Given it's becoming an increasing problem, comments are going Approval only because apparently Arcane fans are crying foul about a positive review as if that makes sense
Point of disagreement about Mel in the first half. I red her heavy lifting in the relationship as manipulation. She's an ambitious woman who's smart enough to see that Jayce will change Piltover and possibly the world, and she's made sure so completely intertwine herself with him so that she'll be carried along with him in his rise to power. I feel like this is implied by her saying she's the lowest standing member of her house. She's someone who still has room to climb and gain power, and her being the only one to realize the possibilities of hextech portray her as smarter then most of the other council members.
From a story perspective it would be weird, if Vi and caitlyn actually had a sex scene, since they literally met each other like 2 days ago. People forget that Mel and Jayce knew each other for like 10 years
@Xbox One bull fking shit. why you reply when you ignore the cmt. even without the kiss, vi x cait alr feel rush for many. you ppl don't care about the writing of the story, only the representation, the sexuality you want, and the worse is when you ppl don't have it (yet) you assume thing to downgrade the show. if the show don't want to have vi x cait, they won't bother show these hint and it won't make arcane any worse.
not only that but Vi just saw her sister literally die... (she didnt know that Silco was gonna save her , she didnt even know if its possible ) so for me was already very weird how Vi didnt even shed a tear or show any concern.... she was in bed cuddling with her new girlfriend that she met 2 days ago...for me this is not how someone normal reacts to her sisters death ...and pssibly good friend aswell(Ekko cause she didnt know if neither of them made it out from this fight alive)
I do not think we have to worry about Jinx being main, big, bad villain. There are handful of characters that are connected to cities we are introduced in arcane that are much more shown as villains in league of legands universe. Besides Jinx is pretty much Riot game's kinda maskot. She was first to get music video, she was main character to intrpduce wild rift, and she was shown in very sympathetic way in arcane even in final episode. So I think Arcane will be pushing angle that Jinx needs to be captured to stop her from inflicting explosive chaos and get help.
@@Crazygamergal There is also Urgot or Twitch or Warwick or Blitzcrank and his creator. With so many options it would be odd if Jinx became main big bad villain. Even voice lines in league of legends , the lore and what I seen of legends of runterra suggests that they wouldn't take Jinx same path as Sylvanas.
@@Goldenevil91 Judging by the trailer, I think we're gonna get the Chembarons and Sevika as our main villains, alongside possibly Viktor. And we'll have Warwick as a wild card in the middle of it all.
I love the bit when Cait’s mom catches them in the room . It’s heavily implied that Cait has snuck people into her room before and that is both cute and hilarious.
I know everyone and their dog is excited for Piltover's Finest to be an official item in season 2, and I am definitely among those people, but I'm honestly most excited for Heimer and Ekko's unlikely-heroes-friendship. I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but they were my favorite non-Vi characters in the show, and I just wanna see the bestest boys become buddies.
I find myself thinking back to She-ra and wondering, why wasn't Catra and Adora's relationship like Vi and Powder's? If the writers of She-ra had done something similar to this, the show would have been so much better. Every one of those little moments between Vi and Catelyn takes weeks to make, no wonder they seem so well done. That 'You're hot, Cupcake' line was in the script from the first draft, the writers and animators clearly know what they want. The only real obstacle to their relationship will be Powder herself. The Season 2 preview makes it quite clear that Catelyn has every intention of hunting down Jinx and making her pay for the (probably) death of her mother, or die trying. Vi is going to have to make a choice between her past and her future. I can only hope it doesn't take another six years for season 2. (Sorry for formatting).
I didnt get that from Caitlyn's comment in the Season 2 trailer. I think that's her responding to Vi regretting going down there with her, probably saying she should have gone alone. I think this is all pointing towards SERIOUS Vi regret, and Caitlyn trying to talk her out of dealing with Jinx all by herself. I sense a death wish of some sort from Vi.
Imagine thinking reflecting the HARD REALITY of life is the bad thing about arcane.. believe it or not rich ppl can't solve all our problems.. infact privileged ppl thinking some neat tech &goodwill can solve "poor people's problems" is VERY problematic & paternalistic &leads to many different problems... Which this show somehow DID VERY well.
Honestly, everything about it is amazing. I love the unique blend of 2D and 3D graphics. I love the twists, everything is so mind-blowing that it’s hard to remember this is a video game adaptation.
