Phantom Menace: 25th anniversary of the hype, fandom, merchandise, filmmaking and marketing

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  • Twenty Five Years ago The Phantom Menace arrived with levels of hype never seen before or since and although it ultimately failed to meet those expectations it ushered in a new era of fan-driven enthusiasm that continues to this day. This is not the story of a dream that was left like a limbless smoldering mess on banks of a Mustafar lava river; it is also the story of how new technology changed fandom and the movie-going experience forever.
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    ⏱️TIMESTAMPS⏱️
    0:00 Intro: The Road to Menace
    1:14 Every journey has a first step
    6:04 An Expanding Universe
    13:00 The Force awakens
    17:13 Jedi remastered
    21:41 A certain point of view
    26:32 A Disturbance in the force
    28:52 War plans
    33:15 Tall tales from the set
    35:17 Prepare for Hyperdrive
    44:01 The Trade Federation has gone too far
    49:27 Coming to your galaxy
    53:36 Stay on target
    57:34 The Aftermath
    1:06:06 The Legacy
    Summary: Star Wars The Phantom Menace was a film 20 years in the making, and like the original film before it, Episode I pushed special effects to new heights, changed film marketing, merchandising and fandom. Released at the internet was entering the mainstream The Phantom Menace was one of the first films to take advantage of the internet for marketing and also saw the birth of a new breed of online fandom that not only celebrated the film but also demonized it. This is a story of unprecedented movie hype and ultimate and predictable disappointment.
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    The Road to The Phantom Menace: The Star Wars prequels, fandom, film making and merchandise.
    Written and Edited by Graham Trelfer
    Presented by Robin Bailes
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  • @francoisgermain3991
    @francoisgermain3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I'm a 52 years old Star Wars fan, and this amazing documentary brings back so many memories. Well done, sir. VERY, VERY WELL DONE!

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you, it took a while, but it was fun remembering a more carefree time.

    • @francoisgermain3991
      @francoisgermain3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DarkCornersReviews You tell me! Also, you made me buy a Hammer films bo set... and it's a blast! Cheers!

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews dud you have the toys as kid

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zacharyjochumsen9677 Of course. But many of their heads were chewed beyond recognition.

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews I have the two lightsabers with the qui gon hilt the green one and the blue one except the blue one is getting a little worn out

  • @mariakelly1059
    @mariakelly1059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It's heartbreaking to hear what happened to Jake Lloyd.

  • @neonthunder3261
    @neonthunder3261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    TPM lowkey underrated as fuck. Its unique even amongst the prequels as sort of a bridge between “here’s normal boring space life” to “oh shit the Sith are back”
    Also pod racing was my hyperfixation as a kid

  • @voodoochile333
    @voodoochile333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Thing you can take from this is: Mark Hamill is a great guy

    • @leadvendor
      @leadvendor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The guy is a legit mensch. I love him.

    • @cankhovich1796
      @cankhovich1796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      unless he is pressuring his son's ex to abort their child

    • @Double-R-Nothing
      @Double-R-Nothing 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mmmm! Age like milk, this did!

    • @voodoochile333
      @voodoochile333 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Double-R-Nothing yeah.
      The Internet never forgets.

    • @abrahamengel5768
      @abrahamengel5768 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Mark Hamill used to be a great guy

  • @benpaterson2237
    @benpaterson2237 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Proud Prequels/Clone Wars kid here. Ep. 1 was my first introduction to Star Wars and I love it warts and all. You've done an impeccable job with this documentary, one of my personal favorites on TH-cam.

  • @NickBartolo
    @NickBartolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    These longer documentaries are becoming your strong suit. Keep up the excellent work.

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you like them!

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews so how oldvwre you when this came out

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharyjochumsen9677 21

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews so your 44 yers old acthuly you look wy younger than thst you lok mor like young to mid 20s than 40s

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews so doy still hsve thse acthion figurec I had the lightsabers of quik gons blade but it was two colors one gren snd ond blue I thought ghd blue one whad to b ed obi wan's ir lzt leastvsomdother jedi scus saber

  • @davidreyna7410
    @davidreyna7410 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man, if there was one pop culture event I could time travel to experience, it would be this one.

    • @rlmaass
      @rlmaass 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. Worked in a movie theater 98-99. The hype of Star Wars consumed most of our attention.

