Proving Ashe Support is BROKEN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- LOOK HOW BROKEN IT IS.
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Recap doing the edit with Rat trying to figure out the title name with all his misspeaking was utterly hilarious.
agreed great editing lmao
lol I thought it was actually rat
Fucking choked on my food while watching, recap need to put a warning for shit this funny
What runes is he running?
his voice is one of the most annoying thing i have ever encountered :D
That editing with writing the title as he was trying to say it made me laugh
nice
isnt edit xd. that's the funny thing
Ashe W:
“Fire an arc of 9 arrows dealing 94 physical damage and drain any champion hit by 7 mental points, stacks infinitely”
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As an ap shaco player, I can attest to the viability of the "so annoying it's good" strategy
respectable
respectable
Destroying the enemy’s mental is half the battle.
respectable
Everytime i play Shaco AP and people step on a box i am like " Dude that did 0 dmg but holy fuck its so funny is worth it"
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He did indeed prove the fact of Ashe Support being BROKEN
ARAM tactics ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s way more broken on wild rift cuz you can control Ashe R there
Rat's Ashe:
A-A-A
annoying 10/10 ~ assistance 10/10 ~ ACCURACY on Arrow 1/10
i love how he was flaming the naut hooks but missed point blank arrows like no other 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For anyone who is curious, if you proc a blasting plant and an enemy fiora parries the blasting plant then it'll stun you, but if the fiora's teammate procs it, it will not stun instead, weird interaction but good to know for the random scenarios it may pop up like this game for example
not really weird as you cant parry ally things. same with bard ult your/enemy.
also you can stun parry from dragon knockback, baron knock up and herald charge on turret
Because the game basically works in a way where whoever is using the blastcone is causing the knock up.
Same reason why Yasuo can ult someone if his teammate causes them to get knocked up with a blastcone
The durability patch is actually kinda good. There are team fights now and not team one-shots. Also Ashe supp is broken.
AGREE. It feels like old league, so much outplayability and actual fun gameplay. Assassins aren't even bad, you just have to hit more than one ability now lol.
I was expecting to watch the next game he plays after this (He is against the same Wen and she kinda run it down because meeting rat's ashe support again)
sorry but why is liandrys better than mandate? I played a bit of ashe support too but is liandrys better because it gives more mana for manamune and cdr?
Mandate is garbage compared to what it used to do. It was good like 2 years ago. I love all the ashes that build mandate in ARAM thinking its still good when it's just a free win for my team. If you have 3 adcs mandate isn't bad at all in ARAM, but since SR teams don't roll 3 adcs liandries has a lot better contribution in the damage charts overall.
A single adc on a team rolling mandate kinda screws their team, but mandate can be super good when you have one or 2 other dedicated adc for dmg. Basically it should never show up on an ashe in summoners rift unless you found a time portal to 2 years ago. It's more useful on champs like trundle with glacial augment.
mandate needs your teammates to attack it to do the bonus damage, unless you have 3 long range pokes you should never get mandate when you can reapply liandries every 2 seconds, plus sitting on orb and basically enemy team is perma having grevious wounds
BUT HOW EARLY ARE WE
Durability patch gave massive boost to my 2 favourite picks - bruiser Thresh top and AP Ashe mid.
Also people started discovering unusual builds, so people dodge or int much less when they encounter my "tactics".
Glad to see more people accept poking Ashe supremacy.
Xayah's nickname means "Backpack" in french
9:47 yeah he is running away, only to kill your teammate tho
the editing on the title was soooo funny nice recap !
The preview subtitles started as. Ashley's kinda stupid cause Ashley's broken... Thought I was being attacked 🥺
lol
It's just ARAM Ashe in Rift. You can go Mandate if you're premade or have a teammate who can reliably proc it. Liandry's if you're just gonna do your own thing, most consistent dmg. And Moonstone + Demonic if your team comp gets poked (Demonic burn procs Moonstone a second time iirc).
And Chempunk Chainsword is cheap, gives healing reduction and haste so it's good on that build as well. So annoying to play against and amazing low-effort playstyle.
basically a ranged singed
@@yct12 Actually good comparison
What was the runes? Comet manaflle transendence scorch? Second tree?
Wouldn't duskblade be better since it has same cdr mythic passive and gives AD for more W damage?
The burn damage from Liandrys is great, plus the extra mana also does wonders to your Muramana damage.
