They’re pretty much equal in terms of power except Mario like bowser has access to his power ups at all times. If sonic could any of his forms at any time then he’d win. Forms like darkspine would wipe Mario. Or even super sonic 2
Bro thinks they have infinite budget to include literally everything across 30+ years of games each. To cover versus stuff (which you should at least watch before critiquing), Bowser had better hax. Nothing substantial on Eggman's side was immune to transmutation (which Bowser can do casually), possession via Boos, being trapped in King Boo's paintings, the Wonder Flower's universe scale reality warping, or, most notably, the Dream Stone. The Dream Stone is stated in game to contain 100,000 dreams, and dreams in Mario & Luigi Dream Team are essentially entire universes of their own, potentially infinite in scale, making the Dream Stone's power 100,000 times universal at bare minimum, or infinite, depending on interpretation. The Dream Stone grants Bowser the ability to grant any wish he desires. The main thing they focus on is its ability to erase anything from existence, but he could also use it to just wish Sage or Metal Sonic onto his side, the latter of which would effectively grant Bowser Eggman's entire mechanical army, since Sage can control the whole thing. They were pretty generous to Eggman, listing plenty of things he doesn't use in the main animation, some of which are a bit controversial to give him, such as the Time Eater, Master Emerald, Metal Overlord, multiple badnicks like the Hardboiled Heavies and the Mecha units, and his Light Man form. Their main arguments are Bowser stat stomping those with cosmic feats and/or being able to just reality warp beyond what Eggman's greater forces could handle, in addition to having answers to Eggmans more wacky tech like the Metal Virus or time altering machines with his own magic (he time travels kind of casually in Yoshi's Island) or power-ups. While I don't agree with Death Battle all of the time, and this is a pretty complicated matchup, I'm inclined to agree with their verdict on this one, even if I do disagree with their points about the loyalty of Eggman's forces, given that Sage can just control most of them. Rant over.
Also, Eggman destroying stars doesn't really mean much here. Bowser has survived both black holes and being at the epicenter of a supernova, both of which he did without power ups. It's also not super important since both characters have large scale reality warping and multiple means of nullifying strength and durability.
You can immediately tell powerscaling TH-camrs are arguing in bad faith the moment they start trying to manifest nonsense like "This Death Battle has been highly scrutinized as one of their worst" or "Nobody takes Death Battle seriously because of their poor research." Okay, buddy. Just keep repeating those things to yourself and I'm sure you can manufacture a consensus.
also, long story short, bowser can't really die either. he survived a black hole in several mario games and can literally live with his flesh stripped off, lol. and in the end of mario galaxy 1, bowser's galaxy reactor destroys the universe as it turns into a giant black hole. long story short, bowser and his minions has taken over most of the universe while eggman has taken over a planet. and that's saying a lot
super forms have been knocked out of it before, like with super sonic and the titans, so a powerful enough hit would be able to push metal out of super neo
And in Sonic Unleashed opening Sonic had his super form removed from him and even knuckles knocked him out of his forms there a lot of evidence that says his form are not perfect.
If you wanna know a better reason why Bowser wins The closest Eggman got to winning, was when he conquered most of the planet Meanwhile Bowser, conquered most of the UNIVERSE twice Also not to mention that yes, eggman’s death egg could destroy stars with relative ease, but even Yoshi was able to do that. Not to mention that Bowser has way more hax, like the wonder flower, which could alter the universe, and the grand star, which the baby version of stars (Lumas) could turn into GALAXIES, so just imagine an adult version of that in bowser’s grasp. Also the fact that Bowser and Eggman at their best, could survive Black Holes, but Bowser can literally resurrect himself after being turned to bone, so most weapons Eggman had wouldn’t be able to put him down permanently TL;DR, Bowser has way more impressive feats and more Hax
I mean he's kinda bias but tbh if the mario character ain't Mario,Luigi,Daisy,Peach,Rosalina,Bowser, Yoshi, and Donkey Kong then they dont stand a chance.