I *think* that Jayce is intentionally infuriating. His main character trait other than the chiselled jaw seems to be that his deepest moral convictions are whatever the last person he talked to said to him. I don't think you get that by accident. Similarly, with Heimerdinger, his oblivious-to-real-suffering moralizing was clearly an intentional flaw, and buddying up with Ekko will surely develop him positively. But I am still just a bit hesitant to trust, because they also created an assistant for Viktor just so she could die to give him an emotional moment, which is pretty gross! Loved the show overall, though.
i am almost sure that Jynx won't be the main villain of the next season, but i can't elaborate without rysking spoiler or using LoL lore that is really similar but yet different
@@LilianOrchard well at this day in the main lore Cait and Vi are still chasing Jynx , thta keep doing random acts o f destruction and Zaun as a nation is a fact. Noxus was named many time in the last 3 episodes, a nation that respect only strength if they think you are weak they will invade you.
Season 2 comes out in November, hoping you do a reaction to that. Ambessa is DEFINITELY going to be a major character, and Sevika will likely play a major role as well. Not sure about Ekko, but if we're going by the game, he has a lot of growth to go through. And apparently Season 2 will focus on Vi and Caitlyn the way Season 1 focused on Vi and Jinx, so that's promising.
I never played a game of League of Legends and my friend has play a few. He was like let's watch it . After watching and I bid injoy it. Like it look beautiful and just made have all the feels.
Arcane is not officially cannon so things could play out different then the game lore over all but I can say with reasonably certainty jinx won't be "the main villain" because some of the characters have arc's that are not complete and they don't go the way you think I don't want to say more I don't want to spoil anything if you take anything away from what im rambling on about is things eventually get sorted out with just a bit more conflict. Anyway thank for your insight & enjoy your video
Hey, there's no automatic subtitles on this video. I don't exactly know why it doesn't appear on some videos, but I thought I could tell you, as most of your videos have them, and even if I'm not deaf, as a non-native speaker, I prefer watching with subtitles ^^
Yes yes yes!!!!! I was hoping you made a video about it, im happy. After you totally roasted my fav shows I feel like I can finally show you something good ;w; Not that the shows are mine but you know the drill.
@@LilianOrchard so? what's the point? does lol lore make out of w3 too? like is there a single thing that's look like they copy/inspire from it? i see alot of reviewer state they hate lol and still love arcane but your is next lv for sure.
How do you feel about how fast paced this show is? On one hand I really enjoy how it doesn't waste my time but on the other I just kind of wish it had more time to let some of its relashionships breathe? Giving Jinx and Ekko a scene on episodes 1-3 before they fight each other, or giving Sky (Viktor's assistant) like.... Any personality.
How'd you feel when the music would hit and just bring that extra bit if adrenaline to a scene? Best instances(imo) being the bridge and bar fight scenes.
my main worry for the future is the direction for the cast , there are more that 150 legends , and many where hinted trougth the first season, i just hope they dont add to many character , to be honest i don't think they will go chasing Jynx as the main focus for the second part , they keep mentioning a enemy from outside that was waiting for some waekness to attack , if loosing most of your ruler in attack isn't "weakness" i dont know what it is?
@@filiasnox1116 I think most hints for existing characters are just easter eggs for lore fanatics and won't play any big part in the coming seasons. There are exceptions of course (blitzcrank, warwick).
@@terrorsmash8090 but let be honest the only location named multiple time is Noxus and is still too soon for Blitzcrank , many thing need to happen to Viktor before , i still think that all the crows , that are seen many times trougth the series represent Swain spying on Piltover.
I wouldn't trust that much in Riot. They have always avoided showing explicitaly that some characters are LGBT, the most explicit was a gay couple in Varus' cinematic and story. But aside of the, you have Taliyah their first attempt for a trans woman that end with at least a new member of the female chatacters with a unique face and body. But their seccond attempt is Tyari, a trans woman that becomes a goddess. her story (Or his since all of it is when they still saw theirself as male) is about realising that her life being guided by the expectations of others wouldn't fulfill her. And even Vi and Catlyn have always being put together, having multiple hints of them being a couple, yet they never said anything explicit in the games. I would be honestly surprised if any of them explicitely calls the other girlfriend.
Diana and Leona are 100% confirmed to have been a Canon couple (check out the official short story "Rise With Me"), plus their ingame pride emote. Neeko is confirmed by the writers via twitter to be lesbian too, if her in-game voice lines didn't make that fairly obvious anyway.
