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Bro you're an inspiration. Been watching since 2015 but never like a MASSIVE CAN'T MISS fan (sorry not sorry? xD loved your content, didn't need to live it?), and looking at your over 1m subscribers and essentially life's work thus far, you're doing it right man. Wish I could have just had the balls to start a channel based something I find myself enthralled in and didn't know I could make it part of if not my entire job: doing what I love!?! how tell me, where sign me up, when yesterday didn't know this as an optional reality anymore) then garnering millions of people who have a similar passion and unknowing in how to make it their job so they watch someone like you (ie, any TH-cam video about their interests who have large fan base) instead of doing it themselves like they may endeavor to but don't know how to capitalize - heh literally and figuratively - I digress, I digress.
Just so you know, until dawn actually got the wendigo pretty good. Instead of being a deer like creature, it had the shape of an emaciated human, with an insatiable hunger for human flesh, and the only way to kill it was by fire. And in that series, the way someone became a wendigo was by getting possessed by the spirit of the wendigo after consuming human flesh, that of the living or dead
As a native American you did your research right. i do appreciate your work on this video. If you wanna do lores from different tribes you can research my tribe. we had a bunch of interest stories and we're in that Weird New Jersey Book. It's under the name Jackson Whites
One of the few folklorists on YT that differentiates between the Hollywood versions and the original lore. The original lore is more than scary enough, the antlers are unnecessary. I guess they look cool, but then it's a completely different creature!
Fun fact- When the Donner party became trapped by the winter snow, it didn't take long for their Native guides to abandon them. This was due to the talk among members of the party about who should be eaten first. The guides wanted neither to be eaten, nor to eat human flesh.
Do you blame them? I would be terrified. I dont think I could force myself to eat human flesh, especially having to LIVE with that for the rest of my life. In the same breath I would be scared that either I would die and they would eat me or I would be weak from not eating human flesh and being killed by another member of the party. Then you have to take into account that starving to death is painful and you are left with NO good options.
@@savagegardenrox No, they abandoned the Donner Party. They told the story of what happened up to the point they left. They didn't stay to be eaten anyway.
@@irishiz498 For sure! And to top it all off, I think I also read that the some of the survivors of the Donner party were looked down upon by society for a while, due to the extreme necessities they had to do to survive. The survivors sadly had to carry their traumas and public scrutiny for the rest of their lives... :(
There's also a medical component to the consumption of human flesh. It's rare, but if one human consumes parts of another, they can contract a disease called Kuru. Kuru is an infection of a protein that slowly deteriorates the brain causing motor dysfunctions like tremors and trouble walking and swallowing. Essentially, it's Mad Cow for humans. So in the event that someone becomes a cannibal and contracts Kuru, the symptoms would seem similar to the descriptions of the Wendigo. Neat, huh?
It was found in natives of Papua New Guinea, and eventually discovered to be a prion ingested because of their ritual eating of the dead. Specifically brains and spinal cord. They also eat their souls.
I also heard how it triggers somethinf in some people like more testostorone, or more violent etc due to the chemical released ina human that knows its gona be killed tonbe eaten, its like not wanting your animal to suffer not just becuase its wrong but because the adrenaline changes the entire flavor, well with humans it changes more then flavors..... Nothing good comes from it my people are from. Mexico, that is the work of the darkside imo
My grand mother is Native American and a part of the Ojibwe tribe and would tell me stories all the time about many different folklores, including the Wendigo. This brings back so many memories.😊
Thanks for specifying that the Wendigo is an Algonquian legend, and not just lumping all Natives together. My wife is Haudenosaunee (Onondaga (Iroquois)), and she hates when white folk think all the different tribes are the same. Saying something like "Native Americans believe..." would be like saying "Europeans believe..." and I would be hard-pressed to find a single thing all Europeans agree on.
Just curious, because I've been doing research on exactly that subject for a writing project, but is there a version of a wendigo like creature from the native American tribes of the Nevada region? I search Google but there were actually very few legends from those tribes that turned up and actually very little information at all compared to other tribes. I'm also having trouble because I work too much lol 😆 might be better to just talk to somebody who knows things
@@albigensiac3206 Thank you for taking the time to explain this to Jon and those of us who like to read the comments in the comment section. Between you and Jon, I feel like I learned a lot about something that appeared as a "monster of the week" in a "Supernatural" episode.
@@albigensiac3206 You're welcome. I wish I could hover with my mouse over "Megwe'ech" so I can hear how you say it! I've been subscribed to Jon for a while now, as I love how he goes into detail about whatever subject he's talking about. I also like learning more about things I only know a little about or things I had no idea about. It's a good channel and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! 🙂
Nah only white folk who live in the cities, alot of us white folk in the country side or grew up near reservations know better, my grandma is Navajo/Apache and half Russian Gypsy, my father is Irish gypsy and is also half Haudenosaunee Iroquois.
I remember in 3rd grade I was fascinated with mythology and wanted to do a visual presentation on the Wendigo, as I found it extremely fascinating. When my mom asked what it was, I started to go into detail. As this was a 3rd grade presentation she quickly urged me to do something school appropriate(as talking about a terrifying cannibalistic creature might have traumatized my fellow peers lol) so I changed it to the phoenix. Apparently when someone asked the generic “how did you pick your topic,” I proceeded to say, “well I wanted to do mine on wendigos but mom said it was too violent, which is too bad.”
Antlers/horns= Prey turned Predator. Many a horror artist will try and layer in the unsettling concept of what we eat turning into what eats us by adding in the detail of horns and or antlers. It's not always NECESSARY for visual horror, but it is pretty common for a monster that eats people in some way to also get horns, even when the legend didn't start that way.
@@stuffynosepatrol Many people don't care if art has any correlation to history. Some of them are artists, and the rest are consumers. If it sells, who cares if it's a random conglomeration of folklore from around the globe because money rules the world. Fight back by holding on to your money.
@@noxlumen2711 Look, I dont care about the majority of what you just said but saying "it makes money so why complain about it" is ligitimately the most stupid argument to justify anything I've ever heard and I'm getting sick of hearing it. But yes, artists should be able to draw whatever they please, but its irritating to see people try to perpetuate even more misconseptions about a culture that is already incredibly misunderstood, especially when said misconseptions originate from rich white guys tryingnto make money off of some movies in the 70s.
Great episode! In fact, I was floored to hear your retelling the "The Wendigo" by Algernon Blackwood. I was very young staying at my Grandmother's home. I was put to bed on the couch and to help lull me to sleep, she turned on music on the radio. Unfortunately the music show was soon over and next was a radio play (yes, it was a very long time ago when that was a thing). It was this horrible story. To this day, some 70 years later, I can still hear the actor's cry. "My feet, my poor burning feet!". Needless to say, there was no sleep that night.😀
The show Hannibal also depicts Hannibal the cannibal himself as a wendigo, the description you gave but it also has antlers, but that probably because will graham is hunting him. It fits because he was starved as a child in a war and was forced unknowingly to eat his sister, attributing to his disturbed psyche.
