This was a great video. It is so encouraging to see somebody having taken care of all the details e.g. oil dauber etc and now handed off to a great gentleman such as yourself! Congratulations. I have lived vicariously through your good fortune.
The little cylinders with the slot in the side that you showed in the first video are bushings for the milling cutter holder. The holder goes in the head stock and is just of one diameter so the bushing were needed to hold the cutters. Got some myself. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas.
So glad I found this comment! My lathe came with a bucket of rust parts, these were in the bottom, I was gonna toss them but my horder side said wait good thing!
I really enjoy your video’s, very informative , just got an Atlas Lathe as a GIFT. I have disassembled it all and cleaned it thoroughly and reassembled it , works great so far . Could not have done it without your Great video’s… keep up the good work
I liked the video because it shows lot about the atlas and the different tools and add on. I thought I would go with an old Atlas to lean on and I think they are a very good lathe. I was going to go with a mini lathe but I thought the atlas would be the way to go. Thanks I in joy the videos
I'm posting this relating to part 1 before watching part 2 as it said comments were disabled for part 1. "Collect your thoughts" indeed! Though you are trying, you can't hide the "I just hit the jackpot but don't want to gloat!" (and rightfully so) enthusiasm. When I saw the milling attachment on it, I said "jackpot" to myself. And then more..... and more......and more.......!!!! I'm truly happy for you. Right time right place. It's wonderful when good fortune finds good people like you. You are like a child on Christmas morning, and THIS this gift will keep on giving. Yes, I am green with envy watching this, but in a good way. Congratulations on THE FIND! You deserve it!
Congratulations on a nice find, Mr. Pete. I'm still chugging along with my 10-inch Atlas, with change gears. Actually, I just now acquired the change gears, so now I have to learn to use them.
Would it be possible to show some of the techniques and methods for cleaning up equipment such this lathe and how to tackle something like that micrometer. Thanks and Merry Christmas from a chilly Spain!
You probably know this but the date of manufacturing would be hand scribed in the timken bearings by the person who put it together. I found this out when cleaning up an Atlas TH54 that I purchased and the date on mine was 9/10/46.
If anyone was bored by that, they are watching the wrong channel. This two parter was like a pop radio show. This hits just kept on coming. What a score! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute. Thanks so much for posting this. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Mr. Peterson!
I have this exact machine with most of the same attachments except for the drilling table. It is a very versatile machine and I truly enjoy it. I would be very cautious of putting the machine into back gear and make sure the lash on the gears is correct. These Z-Max gears do not take a lot of abuse and I found that out the first time I went to thread and broke most of the teeth off of the bull gear. There is a shimmed adjustment on the back of the headstock to take care of the gear lash issue. Thank you ever so much for all of your videos. They are a wonderful inspiration to me and I am sure many others.
Mr. P., Lemon juice can be useful in dealing with corroded ferrous metal. LJ contains citric and ascorbic acids. Citric acid is weak, but a good complexing agent. So, it is SLOW to attack metallic iron, but deals with the already corroded material. Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is a reducing agent, which changes ferric to ferrous. Ferrous is easier to bring into solution than ferric. Rinse with water, dry THOROUGHLY, and oil, after treating corroded areas. Eli D.
There is almost nothing better in live then buying a new/used tool. I'm a little worried I caught your addiction of buying lathes. Im up to 5 now including a Hardinge HLV. Great job, love it when you share your tool finds. keep it up. P.s. How much did you get it for?
Omg...I just bought this same lathe last week. It is the same size it didn't come fully loaded like yours. It's about the same condition from what I can see. You have one heck of a deal there with the mill attachment and steady rest ect.$$$$$ I will keep a eye out for videos with it from the master machinist. Congratulations on you find
Great purchase, nice to see all the accessories. A few days cleaning, basic maintenance and lots of lube and the lathe will give you and hopefully others generations of use.
Thank you Mr Pete, I enjoyed watching these videos. I keep telling my wife we need to go to an auction, or at least a flea market and look for things like this. Just looking at some of those tools reminds me of a time when, made in USA meant something. I can feel the excitement in your voice looking through those boxes. Yeah I'm jealous, but there isn't much like that going on around here. You live out there in a part of USA where so much of America was being built. All I have is a 9 inch South Bend lathe that I restored. Again thanks for sharing this find with us. Looking forward to seeing more from those lathes. Ken...Marina CA.... PS, right after WW II when we were buying toys etc, from Japan, people scoffed at their products and said they wouldn't buy from Japan, so the Japanese got around that, by putting made in Usa on their products. Well if you look on a world map, there is a place in Japan called Usa . It;s a tiny place but it served it's purpose in selling their products. Now made in Japan means quality.
Another great purchase. Its amazing that you have all the relevant parts with it as so often these get mixed up as stuff is moved around. Look forward to more video on this lathe. Merry Xmas to you and yours and a Happy New Year. All the best from the UK
Very nice, I used that same model Atlas for many years, till a couple years ago when I found a Clausing like the one you have. Ran the heck out of that lathe and even made some money with it. Often wished I'd had some of those accessories you just unpacked. I was in Spring Valley earlier this fall, had I known then I was so close I would have stopped in to say Hi. Very much enjoy your videos, and appreciate your contributions to the TH-cam community. Was just watching Crispin unpack his goodies last nite.
Wow wish we had auctions with finds like that out here, sorry about his passing but came to a good home I think. Amazingly all that together...the more I think about it...Drool...to find that all together...droool...slurp...quite a find...gotta go...welling up...snifff...! Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thanks for showing this. It is always interesting to see older machines. But I am amazed that you are able to hear about auctions and then actually get something, and I am assuming at a good cost! I have one of the smallest craftsman’s lathe; made by Sears not craftsman (It would make a good boat anchor). I also have the small four jaw check and a three jaw of the same small size.
Hi mrpete, Saved money from Grizzly store to save an old/new Craftman lathe from bad hands.... Look like Christmas day opening all the boxes, juts the mice beat you to it but, they don't count. That little lathe has many years in front of it despite it's age. Happy Holidays to you and family, Pierre
What I have to say is "Darn, I wish I were so lucky to find a 12" Atlas lathe"! I have outgrown my little imoort lathe, and want to move up to an ole U.S. Made product! Thank You, I enjoyed watching,,.. Keeps me watching the papers, and Craigs list ads.