    • @kylekullin2520
      @kylekullin2520 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Batman 89 for me.

  • @Tyr-qz2lo
    @Tyr-qz2lo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Of all the videos I’ve seen that illustrates the period where the Phantom Menace was being built up, this is my favorite.

  • @haileyshannon7548
    @haileyshannon7548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Red Tails was a passion project Lucas had for years! I once found a Lucas fan magazine/newsletter from 1994 and it was mentioned in it.

  • @georgejones8481
    @georgejones8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A fantastic late 90s media time capsule. Hope it gets the traction this great video deserves

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you.

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is a remarkable bit of work examining a phenomenon that must seem kind of unbelievable these days to people who weren't old enough to remember it. Not the most disappointing film I've ever seen in the theaters, but that's mostly thanks to going to the D&D movie opening night. Last Star Wars film I've seen on the big screen, and honestly I don't regret it a bit despite having loved the original trilogy as a child.

  • @gabbyjustgabby6127
    @gabbyjustgabby6127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why doesn't this docummentary have more views? The amount of work here shows and deserves more recognition.
    I was born in 2001, so this whole SW debacle is just insanely interesting to me, just right now am I learning all this wild ride of a franchise that I love with all my heart.
    Great work!

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you it was a labour of love. Sharing the video will help it get more views.

  • @connorbrennan4233
    @connorbrennan4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Very refreshing to see a take on The Phantom Menace that wasn't filled with disappointment, anger, and hate; just love for the art and an appreciation for how the film influenced the future of entertainment media. This is the most detailed and knowledgeable retrospective yet from Dark Corners. Excellent job.
    My earliest memories of Star Wars was watching the original trilogy on VHS with my parents (the unaltered versions). It wasn't until when I grew up that I realized we had a copy of Menace as well. I actually watched the prequels in reverse order, so Menace was the last one I watched. While the prequels are not great films, they and the original trilogy helped me learn much more about how filmmakers brought such imaginative concepts to life.

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Connor the Sam thing with thscmarkwting later happend with episode 3 with ths msrchrndise being kept scetert until once the film came out

  • @muttjones222
    @muttjones222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Brilliant video on the Phantom Menace! Even after reading and seeing behind the scenes footage and other retrospectives and breakdowns on the film, you still managed to give new information I’d never heard of. A real fantastic overlook at a unique event of film history!

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks!

    • @escottamezcua6814
      @escottamezcua6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I agree I was 11 years old when this movie came out and I didn’t even know like 80% of this stuff I remembered going to Toys “R” Us to try to get a Darth Maul figure and I remembered us not being able to get it in us giving our name and phone number and then eventually they called us and saved us one

    • @escottamezcua6814
      @escottamezcua6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews and thank you thank you for all the contents that you make you do a very good job I hope you make more Star Wars stuff and I cannot wait to continue watching a horror videos

    • @grahamtrelfer
      @grahamtrelfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@escottamezcua6814 Probably a little way off, the Star Wars vids don't do as well and we need to work out a unique angle to come at them. There is an idea for an Empire Strikes Back video, but just a nugget of an idea right now.

  • @kristian_goddard
    @kristian_goddard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a fantastic documentary about the no man’s land of Star Wars history. Brilliantly done!

  • @odotb9916
    @odotb9916 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Im about to go and watch the film in the cinema for the 25th anniversary re-release! I saw it once in '99 again in 3D in 2012 and now for the third time in 2024.

  • @Schneekardinal
    @Schneekardinal 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Saw it on the big screen a week ago. What a beautiful film, I never realized. Due for a critical re-evaluation.

  • @joshua2814
    @joshua2814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was at the midnight premier which was also the opening of a local cineplex (AMC). It was exciting. I defended it for a while; the soured some; and now haven't watch the preqs in years. Now, I'm convinced the Star Wars story ended in 1983.

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm 52 and I still love this movie. It was also the first DVD I ever bought. The hype was unreal I kept buying the magazines that had tidbits of info. It was the first time I heard of Liam Neelson and the magazines just Saud he was playing a venerable Jedi Master.

  • @thepizzeria5365
    @thepizzeria5365 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who was born in 2000 and thus missed out on the hype for Episode 1-2, I adore videos like this. Had no clue the tone poems ever existed.

