Linux Servers: Which Distro should you use?!

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  • @logyross6883
    @logyross6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    wow I literally searched "which distro should I choose for a linux server?" yesterday. Amazing timing Jay :)

  • @randyriegel8553
    @randyriegel8553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I mainly use Debian Stable for my customers. As far as a few webservers that I run I use Gentoo. Gentoo is lightweight (no bloat) and can be configured exactly how you want it. It's a pain to setup but fun at the same time :)

    • @cqwickedwake7651
      @cqwickedwake7651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never used it but yeah, its basicaly LFS but on easy mode...

  • @amosgiture
    @amosgiture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    You hit all the critical points with this one. Oracle Linux deserves a mention due to its compatibility with RHEL and support options just like Rocky and Alma. Alpine deserves a mention too due to its small footprint and how different it is from the larger distros.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Oracle Linux is Oracle. So, no, we shouldn't even mention its existence.

    • @geoffhalsey2184
      @geoffhalsey2184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've two Dell servers running CentOS 7 and considering switching over Rocky Linux, but Oracle Linux is another option I'm thinking about.

    • @blendingsentinel4797
      @blendingsentinel4797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ You must know nothing about Oracle

    • @yevgenzhuchij3555
      @yevgenzhuchij3555 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oracle Linux is awesome

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your channel is way better than most other Linux content on TH-cam, thanks so much for this wealth of info.

  • @unpaintedcanvas
    @unpaintedcanvas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I've never been a fan of ubuntu, esp desktop, because of the choices canonical made, but I still find it as my default go-to for home servers since it simplifies so much of the setup process.

    • @Xenotypic
      @Xenotypic ปีที่แล้ว

      this

    • @Exotic69420
      @Exotic69420 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like both of them😂

    • @Xenotypic
      @Xenotypic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Exotic69420 debian is good too, i've set up an email server a month or two ago and haven't had to touch it since i set it up. definitely recommendable for a home server.

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At home I still have a Pentium 4 server with 2 IDE and 2 SATA HDDs in total 1.21TB, so I use 32-bits FreeBSD 13 on OpenZFS. Since it is ancient (2003), it is only powered on during the backup for ~1 hour/week. In this way I can use it till the end of my time, since all HDDs have around 2 power-on years on the clock. If I need more space, I could replace the 2 x 320GB SATA HDDs with larger ones. My desktop and laptop run Ubuntu also with OpenZFS.
    It is fun to find work for a ~20 year old PC in a Compaq Evo Tower with a Win98SE activation code, all parts are leftovers except a new $16 power-supply .

  • @elektron2kim666
    @elektron2kim666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's new to me. Ubuntu Server was my choice for a file server to my router as I was having problems with so many laptops and scattered files on them. A bit mind blown about how great it is. I made a lot of changes without problems. I use SSH in Thunar or issue commands through login in the terminal. I also got it to work from Windows.

    • @smith4591
      @smith4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you are making a just a file server (not a web server) I think you should consider use a NAS OS like TrueNAS Core instead a server OS. It's more flexible for kind of work you mention.

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    13:55 with developer subscription, RHEL can be used in production for free with up to 16 systems/RHEL instances, including RHEL VMs...

  • @StMidium
    @StMidium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For a real life example: I am a sysadmin, and at home, I run a Proxmox hypervisor with a mix of Debian and Ubuntu VMs, and Alpine containers, plus a kubernetes cluster consisting of four Raspberry Pis (all running Ubuntu). Fedora on my laptop, and Pop_OS on my gaming desktop.
    At work I administer a mix of Ubuntu and CentOS VMs, VMware and Proxmox hypervisors, and bare metal Ubuntu, CentOS and Windows servers.

  • @Gottfried.Leibniz
    @Gottfried.Leibniz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally use Debian for a web+php-fpm+mariadb+postfix+dovecot+smb + some image and video processing scripts (imagick/ffmpeg) server. It's 10 years now, only upgraded the hardware once (was not even needed but..hehe). Installed in 2011 and kept up-to-date. I see the love for Debian is widespread and I'm not surprised at all.