Mr. Pete: That long bar you showed near the end of this video with the "V block bolted on looks like an action wrench for removing rifle actions from the barrel. The handle is very long for that, but the rest sure looks like an action wrench. It may be for another threaded connection like the barrel and action connection.
It would be nice if you made a copy of that manual for the reversing switch as many folks have probably lost the one they got with the lathe. Thanks for sharing and merry Christmas.
Very Nice Find mrpete222, I certainly would have been very happy with this lathe. Nice video too! Hoping you had a wonderful Christmas, Best wishes for the New Year.
Thanks for sharing, I used to have a 1935 Craftsman lathe which must be quite rare here in the UK. I sold it 3 years ago, the guy who bought has rebuilt it. Hope you have a Merry Christmas, all the best.
My dad has a Craftsman lathe. But for wood. Plus 6 shaping tools. have no idea what to do with them, but again, not for metal work. Thank you for sharing, Mr Pete and Merry Christmas! I will google it but wondered what are boring bars and why were there so many? I hate mice...
That long bar with the attached v-block is a gunsmithing tool, used to clamp on to the barrel to facilitate its removal from the gun stock and or receiver. mrpete222
Andre Gross yes my father was a competitive long range shooter and a gunsmith for the canadian military for over 30 years and i have seen many tools of that trade. lol
mrpete222 it's actually a rifle action wrench. The big end clamps on to the receiver of probably a 98 Mauser. You clamp the barrel in a vise between hardwood blocks and use the wrench to unscrew the receiver from the barrel.
Nice find! Have you ever used black strap molasses mixed with water to clean the rust off of items? A mixer of 6 to 8 parts water to 1 part molasses works great for removing rust. Just get a tub or bucket of some kind to hold the mixed product, drop the rusty parts into the mixer and just let them soak for a few days. Pull out the parts after they have had time to soak and rinse them off with water. It worked great. I am sure there are a few videos on youtube showing the process. The mixer may mold after time, if it does, just skim off the mold keep on using it.
To bad you live so far away from California or I would come over and help you clean the lathe up. Looks like a fun project. It is so satisfying to take an old piece of machinery and put it back into service. Happy holidays!
I'm so glad to see that you finally got your 6th, (or is it 7th?), lathe. No man should have to get by with less than a 1/2 dozen lathes! :-) I'm a woodworker and I have 4 table saws, never can have too many. Seriously, thanks for sharing and a very merry Christmas to you and yours. Part of the reason I enjoy your videos is because we're the same age and also your location. I grew up, (or at least got older, not sure if I've ever "grown up") not too far away in Kankakee.
Hi Mr. Pete I have a 12 inch Craftsman early version I bought it back in the 1980s. It is a babbit bearing model non quick change the guy I bought it from was an old school machinist he hand scraped the bed just like you would do on an old Bridgeport. It came with a brass jaw commutator tail stock chuck. It had a city of Detroit id tag on it the guy told me he bought it from the city of Detroit transportation department who used it to rebuild starter motors and generators for city buses. Mine actually runs fairly quiet. One key to setting up the feed change gears it to use a strip of printer paper to set the gap between the teeth and using a high quality synthetic grease lubricant, I find it comical that people tell me an Atlas Lathe is junk because of the "cheap" Zamack gears, then they go out and buy a new Chinese lathe with plastic gears lol. I think a 10-12inch Craftsman/Atlas is ideal because it is a larger swing lathe that two people can easily carry downstairs to a basement workshop. Most of the people who don't like lathe don't seem to get that it is lighter duty homeowner grade machine and try to take heavy cuts at high "production" feed rates.
Have to say even with the rust that's quite a score .When I found my 10 F it had just as much rust , with no tooling an I'm still making stuff up as I go hammer an chisel stile . My first repair was the half nut and the cross feed gear which were purchased from Causing . I gave the nice lady the numbers and she sent a PDF print out so I could pick my part . It dates to the mid 40s . No quick change gear box or gears . Now that small 4 jaw chuck looks like one I have , but it's labelled Dunlap , and sold by Sears . I think it was made by Atlas also from the 40s . Well Merry Christmas any way ! Steve
Hi Mr. Pete, just watched this video. So almost 3 years later if you are still looking for Manufacturing Date info on the lathe from the serial number, you can contact the Yahoo Group Atlas-Craftsman site and input your model and serial number data. There is a fellow, Robert Downs from Houston, who if he is not currently tied up with flooding issues, tracks the serial numbers on Atlas-Craftsman lathes and he can give you an idea of when the lathe might have been made. Also, if you have not figured out by now, in one of the shots you had some funny looking small diameter bushings with slots in the sides - these go with the milling attachment mandrel or arbor and are the bushings used to adapt the ID of the arbor from 1/2" down to 3/8" and 1/4" for different size milling cutter shank diameters.
What a great bunch of accessories and tooling. I believe I'd take a bath in Lysol though. I'd love to see a video on changing gears. I've got a 10" one I need to slow down.
Mr Pete, What a nice Christmas present you bought yourself. I do enjoy all of your videos and have learned from each one of them. When you showed the change gear set, I was envious. I own a 10F Pick-O-Matic Atlas. I run the change gears and sometimes don't have the gear I need. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Have a Happy New Year.
Nice find. I was going to comment on the dauber being missing until you found it later. Both of my Atlas/Craftsman lathes have a hole for it, but only one has it. I wonder if you'll be able to convert it back to use the normal gears without a slightly longer lead screw to take up some of the space that the quick change gear box would.
hey you were talking about removing rust, I don't know if you have already solved the problem, so I will suggest using vinegar, and other mild acids, perhaps some wet sand blasting may help to, finally to prevent further rust... how about electroplating
Great video Mr Pete, Christmas has arrived early for you. As my Dad would say, A good day at Maxwell Street again. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you Sir, keep up the great videos I love them.
