The most underrated Goalie in history. Sure Ozzie gave up some weak ones but the dude was lights out when he absolutely had to be. As a wings fan I've always felt like he got a bad rap. It's ridiculous that he's not in the Hall. We Love you Osgood, from the D!
Roy, Brodour, Hasek... All those guys are guilty of letting in weak goals. Osgood was also the youngest goalie to reach 100 wins. Ozzy deserves his spot in the HOF! During his summers he still played golf with Ken Holland and the upper management while he was on other teams. Never once did he ask to come back or beg to be a Red Wing again. He bidded his time. When the opportunity presented itself, he was ready to be a Wing again. Total class act. Hard to beat. Gave his all every time he was in the net...
Couldn't agree more! Ozzy has earned his place in the HOF. He was shit on so much, but despite that, remained loyal to the game, and to his teammates. He is one of the greatest goaltenders of all time.
Chris Osgood deserves to in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Just googled it: Ozzie "is the only goalie in NHL history to win more than 400 (401) games and lose fewer than 250." Now that deserves recognition. This should be a slam dunk for the Hall of Fame select board. And Ozzie was a 3-time Stanley Cup winner, each time with the Wings.... Quit stalling and put Ozzie in the Hockey Hall of Fame....
Of all the goalies that have come into the league in the last 50 years, (since 72') only 5 are in the Hall right now. Roy, Belfour, Hasek, Brodeur, and Fuhr. That's insane, especially when you look at the long list of goalies in the Hall from like 1900-1930. I don't even know who they are mostly. Lol. Ozzie belongs, so does Joseph, Vernon and possibly a few others like Barrasso, Thomas, Moog, etc. Joseph isn't in because he couldn't win a cup with Detroit, but Osgood won two as a starter, and Vernon won one and the Smythe, and yet they're not in.. hilarious. It's going to interesting in the next few years, starting this year with Luongo being up for consideration. If Joseph isn't in, why should Luongo get in? Guys like Lundquist, Rinne and they Quick, Fleury, and others will be up soon too. Fleury kinda resembles Osgood in some ways. I don't know, I'm done rambling lol
What are they going to do? Wait years from now until Ozzie dies and then act like he was the most awesome goalie ever?! Install him in the HOF now so we can all celebrate him. 🎉🥅
Vernon and Hasek each won 1 cup in Detroit. Osgood won two and led the team to the finals 3 times. No disrespect to vernie and dom, I liked them too, but when you look at it from a success standpoint, osgood was the best goalie in Detroit when he played and he even had a size disadvantage! It’s a shame of how under appreciated he was. And that’s all I have to say other than OZZY! OZZY!
Vernie was old by then. Already won a cup in Calgary and had a ton of success there. And mentored osgood. I love Ozzie but put some respect on Vern and dom too. But I hear ya, most people put the other two above oz and you’re shouting him out
@@PainBreadzky yeah I respect vernie and dom, believe me, I just hate the way people crap on Osgood when he did so much in Detroit and barely gets any credit for it
I was born in 84, and started being a big hockey fan after watching the rangers win in 94 and living in Michigan I started rooting for the wings. I remember them going against the devils in 95, and riding the late 90s and early 00s wave with the wings. It was awesome. In 1995 though I started collecting Osgood and Fedorov hockey cards. Two players I consider on the same par within their respective positions. Osgood especially was my favorite even though he wasn’t their main, he should have been. Just his longevity and dedication to the wings is amazing, well almost as amazing as his goaltending. It made me so happy how he contributed to the 08 cup.
Ozzie is a pit bull in the net. He’s got the dog in him. He’s definitely one of the top tendies in the history of the NHL and deserves to be recognized.