    • @SparQz
      @SparQz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always hear good things bout Debian, but then I also hear complaints about how long updates for stuff taking longer.

  • @amosgiture
    @amosgiture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Covered aspects of the age of packages in Debian and would've been nice to mention the same regarding the other distros

  • @ComradeRachel
    @ComradeRachel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thought it was interesting you covered SUSE but skipped Open SUSE which is their free version without enterprise support. Great video either way.

    • @xeiAiex
      @xeiAiex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7 minutes about debian, ubuntu, and rhel respectively, and 20 seconds to mention SUSE exists and also leaves out openSUSE Server *eye roll*

  • @diveshv7555
    @diveshv7555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I always like Debian for server...

    • @rawaniajay
      @rawaniajay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here!

    • @aaaqqwwqqddsw5509
      @aaaqqwwqqddsw5509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here but on laptop and vm.

    • @MattMcCullough
      @MattMcCullough 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Debian is awesome both for servers and PC’s

    • @cqwickedwake7651
      @cqwickedwake7651 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I only use Debian for server, Centos aka RHEL is so inconvenient, it always require 3-4 steps extra for the same results as Debian..
      Hail Debian!

    • @Joel-c9i
      @Joel-c9i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too, and I'm already used to apt and other commands, I couldn't use CentOS or RHEL

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RHEL (and derivatives) have the additional advantage of shipping with (and tightly integrated with) SELinux, which is in many enterprise situations mandated by policy. Admittedly nobody has ever had anything resembling a "pleasant" first run-in with SELinux, but it's not actually that bad after you read up on RedHat's (excellent, btw) documentation. And the security bonus it offers is VERY real. I personally know of several server admins who had their arses saved by SELinux after waking up to zero-day CVEs.

  • @sto3359
    @sto3359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I've been running Ubuntu servers on my LAN and I've never had a problem. That being said my usage isn't exactly intensive.

    • @joshaprior3699
      @joshaprior3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you tried debian, I used to use ubuntu and switched to debian it's a little lighter but you won't notice it that much tho

    • @noneya9721
      @noneya9721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have used Ubuntu for years for just about everything but as well know that for a more uptime and stable way to keep something up I learned it depends on what your doing so CentOS actually found ways to run any server correctly and less security issues

    • @jacksoncremean1664
      @jacksoncremean1664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ubuntu is a pretty solid server distro all around tbh but certain distros may be better suited for certain purposes eg debian for a db server

    • @smith4591
      @smith4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering the hardware support, I'll also go with the Ubuntu Server OS. Rocky Linux is promising, but it's kind of still new. Maybe few years down the road.

  • @BrucesWorldofStuff
    @BrucesWorldofStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been running Ubuntu servers on my home LAN and I've never had a problems with it. I use Webmin in my browser to work with it. It's after all just a basic file sharing server and nothing else. While I'm not a fan of snaps, Ubuntu server is the only Ubuntu product I use that has snaps and I guess it is ok in that respect. :-) I did try out 1 or 2 NAS software years ago while I had my NT Server but they got so complicated and hardware intense it not real. Just not a fit for a plain file server. With that said Ubuntu Server has worked Awesomely for me for years after my 8 year old NT server bit the dust. Ubuntu server is running on a old 2 core 4 gig computer that just sit there and hums away and works. Lol
    Thanks Jay for the video and I think the list was a good one.
    LLAP

  • @isopticon
    @isopticon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We are still waiting on more content about OpenSuse / Suse Linux! Taking into account that Open Suse is now nearly exactly same as Suse Enterprise it's a no brainer due to all of the issues Ubuntu presents nawadays. We have been running Suse since Novell times, my first server was on Pentium 4 originally installed with SUSE 9.3 in 2005 but first desktop in 2002 running Suse 7.3. This was before Ubuntu even existed!