  • @volodymyrbilyk555
    @volodymyrbilyk555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How this video is not hitting one million is beyond me

  • @WilG082
    @WilG082 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the best things about stars wars is the excitement and build up around a new Star Wars movie. I hope it happens again soon.

  • @mikedestazador5116
    @mikedestazador5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your long videos are really becoming the last true shows on youtube

  • @havareriksen1004
    @havareriksen1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Having been a Star Wars fan since the age of 5, I was sorely disappointed when I watched The Phantom Menace at the cinema. And I don't accept over hyping as the main reason for that movies failiure to deliver. I was also a fan of the books of J.R.R. Tolkien, and though there were aspects of the story Peter Jackson changed that I was not pleased about, the hype for the long awaited Lord of the Rings movies still didn't make us feel the movies were crap. They were simply made with better acting and better story telling than the prequals. At any rate, Dark Corners delivers tons of information without judging lovers and haters of the movie. Continue the good work.

  • @RavensEagle
    @RavensEagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Amazingly detailed and well researched piece.
    It honestly deserves way more views that it's currently getting.
    Thank you for this

  • @garcemac
    @garcemac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    American Graffiti was brilliant - as is your longer reviews, Robin. Every time I see this movie I think of Happy Days, Aloha Bobby and Rose, and Benny And The Jets. I am 57 years old and I THANK YOU for taking me back to my younger days.

    • @garcemac
      @garcemac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And yes, The Phantom Menace sucked.

  • @kali3665
    @kali3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "So this is how liberty dies - with thunderous applause."
    Probably the best -- and most prescient -- line George Lucas ever wrote.

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depressingly accurate.

    • @leadvendor
      @leadvendor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right? Oh boy, that line has simultaneously aged beautifully and badly.

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was such a good line I thought Lucas was quoting it from somewhere.

    • @LolliPop2000
      @LolliPop2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, depressing to live under Trump's boot; remember how he ... um, did something. I hope Darth Bezos can lead us into the Unicorn Candyland of Freedom.

    • @benkenon
      @benkenon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It wasn't prescient. It was commentary on the run up to the Iraq war.
      After 9/11, George W. Bush positioned himself as a wartime president who was beyond all criticism, because to criticize the president was to criticize the United States. There was a lot of corny applause from congress whenever Bush addressed them, the media largely refused to criticize the illegal practices of his administration, and his obvious intellectual deficiencies were edited out of the clips of speeches we saw on TV, so if you didn't see them as they happened, you wouldn't see them at all. This didn't change until after the 2004 election, when he tried and failed to privatize social security, completely flubbed the response to Hurricane Katrina, and scandals related to the lies he told about the Iraq invasion, and scandals began to stack up related to attempted cover-ups of military abuses there.

  • @joannefisher3281
    @joannefisher3281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I saw The Phantom Menace ten times as well. I loved it.

  • @vivalaminion2936
    @vivalaminion2936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go-motion was co-created by Phil Tippet and ILM. The technique adds motion blur to make the movements seamless and take away the jitter.

  • @KingComanche
    @KingComanche 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, those practical effects were super cool. I never knew all those sets and miniatures were there.

  • @ngershon
    @ngershon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watched with dread, as if watching a horror movie. A brilliantly done one. All that excitement and build up for a flop. Made me realize Lucas is probably the most frustrating pioneer in cinema history.
    And I LOVED the music choices, Mahler 2, Dvorak 9, Tchaikovsky 4, amazing. Missed a bit of Wagner perhaps.

  • @tyrannozilla
    @tyrannozilla 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I still love Phantom Menace and the rest of the prequels (un-ironically) I didn't care what the naysayers said back in the day.

  • @SenorHuxtable
    @SenorHuxtable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Late 90s star wars hype - Well I know I had a few of the toys shown here, as well as the games! My best memory was using the new films to bond with my dad, who was a fan of the films before I was on the scene. We also put on some pounds getting those fast food collector mugs and toys

    • @kylekullin2520
      @kylekullin2520 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have the Batman Forever cups!

  • @wilfredohernandez154
    @wilfredohernandez154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude your documentaries should win awards!

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We did get nominated for one earlier this year, but didn't win. Maybe next year.

