Mail Call Mondays Season 7 #39 - Why I like the 6.5 Creedmoor
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For the AR platform I chose 6.5 Grendel as compared to 224V. Has Decent effective range to learn long distance shooting (new sport to me) and good for hunting. Thanks for the Content!
Thanks for the channel John, love the info and reviews provided. I shoot 6.5 cm myself and love the results. I hand load and absolutely love the diversity of the cartridge. I'm and avid hunter and load 95 gr v max for coyotes, 120 barns lead free for deer, and just got back from my first elk hunt ever and was lucky enough to harvest a 5x5. 143 ELD-X hand loads. 180 yrds into the lungs, and in about 15 ft jumped over the bank and slid to a stop. Have been successful with every load mentioned and love that I can have one rifle for everything I hunt. Very very important to me.
great points as always
Indeed!
Most of my training is with a .223 Rem bolt gun or .17 WSM BMag. My competition gun is 6.5 CM. My go to hunting rifle 26" bull sporter barreled .300 WinMag
I'm a cult follower of the 7mm-08. Given the 162 ELD-M vs the 308 168 SMK, the 7mm gets about 50% greater effective range, bucks the wind better, and longer lasting barrel than the 6.5C. I have, load, and shoot all three... but my 7-08 is the one I find myself grabbing the most. Of course, I'm a lover of the .41 magnum as well.....
Both great cartridges. That .41 has some gusto for its size.
Yah, 7mm-08 smokes the 6.5 Creedmoor. I shoot both.
Man I hear you there, I am a huge fan of the 7mm's!
Don Thursby what does “smoke” mean? 7mm-08 is excellent, but the 6.5 is so close in every relevant way that there’s nothing about one or that “smokes” the other. The 147 ELD has better BC than the 162 ELD.
@Jason Creech who makes your AR10? I have been looking for a 708 upper for my AR10.
Why use 224v over 22-250? If you get a faster twist barrel to shoot heavier bullets it should in theory beat out the 224v with more case capacity it will be able to push bullets faster. So I see no point in shooting 224v over 22-250 with a fast twist barrel. Thanks love the show keep up the good work!
I don't care about barrel life myself, I change my own. And now days they are not expensive. Hunting, yes.Keeps it real.224 Valkyrie fun cartridge.
You hit the nail on the head. 6.5 Creedmore is a magic cartridge, easy to get going, extremely accurate and very versatile. Its a great choice and l shoot it in F Open shooting.
I still use and love. The .308... question for you though, does the 6.5 make the .308 obsolete?
Hudson I say no there are very many proficient shooters with the 308 , they may have to dial more adjustments though
@@talkingrock7011 with that logic you could just use 22lr. Just dial...
or I could use my 338 lapua or 1 of my many others in my firearm collection @@daltonv5206
i run 308 tikka tac in a german gun stock. perform exelent in hunting/traget rifle upto atleast 5oo for me.. guess even more.but har to find longer range.
please do check into those
Why not have both? ;) Picking up a LMT AR10 type gas gun in 6.5CM in a few days. Barrel swaps to 308 in minutes. Perhaps not quite as accurate as a bolt gun... but... I am going to test it and see what it can do in the next 30 days or so!
The AR type rifles for many years, I wanted nothing to do with them (Vietnam ), the cartridge after training with the M-14 308 Winchester the 5.56mm too small. But in 2015, everything changed when I purchased my first AR-15 rifle, bitten real bad. I wanted something more than the 5.56mm so I built an AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel...then an AR-10 6.5 Creedmoor, and yes, I did build AR’s in 5.56mm, but I didn't stop there, I'm watching TH-cam and a guy has bolt action AR-10 in 6.5 CM...pull the pins and change the semi-auto part for the bolt action. They are my go-to guns all the time for FUN shooting. Ruger has a 6.5 Grendel in bolt action rifle, I will if it is the next buying gun.
.224 Valkyrie is a good competition round or varmint round but does not have the terminal ballistics for hunting ethically in my opinion. It is also illegal in many states to hunt game with a .22 caliber round regardless of the case size behind it. For me, I prefer a 6.5 Grendel in an AR15 platform. It will take game both legally and ethically as well as reach out to 1200. I'm still using. 308 for my bolt gun though.
what is the life expectancy for the 6.5 cr barrel?
