interesting.