I've played it before as well it's not only annoying to enemy but it's just really fun to play the oy thing is that enemy might focus on u 💀
That's part of why it's good tbh. If Fiora is ulting the Ashe support the game is kind of over already.
That title editing was fucking hilarious lmao
Poke ashe is acknowledged in aram as not the most broken but definitely one of the most annoying builds, so yeah that Kayle must have been overjoyed to see rat pull it out lmfao
Yep poke ashe and AP Kaisa are the worst to play against in aram
Poke ashe /poke kaisa are fine but definitelly not op, but ofc vs low elo players its really effective + if u abuse exhaust u are anoying AF,,, worst thing in whole aram are Exhaust abusers,, cause exhaust is only real OP and unfair unbalanced thing in whole aram,, poke in aram is strong in general cause most players are low elo player who eat dmg for dinner 24/7 they have 0 position skill 0 counter build, 0 sustain (btw refill pot is my favourite item in whole aram and i dont see many people use that 150g infinite sustain whole game where sustain is really important,, it allows you get hit 2 or 3x early game and 1 time lategame which is still huge sustain, i know many aram tricks and tactics how to win most games that only few high elo ARAMers know,,, and the ones who knows them are players who know them from me since i figure out them all by myself
but no ones talking about how that xayah was absolutely in the zone
She was beasting, really fun to see actually. Did some nasty ults
@@immanuelrundel6643 she flashed over wall to engage without ult, what a gigachad
Dude I'm an Ashe main STOP I don't want her nerfed or popular LOL
popularity is the gutting of champions innit. rip my sona, was the most fun i had in this game since pre-reworked xerath.
i remember when they nerfed karma as well, and the devs reasoned that it was simply because she was a too-popular default pick for support autofills and secondary-support players
@@Light-qi8ol trebuchet xerath was fun
@@noobgun12 old xerath was my first champion i played and main for like year before his rework
afterwards he just didnt have the same feeling and ended up droping him ...
@@porolinio what was his rework
even in the mobile version of the game she is still BROKEN but so underrated and also most of the time they just do her build wrong and every start of the game there is already flaming but they keep quite when I turn into the carry XD.
I also think I'm one of the first ones to try this and succeeding bcuz most ashe supports I've troll or go ad and inting, and never saw anyone in my matches that play her support like this.
Always thought Ashe support was broken glad to see you play it
the title edit is funny, i like it
My man is a sharpshooter always exactly between two enemies!
if you want to understand this patch. all bruiser that did dmg on HP% ( lillia, shivana , gwen etc. ) were buffed, all ADC , assassins , tank were nerfed. apart from kaisa and kogmaw that remained unchanged by the modify , thx to theyr dmg on HP% , but they still lost some DPS. all items were nerfed apart from items that deal HP% dmg .
this patch removed the oneshot, but made bruiser(that deal % HP dmg ) absolute beast , and nerfed all ADC And assassins without HP% dmg to the ground..
Wait, so is ad bruiser shyvana now maybe a thing? I always liked her, but she just felt weak in recent patches
@@immanuelrundel6643 What build do you mean ? because atm the best one is frost guantlet, demonic embrace , cosmic drive, gargoile stoneplate , and other items tanky depending on the enemy.
@@immanuelrundel6643 AP bruiser mainly. ( thats the part that deal %hp as dmg)
@@unknow11712 yeah, I mainly played her AP. Gets Nashors tooth, then the omnivamp item, and after Rabadons. You're very strong late, but you need to get to that point. Sometimes I just fooled around in ranked, and tried Ad with Divine Sunderer into Sterags (or Maw) and then into some tank item. But this was not it either. I will try your build, looks interesting. And tbh, in my elo everything kinda works 😅
I've been playing ashe support for the last 4 months and have a 70% wr through plat to diamond. People just dont know what to do against it.
@@florareinhold5876 holy shit cope seethe mald
@@florareinhold5876 This guy probably just got bullied by ashe supp :D
Tyler1's ashe support on steroids = RATIRL's ashe support
similar vibe to rylai's brand (where brand passive dot procs slows)
ty rat for doing this. i always got flamed going liandry ashe since myth item update dx
Why he maxing E over Q ?