Osgood whether he was as good as hasek was the best goalie detroit has ever had. He played the longest in the D out of any net minder we had and had great stats plus he was the only goalie we had who won more than one cup here. Vernon was great and Dom was exceptional but ozzy is the wings best goalie of hockey's modern era
30# Chris Osgood is such an iconic NHL goalkeeper. And yet he is at the very same time never considered one of the best of his time, despite near evrey season delivering decent to great numbers that satisfied his team & Red Wing's supporters. Just speaking about his iconic classic goalie helmet and he is instantly recognized by casuals. However, he have fallen on to an unstable platform that repetedly have questioned him how "Good" he really was both then during his career and after his career. Its hard to make justice for Osgood's case in general and the only agreed positioning he have is that he was "never a bad goalie", but that leaves the debate field very wide open for all kinds of "proos" and "cons" and that is the case of why he is left on that unstable platform. Common critisism arguments that involves his career are; - Osgood was good enough, but he always played on a strong team(s) with the dynasty Red Wings. - Osgood in his Red Wings career always had top level of defensive protection both from the elite level defenders (Lidstrom, Murphy, Coffey, Chelios, Fetisov etc) and forwards (Federov, Yzerman, Larionov, Holmstrom, Shannahan etc) so he was rarely tested on his own. - Osgood was only a couple of times an All-Star goalkeeper and never was selected to represent Team Canada in the Olympics or World Cup or World Championships. While those are arguments that are hard to question/contest, Osgood did however prove pulling his own weight (at least IMO) when he was traded to the NY Islanders. Remember, the Islanders of the middle 90's to late 00's was NEVER a stable team and often came up short in the play-offs with early exits or missed the play-offs all togheter and no elite level players wanted to set there foot inside the team unless they where paid a boat load of money. Osgood near on his own lifted them up from a bottom position season prior to a 5th Eastern rank and delivered many solid performances that made you really re-think how good he was. Still when you (Red Wings) was offered the possibility to have on there teams elite level of goalies like Mike Vernon, Dominik Hasek & Curtis "Cujo" Joseph, Osgood just felt not good enough - or special enough to keep. So he repetedly got the shorter stick. AND YET...he never lost faith in himself and never acted out in anger like most top goalies have at one point or two done in there careers when replaced. Many goalkeepers have near given up when replaced twice. And Osgood was in THREE TIMES! He was always accepting it gracefully and like a good teammate. He was always working his best to be at the best level he could and always worked hard to give confidence to his teammates and coaches. That was a streanght he is not given credit for, or at least not enough.
Beautifully written. Very good point on how many goalies would be able to recover from being given up on more than once. What a special goalie, nay what a special human being.
He was replaced twice on the Wings, but I wouldn't even call Vernon his replacement, he got plenty of playing time the three seasons Vernon was there. Vernon got the nod for the cup run of '97 due to experience, but was traded that offseason, because Holland felt it was Ozzie's time. Until the '00-'01 offseason when he was waived to make room for Hasek, but Holland wasn't actively trying to replace him, he fully expected to go into the next season with Ozzie. Hasek landed in Holland's lap when Hasek told his agent he wanted a trade to Detroit and to make it happen. Holland would have been a fool to turn that down. Hell, any GM without a goalie named Brodeur or Roy (although i think Hasek in his prime was better than both) would have been a fool to. The only other time i can think of him being replaced was in St. Louis (maybe that's the third time your talking about?), when their GM picked up Patrick Lalime, who he thought was better than Osgood (quickly proven wrong), despite Osgood playing well with a winning record. Ended up back in Detroit, and by then Cujo was long gone. Legace had the starting job already but melted down in the '06 playoffs and was let go that offseason. Hasek came back to split time with Ozzie, but Hasek started in the playoffs, which makes sense since he's Hasek. Next year same thing, except Hasek blew a 2 game lead in the first round and Ozzie came in. Never left the net again on the way to his third Cup. In the end, you could say he had a hand in Hasek retiring for the second time.
Could have made an argument he could've had a Vezina but Jim Carey won it instead. He wins that vezina or maybe if he got that Conn Smythe he would be seen with a different lens
Great video, you did some great research. There's surprising few that know he went to Bandit's goalie school in 08 and it produced great results. Justin Goldman of "thegoalieguild" had a section for "Enigma's" in his "Periodic Table of Goaltending", He has an entry for Osgood or (Oz) in this case, "An enigmatic and exquisite element that embraces and captures the essence of Chris Osgood. This includes hidden levels of mental toughness and the ability to camouflage their true positive elements by visibly appearing weaker or less potent than they truly are." Vernon was a tonic for Osgood and it was great to see that work out as great as it did. I feel Osgood carried that on quite well with Jimmy Howard when it was time.
