FN CAL: Short-Lived Predecessor to the FNC
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The CAL (Carabine Automatique Leger; Light Automatic Carbine) was FN's first attempt to produce a 5.56mm rifle as a counterpart to the 7.62mm FAL. While light and handy, the CAL was a relatively complex and expensive design, and failed to garner many sales. About 12,000 were made in total before FN pulled the gun in favor of the FN FNC, which would prove to be much more successful.
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🎵The bolt is connected to the... Cam pin!
The cam pin's connected to the... Firing pin!
The firing pin's connected to the... Cross pin!🎵
Brandon W. ....and the cross pin has rolled away. Another advantage to the AR-15 cotter pin is that it does not roll.
Dem pins, Dem pins gonna...roll away, Dem pins, Dem pins gonna...roll away, Dem pins, Dem pins gonna...roll away all the way to the floor
The red thing's connected to my wristwatch....uh-oh......
Now hear the word of the Gun Lord.
Im signing this in Dr Nick's voice.....
What surprised me is why someone didn't just scale down the FAL. You would think they would have wanted to make a selling point of the carbine that it was a known system of excellent service with the added perks of lower weight and all. Why they felt compelled to make this new bolt system that did everything to complicate the process instead of simplifying it is fascinating.
Iirc, on the FNC video Ian mentioned that the FAL uses a roller (I don't honestly remember which part has rollers on it) and that it makes it hard to downsize that particular part for using 5.56.
I think Brazil did scale down the FAL. They switched to a rotating bolt though. IMBEL MD-97 and IA2
There’s also this video Ian made … th-cam.com/video/IM136ze48_Y/w-d-xo.html
Actually, the IMBEL MD series came first
Now we want a video on the Swedish AK5c!
*please
*we'd like..
Snälla vapen-jesus, ge oss din predikan på AK5-C!
dear weapon gods in weapon heaven please bring the swedish ak5c to the weapon jesus
Sir Gun Jesus, if it would not in any way inconvenience you, we the people of the gun world who are not worthy of such mechanical wonders, would be most pleased if you were to present to us a most sought after presentation of the Swedish AK5-C.
Father in law is a soldier in the Belgian military. They had this one for a few months before they just gave em back their old bolt actions before switching to the FNC. Still used today!
Hmm...
This looks like an FAL and a Dawewoo K1 had a child...
And that child was raised by the AR-15 uncle...
True
Tis a very shiny gun
@@dragonstormdipro1013 Upotte!!!
And then emigrated to sweden of all places
This is..... somehow really accurate idk how though... weird
"The special thing about it is the fire control group"
*doesn't show the fire control group*
Ian I am disappoint
He do be disappoint
Heard a story (from T. Mark Graham) of a guy who bought a CAL, yes, a CAL at a gunshow for $1200. The seller thought it was just a FAL in 223. There are a few semi CALs here in the US.
I really like the FNC and it is cool to see the CAL. It is sort of like a lost brother to the FAL and FNC but I am sure it is not any less fun than the other two. I like the other beauty the G3 too and it's 5.56 brothers (or 9mm, looking at the MP5). Then again I could go on with the SIGs and other cool stuff. Thank you Ian!
I used to have an FNC w/ fixed stock. It was kinda near, but not really as good all the way around as the ar15....
I can kinda see why they didn't do so well.....
@@cs-rj8ru what do you mean the FNC didn’t do well? it was adopted by belgium, sweden, indonesia, as well as many other smaller powers. their goal was to make a cheap and easy to produce/maintain for countries with smaller militaries not as capable of making rifles in their own and it did quite well at that.
don't forget the AR70, those euro rifles were very aesthetic
If only we could get a mud test on that sealed charging handle track...
Yeah I wonder what will happen. Will it work nicely or failes miserably?
This rubber type identical with sig sg 550. Maybe ian can test sg550, this rifle is more available
There is no military rifle on this earth more beautiful or elegant than the FN CAL.
could listen to hours of the background history you are providing..hope you have a great new year and best wishes from zurich :)
I really appreciate the amount of thoughtfulness you put into your research & presentation. I also just watched your video on the Barrett light fifty. Always enlightening. Thank you.
Ha, the burst thing, we almost never used it in the service. So the first time I was on the range and got one round when I fired on burst I thought my rifle was broken. Nobody had told us about that.
Wondering what other rifles/smg's that have same problem with burst not resetting..besides M4. Only knew fnc and mp5 with burst mode that resets everytime u let go of the trigger
The only time we ever used burst was when we drew too much ammo for the range and had to do a big spendex and shoot it all because turning it back in was such a big hassle.
Another great video as always. Great job. Looking forward to the next one as usual.