I’m recovering from anorexia and it’s scary how much of this rings true for me. Especially the part of an ice cold heart because the world felt endlessly frozen to me. The physical description sounded like me when I was at my worst. I felt much less than human. Spiritually, emotionally, and physically a husk of what I once was.
Perhaps not only malnutrition contributed to the wendigo’s sullen and peculiar appearance. Perhaps the elements such as rain, the cold, disease and lack of sanity could have played a part.
Have you ever heard of the sleep experiment? Ts seems like what would create a wendingo but then again idk anything about this stuff jus here to learn nbs
Even though Until Dawn took it a step further with the entire "curse of the wendigo", I personally thought they conveyed the lengths of disparity a person would have to go to to lose their humanity pretty well, and aside from the whole superhuman cursed ghoul thing it was a pretty faithful representation.
Algernon Blackwood has some incredibly creepy stories. I learned about him about a decade ago from a fellow lover of all things horror. If anyone is looking for stories that might make you sleep with a light on, check him out. I’m so glad you brought up his connection
Wow, I haven't thought of Blackwood in years! I'm definitely going to locate and re-read some of his work. Thank you!! Edit: I tend to scroll the comments before playing the videos and I got really excited at the sudden memory😂 oops!
@@gertrudelaronge6864 My discovery of him was almost a kind of trope in itself. My first year of college, a LOT of years ago, randomly grazing through shelves on an upper floor and the name on these worn-out old volumes catching my eye. And then, thumbing through the pages, still reading as I sat down at one if the community tables. I'm actually laughing thinking about how cliche that sounds!! :p But he has that effect.
one interpretion of the wendigo concept i really love is the idea that people would get so desperate, theyd eat other people and because of how our brains work, in order to process what theyve done, theyd purposely imagine that they transformed into a different creature as a way to escape the harsh reality of their actions.
As an Anishinaabekwe I love that you made this video. Also it's cute how you pronounce Ojibwe, like oh gee bway, I say oh jib way. Thank you so much for making this so accurately, I laughed so loud when you said antlers are scary because I always hated that in modern lore the wendigo has antlers like wtf
I've always loved the thing ever since I read a book on it as a child. It was also pretty graphic, depicting a decrepit-looking man holding the severed head of another. I've researched it plenty since then, though it was hard since my community doesn't have a solid connection to the old culture. Other stories I've read depict the creature as an evil spirit, a personification of winter and selfishness, with many different attributes like speed, mimicry, etc. It's really cool.
simple the Europeans had far scarier folklore. so it was decided to put a deer skull with antlers on the wendigo because a skinny guy is far less scarier than a man eating skeleton deer. plus the natives were murdering other natives claiming them to be wendigos
@Jon Solo there’s another movie about cannibalism in North America that you didn’t mention: Ravenous. It’s about the Wendigo more as a psychological concept that infects a person, rather than a horrific physical transformation, and it’s set during the Western Expansion. It’s really good, well worth a watch.
Thank you for doing the Manitou/wendigo story the proper justice its needed not just a creepypasta buzzword that would better fit the Man of the wood or the spirit of the wild in European culture
@Anna with two n the god mainly of the hunt. He also represents the harder seasons of autumn and winter when fresh foods were more scarce until the rebirth of spring and return of planting and of more rewarding hunts.
@@anna.owo. i think that's where the physical aspects of popculture depictions of the wendigo come from, especially eastern european wilderness demon leshy, which is ofter portrayed as a sort of human and deer hybrid with features usually associated with any kinds of monsters such as claws and sharp teeth. thus making the modern wendigo™ a creole of native american mythical creature with the looks of a completely separate european folklore entity
I’m Cree and Métis. This is a very good video! In my cultures, it’s very bad luck to say their names but my kokum would teach us stories of these creatures (in Cree, Wīhtikow) and the Rougarou(French origins but lots of Métis are told of this creature as well). I love how much research you did, seeing accurate teachings and knowledge is always amazing to see :)
I like the way the Wendigo is portrayed in the Antlers movie. I think it does a good job of combining the original myth with the americanised version by having the antlered form being the final form while the first form being an emaciated human
I believe the antlers could be due to the term, “not deer,” as they’re often confused with Skin Walkers… it’s also considered bad luck & risky to speak of & say the actual term (Wendi..) as the lore says they will target you if you say their name.
@@theangrysuchomimus5163 it’s disrespectful for people not of Navajo descent to talk about it. Navajo do not speak to non Navajo about it. Fictional or not, your not supposed to talk about it.
I always liked and feared the story that talking about it will make the chance of it appearing more likely. Also the tales of it using the voices of people you've lost in the wilderness, taunting you to madness by blaming you for their deaths. Can't remember where I learned of it though.
stories like this are called "cognito hazards" which is knowing of something and therefore making it more likely to happen. a youtuber Wendigoon has a great video on them i recommend it
I actually shared my own original Wendigo story with Mr. Sinister. One of my best works. This video was a joy to watch, thanks for stepping into Spoopy Season with the right foot!
Pet Semetary...The scariest part of the book for me in mid-late 1980's. Going to college in Orono, Maine at the time...we would " freak each other out" with Wendigo stories while taking late night "nature walks" that may or may not have involved various intoxicants. Great episode! Your concluding analysis is spot on.
I find this video extremely fascinating as I studied Cherokee mythology and folklore in college, and there were many creatures similar to the Wendigo portrayed within those stories. The first one to come to mind is Spearfinger, a creature described as a woman with skin of stone who stole the livers of children for consumption. Not quite the same but the human consumption part really stuck out in my mind lmao
Just wanted to let you know that I always enjoy your videos and appreciate the time you put into researching each of them. Have to also say your wife is blessed.
There’s also a creature in Native American mythology that resembles the alien from the Predator movies. A few bead artists I follow on IG mentioned it. “Never go out on the land after dark.” I’d love to hear more.
I must be a prophet or something because i was just a few days ago thinking that why aren't there some quality videos about this subject,and here it is finally.
I think the reason theyve grown antlers and other animalistic features in modern day is because theyve been fused with another american terror the skinwalker.
There are three types of ravenous flesh eating monsters that roam the forests (that I have learned about). Wendigo, Wechuge, and and Tall Deer. Wendino: look as John described, and have their origins in canibalism. Wechuge: look humanoid but have an animal skull for a head such as a wolf or bear skull. Their origins deal with offending your animal guide. Tall Deer: look like the typical wendigo image that you see used as a wedigo video thumbnail. Humanoid with a deer skull and antlers for a head. Their origins are murky, they might be evil deformed deer people. Skinwalkers: are native people who delve into evil black magics to become a skinwalker. They can shapeshift into animals of their choosing, or half change into a human animal hybrid if they like. They are not ravenous flesh eating monsters, but they do evil and often kill people.
It's late at night, and that story by Blackwood was chilling to the bone. I kept getting paranoid myself, making sure no one was sitting in the chair next to me, or in the dark outside my window. I probably would've gotten more paranoid if I was alone.
I like Wedigos as a cautionary tale. With rent prices rising and food becoming more expensive as well, times are getting tough and people are getting more desperate. That struggle to keep your humanity as you struggle to fulfill your base needs is scarily relatable.
I personally think Native American culture and folklore is so engaging an interesting. I fell in love with it after living up in Montana for a few years.