  • @JoshAddison78
    @JoshAddison78 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your long form dissections are amazing. I've commented on several, and this continues the quality. Thank you.

  • @heroeshorrorscats1888
    @heroeshorrorscats1888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In awe the amount of work you put into this! But loved every minute. Especially the voice-overs. Well, one voice-over.

  • @aarons1811
    @aarons1811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've seen 'The Phantom Menace' maybe 20 times. I've watched the Obi, Qui-Gon, Maul duel maybe 50 times 😂.

  • @richsadler2661
    @richsadler2661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just rewatched this and it’s even better than I remember. Well done, chaps.

  • @AstheCrowTries
    @AstheCrowTries 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is FASCINATING. As a millennial I remember the marketing bullrush but this documentary really puts into perspective why and HOW this really changed things. I'm a historian now and I always tell people that a lot of the time, it's the context of an event that is far more interesting than the event itself.

  • @RevokCronenberg
    @RevokCronenberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Kudos. A very well researched article, objective and interesting to watch. That hour and 10 minutes flew by. :-)

    • @ObiKKa
      @ObiKKa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I agree. I liked it too. His team or perhaps it's just only one person working on this video (unlikely) as the narrator and editor managed to find so much information that I couldn't believe. Like the old images and videos of those old website designs, being able to play the trailer on old software like Real Media Player and QuickTime Player. Oh, that took me back to that time. Haha.

  • @gary-pv8vz
    @gary-pv8vz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An incredible wealth of detailed information.

  • @keithmockett3810
    @keithmockett3810 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This must be a pinnacle for you! I projected it in 4K and it looks excellent! Well done!

  • @Schneekardinal
    @Schneekardinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a top-notch documentary and deserves far more than those 12.000 views. Very good work.

  • @dip.918
    @dip.918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't know why but seeing how excited people were for this movie and Darth Maul makes me so happy. I hope everybody excited for it are prequel die-hards today!

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly what I was thinking. I know a lot of people hated it when they saw it, but there had to be SOME sizable percentage of them who came out happy and have kept up with that era!

  • @HEDGE1011
    @HEDGE1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I saw the original film several times in the theater as a kid and absolutely loved it. I saw the original trilogy in the theater and liked it. As a young adult I saw The Phantom Menace in the theater...and couldn’t have loathed it more. I haven’t seen a single minute of anything Star Wars since then. It was, for me, the end of quality storytelling and the beginning of digital special effects as a substitute.
    What’s amazing to me is how much I genuinely loved this documentary. I’ve always loved Dark Corners, but in absolutely every way this presentation was both more thought-provoking and entertaining than the film it’s focused on.
    You did a tremendous job on this.

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you. With these larger docs we do try to find a different story to the one other people are telling. Always good hear when people appreciate it.

    • @matthewlogan4267
      @matthewlogan4267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree 1977 star Wars will always be the best star wars movie rip david prowse before it was called the new hope i remember when I Knew it as just star wars I hate that they renamed it

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkCornersReviews do you rember the hype for this film

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkCornersReviews rod you rember supershqdow

    • @fdsajfldaskjf
      @fdsajfldaskjf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “The beginning of digital special effects as a substitute.”
      Yeah, about that. Half of the things you think are CGI in The Phantom Menace aren’t act CGI. This may come as a shocker but Stuckmann and Plinkett lied. Like, a lot.

  • @FreihEitner
    @FreihEitner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TROOPS is from 1997?! Holy cripes, that's a great looking and well made fan film for any age but utterly incredible for 1997!

  • @scottym6239
    @scottym6239 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What an amazing film you have put together - So much work must have gone into this , thank you !

  • @alexanderhall5561
    @alexanderhall5561 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So well told and produced!! Just wonderful!! Thanks, A.

  • @garyjust.johnson1436
    @garyjust.johnson1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was able to see the original 3 movies at the indian hills theater, in omaha, nebraska, the last Cine-Rama movie theater, featuring a circular auditorium and curved wide screen that filled the viewers peripheral vision. And the wrap around sound with speakers set up behind and on all sides. Quite an experience now lost to developers.

  • @monkeymanbob
    @monkeymanbob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen this 3 times. Each time I've fell asleep during the bit on Tatooine . I'm amazed that this hot mess has any fervent fans - of which it seems to have in spades according to various social media outlets.
    The thing, for me, where the prequel trilogy drops the ball is the deconstruction of Vader - "Oh Annie...."