I forgot about Neeko, but I meant about being explicitelly said. Not just confirming it outside of the official sources (The game itself and the universe page). There is Rell too who at least is equally vague with gals as she is with guys. And the same with Fiora who we just can assume that could be lesbian by the dialogs, but again nothing explicit. I Knew that there was the story of Leona and Diana but haven't read it nor seen any summary video about it. And to be fair, I also forgot of Nami and her poli relationship, which I don't remember if it was confirmed in LoR or Twitter. And I mean explicitelly saying that they are a couple, not just giving hints.
while i don't think this will happen, if they DO make Jinx the main evil bad guy, then that's gonna f*cking suck since it's another example of riot demonizing oppressed/discriminated people in their stories.
Biggest criticism I have is that the writing often takes shortcuts assuming you can fill in the blanks, so we get to see less of what we want to see - or see nothing at all, and get smacked in the face by a terrible trope.
It's mostly carried by A LOT of visual storytelling and subtle queues, which understandably not everyone will pick up on the first viewing. I do feel they took shortcuts because of time constraints, and leaned on the visual storytelling a bit more than they should have.
yup, they should treat their viewer like a retard like modern hollywood movie and tell everything out. expecting viewer to figure out on their own is a dick move.
@@normalguy5583 I think the main issue a lot of people have who watch this, is they are often avid anime watchers, and the two couldnt be more different forms of storytelling. Anime normally is full of long exposition, whereas Arcane is more of a "show dont tell" approach.
THEY TOOK THE MOST VIOLENT AND DANGEROUS GUN WIELDING SUPER VILLAIN IN ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN AND MADE HER A WOOBIE SAD GIRL WITH A TRAGIC BACKSTORY????? Mikaila you are going to be disappointed unless they completely abandon her ENTIRE GAME CHARACTERIZATION. She's a constantly laughing ordinance-obsessed death bringer with a higher bodycount than the Joker and a personal life-mission to humiliate Vi and Caitlyn.
@@LilianOrchard And a good way to antagonize fans of the game too. This game is huge and worldwide and you're analysis without this context is a core of some things you did not like imo. I also think that's why they kept it soft between cait and vi because same sexe scene are banned in some countries, notably china where the game is huuuge.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for just saying what the deal is in Silco and Jinx's relationship. Like I am so fricking tired of people trying to convince me he was a good dad while his emotional manipulation and projecting his own shit on her fucked her up for life. This guy gives off massive "narcistic parental figure" vibes and every single sceen with the two of them made me so damn uncomfortable (it's not a jab at the show btw, I think they quite well ilustrated the diffrences between good and bad parental figures). Like I do not know if Silco loves her as his daughter but even if he does this doesn't make him any less of a shitty parent who instead of providing his child with a support and help she clearly needs just made her into even more of emotional, psychotic mess and later had a gull to call that "perfect" when she was at her lowest.
jinx only show "emotional, psychotic mess" when their is something remind her of the past which silco is trying to help her get past (the drown scene with jinx)-> how is he trying to make her worse ? remember they are in Zaun, their are no asylum and you will get kill when you're weak, useless. you think why vi always try to get powder on every mission when she was so young? does vi bad too? silco have never blame jinx for her mistake, never say he dissapointed in her to the point everyone around him know that she is the problem, marcus say that he want to help him get rid of jinx. does this look like silco try to manipulation her into a weapon? i get that silco-hater will never see past the monster part of him to see his human, but don't say like you're right and everyone else is wrong.
@@normalguy5583 Sweetie, I love Silco and I love hating him even more. I think he is a great character and a briliant villain. But I am also tired of people excusing toxic parenting with shit like "but he still loved her" and "it's a though world, he just wanted her to be tough" because those are like 2 favourite ways of gaslighting by toxic parents. Good parent wants a child to grow past him. To no make the same mistakes that they made, to be better then them. Silco was molding Jinx exactly into his image, fuck the drowning scene was him renacting his trauma with her. His intentions may be "good" deep down- but Jinx doesn't need to be told everything is great with her because everything is not great. She is clearly tormented by trauma and guilt, and Silco cannot teach her how to healthly cope with those because he himself has no healthy coping mechanisms. Also the way he talked to Jinx about Vi, the way he molded and manipulated that narrative so that Jinx would feel like she has no one but him and no one to rely on but him- it's an abusive tactic. Jinx isn't emotional psychotic mess only in certain situations- she always is in certain situations. She is constantly bouncing off the walls and her parent told her that yup, this is normal and she needs to channel all those negative feelings into violence, and instead of providing some way to work through all those issuess he tells her the only way is to try to shut it all out. Beside, yup, Vi took Powdwr gor a heist- thing that was framed as a mistake on her part and was later told off by Vander for it. But she was a kid then. Again- I am not making a judgment about Silco's motivations because frankly, they do not matter. He can and probably really belived he was doing the very best and it still does not matter because you can hurt people even when caring a lot about them. And I think this series is wonderfully showcasing that. The truth is a lot of people will grow up with narcissit for a parent. He won't be Silco, but he may use a lot of manipulation tactics Silco used and disguise them as love. And I do not want people to think that if you love your parent and they say they love you, that excuses the shit they put you through.