@@KetaProductions He's brought a lot of "standardization" and defining "assets" and deeper conversations about the position. You could make a text book of NHL goalies and slap all their key elements next to them like it was goalie science class.
Very underrated. In 99 he gets hurt after playing great in round 1. 2000 his numbers were great but his team couldn't score. 2001 they had a bunch of injuries. I was happy when he came back in 05. Funny that he replaced Hasek in the 08 playoffs, the guy who took his job from him in 2001. Was also nice to make the fans shut up. He took over and went 14-4 in those playoffs and back to the finals the next year.
I really like your videos but it’s Jimmy Howard lol not Tim. But that’s just me being picky. Also, I loved Ozzy. Idc what people say about him. He was great. He deserves to be in the HOF.
he deserves to be in the hall of fame and should go in before overrated i made easy saves look hard mike richter lol that being said i think before he gets in mike vernon has to go before him
*Jimmy Howard
Thanks to Piano Talent for catching that.
The most underrated Goalie in history. Sure Ozzie gave up some weak ones but the dude was lights out when he absolutely had to be. As a wings fan I've always felt like he got a bad rap. It's ridiculous that he's not in the Hall. We Love you Osgood, from the D!
Roy, Brodour, Hasek... All those guys are guilty of letting in weak goals. Osgood was also the youngest goalie to reach 100 wins. Ozzy deserves his spot in the HOF! During his summers he still played golf with Ken Holland and the upper management while he was on other teams. Never once did he ask to come back or beg to be a Red Wing again. He bidded his time. When the opportunity presented itself, he was ready to be a Wing again. Total class act. Hard to beat. Gave his all every time he was in the net...
@michaeljones436 Roy and Brodour also played in front of great defenses but they get a pass for some reason
Couldn't agree more! Ozzy has earned his place in the HOF. He was shit on so much, but despite that, remained loyal to the game, and to his teammates. He is one of the greatest goaltenders of all time.
Chris Osgood deserves to in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Just googled it: Ozzie "is the only goalie in NHL history to win more than 400 (401) games and lose fewer than 250." Now that deserves recognition. This should be a slam dunk for the Hall of Fame select board. And Ozzie was a 3-time Stanley Cup winner, each time with the Wings.... Quit stalling and put Ozzie in the Hockey Hall of Fame....
Well said
Wow. That’s quite the stat!!
Hell yes, Ozzie deserves it.
Underestimated, undervalued, underdog
Understated. Undersized. Underutilized.
Underwear, undergarments, undergucchis..
Under fire, under the influence, under his wife
Haha your move
Ozzie belongs in the Hall of Fame!
I'm all for goalies getting more recognition, and Osgood is as deserving as any!
No...its the hockey hall of fame...not nhl hall if fame...the guy never did anything international
Mike Vernon finally got recognized. Ozzy will be in, in due time.
@kindrin4773 you don't know what you're talking about.
belongs in the Hall. Not even a debate. No question.
Agreed! Even more so now that Luongo's going in.
Osgood was my hero. Everyday he is not in the HOF is a travesty. Great video!
Agree x100. There aren't very many goalies who deserve to be in the HOF than Ossie. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Of all the goalies that have come into the league in the last 50 years, (since 72') only 5 are in the Hall right now. Roy, Belfour, Hasek, Brodeur, and Fuhr.
That's insane, especially when you look at the long list of goalies in the Hall from like 1900-1930. I don't even know who they are mostly. Lol.
Ozzie belongs, so does Joseph, Vernon and possibly a few others like Barrasso, Thomas, Moog, etc.
Joseph isn't in because he couldn't win a cup with Detroit, but Osgood won two as a starter, and Vernon won one and the Smythe, and yet they're not in.. hilarious.
It's going to interesting in the next few years, starting this year with Luongo being up for consideration.
If Joseph isn't in, why should Luongo get in?
Guys like Lundquist, Rinne and they Quick, Fleury, and others will be up soon too.
Fleury kinda resembles Osgood in some ways.
