@@jaymorsis-official It does SOUND like envy (the OP's comment, that is!). I am not able to hear his tone through the computer screen. So, I can't be sure - but still tend to agree with you.
VERY GOOD! AGREED! People who envy the so-called "rich" are losers. Plain and simple. And in my experience, that's all too many people. Whether it means "most people"...I wonder?
The world is driven by ambition and ambition can take many forms, among them: +Greed=>wealth accumulation +Envy=>status and privileges of others +Idealism=>a hypothetical superlative moral/ontological good +Loyalty=>to serve and improve one's group
On the surface this is a great message but in the real world all I want is an ability to keep a roof over my head and enough food to maintain a fit body, I'm doing without the roof right now but the food thing is getting tougher and tougher by the day.
Its easy for this bloke to not have envy coz hes rich and can do whatever he wants. Personally i dont care if other people are better off compared to me, same as youre saying I just want to be able to survive and have some time left over for fun
@@Anthonyj.Manttaneverything is a choice, and choice isn’t a matter of your balance sheet. Everyone has a budget. You pay your bills, pay for what sustains you, put money into savings for the first two things I mentioned, and with what’s left that’s when you help others by donating to charities, giving gifts, or treating you and your family to some luxuries. You don’t need a $1500 cell phone, fiber optic internet, the premium cable package, or buying the cheapest Rolex. Anyone who does that is projecting an image, they’re selfish and they envy people who have more than they do. Do you have any idea how many domestic abuse shelters would love a donation? The people who manage mutual aid funds wouldn’t say no to any kind of donation either. The UN needs plenty of help. Millions of kids around the world have malnutrition and in the US there are several TV networks dealing with food and cooking, not to mention food eating contests where the person who eats the most food the fastest wins a prize. That’s why ET doesn’t visit us, we’re selfish assholes!
Envy made the rent to go up. People move to cities with more opportunities, this situation creates more demand on housing, landlords drive the rent cost up, so, they can afford luxurious life. It is all what he talks about. Look at the companies that produce food - their management brings prices up just so they can have huge bonuses. That's envy, cause they see other competitors do the same.
@@BederikStorm I believe your example isn’t fully considering the full picture or defining terms properly. First, you said people move to cities where there are more opportunities. If that premise is true and a given city is experiencing growth the commercial real estate industry would also grow. More apartment complexes would be built, large companies that own networks of apartment complexes would buy existing apartment complexes and renovate those complexes to make their apartments look nicer and have more amenities. Competition to get people to lease apartments and recover the cost of renovating or building the complex is creating all kinds of jobs in the local economy. You have construction obviously, construction materials sales, bank loans, insurance to cover the bank loans, utilities companies have to increase their capacities and run new infrastructure for electric, water and sewer, you need building permits, licenses, you always need accountants and auditors, advertising, sales, security, landscaping, and a lot more. All of those people work, get a paycheck, spend money at the local grocery store, clothes store, gas stations, gyms, hair salons, pharmacies and so on. Everyone is supporting everyone else, and all paychecks are paying taxes for Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, Tri-Care, VA Benefits and Prison Bureau health insurance, Social Security, NASA, and everything else in the government. If a landlord raised rent without doing any renovations or adding any amenities that would defined as greed not luxury, but you can always go to a different apartment complex, buy a house through HUD, or get a roommate.
In many cases, envy can lead to irrational decisions and unnecessary stress, as we constantly compare ourselves to others instead of focusing on our own goals and contentment. Munger's insight sheds light on a fundamental human emotion that can have both motivating and destructive consequences.
There's no great wealth. There's great wealth among a very few and the rest of us are poor. A lot of people can't even afford to have a family. Having an air conditioner doesn't make up for that.
Air conditioner. roads. firefighters, police, politicians, military, government services. Acesss to all kidns of food and water for free. Clothes, beds, furniture, kitchens, acccomodation, sanitation and bathrooms, Medical care. but yeah air condition is what matters.
I remember the study done when they asked if people would choose 50k and everyone else got 25k or 100k and everyone else got 200k. The overwhelming majority chose the former. It makes sense because if everyone has relatively more value than you then you are poorer in real terms due inflation and vice versa. Our desire to be better than others is more important than the absolute improvements though whcih is the important takeaway.
@@claudiamanta1943Yes. We played a version of that in psychology class way back when I was in college. Well my professor did and we weren't aware of it till afterwards. Ours was based on grades rather than money.
Envy, greed, etc..., which are all under Fear and Survival. It is primal. Munger wasn't a saint either to get to the level of power and influence he held, so wherever he was is not for me to say, but he was no saint or nice guy. He kind of reminds me of the character in "It's a Wonderful Life," Mr. Potter. I do not admire very rich and powerful people, that's one of the reasons this country is the way it is.