ABOUT 2500 ROUNDS,HOPE THAT HELPS.
I'm not understanding the shorter barrel life with 6.5 creedmore... compared to what? I understand higher FPS calibers burn barrels fast but 6.5 creedmore is usually between 2760fps and 2900fps on hotter loads.... 3000fps and faster are normally your barrel burners...
John I am a big fan of the 6.5 Creed. Both my Tikka's, with my hand loads, are sub .2" at 100 yards consistently. Shooting them at distance as long as I do my part is very rewarding. I agree on your thoughts of this versatile caliber.
My Tikka 6.5 ctr will be getting it's first woods trip this weekend. Shooting factory Hornady interlocks .5"@100yds 5 shots. Won't hear me complain. Love my Tikka!
Dalton v Hard to beat the Tikka's! I have a CTR and the chassis TAC A1. Great rifles out of the box.
Brian Lewis: Time-out BS...just to prove my point and disprove your typing ( and certainly "shooting" ) let me quote the Brocks Gap 100 yard Benchrest Shoot average groups for 8/23-24,2014. Benchrest rifle 0.2518" first place - last 0.4858...Factory rifle shooters "consistently" at that shoot ranged from 0.5102-1.5098" ...those are "consistent" accuracy averages. I am certain you have several "billfold" groups cut out of when the stars aligned but give us a break. We may have been born at night as the saying goes but sir, it was not last night ! www.brocksgap.com/matches-100yd-benchrest/100-yard-benchrest/
CR Rains you may want to do a little load developement using Scott Satterlee’s method. I didn’t see anything in your comment about YOUR shooting sir. I spend a lot of time prepping quality Lapua brass. Use a mandrel and have consistent run out averaging .001-.002”. Too bad I can’t post my load developement Targets and some in my dope book. Really don’t care what You think or your BS flag waiving. In good conditions .25” is simple if you did your homework and developement good load techniques. You may want to make more time for your loading technique and do it yourself instead of quoting some other “BOOK READING” information.
CR Rains even Dalton above shoots .5” groups with factory for Pete sakes. Are you really that ignorant ?
I still prefer my .17-50 BMG....
Can someone help me out? Kind of a newbie to long range precision. One thing that is never mentioned in the 6.5 vs 308 debate is lethality. Sure, the 6.5 is better than the 308 in many aspects, but it is more lethal, or better yet, lethal enough??
Jon, you're a swat sniper correct? Which would you choose for a duty caliber? Not punching paper. Punching people.
Someone please educate me
I doubt there is much difference in either in terminal ballistics on people. One just shoots a bit flatter at distance due to better BC. Anyone who takes a hit to center mass with a 7.62x51/.308 probably aint gonna be long for this earth from what I have seen in combat. I am sure the same holds true for the 6.5 CM.
What do you think about the Bergera B-14 HMR in 6.5 Creed?
GOOD CHOICE,THEY MAKE THIER OWN BARRELS,SOLID RIFLE.
300 Rem AR
How many rounds can you expect from a 6mm Creedmoor barrel?
A buddy of mine got somewhat less than 2,000 rounds out of his 6 Creedmoor. He didn't bother to keep a precise round count, but he had to replace his barrel in just about 6 months.
.260 rem has more performance 😉
for 50% more cost and 100% less options and availability. 😉
Yes, but marginal, and where i live 260 isn't a on the shelf ammo item. I don't always think having to order ammo is a good thing. But i see your point.
Agreed, Yuriy. I have a coupe of 5 gallon buckets of once fired 308 brass and readily convert it to 7-08 and 260. Cheap to shoot if you reload. Not so much if ya buy factory.
It's also a dead cartridge. I've never seen any 260 rifle or ammo in a gun store.
It'sIts out ere David but not as common as the creed. More hunting centric stores will have it, not wally world or other big box stores.
"ValkURie"
6.5 vs 308 100fps difference so if you have a 308 don't waste your money or that elk.
6.5 creed for my go to. 224 to me is junk.