  • @kenzieduckmoo
    @kenzieduckmoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually learned a bit from this. Mostly that CentOS isn’t dead at 8 like everyone said before.
    Also I’ve always been curious about OpenSuse and even tried to run it before, but had many issues trying to get it installed

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CentOS is dead unless you want to run an untrustworthy rolling release on your production server (newsflash: no one wants to do that). Red Hat are garbage, they killed off CentOS to force you to pay for RHEL. Thankfully most of the Linux community have their heads on right so everyone ditched Red Hat garbage distros and moved on to based and superior Debian.

  • @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork
    @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great walk through... Thanks!

  • @TakumiSoldier
    @TakumiSoldier 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very comprehensive, informative and concise! Thank you!

  • @navdahmd
    @navdahmd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Plz do Videos on SUSE and if possible to cover for SAP Deployment senario in it. Great Videos 👍😊

  • @derekgoodwine7509
    @derekgoodwine7509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ubuntu Server LTS! This is my choice and I based my personal server on this distro because I got your excellent book. In other words My personal internal cloud runs on Ubuntu! This is my "disto/way to go!". On the other end of the spectrum there is RedHat. RedHat is not was used to be. RedHat is almost a separate ecosystem in the IBM hands and when a huge corporation puts the hands on something most of the times it turns into greedy and awful outcome. I do NOT trust IBM while Canonical is definitely very fair! My technical support is your book Jay! Keep it up Sir! You are fantastic!

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol what? you don't trust IBM with red hat, but you trust canonical which are also a large (and very controversial) company? you make no sense.

  • @zaharib
    @zaharib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    openSUSE Leap has been working great for me 🥰. It has a very nice installer. It has great documentation. And if needed your Leap installation can be upgraded to a supported instance. Very clear and accessible pricing with a very understandable description of what you get. Alma Linux has been working out great too…

  • @BaDitO2
    @BaDitO2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as someone who has to manage SLES server in my job. Without wanting to write a big all of text here, it falls kind of apart when you try (or better said have to) customize it for the usage case of your customers. And the YAST aspects can also really also conflict with the internal management tools your customer has.
    While SLES isn't bad or something and I don't want to "hate" on it, I struggle to find a few things that it does straight up better than RHEL, ubuntu server or debian.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you have to go a different direction with SLES, and without understanding more about the situation you ran into, it sounds like a perfect example of why universal apps are such a good idea. Red Hat goes a different direction with app streams, but it basically solves the same problem in a different way. If you rely on the internal packages only, you'll eventually run into problems (with any distribution). This is why I'm such a big fan of universal apps.

  • @stack35
    @stack35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ubuntu Server for my home network. I'd never run Ubuntu on my desktop or notebook but for server usage it's great.
    Simple and solid.

    • @asgacc8789
      @asgacc8789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never because canonical or something else?

  • @Innocentdarkness72
    @Innocentdarkness72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jay have a great week !!

  • @kdg1955
    @kdg1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I too started with RedHat when it was still free. Afterwards I switched to Fedora and never felt the need to switch to another distribution. Also my cloud server is Fedora, first AWS now on your recommendation Linode.
    Personally, I think you should have paid more attention to Fedora Server, but this is just my opinion.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fedora server is a joke and so is fedora in general.

    • @kdg1955
      @kdg1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ps5hasnogames55 I appreciate your opinion. Even if we disagree.

  • @craigwoods2355
    @craigwoods2355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best distribution for servers is the one with the best security features and hardening. There’s just no better way to choose.

  • @fplove
    @fplove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, currently the choice of a server distribution I think is influenced by application. Nowdays, a lot of people install on VMs and use containers, the importance of the hardware support is zero in those contexts. My main choice is Debian (at least in the last 20 years or so) because of the support of a lot of programs in my application domain (not available on RH based distros) and the opportunity of supporting personally and directly packages of my interest in Debian main archive.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      debian is the best. simple as that. red hat is garbage

  • @linuxman0
    @linuxman0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice list; the information about Alma & Rocky was useful to me. I didn't know they were out there.

  • @user-iq2rz3sd8b
    @user-iq2rz3sd8b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I use Raspberry Pi OS Lite 64-bit for my server 👍

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      for which tasks ? dhcp, storage, dns, ad block, home automation, routing, internet firewall ...
      on rpi3 or rpi4, or compute module ...
      did you try dietpi ?