I don't know, I'm done rambling lol
Lots of good points. Luongo was my idol, but even I would admit Ossie should be in the Hall sooner!
from one Jim to another... you're right.
What are they going to do? Wait years from now until Ozzie dies and then act like he was the most awesome goalie ever?! Install him in the HOF now so we can all celebrate him. 🎉🥅
went to high school with ozzie in medicine hat. great guy
Always love hearing stories of the players. What was Ozzie like as a teen?
Vernon and Hasek each won 1 cup in Detroit. Osgood won two and led the team to the finals 3 times. No disrespect to vernie and dom, I liked them too, but when you look at it from a success standpoint, osgood was the best goalie in Detroit when he played and he even had a size disadvantage! It’s a shame of how under appreciated he was. And that’s all I have to say other than OZZY! OZZY!
Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy!
Man, do I ever agree with you
Vernie was old by then. Already won a cup in Calgary and had a ton of success there. And mentored osgood. I love Ozzie but put some respect on Vern and dom too.
But I hear ya, most people put the other two above oz and you’re shouting him out
@@PainBreadzky yeah I respect vernie and dom, believe me, I just hate the way people crap on Osgood when he did so much in Detroit and barely gets any credit for it
Hasek won 2 Cups with Detroit. Ozzy won 3 Cups with us.
I was born in 84, and started being a big hockey fan after watching the rangers win in 94 and living in Michigan I started rooting for the wings.
I remember them going against the devils in 95, and riding the late 90s and early 00s wave with the wings. It was awesome.
In 1995 though I started collecting Osgood and Fedorov hockey cards. Two players I consider on the same par within their respective positions. Osgood especially was my favorite even though he wasn’t their main, he should have been.
Just his longevity and dedication to the wings is amazing, well almost as amazing as his goaltending. It made me so happy how he contributed to the 08 cup.
Ozzie is a pit bull in the net. He’s got the dog in him. He’s definitely one of the top tendies in the history of the NHL and deserves to be recognized.
Osgood whether he was as good as hasek was the best goalie detroit has ever had. He played the longest in the D out of any net minder we had and had great stats plus he was the only goalie we had who won more than one cup here. Vernon was great and Dom was exceptional but ozzy is the wings best goalie of hockey's modern era
30# Chris Osgood is such an iconic NHL goalkeeper. And yet he is at the very same time never considered one of the best of his time, despite near evrey season delivering
decent to great numbers that satisfied his team & Red Wing's supporters. Just speaking about his iconic classic goalie helmet and he is instantly recognized by casuals.
However, he have fallen on to an unstable platform that repetedly have questioned him how "Good" he really was both then during his career and after his career.
Its hard to make justice for Osgood's case in general and the only agreed positioning he have is that he was "never a bad goalie", but that leaves the debate field very wide open for all kinds of "proos" and "cons" and that is the case of why he is left on that unstable platform.
Common critisism arguments that involves his career are;
- Osgood was good enough, but he always played on a strong team(s) with the dynasty Red Wings.
- Osgood in his Red Wings career always had top level of defensive protection both from the elite level defenders (Lidstrom, Murphy, Coffey, Chelios, Fetisov etc) and forwards
(Federov, Yzerman, Larionov, Holmstrom, Shannahan etc) so he was rarely tested on his own.
- Osgood was only a couple of times an All-Star goalkeeper and never was selected to represent Team Canada in the Olympics or World Cup or World Championships.
While those are arguments that are hard to question/contest, Osgood did however prove pulling his own weight (at least IMO) when he was traded to the NY Islanders.
Remember, the Islanders of the middle 90's to late 00's was NEVER a stable team and often came up short in the play-offs with early exits or missed the play-offs all togheter and no elite level players wanted to set there foot inside the team unless they where paid a boat load of money. Osgood near on his own lifted them up from a bottom position season prior to a 5th Eastern rank and delivered many solid performances that made you really re-think how good he was.
Still when you (Red Wings) was offered the possibility to have on there teams elite level of goalies like Mike Vernon, Dominik Hasek & Curtis "Cujo" Joseph, Osgood just felt not good enough - or special enough to keep. So he repetedly got the shorter stick.