.243 bolt and 6.5 Grendel AR
270 Winchester.
Great chat man, I have a true bolt action AR15 upper chambered in 224 Valkyrie. All the benefits of the AR15 aftermarket and weight and size of the platform but with a 3 lug precision built action. The company who makes it is Uintah Precision. It’s an upper so pop two pins and you’re back to any semi auto. I also have the AR10 version in 6.5 Creedmoor. The Valkyrie has been really fun to shoot, low recoil and low cost of ammo but capable of 1,300 yard shooting which I have done. I just tested the 95 Sierra with my 1:7 twist and it shot three groups with three different charges of RL17 at less than an inch loaded to mag length without any development. I highly suggest trying one out. Great fun and my wife enjoys shooting the Valkyrie too
Also the bolt action is gentle on brass not tearing it out of a hot chamber and throwing across the range.
I run a 700 .308 varmint barrel all aftermarket parts. Love it
If you enjoy replacing burnt out barrels often then you'll love 6.5 Creedmoor.
Source: dmr-llc.com/?p=246
I don’t see a place for the 224 Valkyrie in a bolt rifle because it doesn’t offer anything that does already exist in either 223 or 22-250. For non reloaders the ammo availability kills the 224. Just my $.02
Precisely. You get a 22-250 with adequate twist and you don't see much difference. Valkyrie is an AR only option to extend range if you insist on a .224 caliber.
Thanks for saying the exact same thing he said....great input
7mm08 for most hunting and 7mag for anything bigger than a deer. Better BC than 6.5 Creedmoor and a bigger hole. 7mm08 is also easier to get to sub-sonic. Nothing wrong with 6.5 creed, I have 3 differant rifles in 6.5 creed. 284 Winny is awful hard to beat a well. Just my two cents from a seasoned hunter and long range paper puncher. Have Merry Christmas.
7mm-08 is very underated by most but very capable! The 7mm Rem Mag is awesome and the first gun I got due to its ability to reach out there and put it down hard!
Lately I’ve been running a Bergara HMR in 308 for my general purpose rifle, in my AR, 6.5Grendel. I can’t get behind the 224 Valkyrie over the Grendel
my choice of Tikka was in .308 and doing great with Lapua Scenar ammo. I wont exceed 500 rounds per year so i have long time of no worry of barrel life.
Wait a minute, it's Wednesday.
What are your opinions on the 6.5x47 Lapua?
I love 6mm Creedmoor, but I don't recommend it unless you reload, or if you custom build one with the chamber you need to shoot a given factory round. 6.5mm Creedmoor is pretty much stable in terms of chamber / reamer variants (or lack thereof) and twist rates, and should be the go to chambering now.
A model seven 6mmBRX.
As far as the 224 valkyrie goes and a bolt gun, I'd pick the 223over it. . If a 223 is set up right 90 grain bullets work great and 2800 fps is safely attained.
6.5 Creedmoor has been around for 10 years.
Please stop saying "Caliber" when referring to a Cartridge. Sounds stupid when I hear it.
224 keep it gas. 300 win mag 308 6.5 deer hunting. Hornady 143 eldx puts em down at distance.
my go to calibers a 6.5 creedmoor and 7mm remington magnum
2 of the best long range cartridges outside of the big magnums
I’ve not really jumped on the “new cartridge” bandwagon. My long(er/ish) range setups all use either .223/5.56, .308/7.62x51 or 7mm RM. This keeps my inventory standardized, simple and based on well-established, commonly available cartridges I SHOULD be able to always find. I’ve got my DOPE, data tables and calculations for each rifle/load combination I typically run and have verified them under many different conditions. I’m sure my .308’s will be out-shot by a competent shooter with a 6.5 Creedmoor but I generally hold my own against any fair weather or weekend/recreational shooters with fancy caliber guns but limited skill (this is especially true when shooting on the “unknown distance” range or out-of-position). I’d rather be a capable shooter with a mediocre gun/cartridge than a mediocre shooter with a capable gun/cartridge and I just don’t have the money or the time to develop all the data and calculations for each trendy new cartridge that someone in marketing decides to roll out.
6.5 Creedmoor is my go to for medium game hunting (Whitetail, mule, and pronghorn.)
Thank you for the good information. I was trying to decide between .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. As a new shooter to long range, this really helped.