Crazy how meta is been creating in ARAM. Ashe AP support, Kaisa AP, Varus hybrid,MF hybrid ect
Still most people dont know how to play aram
What not build imperial mandate? Helps out your team more with damage yea? and gives ap per legendary item.
Hard deja vu of Rat trying to prove that support Ahri was broken before dying like 15 times.
ahri supp is broken same as lb aslong you dont face peel supp its pretty strong didnt played ahri supp alot but everytime i did i went like 10 3 in smurf q
@@anime6161 ahri support sure she basically does a similar job to a hook support .lb sup is hot ass unless your way better than the enemy team a delayed root is not enough utility to justify the no dmg you'll bring as a no farm underleved leblanc
what are some other choices for item 4 and 5? I think Seryldas is decent cuz you just perma slow them and gives CD but its also expensive af :P
slows don't stack it's completly useless you already have a stronger one on passive. Just keep stacking cdr and utility on your items is what i'm thinking maybe cleaver 30 haste and you give extra utility to your W shredding armor for the team anathema cdr and to live and cc vs a particularly problematic enemy zhonya's, grievous wounds wardstone also a good option for last item you'll get crazy amount of cdr for 1.1k gold and keep a slot for pinks
I play this build aswell, but I kinda prefer the runes (or item?) that shoots freezing rays, and building Ashe tank, ap and ad arent so important, as its cdr doing the job most of the time, hourglass is pretty nice too
that sounds so incredibly useless and team dependent
Yeah that's why you build liandry's, for cdr and for max dps (from item passive)
building tank isnt any better since she stays in the backline all the time
Guys don't get baited, you should never build ap on ashe, it's the most useless and dumbest thing ever, Ashe biggest strength is her W, with Mandate (2500 gold) and Manamune (2900 gold) is the most broken combination that's a 5100 gold huge power spike, it costs way less gold than the ap variant and you do way more damage, in some occasions depending on the comp Shurelya's can be broken but never go ap on Ashe pls 😂Doing 100 more damage on ult and having 10 more ability haste is not worth it at all
You realize he’s only build the mythic ap right?
@@symphonyhadnt7602 that's a 3200 gold mythic, 700 more gold than mandate which can be invested on 2 long swords (20 ad) and with the adaptive runes you're losing 9 more ad for a longer period of time, so in total you end up losing 29 ad knowing that W has a 100% bonus ad scaling and also you literally do more damage with Mandate since it does around 60 dmg when you hit W + 120 dmg when an ally hits the same target plus it gives you both 20% movement speed, Liandry's is the worst thing you can build on Ashe
@@ceronibalsamar5352 ok? And you are completely forgetting the fact that liandrys apply a burn for 4 seconds, which in turn apply “PERMANENT” grievous wounds (because he bought the 800g ap orb = 7 seconds of grievous wound total, every W)
which reduces not only healing but also health regeneration, which can negate a lot of health over time (any bruiser toplane has a lot of HP regen), it for sure does not show up on damage meters but its still denied health so = damage
Its not about doing more dps because ashe is not a DPS carry, it’s about being a control damage support that slows/stun and deny healing from the enemy primarily
Ofc you can still argue how effective a 30% healing reduction is but imo it’s still way more effective at dealing valuable damage, damage that actually matters, I play enchanters quiet a bit and champions that can apply LONG durations of grievous wounds are detrimental against you, brand being the biggest bully with 11 seconds long grievous wound after he buys demonic embrace. It fucks up your healing so much.
its an ap mythic that does % hp damage over 4 seconds when ashe's w is on 2s cd which provides insane value especially with the durability patch which encourages longer fights and tankier builds, mandate is fucking useless because it only works when you hit enemy+your team hits enemy after and you do absolutely fucking 0 when you're poking alone, maybe if you read items more and tested consistency you would make it out of silver but ok ig
imagine you yourself quoting the part where 'when an ally hits the same target' and you still do not see how dogshit that mechanic is in handicapping yourself.
League Recap nice job on the beginning part where he was trying to formulate a title.
Really well done my man 😂
gonna try this today 😎
i actually play ashe supp with this build but in wild rift
Lyrics 8:25:
"Fly me to the moonnn.
Nndd uhh the starrs
Uuwaa duh woo
Laaah me to the moon..."
Rip Pyke this Patch.