In my experience many people take casual talks/ jokes very very seriously that leads to envy jealousy which happens and destroys everything good in future. One should stop and think 🤔. People should learn to ignore more often things that they consider negative which should never result in envy. That's the way of life of successful people and one of the mantra for success.
Very much in agreement. Hearing something upsetting or disagreeable does nothing except giving you the options to choose caring about it or shrugging and moving on.
@@nweidelthis is what i heard koby Bryant's Coach say on stage. He said kobe would forget quickly in the sense that he didn't hold things against people because he understood that doing so would only distract him from achieving his goals.
There's a greater divide between the haves and have nots now than during the Depression. That's leading to society being more dangerous, driven by envy but also desperation.
Envy is not good for the country's economy, making others feel bad just because they are more hardworking is not good in any sense. Instead they should take inspiration and do what they can do, Envy is a feminine trait, Men are brave.
You hit it RIGHT ON THE NAIL! That's exactly what I always say. Learn from the successful. Use them as inspiration. The last thing we would want to do is envy them!
Its their fault tho. All people have to do is gather up together with bunk beds and split all costs, but too many people are envious of each other to the extent that they can't live with one another.
“The world is not driven by greed, it’s driven by envy”. Charlie Munger “There is nothing more counter productive than envy”. Charlie Munger. “Envy is a really stupid sin because it's the only one you could never possibly have any fun at.” "Generally speaking, envy, resentment, revenge and self-pity are disastrous modes of thought”. Charlie Munger. This means the world is driven by a counter productive, stupid, sinful and disastrous mode of thought. Yet “the world is 5x better off than it used to be”. Charlie Munger Maybe there I some merit in envy…
Actually rich dude, I’m unhappy because my same exact bills are 30% more expensive and companies and people who want to exploit others are buying up all housing, so unlike when you were young, I am paying a mortgage price to infinitely rent.
HEY! His name is Charles Munger. You address people by their given names! Furthermore, no one gives a flying flip about your bills! That's NOT Mr.Munger's problem, nor mine, nor anyone else's. Stop whining, and stop being rude to people who made it in this world!
@@victoriasegall3404 I address people how I please. And I am well aware that people don't care about each other, thats kinda the problem. Maybe Charlie should stop assuming he knows what makes OTHER people unhappy. He doesn't know me at all, he just assumes he does cause he is rich, so he MUST have all the answers. I'm not envious of others belongings, nor am I an arrogant braggart (neither is mungeee) about what I have that others don't.
Well improved in some ways not others not matters of virtue of character now some people don't dare want to be successful etc. or they will targetted by narcissistic rage.
Lol 0:25 "everybody's five times better than they used to be" . The guy in Mcdonnals is not 5 times better than the 1950s when this guy was young. Biggest lie ever.
@@benchmark3332 . Taking a carefully selected sliver of the whole (white male 50’s high school kid working in an entry level position) does not prove your point.
You don't know what to do about it? You can have a system based on freedom rather than enslavement, a system where effort counts for something, where law makes sense and is enforced equally-not a system built on obedience which benefits primarily a circle of dynasties at the top.
Where has that society ever existed? Every society is hierarchal where there’s winners and losers, but he’s not wrong. People lives are objectively way better than even 100 years ago, but all people do is complain.
I'm poor and have 0 envy in my life, I never look at what others have and wish them bad or want it, and I really don't care if you're doing much better than me, I'm gonna focus on me and improving my life, I think that was his point, and I agree, I have been envious, and it's way more fulfilling being without it, rich or not
These men are not to be admired. They live with the guise of simplicity and humility but in reality their public perception is curated and trimmed by a team of professionals. They have greatly profited from a monetary system that will inevitably render every American penniless and homeless. They are part of the problem..
Correct and for most envy of something that you can’t achieve like a nice body and good looks. As that is impossible for 99 % of the people on earth , money or drugs is the second most wanted things to achieve.
People are still disenfranchised. I mean, empathy is that people are still upset over that, despite that people’s lives are not as bad as they were in the 50s.
The majority of our fellow citizens are exceedingly envious, and, if not for the law, would even raid your fridge. You have something I want, why should you have it and not me, I deserve it more than you, - then the criminal step- I am going to take it from you. Which is why Shakespeare's Iago is the most evil character ever created.
@@vladimirgetselevich4704 yes. people in america don't know how average rich people do to save their money. most of them they try to inherit their money to their children. and for that literally they keep repeating dirty shits to maintain their legacy. seriously. funny to see people blaming person who donate most of their wealth
He’s clearly come from a time in life way more difficult than any of us will ever likely experience. And he’s right, envy drives people to overspend their incomes which puts people in debt which in turn prevents people from accumulating wealth. Charlie Munger was not oblivious.