I always wondered after learning about the Wendigo if it was a bit of morality tale. Maybe based on the possible illnesses that have apparently been caused by cannibalism - prion diseases etc. I can’t remember the exact location, perhaps somewhere around Papua New Guinea, but there had been a tribe known for cannibalism and many were found to be suffering from prion diseases and associated mental health disorders. I’m probably not explaining this very well, but I know what I mean 😂
Jon! ... I'm 42 and remember THIS EXACT story after so long. I first read this in 4th grade English as I recall. The phrase while not accurate "My feet! My fiery feet!" has been stuck in my head all these years. I got transported so to speak. Subscribed and thanks!
I listen to the Wendigo narrated by Amy gramore almost every night. It's on TH-cam and it's definitely the best narration of this incredibly creepy story. Algernon blackwood is an amazing writer. His word choices and sentence structures are so evocative he drops you right down in the middle of his world.
All TH-camrs work hard, but man you honestly go above and beyond in your research and script writing. Great work. Followed your channel for quite a while now as I'm obsessed with Norse and Greek mythology but have stayed because of the high quality videos, great research, and a great lil doggo 👀 My channel is all about educating on various Business concepts and I wish my content was as interesting as yours hahaha!
i first heard of the Wendigo from a season 3 episode of Lost Tapes. it involves a group of hikers getting lost in the Appalachian wilderness and one of them, a man named Matthew Gahl becomes the Wendigo leaving him and another hiker, Lane Corey as the sole survivors though she gets killed and possibly eaten in the end as well as the three rescue personal that tried to find them. the invent was chocked up to as a black bear attack either by assumption or possible cover up by some SCP foundation style group. that's a good Lost Tapes theory.
I know the wendigo with antlers is known as the "pop-culture" version but when I googled wendigo and looked at them, none came even close to the mental image i have of it When i think of the wendigo i think of a malnourished thin skinned humanoid with unnaturally long bones wearing a rotting deer skull and hide kinda like a raincoat or a cape. And i love that image of it more than any depiction i have ever seen
The story and trial of Jack Fiddler is an interesting story about the Wendigo and how far a Man would go to protect his tribe. Everyone should check it out.
This is my first video of yours ive seen and it did NOT disappoint!!! Had me gripped from start to finish! i absolutely believe in Wendigos and to hear the origins was awesome!! cant wait to watch more!
I saw the Monstrum video about the wendigo, what made me interested is that in the video Natives also saw wendigo more like owl instead of deers. I really want to know how the evolution of the wendigo changes throughout the years
Curious if you'd consider covering Scottish folklore in the future? There's definitely a lot I think you'd find interesting to explore :) Love this video as always and hope your well :)
@@miragedown There is another TH-camr I follow that's covered some of it Liath Wolf who is good but Jon Solo has a magic to the way he explains folklore so I'd love to see his take on it and I know his research is as thorough as can be :)
This was extraordinary and kept my attention the entire video!! I have watched your Greek mythology and true story "fairytales" but this interests me far more. The thought of someone's mind actually breaking to a point where they are just a shell of what they used to be is so fascinating, we see all kinds of mental illness this day in age but I cant imagine how these people felt experiencing it first hand. As always Jon, It was amazing hanging out with passed you and I look forward to more Folklore!
dude, the sound affects while you told the story gave me chills!!!!! Do more! More creepy stories!! Love it! That is once you run out of mythology. I can't get rid of the goosebumps!
I loved this! I remember finding out about Wendigos from another mythology channel, but they only showed a story about a family of wendigos.. The story, the horror, it's all so cool! Thanks for the video!
One of my fave characters from a show is Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. He's human turned-demon who was a serial killer _and_ a cannibal when he was alive. His demon look is based off a deer _and_ a Wendigo. He loves venison (deer meat).
The story I heard when I was a child living in Maine, about the Wendigo, had nothing to do with cannibalism. It had more to do with people going mad, and running away like their feet were on fire, while they disappeared or burned from the feet up, and would float up into the sky. How accurate that is, I'm not sure. It was around 30 years ago, but that's what I remember of it. All of this took place in the wintertime too, in the story I heard. I'm probably misremembering it, or maybe they just excluded the cannibalism part because we were kids. It was still scary to me though.
Scary Stories to tell in the Dark. The og book series had that version. It clearly was not a wendigo but based on some other myth. But they gave it the wendigo name in the short story. I remember reading it too.
I’ve been following you for years and I can still say. You’re one of my favorites to just listen to when I’m stoned. Always interesting info to be learned here. ❤️❤️❤️
i was randomly clicking videos starting from ancient civilizations to finding the lost kingdoms then stumbled upon your Vampire videos which lead me to this video. i first heard about Wendigo from a tv series Grimm but i never really delved into until this. thank you for sharing.
I wrote a research paper on wendigos back in high school, which was very interesting since I live in an area where the folklore originated. It's cool to see a lot of the stuff I wrote in my paper also being brought up in the video. Like Swift Runner! I read so much about him and wendigo psychosis.
I wrote this comment under a different video, but I thing you would find it interesting: My family is not Native, but I do have a story that my grandfather told me about his dad when I was a kid, before he started to lose his memory. (I am a french speaker, so I might mistranslate some things) He told me that one winter, his dad came back from the cutting wood camp (back then, mens would go to the woods with friends for a while to cut wood because it is easier to transport wood by horse with snow on the ground) with a crazy story. He said that, about one week in, one of the guys attacked his older brother with his hatchet. When everyone came back to the camp, they found the brother had locked himself up in the cabin. He was bleeding a lot, but thankfully he was alive. He told them what his little brother had done. The men looked in the surrondings of the camp and they found the attacker 5 minutes away from the camp, with blood on his face. It is believed that he had eaten the strip of meat the had cut from his brother. He attacked upon being found, and even with 5 other guys trying to keep him down he ended up escaping. He was never seen again. People think he died in the woods, except I heard other stories about homeless people dissapearing around that region enough that I suspect the guy became a ''wendigo''. Also, he likely diden't do it out of hunger, because they had food at the camp. He may have had a mental breakdown (wich is what is assumed nowadays, back then they though he got possessed).
Loved this one. There is a disease called Kuru that is caused by cannibalism especially the eating of human brains. That could of led to the wendigo. Some of the symptoms are malnutrition, dementia ,behavioural and mood changes just to mention a few.
While the physical aspects of a wendigo are creepily awesome, its truly itd symbolism that makes it equal parts horrific and tragic. Alsl, if you look at the hunger part through a metaphorical sense, the wendigo can be incorporated into our more modern examples of greed and selfishness. How enough is never enough to quencb one's hunger.
Sounds like greed and selfishness was part of the lesson, the reason why native Americans would tell the story. Tho in a much more practical "make sure you're prepared for winter/don't make your wife pay with her life for your poor decisions" way. But yes it makes perfect sense to expand the moral into the bigger issue of greed and selfishness
@@nintendogamingchannel1007 It's Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, a book series about old legends, some modern legends, and various horror stories with creepy imagery with it. It's awesome!