Great find but what did you pay for it?i.i recently.bought a th54 atlas lathe needing belts and all.new wiring covered in filth. But no discernable wear and milling setup plus boxes and boxes of indicators bases and every conceivable reamer.and.milling cutter mostly all.new and lots of other goodies. I paid $200.because the person sold the house and had not enough room.for everything he had and had 36 hours to get house cleaned out and had a long way to go.
Mr Pete, Enjoy your videos - I'm a retired Elect Engineer and enjoy building and fixing most anything - and enjoy my home machine shop quite a bit. I have that same 12" craftsman (unfortunatley w/o the quick change gear box). Mine has too much vibration and I've yet to figure out exactly how I want to fix it. I notice that when you turned yours on - it has the same problem - The motor tends to bounce up and down causing that vibration. The motor is mounted on a pivoting bracket with the motor weight tensioning the belt. Have any thoughts on resolving this without removing too much of the origional? ??? Dave W
All my lathes shake. Its a combo of things. The motors are balanced, but not very well. They all vibrate. Every pully shaft, chuck, you name it--is out of balance. It all adds up. On a small light lathe there is little to dampen it. No easy cure
Mr. Pete, John was correct, that is a barrel wrench or action wrench. it is missing the wooden jaws on the opposite side of the Vee. Brownell's will know, they were in business at that time. The 12" would have been a great gunsmith lathe, possibly just for his own firearms.
What a nice find Lyle , I was as excited about the lathe and attachments as you Nice xmas present you bought yourself Would love to bring one of those back to life---- like I know you will HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANKS
I may be able to help here. I just bought a Craftsman 12" lathe on Sunday, (somewhat your fault Mr. Pete, I'll be buying your course soon.), and it's a similar model to the one in this video, but not exact; mines a 101-28910. Trying to research the date and found the serial numbers don't tell you much when it comes to Craftsman metal lathe's, but some said there's a date tag in the bed. In looking it over I found it, middle of the bed between the ways. Here's a couple of pictures, the first one shows an upside down "Atlas" cast in the bed on the left of center, and the date tag and another tag on the right, also upside down. My lathe's manufacture date is 2-24-65:
Mr Pete Am thinking of making my own follow rest. Could you take a couple minutes and take some photos of it with a tape measure in them showing dimensions please? It would be a very good video showing how it is set up and why followrest is important. Dan Bentler
nice buy well worth for extras...see if i have luck tool swapmeet...keep up videos..oh that extended shaft can add spindle brake. once again old popular mechanics
Mr. Peterson, my buddy who owns the Logan I worked on runs a mechanic shop. One of his young workers asked him where the can of Elbow Grease was. We had a good laugh over that.
That long bar with a V block at one end with two screws is not junk. It is a nice barrel wrench used for opening rifle barrels in order to crown the chamber.
Regarding the little box of sleeves with square holes...... The sleeves are for the milling cutter holder..... The sleeves allow you to reduce the size of the hole to accommodate different size milling cutters.... The set screw passes through square hole to secure the milling cutter. This is a hard item to find.
Great find. The thing about living here in the south is good small used lathes are very hard to find. They can be found but at a huge cost and not as nice as the Craftsman you picked up
Probably so, most of the shops here when I started in 1974. Was making parts for textile mills, a few made NASCAR parts for Holman and Moody. There was some screw machine shops but not that many. Lucky for me I went to work for Eaton in the late 70's machining parts for truck transmissions so I am one of the lucky ones. A few small lathes show up occasionally but the prices reflect the fact. One can get a Bridgeport or a clone quite reasonable, a lot more of them was around.
I also just bought myself a restoration job a few weeks ago... my first lathe a hendey tie bar made in 1906. hard to source parts for old machines and i need gears and was wondering if you could make video explaining how to determine the correct cutter needed to make a gear. Also keep the videos coming they are very inspiring.
I just bought a dividing head. Within a month or so I will have a 10 part series on dividing & gears, gear cutting etc,. But it will take a while to shoot all this. I just spent a bucket of money on what I need to video this.
These "exploring" videos are as fun as your instructional ones! I just got a 10 inch atlas and have been watching your videos like mad, I can not thank you enough for sharing the knowledge!
4:40. White Owl Cigars. "those are mild you know, probably didn't kill too many men" I was fortunate enough to be raised in an era when a "half nut" was always fun and valuable. Thank you for sharing your experience and manly sense of humor.
I just restored a 1951 atlas lathe 101.27740 which was rusted everywhere. I made a trough and submerged the entire bed in a product named EVAPO-RUST, which I bought at my local auto parts store. Overnight it chemically removed all the rust without any pitting or surface degradation. I used it on all the other parts also. It is safe on the skin and penetrates those hard to get places on the parts
I don't know that much about lathes but I know a little something about CRAFTSMAN. In the early 50's Sears changed the logo for it's Crafstman brand, it's a subtle change but pre 1953 the lower leg of the C in the Craftsman logo underlined the rest of the letters in the logo. Your lathe has a post 1952 logo. The only thing that I have heard about Craftsman Timken equipped lathes is that the timkens in the headstock are dated.
I hope to see many more videos with this lathe. I bought the same lathe without the quick change this past summer at a estate sale. A video on gear changing and thread cutting would be very helpfull.
Hi Mr. Pete. I too have a 101.07403, serial number 19681. When I first got it I really wanted to know all I could about it, and in doing some research figured out that is was most likely made in between 44-46. Unfortunately there was not the greatest record keeping at the time so it could be estimated. Either way, long story short, I would venture to guess that your new one is of the same vintage, maybe a little newer. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
I've learned very much about using my Atlas/Craftsman 6" lathe from your videos. Could you explain the merits of mounting lathe cutting bits in a 3-jaw chuck versus a collet and explain the many collet types available?
The bar with the v block and long handle is a action wrench for removing receivers from Mauser's rifles and Springfield and Eddy stone Enfield's and others. Brownells still sell them. Enjoy your education Very much.
Part 2 Minute 9:23 appears to be an action wrench for unscrewing Springfield, Mauser, Winchester, etc. flat bottom bolt action receivers from the barrel. There is no cut out in one side of the round half for the Springfield. That puzzles me. The wrench I made(much heavier) has the cut out. Part 1 minute 15:24 are end mill reducer bushings for the end mill holder that was missing the draw bar. Did you ever find it?? :)
It sure would be easier for us would be machinists to get started if there weren't so many people jacking up the prices so they can add to their collections. I just want one lathe...not 6.