Please don't fall into the trap to think that it is easier for him because he's rich. I know about a woman who ownes about ten houses and whines about the worries she has about them. He is absolutely right. I know it is tough for a lot of people. But most of us don't have to worry if they can eat tomorrow. I used to have little money a few years. I focused on the main things: Food and my Apartment. Everything else I tried to get used or for free (my first car was a small 12 year old one). You can get a lot of things for free, like furniture and so on. I'm happy to say that I thought that I am well off, because I could live, had friends and didn't have to worry about food and shelter.
Many rich people are cursed with severe envy of richer people. It is a trap no matter how much wealth you have. Even the richest man will feel envy when his status is threatened by others.
I feel 00000 envy. Never felt it don't know what it is. But I'm the most prime example of a man being hunted down because of envy. I always help people make sure they're okay. Try to avoid people I don't like and vice versa. But through out my life a lot of people were envious of the man I can become, the potential I carry. Even now after decimating me to ashes they're envious. One can leave people alone but doesn't mean people will leave you alone especially if they're envious of you. Indeed the world is driven by envy. Human hearts can't be tamed with love. The worse part is most people don't wanna be great, they just make sure others live like the peasants they are and pass their days the same way. They fail to fathom some people are incapable of living that mundane existence. Real politics is dead and envy killed it. Social media has big part in it. It has ruined the youth. Misled them. But most of these people way too blind to realize their envy is the only reason the Ummah the Muslim community is lagging behind. Plato had said if philosophers were kings or kings were philosophers the world would've been a good place. They're certainly those among us. But at the end of the day envy will make anything or anyone fall. All root of downfall of man, nations, dynasties.
No. The decision to live without envy is difficult no matter how much you have. Just think of how many super-rich people are living just to one-up each other's lavish lifestyles and status signalling.
@@stu4181No, because then you can be envious of real social relationships for example. People who have too much money, could never trust that someone actually cares for them, not just their money. There's always something to be envious about.
Envy is the most complicated of the emotions as it is really made up of over 57 emotions, in over the spectrum of about 80% of the core felt human experience can be contextualized under "envy". it's the only emotion that lives in Fear, Anger, Disgust, and Sadness. All of its part in different feeling categories. It's the most complicated of all.
How is envy present in the fear that will run through your veins if someone holds you at gun point and you know they can very well pull the trigger? What about in disgust?
He had me up until he said the word god. I don't know why people think that the truth of the universe is what their parents and their culture tell them. If they were born in another country they would have believed in a different God, or gods, or none at all.
This is what I keep arguing to whinging Gen Zs. They dismiss that they're enjoying the highest standard of material living in mankind's history, with supercomputers in their back pockets, free: music and instant communication across the planet, obese homeless people ... but they still demand to live like boomers.
Envy, by definition, isn't wanting what others have. It's rather hating what others have to the point of wanting to destroy it or destroy them. Truly a horrible quality to have.
And Friedrich Nietzsche made envy respectable. The ad hominem attacks-of an argument or reaction directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining-on Charlie Munger, show logic is no longer taught.
Yep. As a Harvard Law School Graduate, Charlie is thus an expert on the US Constitution (well, more so than I), and that we are all, by law, intentionally equal, in every possibly way. All powered, at least in the US, by subsidies and or matching funds under contract. More law stuff. Enter more recent commentaries by the likes of the famed also Harvard educated Psychologist, Jordan Peterson, and the various clips on YT about his arguing with this of that news reporter and the fussing done by cited reporters about some not having the latest in Limousine cars. Does get a lot of US politicians elected to offices, or maybe remain in office. Watch PBS on a regular basis. Of course all of this voting really does work, laws get past and enforced. Then the whining jacks up to a much higher decibel. At which point I usually start reading a book or something.
i envy no one i have and still work for myself and family even though there is no honor only betrayal and evil the easier it is to obtain the less rewarding
Because humans are always evolving and the people at the top are moving forward and the people at the bottom are getting killed and their genes eliminated from the world. So if one brotherhood family is getting more and more stuff, the brotherhood family who has less is getting closer to being offed. That's the truth of life. Animals dont necessarily want more things or want to evolve further. But they want to survive. And a difference in having things is a representation of the group evolving, along with everything that comes with that. So we need to be envious to survive.