Funnily enough, my introduction to the Wendigo was via comic books, as the beast was a foe of the Hulk. In the 80’s, artist/writer John Byrne attempted to rework the lore of the Wendigo to fit more in line with its folklore. But it was still a massive beast, not emancipated. However, the curse of eating flesh was the catalyst for the transformations…
This was definitely the most interesting and uniquely descriptive take on the Wendigo I’ve ever heard. Usually the stories of the wedingo are as sensational as possible without much history or research given. Much appreciated. The description of a man running off into the Forrest with the trail disappearing reminds me of David Paulides missing persons reports where many times a group of people will describe a similar event of one member in the group inexplicably running off into the Forrest leaving the group behind never to be found and with no rational explanation to why or where they would have went. There have been many documented cases of individuals disappearing from view and their footprints abruptly ending in the middle of the snow. I don’t doubt the validity of these reports seeing as they’re too numerous and similar to dismiss. The only logical conclusion when faced with the seemingly impossible is that this world is stranger and far more mysterious than we can ever imagine. Love and blessings 🙏
Me: Oh you're back _Niceee..._ [yawn]. Jon Solo: We're going to cover a topic you're gonna love... Jon Solo: ... _The consumption of human flesh._ Me: *I'm listening.* p.s. - Damn this must be the most straightfoward intro you've ever done.
If u put a bunch of eeeees at the end of the word nice you're saying Nicey. Repeating a letter to denote emphasis or whatever, means u gotta repeat the letter corresponding to the sound u wanna emphasize. So Niiiiicccccce wud make a lot more sense to the eyes than Niceeeeee. Ya know what I mean
Until Dawn is one of my favorite video games, the wendigos in that game were terrifying and also the twist at the end of the game with one of the wendigos was well thought out. Thinking of replaying that game now.
this is the peak of my horror interests. Just you narrating with your typically friendly voice, without even using intense details let alone graphics, im terrified. guess im just weak
I’ve encountered a windingo , it looked like the werewolf from Harry Potter. Its skin was grey ,with no hair or antlers . It paused and rose to full stature while it was half way across the foot path we were on . The back of its hand and wrist dragged on the ground kind of like a gorilla walks . It just slowly looked at me and my friend then continued over the trail into a ravine.
I know it sounds weird, but for some reason, I've always really liked the wendigo. I actually wrote a story about one, using the Native American lore I could get my hands on to use in the creation. Thank you for making the video, Jon. It's much appreciated, since I haven't seen many truly researched videos of the wendigo. Keep up the great work! Also, thank you for including wendigo psychosis. It's rare to hear anyone mention that.
I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned Ravenous (1999 movie, iirc). Probably my favorite "classic" Wendigo movie. Minimal supernatural stuff and good suspense.
Awesome ! I love Halloween and I’m so excited to see what’s next ! Keep it up Jon your amazing and story tellers like you should be valued so much more .
Halloween is the Satan's holiday if you're a Christian or believe in God...then you should stop celebrating them...Halloween Christmas Thanksgiving fathers day mothers day ALL ARE PAGEN HOLIDAYS intended for rituals....look into the origins of each...not telling you how to just helping out if your are a Christian or believe in God
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Ravenous, a Great movie. It talks about the myth too and correctly.
Bro you're an inspiration. Been watching since 2015 but never like a MASSIVE CAN'T MISS fan (sorry not sorry? xD loved your content, didn't need to live it?), and looking at your over 1m subscribers and essentially life's work thus far, you're doing it right man. Wish I could have just had the balls to start a channel based something I find myself enthralled in and didn't know I could make it part of if not my entire job: doing what I love!?! how tell me, where sign me up, when yesterday didn't know this as an optional reality anymore) then garnering millions of people who have a similar passion and unknowing in how to make it their job so they watch someone like you (ie, any TH-cam video about their interests who have large fan base) instead of doing it themselves like they may endeavor to but don't know how to capitalize - heh literally and figuratively -
I digress, I digress.
Wait... That was Jared Leto in that movie that I had no intentions of watching? Huh...
Blackwood story sounds like a skinwalker a Native American folklore it’s a witch doctor who can turn into People or only Predator animal
Love your videos but it's pronounced App-uh-lay-she-uh mountains. Thanks for the great content keep it up.
Just so you know, until dawn actually got the wendigo pretty good. Instead of being a deer like creature, it had the shape of an emaciated human, with an insatiable hunger for human flesh, and the only way to kill it was by fire. And in that series, the way someone became a wendigo was by getting possessed by the spirit of the wendigo after consuming human flesh, that of the living or dead
Just so you know we don't care!
Thats how I remember the stories from my childhood too that i read for myself
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@@skitzo9996 wow u rly got them there
I hate how the werewolf’s looked almost exactly the same but colored brown.
As a native American you did your research right. i do appreciate your work on this video. If you wanna do lores from different tribes you can research my tribe. we had a bunch of interest stories and we're in that Weird New Jersey Book. It's under the name Jackson Whites
Thank you for sharing your tribe's stories!
What is your tribe?
My tribe is full of amazing lore too Kiowa natives. ❤️
One of the few folklorists on YT that differentiates between the Hollywood versions and the original lore. The original lore is more than scary enough, the antlers are unnecessary. I guess they look cool, but then it's a completely different creature!
@@taekwongurl Hollywood mixed up skinwalkers and wendigos. So there are antlers, wendigo is the wrong monster.
Fun fact- When the Donner party became trapped by the winter snow, it didn't take long for their Native guides to abandon them. This was due to the talk among members of the party about who should be eaten first. The guides wanted neither to be eaten, nor to eat human flesh.
Do you blame them? I would be terrified. I dont think I could force myself to eat human flesh, especially having to LIVE with that for the rest of my life. In the same breath I would be scared that either I would die and they would eat me or I would be weak from not eating human flesh and being killed by another member of the party. Then you have to take into account that starving to death is painful and you are left with NO good options.
They got eaten anyway.
@@savagegardenrox No, they abandoned the Donner Party. They told the story of what happened up to the point they left. They didn't stay to be eaten anyway.
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For sure! And to top it all off, I think I also read that the some of the survivors of the Donner party were looked down upon by society for a while, due to the extreme necessities they had to do to survive. The survivors sadly had to carry their traumas and public scrutiny for the rest of their lives... :(
Yep they were way more civilized then those monster white men. Lmao
There's also a medical component to the consumption of human flesh. It's rare, but if one human consumes parts of another, they can contract a disease called Kuru. Kuru is an infection of a protein that slowly deteriorates the brain causing motor dysfunctions like tremors and trouble walking and swallowing. Essentially, it's Mad Cow for humans. So in the event that someone becomes a cannibal and contracts Kuru, the symptoms would seem similar to the descriptions of the Wendigo. Neat, huh?
Yup
It was found in natives of Papua New Guinea, and eventually discovered to be a prion ingested because of their ritual eating of the dead.
Specifically brains and spinal cord.
They also eat their souls.
I've often wondered if a prion disease from eating human flesh was part of what led to the wendigo myth.
Kuru certainly fits the bill.
This is in the movie "Book of Eli".
