BEFORE YOU BUY - Forever Laser Dark - Everything you need to know before you make a purchase!
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- In this week's video Josh shows you everything you need to know before buying Forever Laser Dark transfer paper.
I also made a video showing you how I prepared the image for printing with Ghost - • How To Create a CMYK ...
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THIS IS THE BEST INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO I'VE FOUND ON FOREVER LASER DARK! MY GO TO!
Very well narrated and descriptive. Very informative. Thank you.
Good information... this is a very informative walkthrough on the process. Thanks Josh :)
SO COOL! Gonna order some right now.
Yesss, finally I've found the answer, thank you so much. I have the same HP laser jet pro as you. I knew about the white ghost toner, and the forever soft dark transfer paper. But was not sure if you could use them together 😊😊 your a star and I'll keep watching. Thank you.
Tony from the UK
Great job explaining the process!! From print to final product. As someone who was very new to this I finally understand because of this video.
Thank you,
FREEDOM INK'D
If your just getting into this laser printing this is the guy to follow he literally knows everything
Josh ----> th-cam.com/video/Jlp9oLtgBTE/w-d-xo.html
Thank u been having a lil trouble only tried 2 but was using the forever flex soft
I made my decision to go with the ghost system based off of your tutorials. By far, you give the most info about the PROCESS of using ghost. Love the versatility of the ghost.
Took my business to the next level.
Thanks
Thanks! I've been very busy on the USCutter videos that I have let me personal TH-cam page gather dust. I promise I will have some better videos on Ghost on both soon!
I just want to add. This process may not be for everyone. Some will not like the hand(feel) of the print as far as clothing is concerned. I wouldn't use this as my 1 and only process. But it does add some versatility to your business. Each piece of equipment you buy, learn every money making potential that equipment can offer.
Hey how many washes does it last
I learned so much but now have so many more questions. Looking for a laser printer, now thinking, I need to make sure it has white toner... if I replace the black toner with white, I need black... Lol. I know I'm just too knew and need to slow down and get this info right. Thanks for this video.
Cool channel love it Purchase my HP to 25 4-D W but white toner ink from UScutter
Very very nice I hope I am going to succeed it soon
I use to have ghost toner and did not work for me. I went to DTG because most I do are t-shirts. Also, I use digital transfers but better ones. Cool video explaining this.
Nothing wrong with DTG at all! I'm glad that you found the solution that is growing your business and I appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos! Thank you so much and don't ever stop learning and growing!
Thanks do more about this paper and doing one on the Oki printer.
I've got some stuff planned that is using the rip software that the Oki's use in the pipeline. What version of the rip software do you currently use?
@@uscuttervideos I used digital factory Oki edition i have Troubles with decent size photos and logos.
I can't wait until Icolor puts out the toner cartridges for the Brother Laser Printers.
can this work with a Brothers Laser Printer?
I have not heard anything about this.
Is it the case that the forever flex soft ( white) cracks after washing.
It doesn't seem to have any stretching ability at all😕
Nice
I have watched your videos so many times you can come for Thanksgiving as a family member LOL I forgot to order the finishing sheet and thought I could use some coated butcher paper I had on hand that I use for stencils. Well it actually removed the entire print from the T-Shirt and it is now stuck to the paper. Would regular uncoated butcher paper work that I use for Sublimation? I will go and order the correct paper also. Thank you
Yes, you can use that same butcher paper you use with sublimation. Make sure you do a small test to ensure the toner doesn't stick to it just to be safe. I can't say that every type will work but I have not personally ran into one that doesn't yet.
Do annyone know if the printer will work with liberty laser dark A - for dark garments flex foil?
are there other ways to make the transparency paper designs to adhere to the shirt besides b sheets?
What settings do you print on? I've tried the settings recommended with my transfer sheets and the image is either blurry or not defined enough.
Do you think Forever Laser is compatible with HP CM1415fmw ?
can you use cotton t shirts unlike sublimation where it has to be polyester
I have no experience with colour laser printers. I would like to know how you use the ghost white toner, do you replace the black toner with the white? And if so are the darks dark enough? I’d really like to know this as I have a complicate illustration to transfer onto black T-shirts.
I've tried to find an alternative paper to get a matt finish for sealing toner after transfer is applied, any ideas?
You totally took your own sock off and wiped down that jacked up transfer! DONT DENY IT! THAT WAS AWESOME! I'm gonna Like, Subscribe, Share, and Buy your product! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Having issues getting the lighter colors to transfer when pressing the b paper to the a transfer film. Tried running the images back through with a white backing but still not transferring over completely. Using a canon color image class LBP 622cdw. Any suggestions?