    • @matthewvanwinkle7631
      @matthewvanwinkle7631 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠I enjoy Dietpi myself

  • @urzu181
    @urzu181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just for sake of mentions there's Fedora Server as well. Yeah I know it's not really recommended for production work hey like you mentioned Debian Testing, Fedora Server can also go toe to toe. In fact we're running FreeIPA on a Fedora Server in our company and so far it hasn't really given any trouble.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fedora is garbage. imagine using an rpm distro in 2022 *and* beta testing red hat's commerical, insecure software for free (you can thank red hat for flops like systemd and polkit which have had many vulnerabilities lol).

  • @davebrowning9290
    @davebrowning9290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also started with Red Hat before they split it into Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Well I played around with a few distros before settling on RedHat. I switched to using Ubuntu for servers after that.

  • @AviCus-d5k
    @AviCus-d5k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, I started with Red hat 5.1 back in 98 and learned about Ubuntu at v9

  • @esphilee
    @esphilee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first attempt with Linux was SUSE, I failed.
    My first successful attempt with Linux was Mint. I have Mint installed in most of my Computers except a Raspberry Pi, which has Ubuntu.

  • @gadooze
    @gadooze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My old cheap laptop-I turned it into a server and installed OMV, a debian distro, on it.

  • @doublezerocool7624
    @doublezerocool7624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My personal server choice is Slackware Linux. An oldest maintain, highly stable and secure linux distribution.

  • @NetBandit70
    @NetBandit70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After the recent CentOS kerfuffle, I've moved to Debian (stable) exclusively.

  • @FlexibleToast
    @FlexibleToast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Red Hat is also a great choice for your homelab. You can get 16 free licenses with a developer account and it can you get some lucrative jobs. You also want to learn on RHEL in order to be better prepared for different Red Hat certifications. Getting an RHCSA or RHCE will definitely help you get that linux admin job you've always wanted.

  • @PCMagikHomeLab
    @PCMagikHomeLab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jesus, I love You and Your movies!! Great Job!! Im waiting for more vids, i watched many Your videos and learn from You :) THANKS FOR EVERYTHING

  • @itbook182
    @itbook182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome analysis, Jay! Thank you very much! What is your personal server- choice between Alama and Rocky? Looking forward to see you tutorial for Suse. Best, Asen

  • @sherakhela4044
    @sherakhela4044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please provide us more info regarding SUSE. Thanks

  • @thepiratepenguin4465
    @thepiratepenguin4465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It might sound like an odd choice, but I have found that POP OS work well on Treadrippers and by extension Epyc servers.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Soy fan de Debian, y usarla en un servidor también es genial. Pero el hecho de que las actualizaciones tarden tanto no es lo mas conveniente, si hablamos de equipos modernos.
    Creo que Rocky Linux o Alma Linux es la solución ya que te ofrecen lo mismo que Red Hat pero sin el alto costo.

  • @ZenoTasedro
    @ZenoTasedro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long time Linux nerd here, I was mostly curious what the noobs were learning these days.
    I think this video was pretty well made. It's nicely organized and accurate, provides good contextual anecdotes and feels very based on a pragmatic thinking instead of being based on opinion or preference. Keep up the good work!

  • @rickcontreras4943
    @rickcontreras4943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re the best. I have learned so much from you.

  • @saidneder41
    @saidneder41 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Jay!

  • @richardmeyer418
    @richardmeyer418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Jay - you might have mentioned Oracle Linux as well. I don't know much about it, but the UEK looks interesting.
    I'm also glad to hear that you are planning to give SUSE some love. I was a SuSE (check capitalization) bigot for many years and had only good things to say about it, until I slipped to the dark side while it was with Novell and Attach-mate. I've looked at it every now and again since then, but my tastes have changed - I still wish it well, though.

  • @ezequielpartida5846
    @ezequielpartida5846 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use mageia 9 on my servers and my desktops at home.. It works great!. They also release Mageia when it's ready around 2 years.