So for anyone thinking the stars are stronger than the emeralds, no. It’s just bowser fused 2 different powers, his shadow form which enlarges his fire breath and makes it stronger and more the star.
Watch the explanation. People who don't watch it ALWAYS complain about the fight. 😮💨 I'm also starting to think the few that complain after watching the explanation just weren't listening at all.
@@Kyata101 thanks man, much appreciated. I did another look through the death battle video and tried to be less biased from the Sonic series side. You can check the video out if you wish, your choice. Thanks for the comment man ❤️
@@_------------_ I agree, the fact Infinite didn’t dodge the Thwomp was a bad treatment for the character as he could probably either hold the entire Thwomp up if he did so. He literally took on Base Sonic twice and knocked him out.
I’m guessing it’s for budget, they can’t go out of their way to show all the battles with the ground troops and the hard boiled heavies. It is also funny though, and kind of shows the vibe infinite had. He’s edgy, tries to be cool and powerful, but kinda was weak, without that phantom ruby he isn’t notable, and he doesn’t have super reflexes like other speedsters, times he appears to are illusions he creates. But hey, credit where it’s due, he would have mass wiped bowser’s army if bowser wasn’t using magic to withstand the gravity.
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Sorry about the audio, still testing my new mic lmao
When you said the eg robot can blow up stars, they were literally about to address that
The fact yous state Mario has no chance against Super Sonic means you underestimate how powerful Mario is and how durable he is
They’re pretty much equal in terms of power except Mario like bowser has access to his power ups at all times. If sonic could any of his forms at any time then he’d win. Forms like darkspine would wipe Mario. Or even super sonic 2
@@Mystify0324True.
@@Mystify0324I don’t want to be that guy but most of the time Mario is in base form fighting his enemies
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Bro thinks they have infinite budget to include literally everything across 30+ years of games each.
To cover versus stuff (which you should at least watch before critiquing), Bowser had better hax. Nothing substantial on Eggman's side was immune to transmutation (which Bowser can do casually), possession via Boos, being trapped in King Boo's paintings, the Wonder Flower's universe scale reality warping, or, most notably, the Dream Stone. The Dream Stone is stated in game to contain 100,000 dreams, and dreams in Mario & Luigi Dream Team are essentially entire universes of their own, potentially infinite in scale, making the Dream Stone's power 100,000 times universal at bare minimum, or infinite, depending on interpretation. The Dream Stone grants Bowser the ability to grant any wish he desires. The main thing they focus on is its ability to erase anything from existence, but he could also use it to just wish Sage or Metal Sonic onto his side, the latter of which would effectively grant Bowser Eggman's entire mechanical army, since Sage can control the whole thing.
They were pretty generous to Eggman, listing plenty of things he doesn't use in the main animation, some of which are a bit controversial to give him, such as the Time Eater, Master Emerald, Metal Overlord, multiple badnicks like the Hardboiled Heavies and the Mecha units, and his Light Man form. Their main arguments are Bowser stat stomping those with cosmic feats and/or being able to just reality warp beyond what Eggman's greater forces could handle, in addition to having answers to Eggmans more wacky tech like the Metal Virus or time altering machines with his own magic (he time travels kind of casually in Yoshi's Island) or power-ups.
While I don't agree with Death Battle all of the time, and this is a pretty complicated matchup, I'm inclined to agree with their verdict on this one, even if I do disagree with their points about the loyalty of Eggman's forces, given that Sage can just control most of them. Rant over.
Also, Eggman destroying stars doesn't really mean much here. Bowser has survived both black holes and being at the epicenter of a supernova, both of which he did without power ups. It's also not super important since both characters have large scale reality warping and multiple means of nullifying strength and durability.
You can immediately tell powerscaling TH-camrs are arguing in bad faith the moment they start trying to manifest nonsense like "This Death Battle has been highly scrutinized as one of their worst" or "Nobody takes Death Battle seriously because of their poor research." Okay, buddy. Just keep repeating those things to yourself and I'm sure you can manufacture a consensus.