What density settings did you use for canon little ghost?
can I use a Brothers laser printer with this process?
First time using this product, it almost worked perfectly, but it left a few spots throughout the design where the adhesive didn't transfer. I tried repressing, but didn't work. What should I have done differently?
I've been looking at a HP150 printer would this be ok It has both black and white toner
Which kind of a printer you use
I’m new to this. So I can’t use an ink jet printer? Is there another type of no cut paper for it? I’d hate to have to buy a cutter. Thank you in advance.
What types of paper you use? and also what it means A sheets and B sheets paper
The A sheet is DTF Film.. The B sheet is the adhesive instead of powder ?
Thanks, a lot have been learned. I will really appreciate if you could do a video that's teaches how to uses bulky laser copier printer for printing on forever transfer. Am using a canon c5240i and I cant seem to get the settings right I have wasted a lot of Forever heat transfer paper and to no avail, it prints but will come as melted smeared image. plus the colours arent colour. Can you please help...
Thanks.
I am having issues with the b sheet leaving large patches of glue on the A sheet after pressing. Forever told me this was down to pressure being too high, but I reduced the pressure and it got worse. Any thoughts?
You have a lot of humidity in your work shop?
What paper do you use over the a/b paper? is it silicone paper?
Thanks for the video! I have a question about the black lettering and borders. I am running the m281 printer, but I am getting cloudy edges on my prints with pure black, on certain reds and greens also. Any ideas on why? I changed to a lighter color and I haven't run across that issue. I'm a little jealous of the pure black prints lol
So it could be a few different things! 1. The Forever Laser dark adhesive adds a little bit of brightness to the color because of the adhesive it uses. This allows your designs to "pop" better, 2. For my CMYK toner, I only use Ghost CMYK cartridges, HP brand CMYK toner cartridges, and also Canon toner has no issues when pressed on a heat press. I've found that when I use low-cost toner replacements that they can change color when pressed so I only use those three brands when creating transfers.
USCutter Videos totally understandable with off brand, but I am using the original HP toner. I am going to print a color chart and see how it behaves. Thanks for the quick response.
I like your work , I do sublimation, laser transfer and Vinyl, i subscribe to your channel
Sir can I use hp laser printer 1025 for t shirts printing. Do I need to change the only white ghost toner or the all cmy color
You replace the black cartridge with the white cartridge. I suggest using Ghost brand or OEM HP cartridges to prevent color change from the heat press. We do have a cartridge for that printer here - www.uscutter.com/Ghost-White-Toner-Cartridge-Comparable-HP-126A
One question. What are the the Gloss and Matte Antistick sheets for?
To do your finishing press to make sure everything has been pressed down nice and firmly to the substrate.
Have you had an issue with gradient colors, from dark to pale?? im having an issue with the pale color transferring to the shirt... im using cymk printer, but i can switch the black out for white... Are you suggesting to print in white first then print on color?
If you are printing everything on the same transfer ( CMYK &WH ) then you will print the CMYK first followed by the white underfilling layer. I show how the process I used to create the transfers used in this video in full detail here - th-cam.com/video/rPS9qu0UIrY/w-d-xo.html
You said this can be used with another Forever transfer product. Forever Flex I think? Could you share more about that and what the difference is between the two?
Here is the video I made about Forever Flexsoft a few weeks ago - th-cam.com/video/FwX8OypjVTs/w-d-xo.html
which paper would work if I want to have the tonor and then use foil to create the color? I tried a weedless foil paper and the tonor did not come off nicely on the sweatshirt
Forever Flexsoft is going to be the best paper for that. www.uscutter.com/FOREVER-Flex-Soft-No-Cut-Laser-LED-Heat-Transfer-Paper
where can I perches white toner ?
This paper with inkjet printers correct?
What printer are you using?
I can't manage to print something decent with my canon mf651cw. Max toner density + paper set in thick 2 ( 160g/m²), it looks patchy, faded like the toner doesn't bond to the paper. It's been a week of trying
I use this same printer and in each pass printing there are lines peeled off the matte side which go into the ink. It’s like the rollers are doing this, any idea what I can do to stop this?
These printers and papers use toner, so you won't have any ink smearing.
I'm having issues with the two step process
HI :) please kindly list all the models of hp printers that can use a white toner in it
I put a link to the USCutter.com Ghost white toner page that has all of the cartridges they offer down in the video description.
Can you still use the laser printer for regular prints or does this material make the printer now exclusive for just this material?
You can still use it for normal printing as much as you like!