  • @penguinwrangler1012
    @penguinwrangler1012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have ran all sort of Linux servers. Pick the best tool for the job. If you are a professional you have to be able to determine the downside of each distribution and the upside and pick accordingly. Here lately though I have been moving to OpenSuSe servers more and more.

  • @williamnessanbaum7464
    @williamnessanbaum7464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IIRC, even Linus Torvalds cracked a joke about the Debian repositories being 100,000 years old..

  • @daleholden
    @daleholden ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about Fedora Server

  • @Andy-ee9ft
    @Andy-ee9ft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work, Jay !
    Keep it up!
    How about Intel's Clear Linux ?

    • @TheMadMagician87
      @TheMadMagician87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clear linux is great in many ways beyond just performance (which is what it get headlines for), and I would highlight it's stateless nature as one of it's best attributes for a server (it also enables a bunch of ancilliary bonuses like incremental binary updating etc). It's quick with Kernel updates too.
      Massive practical downsides:
      * Driver support (i'm basically being forced to abandon it as KVM host OS, as I can't get it to support the MLNX_OFED drivers needed to tune the InfiniBand NIC's, the kernel has inbox drivers that work, but the supporting Mellanox software/driver package cannot be built, because of......)
      * Bundles......not packages. In principle this doesn't sound too bad, as a bundle is just a heap of packages. It does your head in though, when as in my MLNX_OFED case, I was willing to adapt their install script for a different distro and resolve all the package dependencies....except you then can't get the individual packages, and trying to find which bundle (or if they are in a bundle) is a nightmare. It's alright for a few packages, but try doing it for 10's or 100's of package dependencies....
      I still think it represents the best, most forward thinking Linux server distro in a long time.....but it's hard to live with, and sadly I think that will be forcing me away from it :(

  • @jeffherdz
    @jeffherdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In the 15 years in I.T. Most companies ran either run Redhat or Centos. Ubuntu has never been a huge runner in the server world. One company that I worked for ran over 17,500 Centos Servers. But that is surly different since Dec 2021 has come and gone.
    IBM bought Redhat (I believe) for the fact that Redhat is a far better OS than AIX will ever be. And IBM was losing clientele left and right on AIX Servers and OS sales combined.
    IBM will be the death of Redhat (Centos). Like everything else those Bas***ds have touched and destroyed !!
    R.I.P. Centos.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      debian has always been superior to centos and other rpm crap distros.

    • @jeffherdz
      @jeffherdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ps5hasnogames55 Keep smoking whatever it is that your smoking. And stay in that fog.

    • @Slavolko
      @Slavolko ปีที่แล้ว

      You could be right. They're seemingly wanting to paywall their source code now. We'll see how this develops.

  • @SKYMEMiC
    @SKYMEMiC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to install CentOS on my home PC to refresh my knowledge until I found out that CentOS isn't what it used to be. So I had to choose between Alma and Rocky and Rocky won because the founder of CentOS brought it to life. Alma also seems to have more of a commercial background.

  • @mzs114
    @mzs114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Debian has backports, the server software is more updated, imo. So please stop this FUD.

  • @skug978
    @skug978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just recently I booted up a computer at home which I hadn't powered up for some time. It was running old release Debian 9 stretch. I made backups of the content of the system, just in case I ran into issues, and I began running a dist-upgrade. The dist-upgrade went well and now it's running Debian 10 (buster). I decided to do it again, and dist-upgrade to the latest stable Debian 11 (bullseye). During the upgrade, I managed to kick a power-plug or some such mistake and the computer was powered down while upgrading. Ick, nasty! Turning it back on, I started up the dist-upgrade again and it recovered, and completed, and now the computer is running latest stable version Debian 11. This is something else that Debian does well (compared to some other distros) - It is very good at handling the upgrade from an older distribution to next one in the chain.

  • @nixeverything
    @nixeverything ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk mire about fedora. And also some of the default security per distro regarding selinux/AppArmor etc.

  • @travisaugustine7264
    @travisaugustine7264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not commonly considered a server distribution but... Arch (yes yes I know not commonly used as a server let alone in the enterprise world) ... and also Oracle? Maybe include those two as honorable mentions?

