I agree with Xavier in his assessment, for me, 1st Place award goes to Grimani Systems followed by Ascendo in 2nd Place. This was my first time at this show and learned a lot. Thank you Michael!
How was bass reproduction between the two? Did Grimani room was running WaveForming? Do you know if Ascendo room was running DART on Storm? Which was Grimani's room was better than Ascendo and how close or far apart in SQ where these? Finally how about other numerous rooms running Trinnov processing? Thanks
The Grimani and Ascendo had the best room treatment for sure. But from an overall sound capability perspective, I felt like JTR was the best. The sound envelopment in the Grimani room was a tad better at times. I remember watching the same clip from Spiderman in both and felt like Grimani did a slightly better job with the sound bubble it created with the Atmos effect, but the other than that, the overall smoothness, impact and even the infrasonics that I felt in the JTR room was better than anything I have heard till date. I am not a bass head, but I do like good tactile bass. I know there were panels rattling all over the room due to amount of bass that was generated with those large subs and lack of proper room treatment, but even with all that, JTR provided the most unforgettable experience for me and many folks I talked to at the show, especially those who got chance to attend their 'extreme experience'. It wasn't just about the powerful sound though, but how pleasing to the ears the overall sound was even playing at those high volume, at least for me. While watching an extended clip from 'a start is born' which included the song 'shallow', I wished I could watch the entire movie in that system because the sound was so nice and engaging. Matt did an amazing job calibrating that system. I felt like Grimani was a bit too bright for my liking at higher volume and Ascendo even though very pleasing to the ears, had not enough tactile impact in comparison.
Sorry but no way JTR was better than Grimani. Over inflated bass that was boomy/middy around 60-100hz, and not as large sound stage. The general consensus was 1. Grimani 2. Ascendo 3. RBH 4. JTR 5. SVS
JTR was far and away the busiest room for a reason. Most of the people I talked to loved the JTR room. Not sure who you figure is the general consensus, but obviously you were talking to a different group of people than me. Grimani was a touch bright and fatiguing, and was lacking in the infrasonic bass department. That said, all of the rooms were great. Each of them had their own strengths and weaknesses. To each his own.🤷♂️
Good luck. Afraid its dead, unless Ryan gets someone else to do the bulk of the event by themselves. He was too checked out on his own system to carry his weight. He lost his mule.
I was listening to systems all day. At the end, because they are late getting their system calibrated I came in and it hurt. Ear fatigue, and a super bright sound stage with lean bass. Was it the most expensive? Yep. Most accurate? Yep. Hurt my ears at end of day? Yep . Most fun? Nope. The black swans did completely abuse my ears in the other room. Had I come here earlier in the day, it may have been ranked higher imho.
I agree with Xavier in his assessment, for me, 1st Place award goes to Grimani Systems followed by Ascendo in 2nd Place. This was my first time at this show and learned a lot. Thank you Michael!
How was bass reproduction between the two? Did Grimani room was running WaveForming? Do you know if Ascendo room was running DART on Storm?
Which was Grimani's room was better than Ascendo and how close or far apart in SQ where these?
Finally how about other numerous rooms running Trinnov processing?
Thanks
@@sebna no waveforming .
@@xaviersreview1827 Thanks for getting back to me but what about the other questions I asked :)
@@sebna yes, all rooms are using room correction.
They should price tags on every room covered with a flap so you can peek after you listen.
The Grimani and Ascendo had the best room treatment for sure. But from an overall sound capability perspective, I felt like JTR was the best.
The sound envelopment in the Grimani room was a tad better at times. I remember watching the same clip from Spiderman in both and felt like Grimani did a slightly better job with the sound bubble it created with the Atmos effect, but the other than that, the overall smoothness, impact and even the infrasonics that I felt in the JTR room was better than anything I have heard till date.
I am not a bass head, but I do like good tactile bass. I know there were panels rattling all over the room due to amount of bass that was generated with those large subs and lack of proper room treatment, but even with all that, JTR provided the most unforgettable experience for me and many folks I talked to at the show, especially those who got chance to attend their 'extreme experience'.
It wasn't just about the powerful sound though, but how pleasing to the ears the overall sound was even playing at those high volume, at least for me. While watching an extended clip from 'a start is born' which included the song 'shallow', I wished I could watch the entire movie in that system because the sound was so nice and engaging. Matt did an amazing job calibrating that system. I felt like Grimani was a bit too bright for my liking at higher volume and Ascendo even though very pleasing to the ears, had not enough tactile impact in comparison.
On which day did you listen to Grimani system as they were improving on brightness every day.
Awesome room. Probably my 2nd or 3rd best. JTR was 1st for me.
Sorry but no way JTR was better than Grimani. Over inflated bass that was boomy/middy around 60-100hz, and not as large sound stage.
The general consensus was
1. Grimani
2. Ascendo
3. RBH
4. JTR
5. SVS
JTR was far and away the busiest room for a reason. Most of the people I talked to loved the JTR room. Not sure who you figure is the general consensus, but obviously you were talking to a different group of people than me.
Grimani was a touch bright and fatiguing, and was lacking in the infrasonic bass department.
That said, all of the rooms were great. Each of them had their own strengths and weaknesses.
To each his own.🤷♂️
Hands down the best room at the event IMO.
what is the projector? it is cut off in the beginning
What projector model is being demonstrated ? Thanks
It’s a modified Christie M 4K15. The Extreme AV folks in Florida dis the tweaking.
@@FrankieKennethL thanks Frankie!
@@laptopdoc Absolute Ultimate AV, Bradenton FL.
@@satansgolfcart thanks!
Awesome room setup. Which SSP? Storm Audio?
Trinnov
Cant wait to see more content from MWAVE 2024!
Good luck. Afraid its dead, unless Ryan gets someone else to do the bulk of the event by themselves. He was too checked out on his own system to carry his weight. He lost his mule.
@@tkcdac well let's let Ryan give his 2 cents instead
I was listening to systems all day. At the end, because they are late getting their system calibrated I came in and it hurt.
Ear fatigue, and a super bright sound stage with lean bass.
Was it the most expensive? Yep. Most accurate? Yep. Hurt my ears at end of day? Yep . Most fun? Nope.
The black swans did completely abuse my ears in the other room. Had I come here earlier in the day, it may have been ranked higher imho.
Aww I was waiting for the DEMO
Sorry, demo on here would not do the sound or visual justice. A "10" in both respects. Really perfect immersion IMO.
For $47,000 that pj better be mind blowing good
That’s without lens, with modified lens it’s more like 60-70K or something.
Definitely was the best sounding room, imo too
you guys when you post this stuff should also post all the equipment/gear being used in the demo. kind of defeats the purpose of posting this