And boom just like that your channel gets blocked from my feed! I’m over you blowing up that pos need more as anything but needmore. It needs more velocity thus more case capacity. It needs way more to make it an effective hunting round. It has nothing on a 260 Rem that’s been around for 40 years or so already. It can’t beat a 25-06/out to 500 yards with conventional bullets and now they are making 135 grain high BC bullets for the 25 your need more will never be better than the 25. And I consider it on the small side of capable rounds. I have so many calibers in my safe that will kill game effectively and humanly. And I do know what a real pos it really is. You need more guys are wounding more game that gets away than any thing else I’ve ever heard of. So don’t try contacting me or arguing. Because if you argue with me over it I know you’ll never get it.
I USE THE 6.5 FOR HUNTING, AND WITH THE NOSLER 120 BT WITH A SD OF .246 WHITE TAIL WITH 45 GRAINS OF H4350 AND GET A .5 MOA AT 100 YARDS WORKS GOOD FOR ME,YES DEER SIZED GAME, I DO NOT RECOMEND IT FOR ELK UNLESS YOU KEEP UNDER 300 YARDS, AND WITH THE HEAVY BULLETS, FOLLOW THE RELOADING BOOKS FOR YOUR OWN NEEDS, THE COMP SHOOTERS SHOULD FIND IT VERY GOOD IF THAT FLOATS YOUR BOAT, JUST HAVE TO GET PAST THE HYPE,WELL THERE YOUNG MAN HAVE GOOD LUCK SHOOTING. GOD BLESS.
6.5 Creedmoor seems to be more accurate and definitely has less recoil than a .308. The .308 definitely is a better cartridge if shooting a very large buck or larger game. I don't like recoil and they are both favorites. If deer hunting, I could be using either one, but I would prefer to have the .308 on the larger deer or bigger. I hate having to trail deer. I have so many rifles it is hard to choose a favorite.
My go to is a 223 in bolt just messing around, I’m retired I watch guys everyday shooting there 6.5 Creedmoors at 100 to 300y, thousands of rounds a year, WHY!
Not sure about the 224 Valkyrie.but I stick with my 308 that old farm truck is still working for me
Plinking long range I’m with the 6.5 creedmoor. For hunting I like my .308.
Thanks for picking my question. You covered all the points I was hoping you would. Great show as always.
308 and 6.5 creed, Bolt and semi-auto in each thanks to your AI reviews and Mega Arms builds.
I think my next AR will be 6.8spc. I hear that the military is looking at the 6.8spc as the next upgrade for the AR. I think from what I've been able to find that a AR 6.8spc and bolt gun in the same would get you one heck of an effective fighting combo.
The military wants a 6.8 mm bullet, but they want it to be moving at 3500 fps. They want something that's (as far as I can tell) impossible. But mostly, they are not looking at the 6.8 SPC II. If you want high performance, and something other than 5.56, get a Grendel.
define good barrel life with a 6.5 Creedmoor , before its toast
I will trade my 6.5 CM upper for one in 7mm-08.
Little by little 6.5 Creedmoor is becoming my Go-To cartridge. I've used it on targets, hogs, and coyotes all to excellent effect. That said, I went out coyote hunting on the plains a couple of weekends back, and I skipped the 6.5 Creedmoor in favor of .243 Win. I just couldn't pass up that trajectory.
If you like the 243 you have to try the 6BRX or the 6 dasher!
@@andy347495 a 270 win will out shoot both those guns. very little choice for bullets tho.
@@dalemaloney255 i think we have different ideas if what outshooting is.
6.5cm was created for competition shooting.
I agree with the 6.5cm for long range and hunting. I just took my first mule deer with a 143gr eld-x out of my AI AXMC, and the amount of energy it dumped into the animal made for a clean kill.
What distance was the shot, approximately?
Quotre-" I just said fuck all in 14 minutes"!
6.5x55 SE for all purpose rifle
Your rifle is a"platform" for what exactly? Let's stop using "platform" or "system" to describe rifles. The use of these faddish terms separate the mindless internet gun experts from professional gun practitioners.
Nah. I am going to keep on relaying information with words that are accepted terms in our industry. You are of course free to use whatever words you choose to describe whatever you are speaking about.
My go to is a 243 in a Ruger rpr
Boring, and I'm gone
I dont understand why anybody would take 65 cree when 260 rem does everything and more
6.5 HAS A TWIST OF 8 THE 260 HAS A TWIST OF 9,THERE FOR THE 6.5 IS BETTER AT RANGE AND A LONGER THROAT,BUT YA CAN REBARREL THE 260 AND THROAT IT OUT YA WILL NOT BE ABLE SEE A DIFFERANCE,ETHER ONE ARE GREAT HUNTERS,GOOD LUCK.