  • @JohnDeaux
    @JohnDeaux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Technically it's free software so you can't charge anything for it" read the effing GPL. Free as in freesoftware, not as in free of charge!

  • @rahuldsouza1985
    @rahuldsouza1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about Slackware?

  • @Steamrick
    @Steamrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I had to decide which Linux distro I was going to use for my homeserver, I settled on the newest Ubuntu LTSR pretty quickly. One could even say thoughtlessly. Thanks for the breakdown of the alternatives, it was educative.
    edit: I remember now - the main reason for going Ubuntu was that the majority of howtos are written for Ubuntu

    • @christopherjackson2157
      @christopherjackson2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a pretty smart way to choose a distro for a home server ;)

  • @TheDillio187
    @TheDillio187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as far as Ubuntu...am I the only one that hates the NetPlan .yaml files and misses /etc/network/interfaces?

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You couldn't possibly be referring to netplan's half-assed, half-finished support for the features in what it's supposed replace, could you? 🤬 I'm ok with the yaml, but when you have to add override.conf to all of your /etc/.../interfaces, wtf?

    • @dan1el942
      @dan1el942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, no no no... NOPE. They say it has a purpose but I'm yet to know which one exactly, I mean, other than get in the middle and piss you off while trying to configure NIs in traditional manners, at least. Canonical has reinvented the wheel in such bothersome ways (considering the alternatives to their solutions) that it's amazing at this point.

    • @TheDillio187
      @TheDillio187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@d00dEEE glad I'm not the only one.

    • @TheDillio187
      @TheDillio187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've yet to see a valid purpose for doing this other than pissing everyone off. Now, instead of a simple config file change to modify an IP, you have to EXACTLY modify the .yaml file or you F the whole thing up. It's a total s@$t show.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dan1el942 canonical has severe "not invented here" syndrome.

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My VPS runs Ubuntu with the Xfce DE, but since it's the desktop version it comes with a bunch of programs that are not needed on a server. I am going to reinstall the OS but put Ubuntu Server on it instead then install the Xfce desktop and LAMP with tasksel. I also need a good email server on it too.

  • @rcdenis1
    @rcdenis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about Slackware as a server?

  • @marcosoliveira8731
    @marcosoliveira8731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool list. I´ll use Alma Linux after seeing this video.

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims ปีที่แล้ว

    Mental note to one day check out 👍 Alma Linux and Rocky Linux.
    Kindest regards.

  • @nevoyu
    @nevoyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Gentoo

  • @Mythologos
    @Mythologos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm using Linux Mint as a Lab to learn all this. I still haven't decided on a permanent OS.

  • @DarthDweeb
    @DarthDweeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a book called Master Ubuntu Server, so I feel I have no options. It's gotta be ubuntu server.

  • @Khemystt
    @Khemystt 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the SAME exact Link Sticker in the EXACT same spot lol

  • @Ma1ne2
    @Ma1ne2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do something about alpine Linux? I was curious to learn about it, specially on a server context and how it compares. As far as I understand, it for example switched out the classic Gnu tools for others and tries to do some things differently. Would be curious to hear you talk about it.

  • @Digital0.0
    @Digital0.0 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Had to watch this twice i switch distros like crazy I read a comment someone saying "I use ARch and CRUX for my server and that's all I need" couldn't find a lot on the topic of crux for server side other then its small footprint, btw what is that cool song at the end weird, I like it though.

  • @chinmaykunkikar
    @chinmaykunkikar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this in the midst of the Red Hat fiasco. Sadly such content has become unrelatable.

  • @gigabit9823
    @gigabit9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unbutu Server is my choice. Rock solid.

  • @irbaboon1979
    @irbaboon1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good content - finally something focused on servers and none of this desktop stuff.
    Your points are all valid and I hope they will help someone who needs to decide; I’m working for a company and with CentOS change of direction had to advise on the future/way forward for our systems (broadcasting, so this needs to run stable and for a very long time with similar support). Ultimately I ended up on Ubuntu LTS as we didn’t have any software incompatibilities with our vendors, it offered an optional support, and the hardware enablement and server certification also helped, etc so it was the best fit for our use case.
    Being a forced CentOS refugee anything redhat based caused a bad taste in my mouth at the time…still, I might give rocky/alma a try at some point.