I just dont know what to be sure is included, and which model and size is most reliable. I have spent hours on my lathe today working on my first wobbler steam engine. Thanks to you, mdpete222...... It is so much fun, my neighbors say they see geppetto spending hour upon hours in his workshop. They are always interested and have projects for me! Im in heaven in my shope... You make it more fun.. Thank you tubalcain!
"Another lathe followed me home." LOL Thats your story and your sticking to it arent you mr pete. We know better as we all have that sort of a problem every time we visit the tool shops. Good line though, must remember it. Merry Christmas mr pete.
I have one of those lathes, and somehow the lead screw end bushing housing gotten broke in the web area between the bushing and where it bolts to the lathe, would you be interested in selling the one you have? Like yours, the one I have has the quick change gear box as well. I know nothing about the history of it but it is exactly like yours in having the pot metal gears and will not take too muck of a cut when cutting steel, it was given to me by my brother in which he had all ways re-ground and had new gibs made for it everything movement is good and no slop on the carriage or the cross slide or compound. He had replaced the half nut assembly with the bronze type. Good video and Heck of a purchase with all the accessories that came with it.
At about 9:30, the unknown tool looks like a Wheeler Engineering action wrench (#1) for a Mauser rifle action. The barrel was held in a special vice mounted on a bench an the action was turned using this type of wrench. If all was set up and done properly, the action would not be twisted.
I have enjoyed your unboxing of your new toy. I just bought an old R. McDougall lathe and know very little about it. I've looked on the internet and can't find a lot about it. Anyway, Marry Christmas to you and your family
Mr Pete Very well done video. Even your off topic political humor re what the country needs - old joke but still a good one - good humor and got a chuckle. Quite a haul with the new lathe. Since you are spoiled rotten with a quick change setup you can throw the old change gear setup in MY garbage can. Let us discuss this. My lathe is the same part number not sure about serial number though - would have to look but yours appears identical with exception of quick change - envy envy. It is old mildly abused and well used. Now am getting learned up to cut acme threads for cross feed and compound screws and nuts. The learning brings up my second thank you that I owe from earlier today. I looked at your two videos on cutting Acme threads. Yesterday I drowned in Machinery's Handbook trying to do that lernin stuff. Took some keystock and practiced grinding the tool. Lot easier after you had demonstrated how to use the gage. Your video cut right to the chase and help me do it right. Very well done and thank you. Dan Bentler Seattle
I just bought an atlas craftsman 12" lathe. It came with many 3/8" hss, and I was wondering if 3/8 work well with a lathe this size? Would it be worth my time to find a tool post to accommodate that size?
What a great find with all that extra tooling and equipment! I couldn't remotely follow that auctioneers spiel from here in the UK to have any idea of the prices.
Tubalcain- You showed a steady rest and a follower rest. Thanks to your videos, I'm aware of what a steady rest is for. But I don't recall ever hearing about a follower rest. Do you have any videos of this device in use? Or can you comment about what it's for? Thanks!
hi the follow rest is bolted to the cariage and is mounted in line with the cutting tool when you are machining long shafts or long threaded rods like lead srews for example it stops the long workpiece from flexing , dave in the uk.
New subscriber here. I have the same lathe with most of the same attachments. I have no training but use it for parting bushings and light turning jobs. Would like to learn how to use the quick change. Enjoy your videos, you have a new student. Thanks.
This was a great video. It is so encouraging to see somebody having taken care of all the details e.g. oil dauber etc and now handed off to a great gentleman such as yourself! Congratulations. I have lived vicariously through your good fortune.
THANKS
The little cylinders with the slot in the side that you showed in the first video are bushings for the milling cutter holder. The holder goes in the head stock and is just of one diameter so the bushing were needed to hold the cutters. Got some myself. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas.
Thanks--almost threw them out
So glad I found this comment! My lathe came with a bucket of rust parts, these were in the bottom, I was gonna toss them but my horder side said wait good thing!
I really enjoy your video’s, very informative , just got an Atlas Lathe as a GIFT. I have disassembled it all and cleaned it thoroughly and reassembled it , works great so far . Could not have done it without your Great video’s… keep up the good work
Thank you for watching, I am glad I helped you
Your voice sounds strong, obviously excited about the purchase. Great find!
I was (and am) excited.
I liked the video because it shows lot about the atlas and the different tools and add on. I thought I would go with an old Atlas to lean on and I think they are a very good lathe. I was going to go with a mini lathe but I thought the atlas would be the way to go. Thanks I in joy the videos
Congratulations for your new lathe, Mr Pete and Merry Christmas to you and all your family.
THANKS
I'm posting this relating to part 1 before watching part 2 as it said comments were disabled for part 1. "Collect your thoughts" indeed! Though you are trying, you can't hide the "I just hit the jackpot but don't want to gloat!" (and rightfully so) enthusiasm. When I saw the milling attachment on it, I said "jackpot" to myself. And then more..... and more......and more.......!!!! I'm truly happy for you. Right time right place. It's wonderful when good fortune finds good people like you. You are like a child on Christmas morning, and THIS this gift will keep on giving. Yes, I am green with envy watching this, but in a good way. Congratulations on THE FIND! You deserve it!
THANKS---yes I love doing that
Congratulations on a nice find, Mr. Pete. I'm still chugging along with my 10-inch Atlas, with change gears. Actually, I just now acquired the change gears, so now I have to learn to use them.
Thanks--I will eventuall do a video on changing gears.
Would it be possible to show some of the techniques and methods for cleaning up equipment such this lathe and how to tackle something like that micrometer. Thanks and Merry Christmas from a chilly Spain!
THANKS-maybe
I think i would tackle the surface rust with light oil and lots of brass wire brushes, there's 1 week of clean up there maybe.
You probably know this but the date of manufacturing would be hand scribed in the timken bearings by the person who put it together. I found this out when cleaning up an Atlas TH54 that I purchased and the date on mine was 9/10/46.
did not know that
If anyone was bored by that, they are watching the wrong channel. This two parter was like a pop radio show. This hits just kept on coming. What a score! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute. Thanks so much for posting this. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Mr. Peterson!
blmeflmm66 THANK YOU
I enjoyed your narration and display of the new Atlas lathe. Thank you
+binks166 Thanks for watching
A real pleasure watching you unwrap all the “options” the only thing I didn’t see was a knurling tool, unless one size fits all.