“Then I saw that all toil and all skill in work come from a man's envy of his neighbor. This also is vanity and a striving after wind.” Ecclesiastes 4:4
Envy and greed Both are interrelated like cause and effect.. when you want everything yours greed people will get jealous and envy.. we should know the limit where to stop.
but it's not necessarily better now than it used to be in many key fundamentals that the rich don't see. (btw i'm rich) my grandparents' employees owned their homes and had multiple kids and they had enough cash to never need to borrrow. my employees have to rent and barely have enough. paycheck to paycheck. no money to have kids, etc (though i agree the expectations are higher now, but the average cost is 1000x probably) they also work more hours now. but most other things like healthcare, lifespan, etc. sure they are better now.
All i know is that some groups doung well can have positive affect of bringing others up as bussinesses grow and more labor is needed, and in that thinking i have never felt jealous or envioys just frustrated at my life being held back when it has do much potential to create so many things and on top of that abuse? I mean its height of somebody's insanity and fixated destructive obsession
Envy is one of the fundamentals of Instagram's success.
its the Biggest and the main reason.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, not only people are driven by envy but they unknowingly seem to love envying others.
All social media, I think.
@@ransonhall4834 Yes, my thoughts exactly.
Comparison is the thief of joy
*Compassion
@@Richest_Person_in_the_Worldliterally the complete opposite
All do respect to Charlie, everybody would envy him, he had little reason to envy others.
"i have conquered envy" - billionaire with everything
Unless you are truly making a sarcastic joke and are not saying that out of genuine anger - you have truly missed the boat on this one!
Does he look young and healthy to you?
There’s always something you could envy.
@@scholarlyanalyst7700 idk man. Elon Musk has nothing to be envious off
When I steal, I'm greedy. Not thinking of my neighbor and what he has
Yes exactly? Your point is? Your comment sounds like envy.
@@jaymorsis-official It does SOUND like envy (the OP's comment, that is!). I am not able to hear his tone through the computer screen. So, I can't be sure - but still tend to agree with you.
Good news: one can in fact conquer envy when one becomes one of the richest people in the world, and has outlived all his friends.
some of them will envy the young and the people richer than them.
Envy is a declaration of an inferiority complex
VERY GOOD! AGREED! People who envy the so-called "rich" are losers. Plain and simple. And in my experience, that's all too many people. Whether it means "most people"...I wonder?
Nothing else embodies it louder
Yes because envy used to be a overt and good emotion untol christianity ruined it
@@Xander27-k3d admiration you mean
Envy keeps individuals, and even societies, down - well-said by the late, great Charlie Munger.
This is all time wisdom.
“The world is not driven by greed it’s driven by envy.”
I don't think I am that envious of people. I'm more dissappointed in my failures moreso.
The world was driven by money until it was no longer feasible I feel
@@michaelyoon9355 If true...you have a more healthy mindset than the envious people of the world!
The world is driven by ambition and ambition can take many forms, among them:
+Greed=>wealth accumulation
+Envy=>status and privileges of others
+Idealism=>a hypothetical superlative moral/ontological good
+Loyalty=>to serve and improve one's group
"I have conquered envy, I don't care what anyone else has" - proclaimed the billionaire.
The greatest envy is among billionaires. The Forbes Rankings is everything to most of those guys.
Yes, exactly?
On the surface this is a great message but in the real world all I want is an ability to keep a roof over my head and enough food to maintain a fit body, I'm doing without the roof right now but the food thing is getting tougher and tougher by the day.
Its easy for this bloke to not have envy coz hes rich and can do whatever he wants.
Personally i dont care if other people are better off compared to me, same as youre saying I just want to be able to survive and have some time left over for fun
@@Anthonyj.Manttan exactly
@@Anthonyj.Manttaneverything is a choice, and choice isn’t a matter of your balance sheet. Everyone has a budget. You pay your bills, pay for what sustains you, put money into savings for the first two things I mentioned, and with what’s left that’s when you help others by donating to charities, giving gifts, or treating you and your family to some luxuries. You don’t need a $1500 cell phone, fiber optic internet, the premium cable package, or buying the cheapest Rolex. Anyone who does that is projecting an image, they’re selfish and they envy people who have more than they do. Do you have any idea how many domestic abuse shelters would love a donation? The people who manage mutual aid funds wouldn’t say no to any kind of donation either. The UN needs plenty of help. Millions of kids around the world have malnutrition and in the US there are several TV networks dealing with food and cooking, not to mention food eating contests where the person who eats the most food the fastest wins a prize. That’s why ET doesn’t visit us, we’re selfish assholes!
Envy made the rent to go up. People move to cities with more opportunities, this situation creates more demand on housing, landlords drive the rent cost up, so, they can afford luxurious life. It is all what he talks about. Look at the companies that produce food - their management brings prices up just so they can have huge bonuses. That's envy, cause they see other competitors do the same.