@@wadepederson8457 most 260 rem rifles use a 1/8 twist...
AR-15: 6.5 Grendel Type 2 - lightweight, energy like a (.308) with better ballistics. Can hunt with it in any State. Ammo is generally cheaper than (.308) of same brand and line. Hornady 123gr SST gives the best 100 yards groups followed by PPU 120gr HPBT, then the Hornady Black out for my 18" 1:8 barrel.
AR-10: (.308)-Groups better than my nearly identically built 6.5 Creedmoor at 100 yards using ammo of the same brand and line. Gas gun "Plinking" and hunting ammo is of a much wider and cheaper variety. Freedommunition remanufactured 155gr HPBT and 150gr FMJ run well and is capable of 1 MOA groups. Winchester 150gr Deer Season XP gets the best groups at 100 yards (sub MOA). The only 6.5 Creedmoor ammo I tried with it is the 125gr Winchester Deer Season XP and the Hornady 143gr ELD-X because those were the only offerings I could find below $30/box at the time (neither sub MOA; 1.0 -1.25 MOA). The 6.5 Creedmoor has a high 'floor' price wise which is steadily lowering.
Bolt Action "Precision": 6.5 Creedmoor - 6.5 Creedmoor ammo made for "precision" shooting I found to be cheaper than (.308) of the same brand and line (Hornady SST, ELD-X, ELD-M, others) because I guess it takes so much to get a (.308) anywhere near the performance of a 6.5 Creedmoor beyond 500 yards.
Bolt Action "Hunting": (.308) although (.308) can cost more in the 'precision world, no other caliber has the variety of hunting bullets[ in grains] and the price 'floor' of the (.308). The Ruger American Standard shoots Remington Core-Lokt 150gr PSP very well.
In regard to the .224 Valkyrie, I'd imagine the .223 WSSM resoundingly trumps it and the closely related chamberings in terms of case capacity, along with being a little friendlier to bolt action applications. I'd be concerned about the bolt head for a semi-auto but I am surprised the .223 WSSM AR-15 hasn't taken off in more restricted states. Whilst talking about the WSSM chamberings, there's also the .243 WSSM which is also available (Olympic Arms is the most notable manufacturer that comes to mind) and has been for quite some time yet I can't recall quite the same amount of hype that the .224 Valkyrie, 6.5 Grendel, .22 Nosler, 6.8 SPC, 6 Creedmoor, or 6.5 Creedmoor has had.
Question for #MailCallMonday:
There have been some people asking in the comments of this video (th-cam.com/video/gzdVHnLaD-E/w-d-xo.html) when the full review will be coming for the 3-9x40 Leupold VX-R Patrol. I'm working on getting a Mk.12 Mod.0 put together, and while a 3-9x36 Mark 4 MR/T would be prefered, I understand that they aren't so easy to come across as compared to the newer offerings from Leupold and Nightforce. So, what would your opinion be, along with the pros/cons, between the 3-9x40 VX-R Patrol and the 2.5-10x42 NXS? What are the benefits of a SFP in that magnification over a FFP?
I enjoy target shooting, but generally use my rifles for hunting. First few rifles were a 270win, 30-06 then a 308. Bought a tikka ctr in 6.5...it's definitely my favorite. What a sweet shooter! It definitely makes me want to shoot more. And factory ammo is affordable(although the shelves got hit HARD this hunting season for 6.5...can't blame them). I'll be taking it with me into the woods this weekend for it's first hunting season. Looking forward to the results. Going to be testing hornady interlocks, bosler ballistic tips, and Hornady eld-x on whitetail(4 doe tags plus a buck tag). Curious to see how they do
Hey John, finished my 224 build a few weeks ago. I went with a 1/6.5"twist 22"wilson combat barrel and jp internals. Only factory ammo I have shot was fusion and it grouped them horribly. I bought 200 rounds of once fired brass from a known source that shot all rounds with his daughters rifle. I turned the necks and everything else I could imagine worked a ladder test up to 27 gr of 414 and topped them with 95 gr smk. They progressivly got tighter and tight till I got to my Max loads. 1/3" is where it shoots, I had many more tunning issues than normal however now have it cycling reliably after going to small base dies. Looking fwd to running it at a few matches. It's a great shooter.