Enjoyed the 2videos...happy holidays!!
You mention Jordan helped you unload, be fun to see the lad!
ATB
Chuck
+outsidescrewball Thanks for watching
I have this exact machine with most of the same attachments except for the drilling table. It is a very versatile machine and I truly enjoy it. I would be very cautious of putting the machine into back gear and make sure the lash on the gears is correct. These Z-Max gears do not take a lot of abuse and I found that out the first time I went to thread and broke most of the teeth off of the bull gear. There is a shimmed adjustment on the back of the headstock to take care of the gear lash issue. Thank you ever so much for all of your videos. They are a wonderful inspiration to me and I am sure many others.
+Wildaire Thanks for watching
Mr. P.,
Lemon juice can be useful in dealing with corroded ferrous metal. LJ contains citric and ascorbic acids. Citric acid is weak, but a good complexing agent. So, it is SLOW to attack metallic iron, but deals with the already corroded material. Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is a reducing agent, which changes ferric to ferrous. Ferrous is easier to bring into solution than ferric.
Rinse with water, dry THOROUGHLY, and oil, after treating corroded areas.
Eli D.
will try
Very cool! Loved the shots from the auction and all the tractors, equipment, etc.
THANK YOU--you are the first one to notice the tractors.
There is almost nothing better in live then buying a new/used tool. I'm a little worried I caught your addiction of buying lathes. Im up to 5 now including a Hardinge HLV. Great job, love it when you share your tool finds. keep it up.
P.s. How much did you get it for?
THANKS--Got 5 or 6 myself
Omg...I just bought this same lathe last week. It is the same size it didn't come fully loaded like yours. It's about the same condition from what I can see. You have one heck of a deal there with the mill attachment and steady rest ect.$$$$$ I will keep a eye out for videos with it from the master machinist. Congratulations on you find
Thanks--glad you got one too. MERRY CHRISTMAS
Great purchase, nice to see all the accessories. A few days cleaning, basic maintenance and lots of lube and the lathe will give you and hopefully others generations of use.
Thank you Mr Pete, I enjoyed watching these videos. I keep telling my wife we need to go to an auction, or at least a flea market and look for things like this. Just looking at some of those tools reminds me of a time when, made in USA meant something. I can feel the excitement in your voice looking through those boxes. Yeah I'm jealous, but there isn't much like that going on around here. You live out there in a part of USA where so much of America was being built. All I have is a 9 inch South Bend lathe that I restored. Again thanks for sharing this find with us. Looking forward to seeing more from those lathes. Ken...Marina CA.... PS, right after WW II when we were buying toys etc, from Japan, people scoffed at their products and said they wouldn't buy from Japan, so the Japanese got around that, by putting made in Usa on their products. Well if you look on a world map, there is a place in Japan called Usa . It;s a tiny place but it served it's purpose in selling their products. Now made in Japan means quality.
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Kenneth Bartlett www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp
martin fontaine: - ) .
What a fun restoration project you have to look forward to, pretty complete also it appears. Nice score, well done.
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Another great purchase. Its amazing that you have all the relevant parts with it as so often these get mixed up as stuff is moved around. Look forward to more video on this lathe. Merry Xmas to you and yours and a Happy New Year. All the best from the UK
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Very nice, I used that same model Atlas for many years, till a couple years ago when I found a Clausing like the one you have. Ran the heck out of that lathe and even made some money with it. Often wished I'd had some of those accessories you just unpacked. I was in Spring Valley earlier this fall, had I known then I was so close I would have stopped in to say Hi. Very much enjoy your videos, and appreciate your contributions to the TH-cam community. Was just watching Crispin unpack his goodies last nite.
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Wow wish we had auctions with finds like that out here, sorry about his passing but came to a good home I think. Amazingly all that together...the more I think about it...Drool...to find that all together...droool...slurp...quite a find...gotta go...welling up...snifff...! Merry Christmas to you and your family!
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Thanks for showing this. It is always interesting to see older machines. But I am amazed that you are able to hear about auctions and then actually get something, and I am assuming at a good cost! I have one of the smallest craftsman’s lathe; made by Sears not craftsman (It would make a good boat anchor). I also have the small four jaw check and a three jaw of the same small size.
Loved the adventure. I have a little 9 inch south bend. Missing the gears. But still like to play with it.
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Hi mrpete,
Saved money from Grizzly store to save an old/new Craftman lathe from bad hands....
Look like Christmas day opening all the boxes, juts the mice beat you to it but, they don't count.
That little lathe has many years in front of it despite it's age.
Happy Holidays to you and family,
Pierre
Thanks & Merry Christamas
What I have to say is "Darn, I wish I were so lucky to find a 12" Atlas lathe"! I have outgrown my little imoort lathe, and want to move up to an ole U.S. Made product! Thank You, I enjoyed watching,,.. Keeps me watching the papers, and Craigs list ads.
+Herb Mindt Keep looking-I see them all the time on CL
Mr. Pete: That long bar you showed near the end of this video with the "V block bolted on looks like an action wrench for removing rifle actions from the barrel. The handle is very long for that, but the rest sure looks like an action wrench. It may be for another threaded connection like the barrel and action connection.
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It would be nice if you made a copy of that manual for the reversing switch as many folks have probably lost the one they got with the lathe. Thanks for sharing and merry Christmas.
+cerberus Thanks for watching
Very Nice Find mrpete222, I certainly would have been very happy with this lathe. Nice video too! Hoping you had a wonderful Christmas, Best wishes for the New Year.
+Chris Duggins Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing, I used to have a 1935 Craftsman lathe which must be quite rare here in the UK. I sold it 3 years ago, the guy who bought has rebuilt it.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas, all the best.
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My dad has a Craftsman lathe. But for wood. Plus 6 shaping tools. have no idea what to do with them, but again, not for metal work.
Thank you for sharing, Mr Pete and Merry Christmas!