I also heard how it triggers somethinf in some people like more testostorone, or more violent etc due to the chemical released ina human that knows its gona be killed tonbe eaten, its like not wanting your animal to suffer not just becuase its wrong but because the adrenaline changes the entire flavor, well with humans it changes more then flavors..... Nothing good comes from it my people are from. Mexico, that is the work of the darkside imo
My grand mother is Native American and a part of the Ojibwe tribe and would tell me stories all the time about many different folklores, including the Wendigo. This brings back so many memories.😊
Giving us nightmares and selling us mental health...
Well played, Solo.
🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for specifying that the Wendigo is an Algonquian legend, and not just lumping all Natives together. My wife is Haudenosaunee (Onondaga (Iroquois)), and she hates when white folk think all the different tribes are the same. Saying something like "Native Americans believe..." would be like saying "Europeans believe..." and I would be hard-pressed to find a single thing all Europeans agree on.
Just curious, because I've been doing research on exactly that subject for a writing project, but is there a version of a wendigo like creature from the native American tribes of the Nevada region? I search Google but there were actually very few legends from those tribes that turned up and actually very little information at all compared to other tribes. I'm also having trouble because I work too much lol 😆 might be better to just talk to somebody who knows things
@@albigensiac3206 Thank you for taking the time to explain this to Jon and those of us who like to read the comments in the comment section. Between you and Jon, I feel like I learned a lot about something that appeared as a "monster of the week" in a "Supernatural" episode.
@@albigensiac3206 You're welcome. I wish I could hover with my mouse over "Megwe'ech" so I can hear how you say it! I've been subscribed to Jon for a while now, as I love how he goes into detail about whatever subject he's talking about. I also like learning more about things I only know a little about or things I had no idea about. It's a good channel and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! 🙂
@@albigensiac3206 Thank you, nôhkom.
Nah only white folk who live in the cities, alot of us white folk in the country side or grew up near reservations know better, my grandma is Navajo/Apache and half Russian Gypsy, my father is Irish gypsy and is also half Haudenosaunee Iroquois.
As a Native American myself, I'm glad you did research and made this video and I'm glad you used used respectful terms
I remember in 3rd grade I was fascinated with mythology and wanted to do a visual presentation on the Wendigo, as I found it extremely fascinating. When my mom asked what it was, I started to go into detail. As this was a 3rd grade presentation she quickly urged me to do something school appropriate(as talking about a terrifying cannibalistic creature might have traumatized my fellow peers lol) so I changed it to the phoenix. Apparently when someone asked the generic “how did you pick your topic,”
I proceeded to say, “well I wanted to do mine on wendigos but mom said it was too violent, which is too bad.”
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Pay no attention to the Jesus comment. I’m 99% sure it’s just a bot
Antlers/horns= Prey turned Predator. Many a horror artist will try and layer in the unsettling concept of what we eat turning into what eats us by adding in the detail of horns and or antlers. It's not always NECESSARY for visual horror, but it is pretty common for a monster that eats people in some way to also get horns, even when the legend didn't start that way.
I thought it was mixing in aspects of Norse mythology
@@graceindeswoods5090 Most cultures have some variation because it is so commonly unsettling.
Yes but it isn't accurate to actual algonquin mythology
@@stuffynosepatrol Many people don't care if art has any correlation to history. Some of them are artists, and the rest are consumers. If it sells, who cares if it's a random conglomeration of folklore from around the globe because money rules the world. Fight back by holding on to your money.
@@noxlumen2711 Look, I dont care about the majority of what you just said but saying "it makes money so why complain about it" is ligitimately the most stupid argument to justify anything I've ever heard and I'm getting sick of hearing it. But yes, artists should be able to draw whatever they please, but its irritating to see people try to perpetuate even more misconseptions about a culture that is already incredibly misunderstood, especially when said misconseptions originate from rich white guys tryingnto make money off of some movies in the 70s.
Great episode! In fact, I was floored to hear your retelling the "The Wendigo" by Algernon Blackwood. I was very young staying at my Grandmother's home. I was put to bed on the couch and to help lull me to sleep, she turned on music on the radio. Unfortunately the music show was soon over and next was a radio play (yes, it was a very long time ago when that was a thing). It was this horrible story. To this day, some 70 years later, I can still hear the actor's cry. "My feet, my poor burning feet!". Needless to say, there was no sleep that night.😀
Was that before or after the scary stories to tell in the dark book?
@@valleytothebay4891I came here to mention that! I loved those books (and any scary story books) as a kid.
Oof that sounds VERY ruff
Why didn't your grandma change the station ir switch it off? oO
@@juliamavroidi8601 They were in another room talking. They didn't realize that the music show was over
The show Hannibal also depicts Hannibal the cannibal himself as a wendigo, the description you gave but it also has antlers, but that probably because will graham is hunting him. It fits because he was starved as a child in a war and was forced unknowingly to eat his sister, attributing to his disturbed psyche.
Ooooooooooohhhh for year I always wondered what that creature was, thank you for telling me this I understand the story a lot more now
Holy crap! I didn't even think about that! :O
@@ravendragonseeker138 same. Mind blown
This show is why I started researching wendigos a lot more actually. I thought the Hannibal show did am interesting approach on the wendigo
I’m recovering from anorexia and it’s scary how much of this rings true for me. Especially the part of an ice cold heart because the world felt endlessly frozen to me. The physical description sounded like me when I was at my worst. I felt much less than human. Spiritually, emotionally, and physically a husk of what I once was.
Thanks for the perspective
Good luck :)
I hope you're doing much better now.
I say "I feel like a human again" after I've eaten, a lot.
I hope you're doing well ❤❤
Bless you . I hope you are still healthy and doing well. Xxx
Perhaps not only malnutrition contributed to the wendigo’s sullen and peculiar appearance. Perhaps the elements such as rain, the cold, disease and lack of sanity could have played a part.
Have you ever heard of the sleep experiment? Ts seems like what would create a wendingo but then again idk anything about this stuff jus here to learn nbs
Even though Until Dawn took it a step further with the entire "curse of the wendigo", I personally thought they conveyed the lengths of disparity a person would have to go to to lose their humanity pretty well, and aside from the whole superhuman cursed ghoul thing it was a pretty faithful representation.
I'm...just...so...hungry...it...hurts...
Algernon Blackwood has some incredibly creepy stories. I learned about him about a decade ago from a fellow lover of all things horror. If anyone is looking for stories that might make you sleep with a light on, check him out. I’m so glad you brought up his connection
Wow, I haven't thought of Blackwood in years! I'm definitely going to locate and re-read some of his work. Thank you!!
Edit: I tend to scroll the comments before playing the videos and I got really excited at the sudden memory😂 oops!
I was on a Blackwood kick last year...he's definitely underrated!
I love Algernon Blackwood. He's one of my favorites.
This is my least favorite of all of his tales, because of the racism.
@@gertrudelaronge6864 My discovery of him was almost a kind of trope in itself. My first year of college, a LOT of years ago, randomly grazing through shelves on an upper floor and the name on these worn-out old volumes catching my eye. And then, thumbing through the pages, still reading as I sat down at one if the community tables. I'm actually laughing thinking about how cliche that sounds!! :p But he has that effect.
@@TitularHeroine have you read "The Willows"?