Great Vid Bro'. My "Go-To" rifle caliber for me is still the 308 Winchester. But then again, I am more of a hunter than a Competitive Shooter, that appreciates the ability to reach out there and shoot some tight groups at 600-800 yards to "see if I still got it". If I wouldnt have been prior military (Ret.) where I had access to tons of 7.62x51 Brass (literally), Id probably go 6.5 CM as well. To me it came down to economy, practicality and performance, not specifically in that order.
I have a 224 Valkyrie , craddock , bartlein barrel. It shoots great but when the barrels that long it no longer feels like an AR, I may go back to .223, plus it's scary I don't see many people having good luck w Valkyrie hand loads. It makes me think theirs some inherent flaw, like others. Getting a good load w 6.5 creedmoor is easy, why so many issues w Valkyrie. I have no interest in the BA Valkyrie either.
Ballistically, isn’t the 6.5 Grendel about the best cartridge in the AR15 platform? Real world results of the Valkyrie have seemed to be somewhat underwhelming in comparison to the Grendel.
I think a 224 Valkyrie in a PRS platform could be very interesting. You can run a lighter Barrel and lighter overall weapon system, and not have to worry so much about overheating. One of the vented carbon fiber barrels could be really neat there. Also it's got a nice short powder column which makes for more consistent burn, and I'm pretty sure you can run it in one of the many style actions such as the one that howa is producing! Having a rifle that was a couple pounds lighter on a day of PRS match shooting could really make a difference in fatigue in the final stages. And that said, there's no one saying you can't run in the gas gun open division! Then you kind of get to have your cake and eat it too
Lots of people own .223 and .22-250 bolt rifles for target and varmint and small game hunting, so I don't see why the .224 Valkyrie wouln't flourish in the bolt rifle world since it outperforms both.
My preference is 308 for few reasons, long barrel life, I would even say you buy a 308 for life, cheap and great variety of ammunitions that you can find anywhere, and no recall. You can do it all with a 308 and if you reload you get a ton of different brass and bullets. To sum it up, versatility, reliability, avaibility , durability and cost.
224V looks neat, but only in a semi auto platform, but brass is bolt gun loading expensive and fragile. Maybe it will lead to more fast twist 22-250 barrels being produced.
I shoot just prs style matches and don't really hunt at all. My current rifle is barreled in 6mm Creedmoor that's almost burned out and I think I'm going to switch to 6 Dasher seems to have a little longer barrel life and is still in the 6mm family.
The Hornady american Gunner has not shot over moa out of my Tikka in 6.5 creedmoor. I like the 6 mm creedmoor but I think the 6.5 is more versatile.
.308 and .243 because that’s what I have and they are tried and true. I’d upgrade to 6.5 or 300 win mag but not necessary yet.
The 6.5 mm Creedmoor was my first cartridge. It makes sense that the .224 Valkyrie will be my AR-15 cartridge. Keep up the good work as we always look forward to Mondays.
Why do the 6.5 Creedmoor barrels ware out so quickly?
So many factors...you can burn any barrel out with high round counts but speed and rate of fire are two major factors. Bottom line is don’t heat up your barrel to extremes temperatures and don’t shoot high velocity ammo... shoot match grade ammo only because it’s almost always slower by 200-300 FPS.
@@sub_second_life3174 6.5 creedmoor is the only one that I seen a lot of people complain about the barrel wearing out so fast. I still shot it. but I feel like you have to keep an account of how many you shot before you know when to replace it.
Troy Byrd round count is different from barrel to barrel. It doesn’t matter. Some people will get 2k some people will get 3k. As I said before it’s many factors. It’s not always the caliber trust me. People speak of many things they know very little of... a 243 Winchester is a great caliber but that caliber is known to be a barrel burner because it shoots small bullets very very fast. Anything over 2700 FPS will burn up any barrel. Just don’t shoot fast and stay in the shade when possible. 6.5 creedmoor is very fairly priced at $1.20-$1.50 for quality match grade ammo and it is a 1k yard laser beam all day
I've seen junior shooters with bolt guns in 224 valkyrie. Due to less recoil, maybe has a spot there? Just a thought.