@@BederikStorm I believe your example isn’t fully considering the full picture or defining terms properly. First, you said people move to cities where there are more opportunities. If that premise is true and a given city is experiencing growth the commercial real estate industry would also grow. More apartment complexes would be built, large companies that own networks of apartment complexes would buy existing apartment complexes and renovate those complexes to make their apartments look nicer and have more amenities. Competition to get people to lease apartments and recover the cost of renovating or building the complex is creating all kinds of jobs in the local economy. You have construction obviously, construction materials sales, bank loans, insurance to cover the bank loans, utilities companies have to increase their capacities and run new infrastructure for electric, water and sewer, you need building permits, licenses, you always need accountants and auditors, advertising, sales, security, landscaping, and a lot more. All of those people work, get a paycheck, spend money at the local grocery store, clothes store, gas stations, gyms, hair salons, pharmacies and so on. Everyone is supporting everyone else, and all paychecks are paying taxes for Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, Tri-Care, VA Benefits and Prison Bureau health insurance, Social Security, NASA, and everything else in the government. If a landlord raised rent without doing any renovations or adding any amenities that would defined as greed not luxury, but you can always go to a different apartment complex, buy a house through HUD, or get a roommate.
In many cases, envy can lead to irrational decisions and unnecessary stress, as we constantly compare ourselves to others instead of focusing on our own goals and contentment. Munger's insight sheds light on a fundamental human emotion that can have both motivating and destructive consequences.
There's no great wealth. There's great wealth among a very few and the rest of us are poor. A lot of people can't even afford to have a family. Having an air conditioner doesn't make up for that.
Boo hoo. Stop moaning and do something about it.
My grandparents managed to raise 9 children making less than $300/month.
If you really want to start a family, you will find a way.
Air conditioner. roads. firefighters, police, politicians, military, government services. Acesss to all kidns of food and water for free. Clothes, beds, furniture, kitchens, acccomodation, sanitation and bathrooms, Medical care.
but yeah air condition is what matters.
That’s because criminality correlates with relative wealth not absolute wealth, Charlie.
No criminality correlates with relative poverty not absolute because the world is driven by envy, not the other way around
People will buy a $80,000 truck to try to impress people that they don’t even like.
Fools buy things they don’t need, with money they don’t have, to impress people they don’t like. Dont know who came up with this.
@@LemonScreech Tyler Durden
I know no one who can blow that amount of money.
This is the last guy that should be saying anything helpful
How’s that?
That was an envious comment. Truth us truth no matter who speaks it.🤦
We're focused on greed simply because it's the most visibly poisonous and pervasive
I remember the study done when they asked if people would choose 50k and everyone else got 25k or 100k and everyone else got 200k. The overwhelming majority chose the former.
It makes sense because if everyone has relatively more value than you then you are poorer in real terms due inflation and vice versa. Our desire to be better than others is more important than the absolute improvements though whcih is the important takeaway.
Is that study real? 🤨
@@claudiamanta1943 he made it up.
@@claudiamanta1943Yes. We played a version of that in psychology class way back when I was in college. Well my professor did and we weren't aware of it till afterwards. Ours was based on grades rather than money.
Yeah it is. Look it up.@@claudiamanta1943
"Give up envy. There is no religion superior than this." -Srimad Bhagavat Purana Canto 3.
Give up envy. Give up progress. Give up that smartphone.
Envy is the cornerstone of socialism.
I guess envy can often provoke greed
Think Envy and Greed go rather hand in hand.
Envy, greed, etc..., which are all under Fear and Survival. It is primal. Munger wasn't a saint either to get to the level of power and influence he held, so wherever he was is not for me to say, but he was no saint or nice guy. He kind of reminds me of the character in "It's a Wonderful Life," Mr. Potter. I do not admire very rich and powerful people, that's one of the reasons this country is the way it is.
The US?
@@comforth3898 , yes
In my experience many people take casual talks/ jokes very very seriously that leads to envy jealousy which happens and destroys everything good in future. One should stop and think 🤔. People should learn to ignore more often things that they consider negative which should never result in envy. That's the way of life of successful people and one of the mantra for success.
Very much in agreement. Hearing something upsetting or disagreeable does nothing except giving you the options to choose caring about it or shrugging and moving on.
I’m still thinking about an argument from 2012. Can’t wait to see him again…
@@ron.mexico. get 100x better than him and then see him again
@@nweidelthis is what i heard koby Bryant's Coach say on stage. He said kobe would forget quickly in the sense that he didn't hold things against people because he understood that doing so would only distract him from achieving his goals.
Praise The LORD!
I disagree envy and greed go hand in hand. No one is envious of poor homeless people.
Envy is actually a form of greed. So is laziness.
There's a greater divide between the haves and have nots now than during the Depression. That's leading to society being more dangerous, driven by envy but also desperation.