Or, "The Occupant Of The Room"?
The way Gunter's face lights up when you talk to him is just the best. My dog is too old for baby talk, but he's always happy to see me after work.
No dog is ever to old for baby talk
one interpretion of the wendigo concept i really love is the idea that people would get so desperate, theyd eat other people and because of how our brains work, in order to process what theyve done, theyd purposely imagine that they transformed into a different creature as a way to escape the harsh reality of their actions.
As an Anishinaabekwe I love that you made this video. Also it's cute how you pronounce Ojibwe, like oh gee bway, I say oh jib way. Thank you so much for making this so accurately, I laughed so loud when you said antlers are scary because I always hated that in modern lore the wendigo has antlers like wtf
I've always loved the thing ever since I read a book on it as a child. It was also pretty graphic, depicting a decrepit-looking man holding the severed head of another. I've researched it plenty since then, though it was hard since my community doesn't have a solid connection to the old culture. Other stories I've read depict the creature as an evil spirit, a personification of winter and selfishness, with many different attributes like speed, mimicry, etc. It's really cool.
simple the Europeans had far scarier folklore. so it was decided to put a deer skull with antlers on the wendigo because a skinny guy is far less scarier than a man eating skeleton deer. plus the natives were murdering other natives claiming them to be wendigos
@Jon Solo there’s another movie about cannibalism in North America that you didn’t mention: Ravenous. It’s about the Wendigo more as a psychological concept that infects a person, rather than a horrific physical transformation, and it’s set during the Western Expansion. It’s really good, well worth a watch.
Great movie!
Its such a good movie omfg
Thank you for doing the Manitou/wendigo story the proper justice its needed not just a creepypasta buzzword that would better fit the Man of the wood or the spirit of the wild in European culture
Man of the wood and spirit of the wild?
@Anna with two n the god mainly of the hunt. He also represents the harder seasons of autumn and winter when fresh foods were more scarce until the rebirth of spring and return of planting and of more rewarding hunts.
@@anna.owo. i think that's where the physical aspects of popculture depictions of the wendigo come from, especially eastern european wilderness demon leshy, which is ofter portrayed as a sort of human and deer hybrid with features usually associated with any kinds of monsters such as claws and sharp teeth.
thus making the modern wendigo™ a creole of native american mythical creature with the looks of a completely separate european folklore entity
I’m Cree and Métis. This is a very good video! In my cultures, it’s very bad luck to say their names but my kokum would teach us stories of these creatures (in Cree, Wīhtikow) and the Rougarou(French origins but lots of Métis are told of this creature as well). I love how much research you did, seeing accurate teachings and knowledge is always amazing to see :)
I like the way the Wendigo is portrayed in the Antlers movie. I think it does a good job of combining the original myth with the americanised version by having the antlered form being the final form while the first form being an emaciated human
I believe the antlers could be due to the term, “not deer,” as they’re often confused with Skin Walkers… it’s also considered bad luck & risky to speak of & say the actual term (Wendi..) as the lore says they will target you if you say their name.
literally never heard of that outside of some people on the internet so i'll take that with a container of salt.
Or because antlers are generally associated with tribal stylistics
Skin walker 😆😆😆
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Now you should do one on the skin walker, since lots of people get them confused when they are entirely different
Exactly.
Technically you are not supposed to talk about SWs
@@dallasgrey4247 Facts
@@dallasgrey4247 Technically fictional creatures can’t hurt you.
@@theangrysuchomimus5163 it’s disrespectful for people not of Navajo descent to talk about it. Navajo do not speak to non Navajo about it. Fictional or not, your not supposed to talk about it.
I always liked and feared the story that talking about it will make the chance of it appearing more likely. Also the tales of it using the voices of people you've lost in the wilderness, taunting you to madness by blaming you for their deaths. Can't remember where I learned of it though.
stories like this are called "cognito hazards" which is knowing of something and therefore making it more likely to happen. a youtuber Wendigoon has a great video on them i recommend it
The look of happiness on your face when a fur baby jumped on your lap is beautiful.
honestly the wendigo is one of my favorite folklore monsters, and i would love to learn even more about it
I actually shared my own original Wendigo story with Mr. Sinister. One of my best works. This video was a joy to watch, thanks for stepping into Spoopy Season with the right foot!
Right foot most literally! Or more apropos, feet.
Pet Semetary...The scariest part of the book for me in mid-late 1980's. Going to college in Orono, Maine at the time...we would " freak each other out" with Wendigo stories while taking late night "nature walks" that may or may not have involved various intoxicants.
Great episode!
Your concluding analysis is spot on.
I don't think I've ever been spooked by a story yet but this one gave me goosebumps.
I find this video extremely fascinating as I studied Cherokee mythology and folklore in college, and there were many creatures similar to the Wendigo portrayed within those stories. The first one to come to mind is Spearfinger, a creature described as a woman with skin of stone who stole the livers of children for consumption. Not quite the same but the human consumption part really stuck out in my mind lmao
I went to an elementary school for Ojibway children and I remember hearing this story and then not sleeping for weeks.
Seems like a lot of serial killers could be used to prove the real description of a wendigo lack of feelings and all around evil
Just wanted to let you know that I always enjoy your videos and appreciate the time you put into researching each of them. Have to also say your wife is blessed.
i dont know why, but Jon's delivery of "Oh god, look at his feet!" really stuck with me
There’s also a creature in Native American mythology that resembles the alien from the Predator movies. A few bead artists I follow on IG mentioned it. “Never go out on the land after dark.” I’d love to hear more.
What is it's name?
You lost my attention at "a few bead artists i follow on IG"
Boycott predator
Jon's intro: Talks about spooky season and gruesome topics.
Me, watching this a couple weeks till Christmas: "Yes... go on..."
Same here 🤣
Lol the 23rd
@@lilari6146 Thus, the true spooky season has begun. 🤣
*spoopy season
I must be a prophet or something because i was just a few days ago thinking that why aren't there some quality videos about this subject,and here it is finally.
I think the reason theyve grown antlers and other animalistic features in modern day is because theyve been fused with another american terror the skinwalker.
There are three types of ravenous flesh eating monsters that roam the forests (that I have learned about). Wendigo, Wechuge, and and Tall Deer.
Wendino: look as John described, and have their origins in canibalism.
Wechuge: look humanoid but have an animal skull for a head such as a wolf or bear skull. Their origins deal with offending your animal guide.
Tall Deer: look like the typical wendigo image that you see used as a wedigo video thumbnail. Humanoid with a deer skull and antlers for a head. Their origins are murky, they might be evil deformed deer people.
Skinwalkers: are native people who delve into evil black magics to become a skinwalker. They can shapeshift into animals of their choosing, or half change into a human animal hybrid if they like. They are not ravenous flesh eating monsters, but they do evil and often kill people.
nope
@@mortthereefer3343 very informative and logical response. Very helpful.
@@LordUroko88 someones mad...
@@mortthereefer3343 ... I'm with Mort.
This was very interesting and well told. Your vast amount of research shines in well planned and put together videos. Great job!
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As a big supernatural fan, TYSM for adding this, ik nearly every epi of the show and love it🤩🤩🤩
No mention of "Ravenous", the killer 1990s movie about Wendigos? You should watch it: great soundtrack, crazy compelling story.