I will google it but wondered what are boring bars and why were there so many? I hate mice...
That was very fun to watch, definatly a "what will come next" suprise factor.
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I love when old tools find new life - Thanks for sharing it.
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That long bar with the attached v-block is a gunsmithing tool, used to clamp on to the barrel to facilitate its removal from the gun stock and or receiver.
mrpete222
You are correct, it is a barrel/action wrench.
Andre Gross yes my father was a competitive long range shooter and a gunsmith for the canadian military for over 30 years and i have seen many tools of that trade. lol
Did not know that
mrpete222 it's actually a rifle action wrench. The big end clamps on to the receiver of probably a 98 Mauser. You clamp the barrel in a vise between hardwood blocks and use the wrench to unscrew the receiver from the barrel.
You can find a similar action wrench for sale at Brownells.com
Nice find! Have you ever used black strap molasses mixed with water to clean the rust off of items? A mixer of 6 to 8 parts water to 1 part molasses works great for removing rust. Just get a tub or bucket of some kind to hold the mixed product, drop the rusty parts into the mixer and just let them soak for a few days. Pull out the parts after they have had time to soak and rinse them off with water. It worked great. I am sure there are a few videos on youtube showing the process. The mixer may mold after time, if it does, just skim off the mold keep on using it.
+rysammy I need to try that
To bad you live so far away from California or I would come over and help you clean the lathe up. Looks like a fun project. It is so satisfying to take an old piece of machinery and put it back into service. Happy holidays!
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The big long wrench is an action wrench for gunsmithing Mr Pete
I'm so glad to see that you finally got your 6th, (or is it 7th?), lathe. No man should have to get by with less than a 1/2 dozen lathes! :-)
I'm a woodworker and I have 4 table saws, never can have too many.
Seriously, thanks for sharing and a very merry Christmas to you and yours.
Part of the reason I enjoy your videos is because we're the same age and also your location. I grew up, (or at least got older, not sure if I've ever "grown up") not too far away in Kankakee.
+Luckystrike Thanks for watching
Hi Mr. Pete I have a 12 inch Craftsman early version I bought it back in the 1980s. It is a babbit bearing model non quick change the guy I bought it from was an old school machinist he hand scraped the bed just like you would do on an old Bridgeport. It came with a brass jaw commutator tail stock chuck. It had a city of Detroit id tag on it the guy told me he bought it from the city of Detroit transportation department who used it to rebuild starter motors and generators for city buses. Mine actually runs fairly quiet. One key to setting up the feed change gears it to use a strip of printer paper to set the gap between the teeth and using a high quality synthetic grease lubricant, I find it comical that people tell me an Atlas Lathe is junk because of the "cheap" Zamack gears, then they go out and buy a new Chinese lathe with plastic gears lol. I think a 10-12inch Craftsman/Atlas is ideal because it is a larger swing lathe that two people can easily carry downstairs to a basement workshop. Most of the people who don't like lathe don't seem to get that it is lighter duty homeowner grade machine and try to take heavy cuts at high "production" feed rates.
Rob C Yes--I like the atlas. Good comments. Watch for a whole atlas series coming soon
Have to say even with the rust that's quite a score .When I found my 10 F it had just as much rust , with no tooling an I'm still making stuff up as I go hammer an chisel stile . My first repair was the half nut and the cross feed gear which were purchased from Causing . I gave the nice lady the numbers and she sent a PDF print out so I could pick my part . It dates to the mid 40s . No quick change gear box or gears . Now that small 4 jaw chuck looks like one I have , but it's labelled Dunlap , and sold by Sears . I think it was made by Atlas also from the 40s . Well Merry Christmas any way !
Steve
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Thanks for sharing and explaining some of the parts and uses.
+Wooley689 Thanks for watching
Love these auction-find videos. Thanks.
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Hi Mr. Pete, just watched this video. So almost 3 years later if you are still looking for Manufacturing Date info on the lathe from the serial number, you can contact the Yahoo Group Atlas-Craftsman site and input your model and serial number data. There is a fellow, Robert Downs from Houston, who if he is not currently tied up with flooding issues, tracks the serial numbers on Atlas-Craftsman lathes and he can give you an idea of when the lathe might have been made. Also, if you have not figured out by now, in one of the shots you had some funny looking small diameter bushings with slots in the sides - these go with the milling attachment mandrel or arbor and are the bushings used to adapt the ID of the arbor from 1/2" down to 3/8" and 1/4" for different size milling cutter shank diameters.
What a great bunch of accessories and tooling. I believe I'd take a bath in Lysol though. I'd love to see a video on changing gears. I've got a 10" one I need to slow down.
+Eric Corse Thanks for watching
Always Love this kind of video. Great Find..
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Great video! Wish you and your family a merry Christmas and a happy new year! Try to stay warm up there!!
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Thanks so much for posting your videos, you have an absolutely amazing knowlege, i learn more and more for every video i watch.
Greetings from Sweden.
Thank you very much.
I really enjoyed watching you go through the boxes of lathe bits. It was like watching a treasure hunt. "Oooh! What will he find next?"
+InformationIsTheEdge Thanks for watching
Mr Pete, What a nice Christmas present you bought yourself. I do enjoy all of your videos and have learned from each one of them. When you showed the change gear set, I was envious. I own a 10F Pick-O-Matic Atlas. I run the change gears and sometimes don't have the gear I need. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Have a Happy New Year.
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Nice find.
I was going to comment on the dauber being missing until you found it later. Both of my Atlas/Craftsman lathes have a hole for it, but only one has it.
I wonder if you'll be able to convert it back to use the normal gears without a slightly longer lead screw to take up some of the space that the quick change gear box would.
I think the same screw is used
hey you were talking about removing rust, I don't know if you have already solved the problem, so I will suggest using vinegar, and other mild acids, perhaps some wet sand blasting may help to, finally to prevent further rust... how about electroplating
+Robert Ostman Thanks for watching
Great video Mr Pete, Christmas has arrived early for you. As my Dad would say, A good day at Maxwell Street again. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you Sir, keep up the great videos I love them.