    • @lepidoptera9337
      @lepidoptera9337 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it has to run constantly, then Windows and OS X are far better than Linux. What's the problem with either? Are you trying to save a few hundred bucks only to have years and years of problems as a consequence????

    • @irbaboon1979
      @irbaboon1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lepidoptera9337 my vendors ultimately decide which platform their stuff runs on and what they support... My task is to ensure they can do their job and we don't end up voiding their several 100k support nonsense requirements...

    • @lepidoptera9337
      @lepidoptera9337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@irbaboon1979 True, even the stupid customer is king. ;-)

    • @irbaboon1979
      @irbaboon1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lepidoptera9337 get paid to advise and execute; maintenance and support is the bonus and jobsecurity for years to come against good rates :)

    • @lepidoptera9337
      @lepidoptera9337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@irbaboon1979 True.

  • @RaresCelTare
    @RaresCelTare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unpopular opinion: Arch for the server space as well

  • @qlum
    @qlum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally there are just two distro's I use on servers.
    Debian stable for environments with little change under the hood.
    Arch for development / when having regular kernel upgrades are not a big deal Arch. Arch being well documented and not being very opinionated really does have it's place on servers.
    As for why Debian, actually being able to upgrade to new Debian stable versions really does help. Ubuntu in that regard is just unreliable.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arch is owned by systemd and SJWs. Wtf you on about "not opinionated" lmaooo

  • @thebahrimedia
    @thebahrimedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question : what does "entreprise" os mean? What kind of extra features does it offer? Or is it just marketing?

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      99% is just marketing, it's basically a company saying "we'll support this for 10 years". (and then CentOS Linux, which stands for Community ENTERPRISE OS got discontinued way before its projected end of life thanks to IBM buying Red hat and wanting everyone to pay for RHEL lol)

    • @TheSuperBoyProject
      @TheSuperBoyProject ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine came with a free gram of cocaine

    • @thebahrimedia
      @thebahrimedia ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like I am up to something since no one seems to be able to respond

  • @MV-qd3dv
    @MV-qd3dv ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately, Ubuntu still ships with an outdated kernel so you will still probably experience issues if you try to install that on new hardware

  • @ericespino7361
    @ericespino7361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. What about Oracle Linux (full, regular boot, uek boot)?

  • @jaromanda
    @jaromanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    regarding old packages in Debian stable ... there is backports - e.g. bullseye-backports - lots of very much up to date packages

  • @whothefoxcares
    @whothefoxcares 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *FreeBSD is a very secure* distro to run on servers.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      freeBSD isn't linux, and the BSDs are irrelevant and archaic in 2022. no one uses them except corporations who only like BSD because the licence lets them steal free software without giving back to the community.

  • @adibbins
    @adibbins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you considered Oracle Enterprise Linux? My understanding is it's another rebrand of RH, but Oracle always stated they were quicker and more re-active to bug fixing than RH

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its not just a rebrand of RH if they modify it any more than simply swapping the trademarked logos.

  • @entelin
    @entelin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would recommend Alpine Linux for servers. Particularly for VM's and containers, but I have it on the metal of a couple servers as well. It's a server focused distro, it has some gui packages, but that's fairly limited. It has some extra security patches for the kernel, it's package manager is fast and easy, and it can be quite small. I have a few handfuls of wireguard servers out there, which are VM's that just run wireguard, they are 100MB each. Otherwise, RHEL, Rocky. Alpine supports ZFS, however RHEL does not unfortunately. Ubuntu is too much of a bloated mess now to consider using as a server imo. I've tried to use debian stable from time to time but it's always so out of date that I pretty much gave up on it.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      alpine is not suitable for production and is deliberately incompatible with a lot of apps thanks to using that stupid musl c library no one else uses

    • @entelin
      @entelin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ps5hasnogames55 In what way would you consider alpine "not suitable for production?". I'm not sure what your definition of "a lof of apps" is, I'm sure there are some, in the context of a server though not many.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@entelin avant garde indie weirdo distros like alpine (and others like void etc) have zero support and tiny communities that can't be relied on. i would never trust a production server on something that can't be guaranteed to be bulletproof like debian is.