Envy is not good for the country's economy, making others feel bad just because they are more hardworking is not good in any sense.
Instead they should take inspiration and do what they can do, Envy is a feminine trait, Men are brave.
You hit it RIGHT ON THE NAIL! That's exactly what I always say. Learn from the successful. Use them as inspiration. The last thing we would want to do is envy them!
It's driven by both mate. Most people in the US can barely afford to keep a roof over their head. Not sure how that makes them more envious.
Its their fault tho. All people have to do is gather up together with bunk beds and split all costs, but too many people are envious of each other to the extent that they can't live with one another.
“The world is not driven by greed, it’s driven by envy”. Charlie Munger
“There is nothing more counter productive than envy”. Charlie Munger.
“Envy is a really stupid sin because it's the only one you could never possibly have any fun at.”
"Generally speaking, envy, resentment, revenge and self-pity are disastrous modes of thought”.
Charlie Munger.
This means the world is driven by a counter productive, stupid, sinful and disastrous mode of thought.
Yet “the world is 5x better off than it used to be”. Charlie Munger
Maybe there I some merit in envy…
Good argument
Having envy is necessary evil 😂
@@thadude765 only argument against it is that the world could have been 50x better if it wasn’t for it
It's 5x better in spite of envy, thanks to people being allowed to channel it into innovations and ventures.
Communism is envy
Actually rich dude, I’m unhappy because my same exact bills are 30% more expensive and companies and people who want to exploit others are buying up all housing, so unlike when you were young, I am paying a mortgage price to infinitely rent.
HEY! His name is Charles Munger. You address people by their given names! Furthermore, no one gives a flying flip about your bills! That's NOT Mr.Munger's problem, nor mine, nor anyone else's. Stop whining, and stop being rude to people who made it in this world!
@@victoriasegall3404 I address people how I please. And I am well aware that people don't care about each other, thats kinda the problem. Maybe Charlie should stop assuming he knows what makes OTHER people unhappy. He doesn't know me at all, he just assumes he does cause he is rich, so he MUST have all the answers. I'm not envious of others belongings, nor am I an arrogant braggart (neither is mungeee) about what I have that others don't.
So said Rene Girard and James Alison. It's the great achilles heel of humanity. Charlie Munger and his class of Robber Barons are prime examples.
Well improved in some ways not others not matters of virtue of character now some people don't dare want to be successful etc. or they will targetted by narcissistic rage.
Rene Girard said desire is all mimetic. It at least makes you consider the importance of cultural values.
Translation : Dont be envious of my billions
Envy was how I got sick.
Preach !
It's easy for him to say this because he conquered envy by becoming one of the richest people in the world.
Envy and its counterpart contempt - or pity - are both pathologic states of mind that signify that you are not living your life well.
His words solve nothing.
They reveal. The knowledge of truth sets you free... But only to those who chose to see. To everyone else, these words solve nothing.
Solve your own problems!
People are unhappy about the state of affairs but are willing to sacrifice any moral objection because of GREED NOT ENVY!!!
Lol 0:25 "everybody's five times better than they used to be" .
The guy in Mcdonnals is not 5 times better than the 1950s when this guy was young.
Biggest lie ever.
@@benchmark3332 . Taking a carefully selected sliver of the whole (white male 50’s high school kid working in an entry level position) does not prove your point.
@@sampetrie340 "everybody's better" FIVE TIMES.
I agree ,just be happy your alive and god willing get anther day and anther chance each day is a GIFT from god
You don't know what to do about it? You can have a system based on freedom rather than enslavement, a system where effort counts for something, where law makes sense and is enforced equally-not a system built on obedience which benefits primarily a circle of dynasties at the top.
Where has that society ever existed? Every society is hierarchal where there’s winners and losers, but he’s not wrong. People lives are objectively way better than even 100 years ago, but all people do is complain.
A distinction without a real difference!
Wrong. Ego drives the world 🌎
What you said is like saying.
We breath oxygen, not air.
Bruh.
Ego is the source of all envy.
3 sins are the root of all sins: Greed, Envy, & Pride.
I don't have envy but I have hate when people accumulate through dishonesty of some form.
Pure wisdom. God bless him
Envy is an ok emotion. Envy is not jealousy.
Lol he's saying that because he has the riches. Don't envy me don't come after me I don't want competition
No one human can resist envy, but he mastered his desire
I'm poor and have 0 envy in my life, I never look at what others have and wish them bad or want it, and I really don't care if you're doing much better than me, I'm gonna focus on me and improving my life, I think that was his point, and I agree, I have been envious, and it's way more fulfilling being without it, rich or not
Facts, of cours he doesnt envy when hes at the top. Does envy drive billionaies to amass more and more wealth?