+Toolman22364 Thanks for watching
Great find but what did you pay for it?i.i recently.bought a th54 atlas lathe needing belts and all.new wiring covered in filth. But no discernable wear and milling setup plus boxes and boxes of indicators bases and every conceivable reamer.and.milling cutter mostly all.new and lots of other goodies. I paid $200.because the person sold the house and had not enough room.for everything he had and had 36 hours to get house cleaned out and had a long way to go.
Mr Pete,
Enjoy your videos - I'm a retired Elect Engineer and enjoy building and fixing most anything - and enjoy my home machine shop quite a bit. I have that same 12" craftsman (unfortunatley w/o the quick change gear box). Mine has too much vibration and I've yet to figure out exactly how I want to fix it. I notice that when you turned yours on - it has the same problem - The motor tends to bounce up and down causing that vibration. The motor is mounted on a pivoting bracket with the motor weight tensioning the belt. Have any thoughts on resolving this without removing too much of the origional? ???
Dave W
All my lathes shake. Its a combo of things. The motors are balanced, but not very well. They all vibrate. Every pully shaft, chuck, you name it--is out of balance. It all adds up. On a small light lathe there is little to dampen it. No easy cure
Mr. Pete,
John was correct, that is a barrel wrench or action wrench. it is missing the wooden jaws on the opposite side of the Vee. Brownell's will know, they were in business at that time. The 12" would have been a great gunsmith lathe, possibly just for his own firearms.
+James Hillman Thanks for watching
Thanks. I love my little 12" Craftsman Industrial. I would love to find a threading tool like that. Also the cut-off.
Thanks--watch fleabay. You'll fid such items there
What a nice find Lyle , I was as excited about the lathe and attachments as you
Nice xmas present you bought yourself
Would love to bring one of those back to life---- like I know you will
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANKS
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I may be able to help here. I just bought a Craftsman 12" lathe on Sunday, (somewhat your fault Mr. Pete, I'll be buying your course soon.), and it's a similar model to the one in this video, but not exact; mines a 101-28910. Trying to research the date and found the serial numbers don't tell you much when it comes to Craftsman metal lathe's, but some said there's a date tag in the bed. In looking it over I found it, middle of the bed between the ways. Here's a couple of pictures, the first one shows an upside down "Atlas" cast in the bed on the left of center, and the date tag and another tag on the right, also upside down. My lathe's manufacture date is 2-24-65:
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+ShysterLawyer Glad you bought a lathe! You'll like it. I'll look for that date tag. Thanks
Mr Pete
Am thinking of making my own follow rest. Could you take a couple minutes and take some photos of it with a tape measure in them showing dimensions please?
It would be a very good video showing how it is set up and why followrest is important.
Dan Bentler
Ok Need your email
mrpete222 Here is email
Leitmotif4@gmail.com
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Dan Bentler
nice buy well worth for extras...see if i have luck tool swapmeet...keep up videos..oh that extended shaft can add spindle brake. once again old popular mechanics
Mr. Peterson, my buddy who owns the Logan I worked on runs a mechanic shop. One of his young workers asked him where the can of Elbow Grease was. We had a good laugh over that.
stratocaster1greg When I worked at an elec motor shop, they sent me uptown to buy a jar of reversed polarity
That long bar with a V block at one end with two screws is not junk. It is a nice barrel wrench used for opening rifle barrels in order to crown the chamber.
+Mohammad Hossain Thanks for watching--yes
Good presentation..
I'm new to machining and wish I could run into a good deal on one the older lathes or mills.
Maybe down the road
Regarding the little box of sleeves with square holes...... The sleeves are for the milling cutter holder..... The sleeves allow you to reduce the size of the hole to accommodate different size milling cutters.... The set screw passes through square hole to secure the milling cutter. This is a hard item to find.
+Robert Stevenson Thanks for watching--you are right, I now see them in the old catalog
What is the expected price range for this type of 12" Atlas Lathe
Great find. The thing about living here in the south is good small used lathes are very hard to find. They can be found but at a huge cost and not as nice as the Craftsman you picked up
The north was more industrialized, I guess
Probably so, most of the shops here when I started in 1974. Was making parts for textile mills, a few made NASCAR parts for Holman and Moody. There was some screw machine shops but not that many. Lucky for me I went to work for Eaton in the late 70's machining parts for truck transmissions so I am one of the lucky ones.
A few small lathes show up occasionally but the prices reflect the fact. One can get a Bridgeport or a clone quite reasonable, a lot more of them was around.
I also just bought myself a restoration job a few weeks ago... my first lathe a hendey tie bar made in 1906. hard to source parts for old machines and i need gears and was wondering if you could make video explaining how to determine the correct cutter needed to make a gear.
Also keep the videos coming they are very inspiring.
I just bought a dividing head. Within a month or so I will have a 10 part series on dividing & gears, gear cutting etc,. But it will take a while to shoot all this. I just spent a bucket of money on what I need to video this.
These "exploring" videos are as fun as your instructional ones! I just got a 10 inch atlas and have been watching your videos like mad, I can not thank you enough for sharing the knowledge!
Thanks for watching
Great find. Thanks for sharing!
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Very interesting. I think the box of bushings with square holes in the sides are for the milling cutter holder.
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4:40. White Owl Cigars. "those are mild you know, probably didn't kill too many men"
I was fortunate enough to be raised in an era when a "half nut" was always fun and valuable.
Thank you for sharing your experience and manly sense of humor.
lol
I just restored a 1951 atlas lathe 101.27740 which was rusted everywhere. I made a trough and submerged the entire bed in a product named EVAPO-RUST, which I bought at my local auto parts store. Overnight it chemically removed all the rust without any pitting or surface degradation. I used it on all the other parts also. It is safe on the skin and penetrates those hard to get places on the parts
+1946wilsoke Thanks for watching
I don't know that much about lathes but I know a little something about CRAFTSMAN. In the early 50's Sears changed the logo for it's Crafstman brand, it's a subtle change but pre 1953 the lower leg of the C in the Craftsman logo underlined the rest of the letters in the logo. Your lathe has a post 1952 logo. The only thing that I have heard about Craftsman Timken equipped lathes is that the timkens in the headstock are dated.
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I hope to see many more videos with this lathe. I bought the same lathe without the quick change this past summer at a estate sale. A video on gear changing and thread cutting would be very helpfull.