Hello, I hear that the LASER-DARK (NO CUT) has a hard or heavy paper feel, is that true?
It is not made for doing large full designs. If you do that it just feels the same as vinyl, so you would want to use a paper with a softer, expandable adhesive like the UniNet iColor Premium paper for those.
Hi
I have a problem with forever papers, basically with any kind of laser transfer paper for my oki 8432 pro wt
The colors are fading like in three washes
Do you have any advise ?
If you are using laser dark with the oki, you need to use the rip software to rasterize the prints for best results. If you are large solid prints with Forever laser dark, when you wash it you will see some fading due to the water and soap just sitting on top of the toner when washed. The small holes or lines left by the rasterization will help with that.
I’m confused about the white toner cartridges for canon? Are the white toner cartridges universal, meaning they can work with any laser printer?
No they are not universal. Each printer uses a specific cartridge type.
PLEASE ADVISE... will the M255dw work with the white ghost toner?
Cartridges are not universal and we do not offer a cartridge for the M255
i have a hp255dw printer would this be a good printer for the forever paper
You will want to increase the toner density on the printer and only print one sheet at a time. I would have jamming issues if I tried to print more than sheet at a time.
What kind of laser printer can I use any from your local store like staples or Walmart?
Yes, but only certain printers have white toner cartridges that are made for use with them.
Which paper selection on the printer r do you select for the hp m254dw agsin when using forecer dark?
Transparency or Heavy Glossy work fine
This is the printer im doing research on is it recommended?
Can i ask you about a good printer a3 for the laser dark no cut and flex soft no cut because i have this probleme of printer i didn t find the good one
Any of the printers that we offer at USCutter.com have been tested and verified to work with our transfer papers.
What about printing on white shirts?
You could use the laser light papers with just CMYK toner if you like. If you plan on using the Forever Laser dark you would want to increase the density to max and stay away from lighter colors and light gradients.
How do you print white and black at the same time? This is what is confusing me if you need the white backing. How does that work?
I don't print them at the same time. The first print is with CMYK toners in the printer. The second print I replaced the black cartridge with a Ghost white toner cartridges and ran the print through the printer a 2nd time to place the white layer on top of the CMYK print. This video will show you how I did it - th-cam.com/video/rPS9qu0UIrY/w-d-xo.html
Hi, can we store the printed films or they have to be used on the spot?
Keep them stored in a container away from moisture. I personally keep mine in big ziplock bags.
Will this transfer paper work with a Lexmark color laser printer?
It should. Check to see what media settings your machine offers. Transparency and Heavy glossy are the ones you are looking for. Also make sure you use a quality toner cartridge or that could cause some issues as well.
will this work with a hp 454dw ? can I use the ghost toner with it ?
There currently isn't anyone making any 3rd party toner cartridges for the M454 right now. HP has kept the chip pretty well protected and nobody has been able to crack it yet.
please can i use my normal printer to do this work
I am using a desktop printer in the video.
Can I use my HP 255dw laser printer with Black toner ??? I'm just starting out I got this printer for about 160$
It would work, but you could only do darker colors.
I have a Brother Laser Printer HL3270cdw do you know if theres a white toner equivalent
I am not aware of one.
Hi, can I use Epson L1800 using this process
if it is a CMYK laser printer that uses toner then yes you can use it. I am not aware of any white toner cartridges for it
can i use a monochrome laser printer to print only white?
You can use a monochrome printer alongside white Forever Flex soft to create white transfers. If you are asking about putting a white toner cartridge into your monochrome printer, that will just depend on if they have made a cartridge to support your printer.
how is this setup different from dtf (direct transfer film) printing? this setup uses adhesive on a paper for the image to stay on a shirt. dtf uses an adhesive powder for the image to stay on shirt.
DTF is pretty new and I have not had hands on experience with it yet.
@@uscuttervideos any update? I just want a faster process this seems to be a lot of work for little results. A big job would be a lot of steps doesnt seem practical or efficient.
I have been trying to print but it scratches down the middle. How do you fix this issue?
That depends on what type of printer you are using. In my experience using the M452, M254, and LBP622 and LBP623 it will scratch if you don't have the back of the printer closed up correctly and one of the paper guides is scratching the release liner.
Can I use this with a brother laser printer?
If that laser printer uses toner you can!
can i use a Brother HL-L3270CDW digital color printer?
For CMYK prints? Sure, but only with basic colors that lay down a lot of toner.
I just bought the same printer, It was expensive. Was about to get the new model of this m255dw but the cartridge was expensive on it.