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Given it's becoming an increasing problem, comments are going Approval only because apparently Arcane fans are crying foul about a positive review as if that makes sense
Point of disagreement about Mel in the first half. I red her heavy lifting in the relationship as manipulation. She's an ambitious woman who's smart enough to see that Jayce will change Piltover and possibly the world, and she's made sure so completely intertwine herself with him so that she'll be carried along with him in his rise to power.
I feel like this is implied by her saying she's the lowest standing member of her house. She's someone who still has room to climb and gain power, and her being the only one to realize the possibilities of hextech portray her as smarter then most of the other council members.
From a story perspective it would be weird, if Vi and caitlyn actually had a sex scene, since they literally met each other like 2 days ago. People forget that Mel and Jayce knew each other for like 10 years
@Xbox One bull fking shit. why you reply when you ignore the cmt. even without the kiss, vi x cait alr feel rush for many. you ppl don't care about the writing of the story, only the representation, the sexuality you want, and the worse is when you ppl don't have it (yet) you assume thing to downgrade the show. if the show don't want to have vi x cait, they won't bother show these hint and it won't make arcane any worse.
not only that but Vi just saw her sister literally die... (she didnt know that Silco was gonna save her , she didnt even know if its possible ) so for me was already very weird how Vi didnt even shed a tear or show any concern.... she was in bed cuddling with her new girlfriend that she met 2 days ago...for me this is not how someone normal reacts to her sisters death ...and pssibly good friend aswell(Ekko cause she didnt know if neither of them made it out from this fight alive)
@@HK-gm8peOH boy this soured like milk with second season
I do not think we have to worry about Jinx being main, big, bad villain. There are handful of characters that are connected to cities we are introduced in arcane that are much more shown as villains in league of legands universe. Besides Jinx is pretty much Riot game's kinda maskot. She was first to get music video, she was main character to intrpduce wild rift, and she was shown in very sympathetic way in arcane even in final episode. So I think Arcane will be pushing angle that Jinx needs to be captured to stop her from inflicting explosive chaos and get help.
Yeah they deffo gonna introduce Camille next season and she’s a great option for villain
@@Crazygamergal There is also Urgot or Twitch or Warwick or Blitzcrank and his creator. With so many options it would be odd if Jinx became main big bad villain. Even voice lines in league of legends , the lore and what I seen of legends of runterra suggests that they wouldn't take Jinx same path as Sylvanas.
@@Goldenevil91 Judging by the trailer, I think we're gonna get the Chembarons and Sevika as our main villains, alongside possibly Viktor. And we'll have Warwick as a wild card in the middle of it all.
As someone with (mild) schizophrenia, I don't think Jinx has it. She's having psychotic episodes, but something else's causing them.
I have bipolar with psychotic features and I have psychotic episodes aswell , doesnt have to be schizophrenia immediately
I love the bit when Cait’s mom catches them in the room . It’s heavily implied that Cait has snuck people into her room before and that is both cute and hilarious.
I know everyone and their dog is excited for Piltover's Finest to be an official item in season 2, and I am definitely among those people, but I'm honestly most excited for Heimer and Ekko's unlikely-heroes-friendship. I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but they were my favorite non-Vi characters in the show, and I just wanna see the bestest boys become buddies.