Always wanted to see the CAL on Forgotten Weapons. Thanks Gun Jesus! Hope to see the FNC next. ;)
It looks like a pretty good rifle. Indonesia is one of the countries who uses the FN FNC but makes it locally as the Pindad SS1.
Revisit the FNC, please. I need to see it in 1080p. Maybe you get to fire it this time around, too!
well your wish came through
The way that trigger guard pivots is clever, there's that big nub still under the trigger to prevent your other fingers or the material of the glove over the top getting caught behind the trigger
Looks well thought out, nice gun, thanks.
Reminds me of the Sig550, especially with that rubber-sealed cocking handle groove, and cocking handle connecting the bolt carrier with the recoil spring.
Thank you , Ian .
I do not agree on the criticism of the rubber flaps. Firstly, if it has not deteriorated on a gun from 1967, pretty safe to say the material is stable. Secondly, the same idea is used on the Stgw 90 / SIG 550 and after a decade of personal use, I cannot see any issue with these rubber flaps nor do I know of any widespread problems. Depending on the design, they do not move much and are thus under little stress. It is actually a really good design.
I'm not sure. That CAL looks to be in pretty good condition. Was probably stored in conditions that wouldn't really stress or wear the rubber out. Mind if I ask what the conditions are like where you used the 90 and 550? I'm a little skeptical because I've seen rubber dry out before.
I think rubber drying out is definitely an overwrought issue, all you have to do is smear a little gun oil on those lips when you clean, and that will lock in the moisture and they will stay supple for a very long time.
It's definitely an issue that can happen. If you work on cars you will see dry rot. Tires as example will dry rot even if they sit in a wearhouse.
yeah I like the flap gasket, too. If they work and you are in muddy/wet/dusty conditions where you really need them, you could just replace it. If they actually get worn out, and you aren't in dirty conditions you could just ignore it.
I bet they wear more when the gun cycles while its hot or very cold, (vs sitting on a shelf) but like you say it looks like they used The Good Rubber for that one. (maybe silicone, it's got that glossy wobbly look in the vid, and it would make sense for the temperature)
(what can I say, I always thought the condom-on-the-barrel thing was a smart idea, and they should have given soldiers a whole load of them in olive drab for rifle protection (so the clever soldiers could also use them on their "guns", instead of the other way round :O)
@@duffelpuffelmcduff1181 I agree I think its likely the IMT squired this straight from the factory and has been well treated and stored in a nice climate controlled environment since the late sixties hardly comparable to service conditions.
I don't know why, but I'm really drawn to the rifles by FN! Appreciate the video, Ian, you're on a roll!
Thanks Ian!
Very cool gun to play with, we have an available Pre-Sample that we had the new guy disassembled along with the video. Thank you McCollum for the video.
FN is quality personified.
@Mr. Van Dyck Hello, glad to see that you are aware of words, as you know all Capital Letters in the name is a person/corporation.
Corporations are dead as are persons with their names in all caps. Just look at your legal documents, your name is in all caps/same as all the folks in the cemetery.
Thank you
That thing is in beautiful shape.
This is a great looking gun.
Real shame this rifle never took off, thanks again mr McCollum
Disagree, this failure forced them to make the FNC, which is better by far (IMO)
Very nice video man
What a handsome firearm
Good stuff, what a handsome rifle.
That things clean af
Finally a video for CAL.
Hi ian you doing a great job with showing us all thous unique guns!
It will be awesome if you manage to put your hands on a DSHK heavy machine gun! Keep up the good work man!
‘Access with mittens’ is my new favourite phrase.
I've always loved FN's weapons.
Ha! SIG totally stole that idea of a rubber surround for the charging handle opening.
Anybody else a little disappointed he doesn't show the fire control of that thing?
At circa 0:29 it was indicated that "Carabine Automatique Légère" referred to Military Automatic Carbine. As "Légère" loosely translates as light, in French this means "Light Automatic Carbine".
That is a very smart looking rifle.
it’s such a nice shooter!
Oh wow, that's an incredibly sexy rifle. I've always loved the FNC, it's one of my favourites, and its older sibling does not disappoint. :O
Super interesting rifle!
*Correction.*
I've found a couple of picture of the piston. The shape of pistons head suggests that it is a long stroke gun. There are rings cut around it for better gas "sealing".
It has very interesting bolt that give proper primary extraction during unlocking. Definately should be mentioned.
40+ years that rubber still looks good to me
Feels Mitten Man
My favorite Gun.... Absolutely beautiful.
That bolt reminds me of the MG34 bolt. Interupted threads and may explain why it was not successful. Anyway happy new year Ian.
Based on looks alone, it looks awesome.
Firing pin retaining pin like on the L85 - I remember that the tip of a bootlace worked fairly well to get those out :P
Ian always brings the goods.....