I think the 22 creedmoor would make a better bolt gun..6mm rem is a good all around gun too..
You spoke about barrel life a few times referring to the 6.5 Creedmore. Please elaborate. What kind of life can one expect from this caliber? Round count?
Thanks!
2500 RIGHT AROUND THERE, DEPENDS ON THE RIFLE CARE, AND KEEPING THE HEAT DOWN, GOOD LUCK.
ONE CALIBER AND ONE CALIBER ONLY, THE BUSTIN .308 ALL THE WAY
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I love my 6.5 Grendel!! M4E1 Although I do have 6.5 CM in the works M5E1.
6.5cm is very nice and great for hunting inside say 500 yards if hand loading and you are a good shooter and can read wind
What are your thoughts on the 25--06 cartridge?
Got both 308 and 6.5. I like the 6.5 better, but not much.
it is the same ballistic like 6,5x55 SE from 1894
Does fluting your bolt mess with anything
What is the height of that nf mount on that rifle?
It was videos like this one that resulted in my purchase of an RPR in 6.5C. For me, this is more about precision shooting for fun. The rifle is relatively heavy. That said, in heavy brush like we have here in Louisiana, I have a Marlin .45/70G that handles anything inside 200 yards effortlessly, though it kicks like two mules. And you never know when you're going to have to contend with a rhino. :P
270 wsm and 308 win
If you can't read the wind it doesn't matter wich cartrige you use but understand the reason to shoot the 6.5 because of the less recoil. I was always a .308 shooter and i see no reason to switch to a different cartrige.
Less recoil, more wind deflection and less drop for unknown distances. Beats the .308 in every category excepet for energy. Although, the added .308 energy isn't necessary. 6.5CM will take down elk.
Building a a10 6.5 thank you for the info.
That is a SEXY rifle!
243 is probably the best all around cartridge when you factor in cost vs availability vs usage. 243 has a broad spectrum of projectiles available and wherever you shop, its always in stock.
6.5 CM it is! I’ve been debating between this and 308 for my first rifle to buy this Black Friday thanks for the review 👍🏽
I see what Meh says about his pick 7mm-08 and would have to disagree based partially on cartridge availability. When was the last time you saw 7mm-08 on the selves for sale at your local gun shop or sporting goods store? The 6.5 Creedmoor is readily available just about anywhere. The 6.5 CM has plenty of knockdown power and high BC at most yardage. Choose wisely.
Im a 6.5 cm guy myself, but really enjoy .308 as well. Only problem i see is people overlook 6.5cm limitations going from paper to the hunting realm....it does so well at long ranges newbies dont take into account the loss of energy when trying to go the distance on a hunt. This is not an elk gun guys, yes you may have success at shorter distance, but even then there are much better choices for that energy dump into the animal. Deer and like size animals or smaller, the 6.5cm with right bullet type is devastating. So in otherwords, 6.5 is well rounded as long as you understand YOUR applications of use. Btw im a target shooter, plinker, and hunter as you mentioned and agree with all you mentioned.
I shoot with a man who took one to Africa with great results
@@talkingrock7011 what did he harvest?
I'm a 6.5cm fan, but I do understand the limitations of the cartridge, how ever I just returned from my first elk hunt and was lucky enough to harvest a elk in my first season out. ( OTC DIY public land hunt) i argue that if your more familiar and comfortable with your cartridge and rifle take what you already have. I was so much more confident having my rifle that I've shot 3000s + rounds through then a so called elk friendly cartridge, and having to make a 550 yard shot with said other caliber. Confidence and shot placement make for a more successful hunt 95% of the time in my opinion. I was lucky enough to only shoot a standing 180 shot with my hand loaded 143 ELD-X 6.5 CM. destroyed his lungs, and walked 15feet jumped over a bank and slid to a halt 50 yards down the mountain. Bullet dumped good energy and found chunks of his lungs in his throat. Know your limits, fallow ethics and get as close as you can no matter the cartridge.
Welder6131 I do not remember the specific name but they were 800 lb. animals his PH had doubts and told him he had a rifle he could use but after the first harvest it wasn’t mentioned again
@@talkingrock7011 glad to hear he was successful, again i love the cartridge....just think there are better options for larger game psersonally
My go to is 7mm rem mag