That was good movie! Glad i wasnt only one remembered it lol
Great movie! Haunting soundtrack!
I'm listening to this at work, doing work things, and the story STILL sent a chill down my spine. *shivers* Well done!!!
Yesss!! Do as much Native American folklore as possible.
It's late at night, and that story by Blackwood was chilling to the bone. I kept getting paranoid myself, making sure no one was sitting in the chair next to me, or in the dark outside my window. I probably would've gotten more paranoid if I was alone.
You should do an messed up origins of the Loch Ness monster along with other lake monsters in other countries!
I like Wedigos as a cautionary tale. With rent prices rising and food becoming more expensive as well, times are getting tough and people are getting more desperate. That struggle to keep your humanity as you struggle to fulfill your base needs is scarily relatable.
I personally think Native American culture and folklore is so engaging an interesting. I fell in love with it after living up in Montana for a few years.
I'm from Europe, and I've always been interested in mythological creatures, especially skinwalkers and the wendigo.
I've seen them in some games.
I always wondered after learning about the Wendigo if it was a bit of morality tale. Maybe based on the possible illnesses that have apparently been caused by cannibalism - prion diseases etc. I can’t remember the exact location, perhaps somewhere around Papua New Guinea, but there had been a tribe known for cannibalism and many were found to be suffering from prion diseases and associated mental health disorders. I’m probably not explaining this very well, but I know what I mean 😂
Jon! ... I'm 42 and remember THIS EXACT story after so long. I first read this in 4th grade English as I recall. The phrase while not accurate "My feet! My fiery feet!" has been stuck in my head all these years. I got transported so to speak. Subscribed and thanks!
I listen to the Wendigo narrated by Amy gramore almost every night. It's on TH-cam and it's definitely the best narration of this incredibly creepy story. Algernon blackwood is an amazing writer. His word choices and sentence structures are so evocative he drops you right down in the middle of his world.
All TH-camrs work hard, but man you honestly go above and beyond in your research and script writing. Great work. Followed your channel for quite a while now as I'm obsessed with Norse and Greek mythology but have stayed because of the high quality videos, great research, and a great lil doggo 👀 My channel is all about educating on various Business concepts and I wish my content was as interesting as yours hahaha!
I like these longer episodes! Thanks, Jon!
i first heard of the Wendigo from a season 3 episode of Lost Tapes. it involves a group of hikers getting lost in the Appalachian wilderness and one of them, a man named Matthew Gahl becomes the Wendigo leaving him and another hiker, Lane Corey as the sole survivors though she gets killed and possibly eaten in the end as well as the three rescue personal that tried to find them. the invent was chocked up to as a black bear attack either by assumption or possible cover up by some SCP foundation style group. that's a good Lost Tapes theory.
I know the wendigo with antlers is known as the "pop-culture" version but when I googled wendigo and looked at them, none came even close to the mental image i have of it
When i think of the wendigo i think of a malnourished thin skinned humanoid with unnaturally long bones wearing a rotting deer skull and hide kinda like a raincoat or a cape. And i love that image of it more than any depiction i have ever seen
Sounds cool as hell, better then some humanoid deer
Sounds almost like leshen or leshee. Think its a more eastern europen figure
This is by far the scariest thing I’ve heard in many years. So interesting!! Thank you for the impeccable research, Jon.
The story and trial of Jack Fiddler is an interesting story about the Wendigo and how far a Man would go to protect his tribe. Everyone should check it out.
This is my first video of yours ive seen and it did NOT disappoint!!! Had me gripped from start to finish! i absolutely believe in Wendigos and to hear the origins was awesome!! cant wait to watch more!
Wasn't expecting It's always Sunny to explain about Wendigo's hunger
I haven't watched one of your videos in 2 yrs. Glad to see ya still making quality content
I saw the Monstrum video about the wendigo, what made me interested is that in the video Natives also saw wendigo more like owl instead of deers. I really want to know how the evolution of the wendigo changes throughout the years
My first introduction to wendigos was the episode "Skin & Bones" from Fear Itself. A truly chilling performance from Doug Jones.
I ran to the comments to see if anyone had mentioned this. Hands 🙌🏽 down the creepiest depiction of the wendigo ever. Pretty accurate to the lore too
Curious if you'd consider covering Scottish folklore in the future? There's definitely a lot I think you'd find interesting to explore :)
Love this video as always and hope your well :)
I know nothing about Scottish folklore so I hella want this.
@@miragedown There is another TH-camr I follow that's covered some of it Liath Wolf who is good but Jon Solo has a magic to the way he explains folklore so I'd love to see his take on it and I know his research is as thorough as can be :)
I know a little bit of Scottish folklore but not much
This was extraordinary and kept my attention the entire video!! I have watched your Greek mythology and true story "fairytales" but this interests me far more. The thought of someone's mind actually breaking to a point where they are just a shell of what they used to be is so fascinating, we see all kinds of mental illness this day in age but I cant imagine how these people felt experiencing it first hand. As always Jon, It was amazing hanging out with passed you and I look forward to more Folklore!
dude, the sound affects while you told the story gave me chills!!!!! Do more! More creepy stories!! Love it! That is once you run out of mythology. I can't get rid of the goosebumps!
I loved this! I remember finding out about Wendigos from another mythology channel, but they only showed a story about a family of wendigos.. The story, the horror, it's all so cool! Thanks for the video!
Extra credits?
@@thecloudedleopard3063 Yep. :D
One of my fave characters from a show is Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. He's human turned-demon who was a serial killer _and_ a cannibal when he was alive. His demon look is based off a deer _and_ a Wendigo. He loves venison (deer meat).
still staying tuned in
Thank God you didn't post this last night. I was terrified during the day. The artwork was on point.
The story I heard when I was a child living in Maine, about the Wendigo, had nothing to do with cannibalism. It had more to do with people going mad, and running away like their feet were on fire, while they disappeared or burned from the feet up, and would float up into the sky. How accurate that is, I'm not sure. It was around 30 years ago, but that's what I remember of it. All of this took place in the wintertime too, in the story I heard. I'm probably misremembering it, or maybe they just excluded the cannibalism part because we were kids. It was still scary to me though.
Scary Stories to tell in the Dark. The og book series had that version. It clearly was not a wendigo but based on some other myth. But they gave it the wendigo name in the short story. I remember reading it too.
That sounds exactly like the Algernon Blackwoood story
I’ve been following you for years and I can still say. You’re one of my favorites to just listen to when I’m stoned. Always interesting info to be learned here. ❤️❤️❤️
YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS! It's the scariest monster ever to be created.
Didn’t think I was going to see a video be posted at 6:00 am
Me either this is definitely a weird way to wake up. But I'm okay with it.
It's 5am for me, equally as surprised but can't complain!