Funny to see how the outside is pretty much a FNC only to open it and see the changes that were made to make the FNC soldier proof. Wich the FNC is. Nice vid as allways!
Early morning crew who up?
Me
nope i'm sleep-watching this
I'm in the UK, it was released just after midday over here!
Ssssh!! We're trying to sleep here.
Can’t wait for a video on the FNC
I think he did one two or three years ago
If you'd like to see a more in depth breakdown of exactly how it works, it's an available model in the game Gunstruction. I personally recommend it
The transition from Stock to Receiver reminds so of a H&K G3
I must say I have not heard much about this particular weapon in any literature I recieved while doing ROTC in Thailand. All we got serious info was on the M16 and the HK33.
Ohhhhh yesssss.
Gun Jesus back with modern combat rifles!
Looks like this thing might ace the mud test.
Very nice
You should do a mud test. Really want to see how well does that dirt control system work.
In 2003, I was offered one for sale in Iraq. While testing it prior to the purchase, the CAL suffered from several stoppages, especially in the three round mode. I remembered then that back when I was in the Belgian military, we were told that we would receive the CAL. But after several delays, we learned that the CAL went through more rigorous tests and was diagnosed as suffering from a conceptual “flaw”. We were not given detailed explanation, only that too many stoppages rendered the rifle obsolete. I had forgotten it all until I led a US Task Order in Iraq and was offered a CAL for US$1,200. I declined it, and instead bought 17 HK MP5 for my crew and I.
He should call his videos "Breakfast With Ian." I enjoying an omelet with toast, OJ and coffee while watching this.
Looks kinda futuristic, neat
I didn't know that is how burst fire works. All I know is that no matter how long you click your mouse you got the full extent of the burst! I had no idea that you could cancel the burst early.
Well that explains the so far unexplained presence of CALs in my neck of the woods. :)
As I'm watching this I'm thinking damn this would be an awesome candidate for the in range mud test 😂😂😂
Thats a sleek looking piece of deathbringing metal.
Releasing videos at 5:15am?? Thank you!
thats a good lookin rifle
Heard a old timer in the Army talk about these, it was some secret squirrel kinda stuff.
That is a cool rifle.
I had the side folding stock version which is alot more rare than fixed stock
Its like a Sig a type 89 and a galil all fused together it looks so weird but cool
For a rare rifle it was a bit short video. But anyhow, awesome stuff. :)
like the gun with the straight 30-rds mag installed
FNC video from Ian followed directly afterwards by a video from LAV of the same rifle.
Maybe you should make a video on the FN Browning pistol(s).
So many wanting a video on the AK5c when we all know the one true AK5 is the original version.
The Royal Oman Police purchased an unknown quantity of CAL's during the late 70's.
The basic framework of the K-series weapons in Korea was made by the FN CAL and M16A series, AR. The same is true of the Japanese Self-Defense Force's Type 89 artillery. That's why K2 and his derivatives look more alike.
It is a rare thing for me to say, "I want one", when these obscure rifles come up. But yeah I want one. Haha
I was hoping we could see the resetting ratchet for the burst setting 🎻🎻🎻
Long live FNH
The firing pin was probably made from non-thoriated tungsten electrodes that TIG welders got tired of using.
It is pretty- very pretty.
I handled one of these in the mid-seventies. I thought it was very nice but, if I remember correctly, it cost more than twice the price of a Mini Fourteen!
the later FNC came close to adoption by Canada, in the end it took second place to the M16A2.
I wish Canada had . I think the fnc is a better gun than early m16 variant
Reminds me of the HOWA Type 89
FN rifles look so bulky I love it.
The bolt is connected to the cam pin
The cam pin is connected to the firing pin
The firing pin is connected to the cross pin.
Vervier connected dem dry pins.
First thing i thought of when i saw this bolt was "MG34"
YT will suggest watching L. Vicker's similar video, Well, he calls it a pussycat. And indeed, the muzzle will move as little as the barrel flexing!
That firing pin retaining pin in the bolt seems like an issue which is easily resolved. That can't be the whole story... The gun looks for all intents and purposes like it handles like an M16, for the end user.
I love the rubber cover for the charging handle. It would probably last a decade of use which is pretty good. Don't really see a problem with the bolt either, as a military rifle a soldier isn't expected to take apart the bolt all the time. That would be an armourers job to do.
Where I served, you do take it apart after a full day at the range, or shooting elsewhere.
It was designed back when the M16 didn't need maintenance
The Sig 556 has many similarities to this system.
I doubt it will be possible for you to get your hands on one of the rifles but do you have plans to make a video talking about the new French felin famas rifles and the equipment that goes with them?
Do a review on the SLR oh and great video btw