Most people are still stuck in season 2, where research standards were different.
You can tell someone's really out of the loop when they call them "ScrewAttack."
also, long story short, bowser can't really die either. he survived a black hole in several mario games and can literally live with his flesh stripped off, lol. and in the end of mario galaxy 1, bowser's galaxy reactor destroys the universe as it turns into a giant black hole. long story short, bowser and his minions has taken over most of the universe while eggman has taken over a planet. and that's saying a lot
"What am I watching?" PEAK. That's what.
super forms have been knocked out of it before, like with super sonic and the titans, so a powerful enough hit would be able to push metal out of super neo
And in Sonic Unleashed opening Sonic had his super form removed from him and even knuckles knocked him out of his forms there a lot of evidence that says his form are not perfect.
If you wanna know a better reason why Bowser wins
The closest Eggman got to winning, was when he conquered most of the planet
Meanwhile Bowser, conquered most of the UNIVERSE twice
Also not to mention that yes, eggman’s death egg could destroy stars with relative ease, but even Yoshi was able to do that. Not to mention that Bowser has way more hax, like the wonder flower, which could alter the universe, and the grand star, which the baby version of stars (Lumas) could turn into GALAXIES, so just imagine an adult version of that in bowser’s grasp.
Also the fact that Bowser and Eggman at their best, could survive Black Holes, but Bowser can literally resurrect himself after being turned to bone, so most weapons Eggman had wouldn’t be able to put him down permanently
TL;DR, Bowser has way more impressive feats and more Hax
Infinte rised the gravity and thowmb uses gravity
did you even watch the explonations and the intros?
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You know I'm getting the feeling that you think no Mario characters can beat any Sonic characters
I mean he's kinda bias but tbh if the mario character ain't Mario,Luigi,Daisy,Peach,Rosalina,Bowser, Yoshi, and Donkey Kong then they dont stand a chance.
@@scanchannel3259 What about Wario?
So for anyone thinking the stars are stronger than the emeralds, no. It’s just bowser fused 2 different powers, his shadow form which enlarges his fire breath and makes it stronger and more the star.
and also being an enraged father at the same time
Bowser was getting jumped and still won! 😂😂😂
Watch the explanation.
People who don't watch it ALWAYS complain about the fight. 😮💨 I'm also starting to think the few that complain after watching the explanation just weren't listening at all.
@@ReluanOctavian th-cam.com/video/OB2ailiyro4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cMlKaKR-6KGwX-g9
Wow, your levels of fanboy are ridiculous
Thank you man, appreciate it.
It's not being a fanboy it's stating facts
@@_------------_ he did both
Nice engagement farming for views dude. Pure rage bait with no substance.
@@Kyata101 thanks man, much appreciated. I did another look through the death battle video and tried to be less biased from the Sonic series side. You can check the video out if you wish, your choice.
Thanks for the comment man ❤️
They did infinite so dirty this was bullshit ong.
@@_------------_ I agree, the fact Infinite didn’t dodge the Thwomp was a bad treatment for the character as he could probably either hold the entire Thwomp up if he did so. He literally took on Base Sonic twice and knocked him out.
I’m guessing it’s for budget, they can’t go out of their way to show all the battles with the ground troops and the hard boiled heavies. It is also funny though, and kind of shows the vibe infinite had. He’s edgy, tries to be cool and powerful, but kinda was weak, without that phantom ruby he isn’t notable, and he doesn’t have super reflexes like other speedsters, times he appears to are illusions he creates. But hey, credit where it’s due, he would have mass wiped bowser’s army if bowser wasn’t using magic to withstand the gravity.
@@odacova3319 that makes sense. It costs a lot of money to hire animators
The animation isn't supposed to be accurate I think eggman should of destroyed bowser but the the animation is really good.
Just because you think doesn't mean it should happen
@frozezone2947 what the hell doe that even mean???
So I'm not allowed to have a opinion