I love Arcane. I really like how well the characters are crafted, and the emotion is great
I find myself thinking back to She-ra and wondering, why wasn't Catra and Adora's relationship like Vi and Powder's? If the writers of She-ra had done something similar to this, the show would have been so much better. Every one of those little moments between Vi and Catelyn takes weeks to make, no wonder they seem so well done. That 'You're hot, Cupcake' line was in the script from the first draft, the writers and animators clearly know what they want. The only real obstacle to their relationship will be Powder herself. The Season 2 preview makes it quite clear that Catelyn has every intention of hunting down Jinx and making her pay for the (probably) death of her mother, or die trying. Vi is going to have to make a choice between her past and her future. I can only hope it doesn't take another six years for season 2. (Sorry for formatting).
I didnt get that from Caitlyn's comment in the Season 2 trailer. I think that's her responding to Vi regretting going down there with her, probably saying she should have gone alone. I think this is all pointing towards SERIOUS Vi regret, and Caitlyn trying to talk her out of dealing with Jinx all by herself. I sense a death wish of some sort from Vi.
Catradora wasn't like that because Noelle Stevenson LIKES slap slap kiss as a trope
Imagine thinking reflecting the HARD REALITY of life is the bad thing about arcane.. believe it or not rich ppl can't solve all our problems.. infact privileged ppl thinking some neat tech &goodwill can solve "poor people's problems" is VERY problematic & paternalistic &leads to many different problems... Which this show somehow DID VERY well.
Honestly, everything about it is amazing. I love the unique blend of 2D and 3D graphics. I love the twists, everything is so mind-blowing that it’s hard to remember this is a video game adaptation.
As someone with schizophrenia, this show is a masterpiece from start to finish and it displays what it's like living with it pretty fucking well.
Best show of the decade. Hands down. Deserves all the praise. Period
I *think* that Jayce is intentionally infuriating.
His main character trait other than the chiselled jaw seems to be that his deepest moral convictions are whatever the last person he talked to said to him. I don't think you get that by accident.
Similarly, with Heimerdinger, his oblivious-to-real-suffering moralizing was clearly an intentional flaw, and buddying up with Ekko will surely develop him positively.
But I am still just a bit hesitant to trust, because they also created an assistant for Viktor just so she could die to give him an emotional moment, which is pretty gross!
Loved the show overall, though.
Just call the undercity zaun
i am almost sure that Jynx won't be the main villain of the next season, but i can't elaborate without rysking spoiler or using LoL lore that is really similar but yet different
Spoilers are not a "risk." Spoil things, it doesn't matter.
@@LilianOrchard well at this day in the main lore Cait and Vi are still chasing Jynx , thta keep doing random acts o f destruction and Zaun as a nation is a fact.
Noxus was named many time in the last 3 episodes, a nation that respect only strength if they think you are weak they will invade you.
Thank you for making this
It is nice to hear someone with another perspective talk about this show
I hope there's at least one reference to the muscle momma showing up to "sample the local cuisine."
Man, I miss Mikalia's reviews! I hope she makes more content!
City made over Pilt river - Piltover ...
Season 2 comes out in November, hoping you do a reaction to that. Ambessa is DEFINITELY going to be a major character, and Sevika will likely play a major role as well. Not sure about Ekko, but if we're going by the game, he has a lot of growth to go through. And apparently Season 2 will focus on Vi and Caitlyn the way Season 1 focused on Vi and Jinx, so that's promising.
I never played a game of League of Legends and my friend has play a few. He was like let's watch it . After watching and I bid injoy it. Like it look beautiful and just made have all the feels.
Dont play it. not worth the addiction
Arcane is not officially cannon so things could play out different then the game lore over all but I can say with reasonably certainty jinx won't be "the main villain" because some of the characters have arc's that are not complete and they don't go the way you think I don't want to say more I don't want to spoil anything if you take anything away from what im rambling on about is things eventually get sorted out with just a bit more conflict.
Anyway thank for your insight & enjoy your video
Hey, there's no automatic subtitles on this video. I don't exactly know why it doesn't appear on some videos, but I thought I could tell you, as most of your videos have them, and even if I'm not deaf, as a non-native speaker, I prefer watching with subtitles ^^
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@@LilianOrchard Okay thanks ^^
GREAT "A Pirate is Free reference"! Favorite meme from 2000's.
I've seen this show in alot of videos and clips and I didnt like the clips but i gave it a try and I actually love it
Yes yes yes!!!!! I was hoping you made a video about it, im happy. After you totally roasted my fav shows I feel like I can finally show you something good ;w;
Not that the shows are mine but you know the drill.