  • @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
    @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember seeing it in cinemas with my father as a 10 year old and even after 24 years it’s still has the problems the movie had and problems with fandom and division and hype

  • @franzferdinand2
    @franzferdinand2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have many complicated memories and reactions to the prequel trilogy, but one thing remains constant: the trailer reveal of the double bladed lightsaber was the raddest thing my 14-year-old self had ever seen.

  • @heatrayzvideo3007
    @heatrayzvideo3007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was so excited for this film. I saw it at the cinema. At the beginning the excitement in the theatre was palpable and so was the wave of disappointment about 20 minutes in when everyone realised the film was a bit naff.

  • @AdamqK
    @AdamqK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Re special effects (16 minute mark): I used to have a book when I was a kid about special effects in the cinema, taking in Melies' camera tricks and O'Brien and Harryhausen's stop-motion, but it by the time it was published, some time in the early 70s, it admitted that there wasn't much going on any more and didn't seem to have much to write about, even in the 60s (I seem to remember it considered James Bond stunts, including a guy getting spear-gunned, as "special effects". Only a handful of years after the book was published, everything kicked into overdrive again, thanks to Star Wars.

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We are thinking about doing a longer special on pre-computer special effects.

  • @garethdowson
    @garethdowson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Phantom Menace on the big screen, in Bangor North Wales ahem, and it washed through me like a dream. Thank you, Mr Lucas. Not seen it again because it wouldn't be the same. Who else can claim to making dreams outside of sleep?

    • @charlestaylor253
      @charlestaylor253 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seeing TPM first-run in May 99 washed through me like a dream and left me feeling drained afterward, too. Just like waking up in bed with diarrhea. 🤮💩

  • @billhardy7870
    @billhardy7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVED this. Thank you for one of most informative sessions on a film I have ever seen. You covered anything and everything I could have imagined. Thank you!

  • @jimnasium452
    @jimnasium452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Phantom Menace blew holy hell chunks but even knowing that I would still buy a ticket to walk out of Waterboy if that was my only way to see the trailer.

  • @carlesq.
    @carlesq. 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    well done,excellent documentary

  • @ThreadBomb
    @ThreadBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People talk about the rise of geek culture, the "triumph of the nerd", but looking at Star Wars fandom it seems what actually happened was that geek culture was invaded and taken over by jocks and dudebros.

  • @KaitainCPS
    @KaitainCPS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One element that always tends to get missed out in these histories - West End Games' "Star Wars: The RPG", a pencil-and-paper roleplaying system first released in 1987, was a major keeper of the flame in the late 80s and early 90s, and also began the process of codifying canonical knowledge about people, places, vehicles, technologies and lore in the Star Wars universe, in both the core game book, the first Sourcebook, and then other sourcebooks for the Rebel Alliance, the Empire etc. The kind of stuff we now take for granted on things like Wookiepedia - all of that really started with the Star Wars RPG. They invented many elements of it themselves, in consultation with Lucasfilm, who then awarded it canonical status. (It was also a really fun system to play with!)
    Watching "Andor" last year felt to me like watching a TV show based on the Star Wars RPG: rather than focusing on the grand luminaries of the saga, much of it was about the grubby business of being a mid-level operative in the resistance during the heyday of Palpatine's rule as emperor.

  • @harshckuk
    @harshckuk ปีที่แล้ว

    This brings back a lot of memories. Great job, man

  • @Nosferatu981
    @Nosferatu981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video deserves 100x the views it has.

  • @spews1973
    @spews1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am not now nor have I ever been a Star Wars fan. But I am a Dark Corners fan. This was another fascinating video. A fascinating cultural history, you might say. Keep up the good work!

  • @tecumsehcristero
    @tecumsehcristero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robin is fantastic at these documentaries to give you all the background and hidden information

    • @robinbailes5236
      @robinbailes5236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! But I feel obligated to say that this one was Graham's baby, I just turned up for the voiceover and checked the spelling.

    • @tecumsehcristero
      @tecumsehcristero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robinbailes5236 oops! I often forget that this isn't entirely your show that there is another guy. I didn't want to insult anyone

    • @robinbailes5236
      @robinbailes5236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tecumsehcristero Don't worry, I forget about him as well sometimes.