AND YET...he never lost faith in himself and never acted out in anger like most top goalies have at one point or two done in there careers when replaced.
Many goalkeepers have near given up when replaced twice. And Osgood was in THREE TIMES!
He was always accepting it gracefully and like a good teammate. He was always working his best to be at the best level he could and always worked hard to give confidence
to his teammates and coaches. That was a streanght he is not given credit for, or at least not enough.
Beautifully written. Very good point on how many goalies would be able to recover from being given up on more than once. What a special goalie, nay what a special human being.
@@KetaProductions Amen my friend!
Thank you for your kind words.
As always, great video!!!!
He was replaced twice on the Wings, but I wouldn't even call Vernon his replacement, he got plenty of playing time the three seasons Vernon was there. Vernon got the nod for the cup run of '97 due to experience, but was traded that offseason, because Holland felt it was Ozzie's time. Until the '00-'01 offseason when he was waived to make room for Hasek, but Holland wasn't actively trying to replace him, he fully expected to go into the next season with Ozzie. Hasek landed in Holland's lap when Hasek told his agent he wanted a trade to Detroit and to make it happen. Holland would have been a fool to turn that down. Hell, any GM without a goalie named Brodeur or Roy (although i think Hasek in his prime was better than both) would have been a fool to.
The only other time i can think of him being replaced was in St. Louis (maybe that's the third time your talking about?), when their GM picked up Patrick Lalime, who he thought was better than Osgood (quickly proven wrong), despite Osgood playing well with a winning record. Ended up back in Detroit, and by then Cujo was long gone. Legace had the starting job already but melted down in the '06 playoffs and was let go that offseason. Hasek came back to split time with Ozzie, but Hasek started in the playoffs, which makes sense since he's Hasek. Next year same thing, except Hasek blew a 2 game lead in the first round and Ozzie came in. Never left the net again on the way to his third Cup. In the end, you could say he had a hand in Hasek retiring for the second time.
@@C77-C77 That I can agree with!!!
Could have made an argument he could've had a Vezina but Jim Carey won it instead. He wins that vezina or maybe if he got that Conn Smythe he would be seen with a different lens
Great vid once again!
Great video, you did some great research. There's surprising few that know he went to Bandit's goalie school in 08 and it produced great results.
Justin Goldman of "thegoalieguild" had a section for "Enigma's" in his "Periodic Table of Goaltending", He has an entry for Osgood or (Oz) in this case,
"An enigmatic and exquisite element that embraces and captures the essence of Chris Osgood. This includes hidden levels of mental toughness and the ability to camouflage their true positive elements by visibly appearing weaker or less potent than they truly are."
Vernon was a tonic for Osgood and it was great to see that work out as great as it did. I feel Osgood carried that on quite well with Jimmy Howard when it was time.
Thanks! That period table for goalies is so comprehensive, it's amazing. I may buy a poster!
@@KetaProductions He's brought a lot of "standardization" and defining "assets" and deeper conversations about the position. You could make a text book of NHL goalies and slap all their key elements next to them like it was goalie science class.
My favorite tender ever.
Very underrated. In 99 he gets hurt after playing great in round 1. 2000 his numbers were great but his team couldn't score. 2001 they had a bunch of injuries. I was happy when he came back in 05. Funny that he replaced Hasek in the 08 playoffs, the guy who took his job from him in 2001. Was also nice to make the fans shut up. He took over and went 14-4 in those playoffs and back to the finals the next year.
I really like your videos but it’s Jimmy Howard lol not Tim. But that’s just me being picky. Also, I loved Ozzy. Idc what people say about him. He was great. He deserves to be in the HOF.
LOL Tim Howard's the soccer goalie! I didn't even notice 😅
great vid as always!
Thanks 🙏
I really like your Videos 😀
Thank you sir 👍
Different Chris Osgood who played in the Suicide Commandos
Underappreciated for sure. Next up, Dan Cloutier!
That classic mask
@@KetaProductions no Felix Potvin!
Ozzy!
he deserves to be in the hall of fame and should go in before overrated i made easy saves look hard mike richter lol that being said i think before he gets in mike vernon has to go before him
Tim Howard = Jimmy Howard