Pretty sure WoW was not the first fantasy series to use the term "undercity"
No, but LoL was made out of the corpse of a Warcraft 3 custom map
@@LilianOrchard so? what's the point? does lol lore make out of w3 too? like is there a single thing that's look like they copy/inspire from it? i see alot of reviewer state they hate lol and still love arcane but your is next lv for sure.
"Prison sister" lol
Enemy carried the intro
btw this the crimelord (Silco) that the fandom defended...yikes
Feel free to ask me about anything I didn't cover in the video. Characters. Plot points. HMI on tumblr.
How do you feel about how fast paced this show is? On one hand I really enjoy how it doesn't waste my time but on the other I just kind of wish it had more time to let some of its relashionships breathe? Giving Jinx and Ekko a scene on episodes 1-3 before they fight each other, or giving Sky (Viktor's assistant) like.... Any personality.
How'd you feel when the music would hit and just bring that extra bit if adrenaline to a scene? Best instances(imo) being the bridge and bar fight scenes.
my main worry for the future is the direction for the cast , there are more that 150 legends , and many where hinted trougth the first season, i just hope they dont add to many character , to be honest i don't think they will go chasing Jynx as the main focus for the second part , they keep mentioning a enemy from outside that was waiting for some waekness to attack , if loosing most of your ruler in attack isn't "weakness" i dont know what it is?
@@filiasnox1116 I think most hints for existing characters are just easter eggs for lore fanatics and won't play any big part in the coming seasons. There are exceptions of course (blitzcrank, warwick).
@@terrorsmash8090 but let be honest the only location named multiple time is Noxus and is still too soon for Blitzcrank , many thing need to happen to Viktor before , i still think that all the crows , that are seen many times trougth the series represent Swain spying on Piltover.
The video is very good, and I’ll watch arcane for sure, but why was Ariana Grande in the part where you said gay baiting?
Someone with BPD told me that Jinx has BPD
I wouldn't trust that much in Riot. They have always avoided showing explicitaly that some characters are LGBT, the most explicit was a gay couple in Varus' cinematic and story.
But aside of the, you have Taliyah their first attempt for a trans woman that end with at least a new member of the female chatacters with a unique face and body.
But their seccond attempt is Tyari, a trans woman that becomes a goddess. her story (Or his since all of it is when they still saw theirself as male) is about realising that her life being guided by the expectations of others wouldn't fulfill her.
And even Vi and Catlyn have always being put together, having multiple hints of them being a couple, yet they never said anything explicit in the games.
I would be honestly surprised if any of them explicitely calls the other girlfriend.
Diana and Leona are 100% confirmed to have been a Canon couple (check out the official short story "Rise With Me"), plus their ingame pride emote. Neeko is confirmed by the writers via twitter to be lesbian too, if her in-game voice lines didn't make that fairly obvious anyway.
I forgot about Neeko, but I meant about being explicitelly said. Not just confirming it outside of the official sources (The game itself and the universe page). There is Rell too who at least is equally vague with gals as she is with guys. And the same with Fiora who we just can assume that could be lesbian by the dialogs, but again nothing explicit.
I Knew that there was the story of Leona and Diana but haven't read it nor seen any summary video about it.
And to be fair, I also forgot of Nami and her poli relationship, which I don't remember if it was confirmed in LoR or Twitter. And I mean explicitelly saying that they are a couple, not just giving hints.
Did Powder not DIE at the end?? It looked like she just got evaporated by firing that weapon of hers!! :(
"Powder" died a metaphorical death, but Jinx is fine. That Rocket Launcher has been an iconic part of her design from day 1.
League of legends doesn't deserve this good an adaptation. It doesn't deserve the lore it has.
while i don't think this will happen, if they DO make Jinx the main evil bad guy, then that's gonna f*cking suck since it's another example of riot demonizing oppressed/discriminated people in their stories.
Hope we can get to see you and Lily discuss the CaitVi moments and maybe go a little deeper into making villains out of mentally ill people
Mikaila's the only one who watched this show. Lily has absolutely zero interest in it.
@@LilianOrchard well that's a bummer, sad to see Lily missing out on it
@@pablodonner5213 I am not missing out at all. There is nothing about Arcane that interests me and I would just end up hating it
@@LilianOrchard can't argue with that
Better than I thought but not as good as I hoped sounds like the best way to describe the series.
Biggest criticism I have is that the writing often takes shortcuts assuming you can fill in the blanks, so we get to see less of what we want to see - or see nothing at all, and get smacked in the face by a terrible trope.