    • @tecumsehcristero
      @tecumsehcristero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinbailes5236 LOL

  • @AdamqK
    @AdamqK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow -- finally finished it. thanks very much -- it was an informed and intelligent look at the whole thing, and really put things in perspective. I was horrified to learn Jake Lloyd's fate -- I didn't like his performance, but didn't think he was any worse than most child actors of he 60s and 70s (hell, I grew up with Lee H. Montgomery).
    While I did see and love the original Star Wars (twice, in quick succession) I only caught up with the subsequent sequels on TV and rental, but also enjoyed them thoroughly. When they finally released Phantom Menace, I was wary -- how can you recapture that moment? - but when I eventually saw it on its release, I didn't enjoy it as much as I hoped I would but certainly didn't hate it as much as a lot of the reviewers had. The backlash made it a pleasant, if not overwhelming surprise. Unfortunately, when I saw the sequel to THAT, I was so confused by what was going on and whose story was being told, I just gave up.
    But...hey, no love for "Hardware Wars"? Or even....the Star Wars Xmas special? Surely THAT deserves a mention!

    • @DarkCornersReviews
      @DarkCornersReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So many little things I left out, Hardware Wars (which I do own) was a rather cheeky omission as I wanted to focus on Troops being the driving force that started the fan film movement. Other cuts included Lego which because of Mace Windu introduced race into what had been a yellow only world. Terrance Stamp's main reason for doing Star Warswas to act with Natalie Portman, and then all scenes were on a green screen and he never met her. The Phantom Edit was in and out. Tweaks like that is why it took so long to finish.

  • @alwooga2531
    @alwooga2531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really superb content, and I’m no Star Wars fan. This must have taken forever to make but I hope to see more stuff like it on this channel.

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great retrospective documentary - I hope it gets eventually all the views it deserves given the hard work that went into it!
    I remember back in the days in Italy there was surely a lot of hype but nothing that dramatic as weeks of queeing - probably because the US release had already happened months prior (we had it released in September) and some less than enthusiastic reviews had started circulating. I remember my parents and I being a bit underwhelmed: while amazed by the special and visual effects and the climatic battle, the movie seemed to be dragging and lacking that extra emotional punch.

  • @josephdeane9158
    @josephdeane9158 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant work! very enjoyable and unbiased. Which, with Star Wars is refreshing.

  • @lenircotia
    @lenircotia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not the Phantom Menace was overhyped, the fans negative critics were overhyped, even until now!
    The Phantom Menace is a great film!

  • @paullynch1246
    @paullynch1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! There is some fantastic footage I have never seen and it took me right back to 1999

  • @devox3291
    @devox3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An extraordinary documentary! Extremely well done! 💯🔝🏆

  • @Palmieres
    @Palmieres 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:03 Look at that cat on Mark's lap! OMG!

  • @matthewlogan4267
    @matthewlogan4267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The original trilogy will aways be the beast

    • @matthewlogan4267
      @matthewlogan4267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I meant to say best

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewlogan4267 It can be two things.

    • @matthewlogan4267
      @matthewlogan4267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThreadBomb 👍

    • @kylekullin2520
      @kylekullin2520 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Batman 89 is better!

    • @matthewlogan4267
      @matthewlogan4267 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @kylekullin2520 it's a good movie

  • @hawkerhellfire9152
    @hawkerhellfire9152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the use of Holsts the Planets throughout this.

  • @tgif1345
    @tgif1345 ปีที่แล้ว

    The clip you used at 55:01-55:04 is from my hometown in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, and I knew that particular newscaster, his name was Max Keeping and he was a staple of this city for several decades. Great video overall too.

  • @duncanmacleod2953
    @duncanmacleod2953 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was enjoyable! Thanks for making it. Brought me back 😀

  • @PseudoNym13
    @PseudoNym13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd really have liked to have seen the Lucas version of 7-9

  • @christopherwilson3754
    @christopherwilson3754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great documentary. Even handed, fair and interesting. Well done. Thank you.

  • @glenhayman8722
    @glenhayman8722 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Troops is still amazing thank you for this it brought back my college days

  • @darealpapajon
    @darealpapajon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im seeing this movie in theaters in may. I was only 3 when this movie first was released

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U bring amazing amount of research to your channel!