These men are not to be admired. They live with the guise of simplicity and humility but in reality their public perception is curated and trimmed by a team of professionals. They have greatly profited from a monetary system that will inevitably render every American penniless and homeless. They are part of the problem..
@jaromsmith4429 what problem? How will people end up penniless with this current system?
Correct and for most envy of something that you can’t achieve like a nice body and good looks. As that is impossible for 99 % of the people on earth , money or drugs is the second most wanted things to achieve.
Spot on NOTHING gets you hated like good looks.
Easy for you to say you old turtle. Take a look outside. We're fucked.
Easy for him to say he doesn't envy anyone!
Well... of course that's how he would think. Everyone wants to believe they're a good person.
I have 11 cents in the bank and am very, very satisfied with my life.
So true…….
That is why in judaism we say the blessing every morning when we wake up. We thank God for another day on this earth. Everything else is a bonus.
People are still disenfranchised. I mean, empathy is that people are still upset over that, despite that people’s lives are not as bad as they were in the 50s.
Hmmm I wonder if he conquered envy by getting billions of dollars
The majority of our fellow citizens are exceedingly envious, and, if not for the law, would even raid your fridge. You have something I want, why should you have it and not me, I deserve it more than you, - then the criminal step- I am going to take it from you. Which is why Shakespeare's Iago is the most evil character ever created.
well - he conquered envy because he has more than everybody else lol.
Yeah, smart guy, but a pretty oblivious 90 seconds.
And nevertheless he lived pretty humble life and sacrificing his wealth after his death.
@@vladimirgetselevich4704 When everybody knows you're richer than them, you don't have to show it. Just the awarness is enough to satisfy the ego.
@@vladimirgetselevich4704 yes. people in america don't know how average rich people do to save their money. most of them they try to inherit their money to their children. and for that literally they keep repeating dirty shits to maintain their legacy. seriously. funny to see people blaming person who donate most of their wealth
He’s clearly come from a time in life way more difficult than any of us will ever likely experience. And he’s right, envy drives people to overspend their incomes which puts people in debt which in turn prevents people from accumulating wealth. Charlie Munger was not oblivious.
What's the power on those glasses?
WOW.
Give your wealth up and you'll be safer and happier
What is envy nothing more peace
Would Charlie still say this if he was only worth a million and wasnt besties with one of the richest in the game. Greed n envy go together
Net worth, 2.6 billion. I'm not envious, I'm disgusted.
Why? Good for him. If you were half the man he was you would have 1.3 Billion.
Proving him right. You don't need to be rich. You just want him to be poor.
People are forced to work increasingly more to make ends meet, and their problem is envy!? What a joke!
Please don't fall into the trap to think that it is easier for him because he's rich.
I know about a woman who ownes about ten houses and whines about the worries she has about them.
He is absolutely right. I know it is tough for a lot of people. But most of us don't have to worry if they can eat tomorrow.
I used to have little money a few years. I focused on the main things: Food and my Apartment. Everything else I tried to get used or for free (my first car was a small 12 year old one). You can get a lot of things for free, like furniture and so on.
I'm happy to say that I thought that I am well off, because I could live, had friends and didn't have to worry about food and shelter.
It’s driven by both
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I enjoy all i can and more.. do good enjoy life
I too have billions so I don't envy anyone. I too
Many rich people are cursed with severe envy of richer people. It is a trap no matter how much wealth you have. Even the richest man will feel envy when his status is threatened by others.
This applies to governments too.
I feel 00000 envy. Never felt it don't know what it is. But I'm the most prime example of a man being hunted down because of envy. I always help people make sure they're okay. Try to avoid people I don't like and vice versa. But through out my life a lot of people were envious of the man I can become, the potential I carry. Even now after decimating me to ashes they're envious. One can leave people alone but doesn't mean people will leave you alone especially if they're envious of you. Indeed the world is driven by envy. Human hearts can't be tamed with love. The worse part is most people don't wanna be great, they just make sure others live like the peasants they are and pass their days the same way. They fail to fathom some people are incapable of living that mundane existence. Real politics is dead and envy killed it. Social media has big part in it. It has ruined the youth. Misled them. But most of these people way too blind to realize their envy is the only reason the Ummah the Muslim community is lagging behind. Plato had said if philosophers were kings or kings were philosophers the world would've been a good place. They're certainly those among us. But at the end of the day envy will make anything or anyone fall. All root of downfall of man, nations, dynasties.
Isn't greed "just" a variation of envy?
No
Totally agree with the setiment but it’s likely easier to be less envious when you are hyper successful 😂
No. The decision to live without envy is difficult no matter how much you have. Just think of how many super-rich people are living just to one-up each other's lavish lifestyles and status signalling.