It's mostly carried by A LOT of visual storytelling and subtle queues, which understandably not everyone will pick up on the first viewing. I do feel they took shortcuts because of time constraints, and leaned on the visual storytelling a bit more than they should have.
yup, they should treat their viewer like a retard like modern hollywood movie and tell everything out. expecting viewer to figure out on their own is a dick move.
@@normalguy5583 I think the main issue a lot of people have who watch this, is they are often avid anime watchers, and the two couldnt be more different forms of storytelling. Anime normally is full of long exposition, whereas Arcane is more of a "show dont tell" approach.
THEY TOOK THE MOST VIOLENT AND DANGEROUS GUN WIELDING SUPER VILLAIN IN ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN AND MADE HER A WOOBIE SAD GIRL WITH A TRAGIC BACKSTORY?????
Mikaila you are going to be disappointed unless they completely abandon her ENTIRE GAME CHARACTERIZATION. She's a constantly laughing ordinance-obsessed death bringer with a higher bodycount than the Joker and a personal life-mission to humiliate Vi and Caitlyn.
The game characterizations are one note, tropey and simplistic. Throwing them away when you're making a drama is a good idea.
@@LilianOrchard And a good way to antagonize fans of the game too. This game is huge and worldwide and you're analysis without this context is a core of some things you did not like imo. I also think that's why they kept it soft between cait and vi because same sexe scene are banned in some countries, notably china where the game is huuuge.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for just saying what the deal is in Silco and Jinx's relationship.
Like I am so fricking tired of people trying to convince me he was a good dad while his emotional manipulation and projecting his own shit on her fucked her up for life. This guy gives off massive "narcistic parental figure" vibes and every single sceen with the two of them made me so damn uncomfortable (it's not a jab at the show btw, I think they quite well ilustrated the diffrences between good and bad parental figures). Like I do not know if Silco loves her as his daughter but even if he does this doesn't make him any less of a shitty parent who instead of providing his child with a support and help she clearly needs just made her into even more of emotional, psychotic mess and later had a gull to call that "perfect" when she was at her lowest.
jinx only show "emotional, psychotic mess" when their is something remind her of the past which silco is trying to help her get past (the drown scene with jinx)-> how is he trying to make her worse ? remember they are in Zaun, their are no asylum and you will get kill when you're weak, useless. you think why vi always try to get powder on every mission when she was so young? does vi bad too? silco have never blame jinx for her mistake, never say he dissapointed in her to the point everyone around him know that she is the problem, marcus say that he want to help him get rid of jinx. does this look like silco try to manipulation her into a weapon? i get that silco-hater will never see past the monster part of him to see his human, but don't say like you're right and everyone else is wrong.
@@normalguy5583 Sweetie, I love Silco and I love hating him even more. I think he is a great character and a briliant villain.
But I am also tired of people excusing toxic parenting with shit like "but he still loved her" and "it's a though world, he just wanted her to be tough" because those are like 2 favourite ways of gaslighting by toxic parents.
Good parent wants a child to grow past him. To no make the same mistakes that they made, to be better then them.
Silco was molding Jinx exactly into his image, fuck the drowning scene was him renacting his trauma with her. His intentions may be "good" deep down- but Jinx doesn't need to be told everything is great with her because everything is not great. She is clearly tormented by trauma and guilt, and Silco cannot teach her how to healthly cope with those because he himself has no healthy coping mechanisms. Also the way he talked to Jinx about Vi, the way he molded and manipulated that narrative so that Jinx would feel like she has no one but him and no one to rely on but him- it's an abusive tactic.
Jinx isn't emotional psychotic mess only in certain situations- she always is in certain situations. She is constantly bouncing off the walls and her parent told her that yup, this is normal and she needs to channel all those negative feelings into violence, and instead of providing some way to work through all those issuess he tells her the only way is to try to shut it all out.
Beside, yup, Vi took Powdwr gor a heist- thing that was framed as a mistake on her part and was later told off by Vander for it. But she was a kid then.
Again- I am not making a judgment about Silco's motivations because frankly, they do not matter. He can and probably really belived he was doing the very best and it still does not matter because you can hurt people even when caring a lot about them. And I think this series is wonderfully showcasing that.
The truth is a lot of people will grow up with narcissit for a parent. He won't be Silco, but he may use a lot of manipulation tactics Silco used and disguise them as love. And I do not want people to think that if you love your parent and they say they love you, that excuses the shit they put you through.