+Calan Dannar Thanks for watching-you shall
Thank you sir
Hi Mr. Pete. I too have a 101.07403, serial number 19681. When I first got it I really wanted to know all I could about it, and in doing some research figured out that is was most likely made in between 44-46. Unfortunately there was not the greatest record keeping at the time so it could be estimated. Either way, long story short, I would venture to guess that your new one is of the same vintage, maybe a little newer. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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I've learned very much about using my Atlas/Craftsman 6" lathe from your videos. Could you explain the merits of mounting lathe cutting bits in a 3-jaw chuck versus a collet and explain the many collet types available?
+Blackfoxsteam Thanks for watching
You have the midas touch when it comes to finding great old tools. Show us some more of your shaper sometime, maybe do a project on it ?
I will
The bar with the v block and long handle is a action wrench for removing receivers from Mauser's rifles and Springfield and Eddy stone Enfield's and others. Brownells still sell them. Enjoy your education Very much.
+Danne Hughes Thanks for watching-yes
Part 2 Minute 9:23 appears to be an action wrench for unscrewing Springfield, Mauser, Winchester, etc. flat bottom bolt action receivers from the barrel. There is no cut out in one side of the round half for the Springfield. That puzzles me. The wrench I made(much heavier) has the cut out.
Part 1 minute 15:24 are end mill reducer bushings for the end mill holder that was missing the draw bar. Did you ever find it?? :)
It sure would be easier for us would be machinists to get started if there weren't so many people jacking up the prices so they can add to their collections. I just want one lathe...not 6.
I just dont know what to be sure is included, and which model and size is most reliable. I have spent hours on my lathe today working on my first wobbler steam engine. Thanks to you, mdpete222...... It is so much fun, my neighbors say they see geppetto spending hour upon hours in his workshop. They are always interested and have projects for me! Im in heaven in my shope... You make it more fun.. Thank you tubalcain!
+Herb Mindt Thanks for watching--you sure are having fun!
"Another lathe followed me home." LOL Thats your story and your sticking to it arent you mr pete. We know better as we all have that sort of a problem every time we visit the tool shops. Good line though, must remember it. Merry Christmas mr pete.
+Mark Fryer Thanks for watching
Very rare find with all the attachments included.
I like that change gear, video idea. I do not have a quick change.
Excellent auction buy!
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I have one of those lathes, and somehow the lead screw end bushing housing gotten broke in the web area between the bushing and where it bolts to the lathe, would you be interested in selling the one you have? Like yours, the one I have has the quick change gear box as well. I know nothing about the history of it but it is exactly like yours in having the pot metal gears and will not take too muck of a cut when cutting steel, it was given to me by my brother in which he had all ways re-ground and had new gibs made for it everything movement is good and no slop on the carriage or the cross slide or compound. He had replaced the half nut assembly with the bronze type. Good video and Heck of a purchase with all the accessories that came with it.
Thanks for watching. No, want to keep it. They are made light so they break. It is the "shear pin" if the you crash the lathe
Ok, just wondered if you did or not, no harm in asking
You hit a gold mine!
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hi mr pete nice lot you got there and all the exras ,merry christmas to you and your family .dave in the uk.
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At about 9:30, the unknown tool looks like a Wheeler Engineering action wrench (#1) for a Mauser rifle action. The barrel was held in a special vice mounted on a bench an the action was turned using this type of wrench. If all was set up and done properly, the action would not be twisted.
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I have enjoyed your unboxing of your new toy. I just bought an old R. McDougall lathe and know very little about it. I've looked on the internet and can't find a lot about it. Anyway, Marry Christmas to you and your family
Thanks. Cannot say I am familiar with R Mcdougal.
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Very well done video. Even your off topic political humor re what the country needs - old joke but still a good one - good humor and got a chuckle.
Quite a haul with the new lathe. Since you are spoiled rotten with a quick change setup you can throw the old change gear setup in MY garbage can. Let us discuss this.
My lathe is the same part number not sure about serial number though - would have to look but yours appears identical with exception of quick change - envy envy. It is old mildly abused and well used. Now am getting learned up to cut acme threads for cross feed and compound screws and nuts.
The learning brings up my second thank you that I owe from earlier today. I looked at your two videos on cutting Acme threads. Yesterday I drowned in Machinery's Handbook trying to do that lernin stuff. Took some keystock and practiced grinding the tool. Lot easier after you had demonstrated how to use the gage.
Your video cut right to the chase and help me do it right.
Very well done and thank you.
Dan Bentler
Seattle
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I just bought an atlas craftsman 12" lathe. It came with many 3/8" hss, and I was wondering if 3/8 work well with a lathe this size? Would it be worth my time to find a tool post to accommodate that size?
+Dan Carpenter They are ok.. Its just that a toolholder that will hold 3/8 is too big for your toolpost
What a great find with all that extra tooling and equipment! I couldn't remotely follow that auctioneers spiel from here in the UK to have any idea of the prices.
+Dan Whiteford Thanks for watching
Mt Atlas has the old manual gear change - it would be great if there was a video on setting them up.
Tubalcain- You showed a steady rest and a follower rest. Thanks to your videos, I'm aware of what a steady rest is for. But I don't recall ever hearing about a follower rest. Do you have any videos of this device in use? Or can you comment about what it's for? Thanks!
hi the follow rest is bolted to the cariage and is mounted in line with the cutting tool when you are machining long shafts or long threaded rods like lead srews for example it stops the long workpiece from flexing , dave in the uk.
flixtonman Very interesting! I can imagine exactly what you describe. Thanks for the information!
www.google.is/search?q=follower+rest&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9juXVMmPKMOrU-rZgLAL&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
It mounts on the carriage & stays behind the cutting tool
mrpete222 (et al.) Thank you for the replies!
Can metric threads be cut on a Craftsman/Atlas 12" lathe with a quick change gearbox?
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New subscriber here. I have the same lathe with most of the same attachments. I have no training but use it for parting bushings and light turning jobs. Would like to learn how to use the quick change. Enjoy your videos, you have a new student. Thanks.
Welcome aboard and thanks for watching. You 450 videos to go