    • @entelin
      @entelin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ps5hasnogames55 Alpine is pretty popular as a base for docker images actually. As for support, you don't have that with debian either. And if you are talking about "community support" then it also doesn't matter because when you are talking about servers linux is linux anyway, almost all knowledge is transferable between distros. I don't think Alpine is as obscure as you seem to think it is. It's just non existent on the desktop, so it gets less visibility.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@entelin running alpine is a container is not the same as running it on your server i.e. being the main OS.

  • @linuxpenguins3214
    @linuxpenguins3214 ปีที่แล้ว

    From an SAN point of view, there seems to be more software available for RPM. I have servers running both Alma & Rock ( don't put all your eggs in one basket), I'm not sure if why but Alma seems to run better on older on hardware.

  • @seva4241
    @seva4241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had nothing but trouble with ubuntu server. Wifi doesn't work, finally fix that and then realize my internet speed is running at maybe 1/10th of what it should be. it was just one thing after another.

  • @rudysal1429
    @rudysal1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you migrate over a server from one distro to another. Let's say I have ubuntu and have new hardware and want to install rocky or something and migrate all the configurations or whatever

  • @smith4591
    @smith4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically if you are a company and have money. Go with RHEL. Every others go with Ubuntu Server.

  • @norseironworks
    @norseironworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to run several different distroes like knoppix, clarkconnect and netmax in adition to red hat. But these are gone now ( except red hat that is gone for the common man )

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fedora is red hat for the common man. not that you should use it since you're really just being red hat's guinea pigs and doing their work for them for free.

    • @TheDillio187
      @TheDillio187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to love Knoppix.

  • @tl1897
    @tl1897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use ubuntu non LTS on my 4 local servers. I do release upgrades every few months, and hope for the best. So far, no installation crashed.
    But i won`t recomend that for production.

  • @PixelFerret
    @PixelFerret 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe this is a bit out there but, why did you not mentioned AWS Linux ( for cloud servers )?

  • @DaveSomething
    @DaveSomething 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Ubuntu Server... I guess it's in my comfort zone.

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    07:45 it's pronounced, "PLEH-thir-uh"...(vice, pleh-THOR-uh) :) (Now, on to solving election integrity!) And,..... great video!!!!!!!!!

  • @usmclashbrook8743
    @usmclashbrook8743 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am self teaching myself through videos like yours and other sources. I need a free version to set up a home lab. With recent changes it seems like Debian stable and Ubuntu server are only ones I should be looking at? Debian 12 just released but Ubuntu is the popular one. Other than release cycle and support. What’s the difference

  • @Paul-d4l
    @Paul-d4l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use ubuntu server os for my vms

  • @CyberCommercialBroadcasting
    @CyberCommercialBroadcasting ปีที่แล้ว

    At 19:04 the caption on the chapter would be SUSE not the typo SASA right?

  • @RonVichar
    @RonVichar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it safe / stable to go with an arch based server distro? Not a fan of Ubuntu Server anymore so maybe debian is my new home.

    • @lottie4588
      @lottie4588 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arch runs their servers on arch. It's possible, but I imo there aren't really any benefits and it carries a lot of risk. I love arch and have been using it exclusively on my desktops and laptops for years. I like having up to date software and the convenience of the AUR and how easy it is to create PKGBUILDs when i need to. For the server deployments I manage I use Debian Stable, because it's stable. When my own computer breaks it inconveniences me for an hour while i fix it. If a server breaks it incoveniences everybody who relies on it.

  • @Badolasantosh
    @Badolasantosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you .Please make videos on SUSU linux

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the command line program tasksel to show a list of programs to install? It works without a GUI.