@@natillaamg228 oh so your one hour behind us that’s Cool
Not me forgetting that time zones exist
Because of your old video on it, I actually decided to read the legend of sleepy hollow a few days ago, good book, thank for that Jon
YAY, spoopy season!!!! That was SUPER interesting, Thank you for taking such a deep dive into this legend.
i was randomly clicking videos starting from ancient civilizations to finding the lost kingdoms then stumbled upon your Vampire videos which lead me to this video. i first heard about Wendigo from a tv series Grimm but i never really delved into until this. thank you for sharing.
the story telling in this video is ON POINT! I was completely entranced. Awesome job! I am thoroughly spooped.
This is crazy i was just looking for a video by you about the wendigo and now you posted one this is dope love the content
I wrote a research paper on wendigos back in high school, which was very interesting since I live in an area where the folklore originated. It's cool to see a lot of the stuff I wrote in my paper also being brought up in the video. Like Swift Runner! I read so much about him and wendigo psychosis.
I wrote this comment under a different video, but I thing you would find it interesting:
My family is not Native, but I do have a story that my grandfather told me about his dad when I was a kid, before he started to lose his memory. (I am a french speaker, so I might mistranslate some things) He told me that one winter, his dad came back from the cutting wood camp (back then, mens would go to the woods with friends for a while to cut wood because it is easier to transport wood by horse with snow on the ground) with a crazy story. He said that, about one week in, one of the guys attacked his older brother with his hatchet. When everyone came back to the camp, they found the brother had locked himself up in the cabin. He was bleeding a lot, but thankfully he was alive. He told them what his little brother had done. The men looked in the surrondings of the camp and they found the attacker 5 minutes away from the camp, with blood on his face. It is believed that he had eaten the strip of meat the had cut from his brother. He attacked upon being found, and even with 5 other guys trying to keep him down he ended up escaping. He was never seen again. People think he died in the woods, except I heard other stories about homeless people dissapearing around that region enough that I suspect the guy became a ''wendigo''.
Also, he likely diden't do it out of hunger, because they had food at the camp. He may have had a mental breakdown (wich is what is assumed nowadays, back then they though he got possessed).
Loved this one.
There is a disease called Kuru that is caused by cannibalism especially the eating of human brains. That could of led to the wendigo.
Some of the symptoms are malnutrition, dementia ,behavioural and mood changes just to mention a few.
That sounds entirely plausible.
Yes. It's a prion disease similar to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (maybe they are the same) or bovine spongiform encephalopathy.
Ayyy this finally reached a million views!! That's how good this folklore is ❤
The Wendigo is shown a lot in the show Hannibal he's even compared to the Wendigo.
Hannibal was some fucked up shit.....imo
While the physical aspects of a wendigo are creepily awesome, its truly itd symbolism that makes it equal parts horrific and tragic. Alsl, if you look at the hunger part through a metaphorical sense, the wendigo can be incorporated into our more modern examples of greed and selfishness. How enough is never enough to quencb one's hunger.
Sounds like greed and selfishness was part of the lesson, the reason why native Americans would tell the story. Tho in a much more practical "make sure you're prepared for winter/don't make your wife pay with her life for your poor decisions" way. But yes it makes perfect sense to expand the moral into the bigger issue of greed and selfishness
Wonderful video! I remember discovering the concept of the Wendigo through Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Excellent story telling!!
I love those books. Sadly, I only have the first three. I plan to get the others soon.
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What is Tell in the Dark?
@@nintendogamingchannel1007 It's Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, a book series about old legends, some modern legends, and various horror stories with creepy imagery with it. It's awesome!
Funnily enough, my introduction to the Wendigo was via comic books, as the beast was a foe of the Hulk. In the 80’s, artist/writer John Byrne attempted to rework the lore of the Wendigo to fit more in line with its folklore. But it was still a massive beast, not emancipated. However, the curse of eating flesh was the catalyst for the transformations…
This was definitely the most interesting and uniquely descriptive take on the Wendigo I’ve ever heard. Usually the stories of the wedingo are as sensational as possible without much history or research given. Much appreciated. The description of a man running off into the Forrest with the trail disappearing reminds me of David Paulides missing persons reports where many times a group of people will describe a similar event of one member in the group inexplicably running off into the Forrest leaving the group behind never to be found and with no rational explanation to why or where they would have went. There have been many documented cases of individuals disappearing from view and their footprints abruptly ending in the middle of the snow. I don’t doubt the validity of these reports seeing as they’re too numerous and similar to dismiss. The only logical conclusion when faced with the seemingly impossible is that this world is stranger and far more mysterious than we can ever imagine. Love and blessings 🙏
As a history buff, it's interesting to see a horror story set in a historical setting (1800s North America)
Amazing story telling had me on the edge of my seat.👏🏽
Me: Oh you're back _Niceee..._ [yawn].
Jon Solo: We're going to cover a topic you're gonna love...
Jon Solo: ... _The consumption of human flesh._
Me: *I'm listening.*
p.s. - Damn this must be the most straightfoward intro you've ever done.
If u put a bunch of eeeees at the end of the word nice you're saying Nicey.
Repeating a letter to denote emphasis or whatever, means u gotta repeat the letter corresponding to the sound u wanna emphasize.
So Niiiiicccccce wud make a lot more sense to the eyes than Niceeeeee.
Ya know what I mean
Until Dawn is one of my favorite video games, the wendigos in that game were terrifying and also the twist at the end of the game with one of the wendigos was well thought out. Thinking of replaying that game now.
this is the peak of my horror interests. Just you narrating with your typically friendly voice, without even using intense details let alone graphics, im terrified. guess im just weak
I’ve encountered a windingo , it looked like the werewolf from Harry Potter. Its skin was grey ,with no hair or antlers . It paused and rose to full stature while it was half way across the foot path we were on . The back of its hand and wrist dragged on the ground kind of like a gorilla walks . It just slowly looked at me and my friend then continued over the trail into a ravine.
Lol, drives me crazy every time I see a 'Wendigo' with antlers. They have never had antlers!
I know it sounds weird, but for some reason, I've always really liked the wendigo. I actually wrote a story about one, using the Native American lore I could get my hands on to use in the creation. Thank you for making the video, Jon. It's much appreciated, since I haven't seen many truly researched videos of the wendigo. Keep up the great work!
Also, thank you for including wendigo psychosis. It's rare to hear anyone mention that.
Would love for jon to cover the lesser key of Solomon or the ars goetia
The first one, hell no.. that’s absolutely terrifying.
Is this because of Helluva Boss or because of Biblical lore? Just curious.Either way, I want the same.
@@DoubleDealingDisarray biblical lore for sure. Jon covered many mythology and these books are close to mythology.
@@shepherddog1199 the lesser key of Solomon? Nah its nothing
@@bellatrix7564 Awesome!
seriously loved this ep of messed up, ecpecially the spoopy and unsetling story
I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned Ravenous (1999 movie, iirc). Probably my favorite "classic" Wendigo movie. Minimal supernatural stuff and good suspense.
Awesome ! I love Halloween and I’m so excited to see what’s next ! Keep it up Jon your amazing and story tellers like you should be valued so much more .
Halloween is the Satan's holiday if you're a Christian or believe in God...then you should stop celebrating them...Halloween Christmas Thanksgiving fathers day mothers day ALL ARE PAGEN HOLIDAYS intended for rituals....look into the origins of each...not telling you how to just helping out if your are a Christian or believe in God