  • @Pauldjreadman
    @Pauldjreadman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just see all this. I knew that there would be buzz around it because it had been Soooooooo Long since Jedi, but it I think in this case the journey was better than the destination.

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn this was a trip. I discovered Star Wars through the 95 VHS re-releases. I think I had a crash course in Star Wars fandom. A compact version of what OG fans went through. All the way up to Phantom Menace.
    I don't think I'll ever be as exicited for something, as in denial about something, as hateful about something, before becoming as indifferent toward something like Star Wars ever again. But for all his faults, I am regretful that Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney. His sequel trilogy may have been bad, but they'd be his. Not designed by committee.

  • @paulo64bits
    @paulo64bits ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this amazing documentary, my friend.

  • @kali3665
    @kali3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, Robin, a fantastic video. Thank you for your work.

    • @robinbailes5236
      @robinbailes5236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Although I should say, I was just voiceover on this one, Graham did all the writing and research (about 3 years worth!).

    • @kali3665
      @kali3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robinbailes5236 Yes, I should credit him as well. You are lucky to have such a great researcher and producer.

  • @gioiacobucci
    @gioiacobucci 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

  • @wilfredohernandez154
    @wilfredohernandez154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never sit that long for a TH-cam video, you never disappoint!

    • @AdamqK
      @AdamqK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto, and I'm not even a Star Wars fan!

  • @Ciscokidcapo
    @Ciscokidcapo ปีที่แล้ว

    31:38 ahhh my two favorite things crossing together…as a massive Pac fan it would’ve been cool! He would’ve been badass as windu

  • @ScientistSplinterGrp
    @ScientistSplinterGrp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job, I know it didn't get the views expected, but I liked it. Now I wait the last trilogy documentary. You have till 2029, good luck.

  • @inyourfacestudios101
    @inyourfacestudios101 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a brilliant video! Must have taken you a lot of work, so you should be proud

  • @nilskalsdorf5483
    @nilskalsdorf5483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic review -as always.. thanks and continue the good work ! :-)

  • @petercastillo2752
    @petercastillo2752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive watched this video like 40 times in past few months

  • @SD-kx1se
    @SD-kx1se 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the larger perspective, only focusing in on a hardcore fans’ POV ignores details the same fans crave.

  • @ashdoginc
    @ashdoginc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very professionally done. It definitely provides a good perspective of that period. There is not a lot of movies that people get really hyped up for these days. Movies were once an event - now you have so much to choice from it's mindboggling. I do wonder if George Lucas considered the movies as for children, why Lucasfilm fueled the hype to that level?

  • @futuristica1710
    @futuristica1710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing documentary! 👍🏼

  • @RX552VBK
    @RX552VBK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video essay on the Phantom Menace.

  • @niktri8312
    @niktri8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this video is legitimately painful, seeing all that hype building up for a movie that we now know couldn't live up to it, ughhh.

    • @lamecasuelas2
      @lamecasuelas2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's been like 20 years just get over it

    • @charlestaylor253
      @charlestaylor253 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't go home again, sadly...😓☠️

  • @johnpabst2960
    @johnpabst2960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kudos on this. Well done doesn't really cover it. Initially, I wasn't a *super fan* of the Prequels, with Attack of the Clones being my least favorite mainly due to a rushed script and terrible dialog. This was in part due to the fact that I was much older and the mystery, magic, and spectacle that made the first 3 films so magical were done in other films at the time, such as The Matrix. But the fact that Lucas was never good at character generation also hurt them too, with too many instances of Obiwan and Anakin talking about all of these wild adventures without the viewer actually seeing them. HOWEVER, after watching the rubbish that Disney gave us in the last 3 films, I've since taken a much more endearing attitude towards them, especially EP1 and III.

  • @timnolan5467
    @timnolan5467 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Say what you will about the film, there’s no denying that this is, and will probably forever be, the most anticipated movie of all time. The only other films that have had as much hype have probably been The Force Awakens and Endgame.

  • @frozenpumpkin9083
    @frozenpumpkin9083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic documentary.

  • @josephangiulo8601
    @josephangiulo8601 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe that Austin Powers stole that "if you see only one movie this summer, see Star Wars" joke from a much earlier trailer for... maybe Time Bandits?