0:38 funny, laughed. ty mr recap
Been playing ashe on support for the last 2 years lol, back when you got ULT cdr on cloud drake I got my R cool down to around 24s.
love that clip of the title! good job editor
How smurf was that Xayah tho
Rat is right it is broken, it annoyed so much that I was permabanning ashe for 2 weeks
0:50 lol already a banger
Thx for the 0/12 Ash support smurf in my team.
00:30 that puts a smile on my face
this was before 12.10 patch no?
Hellfire build is Liandry, Umbral, , Manamune, Cleaver, Wardstone or Demonic Embrace
my friend does this in high elo but he plays ap twitch and his supp ash played imperial mandate and your w procts imperial so easily
And now we watch it.
While I agree that Mandate is worse than Liandrys, you have to consider having more damage for a while because you complete it 700g earlier, it works well with other long ranged champs and you have the same cdr until you complete manamune with Liandrys. Imo there are games where you can get Mandate but probably have to test around a lot.
i'm wondering if it's not better to just get manamune first so you keep adaptive ad. the component feel awful to build early with only arrow as your ap scaling when you go lyandries but then you delay the mythic passive by a lot
the edit on the title felt like a tobiasfate editor joke
Did T1 not first play this a month or two ago?
COPIUM 9:09 Xayoo invented AP Ashe, not El Rato
none of them invented it, it has always been used forever. Invented by Ashe mains who wanted to try support
@@NotADoctor by "invented" I meant "made popular" and xayoo played it back in 2017 if im correct
Its actually true, if you know how to play it, its absolutely broken. Expecially in late game
What runes is he running?
what is his secondary tree?
this xayah is a the real GIGACHAD XD
i wouldn't really call that broken...
BUT HOW ANNOYING IS IT TO PLAY AGAINST JESUS CHRIST
If enemy have iron will and fight through the annoying ashe its easy, if they tilt its gg
oh dear no wonder i had an 0/15 ashe support build liandrys first timing in my ranked game :(
That Xayah was pretty clean lol
El rato back once again
Okayyyy editor durability patch looking quite balanced
had to play twice vs ashe. her arrow cd is unreal and she is really damn fuckin annoying. helping her team disengaging. its not insane but its pissing me off
that beginning was hilarious
I have been playing ashe supp since 6 months but Ill give rat this one.
hah, i unironically play ashe supp, not as goto pick, but i do love her there ;p
i do go mandate>manamune>black cleaver tho
i had to check yesterday how rat looks like. youre really a good lookin mate ngl :DD gotta give u that
I thought this was a zwag video when I saw the thumbnail and video name pop up this morning.
rat getting upset that his adc, that he is supporting, did not take hook for him, is pretty funny
Miss fortune support next?
8:22 AYO?? 🎤🎵
Imagine Mr. Rato climbing all his way to chall with this pick
Hehe i play Xayah like that too
The flashing in part. Killing them too? Ehhh
As a fellow ashe supp player myself I've found best build is liandries manamune into supp warding item into tiamat. Ravenous is 4th item. Tons of cdr, healing and bonus poke
there is popular streamer named XAYO that invented ap ashe mid/supp with liandry's and ludens like 3 seasons ago
Yeah but 3 seasons ago like ....
he didnt "invent this" aram players have been running liandry ashe since before mythic items were even a thing
If u want some tips on ARAM how to win more games i can help
Ok I am no expert, and I don‘t want to backseat game you: but idk, horizon focus sounds perfect
2:32 what is he saying here?
"I invented" - literally 1/3 aram builds
Damn if only I played league again I'll play this build non stop
Nidhogg actually invented this build over a year ago, thought that's why you were playing it
Now we wait for the highnoon twitch video
I play a lot of Aram and what the Kayle said at the end of the game had me fucking dead imagen poke Ashe coming to SR to torture you from aram
If u want some tips on ARAM how to win more games i can help
@@samyhussein7083 I win most games but poke ash is still canse to play one but let’s play what’s ur IGN
its legit bruiser khaziks on supp
Why not go drakthar tho
League recap is precious
Yeah. One losing lane or not trolling enemy supp and it will surely work PepeLaugh
It looks so fun and looks actually brainless... I love it. Now it's my time to shine in ranked. Thanks for this forbidden jutsu that I can use to abuse for lp gains, Mr. Ratto
I agree its broken cuz its annoying to the point where ur enemy doesnt even want to leave the base
Why liandrys if you could just literally bought duskblade and manamune? XD