@@ClintLock1 that’s fair, but when you are in the richest 0.000001% has to be easier than working on a checkout…
Figures wildly estimated for discussion purposes *
@@stu4181No, because then you can be envious of real social relationships for example. People who have too much money, could never trust that someone actually cares for them, not just their money. There's always something to be envious about.
Envy is the most complicated of the emotions as it is really made up of over 57 emotions, in over the spectrum of about 80% of the core felt human experience can be contextualized under "envy".
it's the only emotion that lives in Fear, Anger, Disgust, and Sadness. All of its part in different feeling categories.
It's the most complicated of all.
How is envy present in the fear that will run through your veins if someone holds you at gun point and you know they can very well pull the trigger? What about in disgust?
He had me up until he said the word god. I don't know why people think that the truth of the universe is what their parents and their culture tell them. If they were born in another country they would have believed in a different God, or gods, or none at all.
This is what I keep arguing to whinging Gen Zs.
They dismiss that they're enjoying the highest standard of material living in mankind's history, with supercomputers in their back pockets, free: music and instant communication across the planet, obese homeless people ... but they still demand to live like boomers.
Envy, by definition, isn't wanting what others have. It's rather hating what others have to the point of wanting to destroy it or destroy them. Truly a horrible quality to have.
And Friedrich Nietzsche made envy respectable. The ad hominem attacks-of an argument or reaction directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining-on Charlie Munger, show logic is no longer taught.
i think his right about eviness, when you compare it to countries between china and america which are fighting to have global economic power.
So Well explained it looks easy to understand!
ALL is vanity. - King Solomon the wise
Yep. As a Harvard Law School Graduate, Charlie is thus an expert on the US Constitution (well, more so than I), and that we are all, by law, intentionally equal, in every possibly way. All powered, at least in the US, by subsidies and or matching funds under contract. More law stuff. Enter more recent commentaries by the likes of the famed also Harvard educated Psychologist, Jordan Peterson, and the various clips on YT about his arguing with this of that news reporter and the fussing done by cited reporters about some not having the latest in Limousine cars. Does get a lot of US politicians elected to offices, or maybe remain in office. Watch PBS on a regular basis. Of course all of this voting really does work, laws get past and enforced. Then the whining jacks up to a much higher decibel. At which point I usually start reading a book or something.
i envy no one i have and still work for myself and family even though there is no honor only betrayal and evil the easier it is to obtain the less rewarding
Envy let the common goals happen (the 600%) but without envy we would already be living on Mars or better.
Yep, I'm driven crazy by envy and I honestly don't know how to stop that
really?
@@MaverickLee11 yes
Use it to fuel your hardwork and focus so you can defeat your rivals
@@marioplate2807 envy is good if you know that it is fuel
appreciate what you have. be proud of your own accomplishments. focus on self. see the improvement of what You were before
Because humans are always evolving and the people at the top are moving forward and the people at the bottom are getting killed and their genes eliminated from the world. So if one brotherhood family is getting more and more stuff, the brotherhood family who has less is getting closer to being offed. That's the truth of life. Animals dont necessarily want more things or want to evolve further. But they want to survive. And a difference in having things is a representation of the group evolving, along with everything that comes with that. So we need to be envious to survive.
“Then I saw that all toil and all skill in work come from a man's envy of his neighbor. This also is vanity and a striving after wind.”
Ecclesiastes 4:4
What's that, I hope not bible again
Charlie was very old. He had every reason to envy a 20 year old healthy young person of any race or nationality. But he was ok.
Envy and greed Both are interrelated like cause and effect.. when you want everything yours greed people will get jealous and envy.. we should know the limit where to stop.
Younger generations don’t have “five times more than they used to”. Laughable.
I don't think the guys printing all the money are envious of anyone there bud.
😂😂😂 if i know how
Cause you know better than Munger. Envy drove them to print more.
@@bryan6rg who do they take their orders from?
So, greedy people feel envy for people who hate greedy people. Interesting.
but it's not necessarily better now than it used to be in many key fundamentals that the rich don't see.
(btw i'm rich)
my grandparents' employees owned their homes and had multiple kids and they had enough cash to never need to borrrow.
my employees have to rent and barely have enough. paycheck to paycheck. no money to have kids, etc (though i agree the expectations are higher now, but the average cost is 1000x probably)
they also work more hours now.
but most other things like healthcare, lifespan, etc. sure they are better now.
That's true but nobody can buy a goddamn house so... No.
All i know is that some groups doung well can have positive affect of bringing others up as bussinesses grow and more labor is needed, and in that thinking i have never felt jealous or envioys just frustrated at my life being held back when it has do much potential to create so many things and on top of that abuse? I mean its height of somebody's insanity and fixated destructive obsession