They don't have a white cartridge out for the M255dw just yet.
@@uscuttervideos can i still print on dark colour clothing with no white toner.
Can I use Epson 4700 for the use of forever laser dark?
No. The Forever Laser Dark paper requires a laser printer.
Hey, I’ve been thinking about buying an inkjet or laser printer to try and get a custom t-shirt business started. Keep looking at different printers, and kind of get overwhelmed with all the information out there.
I was told an inkjet printer won’t really do well with transfer paper + dark color t-shirts.
Advised to look at laser printers, but when I googled white toner laser printers the price multiples by like 10x. How much did the laser printer in this video run?
If you do inkjet printing you can create designs for T shirts of all colors using the Heat transfer paper. You will just need to cut around the image by hand or using a vinyl cutter with contour cutting. It works because you are printing onto a white substrate that you will press onto the shirt, kind of like a patch. You just have to worry about issues like your ink washing out, or the transfer paper getting really wrinkled and cracked eventually. Using an inkjet printer with pigment inks will help with the color fading, and following wash instructions will help with the wrinkling.
At this link we have the Canon printers bundled with white toner cartridges - uscutter.com/white-toner-printers/
But if you are wanting to do this as a new business and decide a white toner printer is the way to go, I strongly suggest starting with the icolor 560. The price is higher, but it doesn't limit you with a double pass method for CMYK and White images. I will have a video out on the 560 later this week and then the Canon printers and white toner cartridges are next.
can we use flex-soft with this printer ?
Yes you can!
Can this be used with a sublimation ink jet printer
Only laser printers.
What type of paper is the A sheet? What is the name of only this sheet and do you sell them separately?
In this week's video Josh shows you everything you need to know before buying Forever Laser Dark transfer paper.
They are sold in pairs and can be purchased here - uscutter.com/Forever-Laser-Dark-Low-Temp/?source=youtube
Hi i am using this printer and forever dark.. print ing on A sheet and marrying is fine but when i press at 300 F for 30 seconds with a insta heat press my design looks faded after pressing and finishing what can i do?
Are you putting the white underfilling layer under it? What type of CMYK toners are you using?
@@uscuttervideos yes i print cmyk first and then print white layer after
Intersting video. You can use EVERY laser printer or someting special like sublimation ink printer?
No, not every printer. You need CMYK and White toner for dark substrates or designs that have gradients or very light colors in them. If you use a Monochrome printer then all that you will have is just black designs.
@@uscuttervideos Now I'm waiting the printer like this. What kind toner I need? The normal toner or something else
Can I get this heat transfer paper for ink jet printers? I need to heat transfer photos with no background
Sure thing. We have the Paropy Paper brand - Darks - www.uscutter.com/Joto-Laser-Paper-Paropy-CL-Dark-II
Lights - www.uscutter.com/Joto-InkJet-Paper-Paropy-Light
So I can only use forever dark to press shirts.
I also use it for wood and other hard surfaces myself. The adhesive can apply as low as 220°f so I've put it on paper, wood, and a few other hard surfaces.
So an inkjet printers won't work with these sheets?...
Correct! These papers only work with laser toner printers.
Can you use an iron in placement of the heat press
the short answer is no. you will need a heat press as an iron will not provide the necessary constant pressure that you get from a heat press, also i don't think an iron gets hot enough either.
Dspin is coming at you with all the right answers!
How long does the painting last?
If rasterize your design properly you can get 50+ washes with Forever Laser Dark.
Hello please can i use a HP CP 1025 printer for laser dark paper or not ?
Yes. We do also sell a Ghost cartridge for that printer - www.uscutter.com/Ghost-White-Toner-Cartridge-Comparable-HP-126A
I have the HP m452dn and it works well with the ghost white toner, and using this laser dark no cut paper.. So far it's doing the job for me..
come posso avere info per acquisto ?
Hi
Using the ghost toner system, do you have to print ALL your images with your white toner?
It depends on the image and what color the substrate is. If its just darker solid colors going on a white shirt then I wouldn't use white toner.
@@uscuttervideos actually I wanna use this for dark tees only. Mostly black!
how long does this forever product last?
Depends on the image, but 30+ washes if its done correctly. If you don't make any effort and just put a giant chunk of toner on the front of a shirt, you can expect to see it peeling and cracking within a few washes.
Hi I don't suppose anyone knows the settings for Kyocera laser printers
This is the first time I have ever heard of that brand.
Can you use with a sublimation printer?
No, this paper is only works with laser toner.
@@uscuttervideos Can any hp laserjet colored printer be used?
Because I have been trying to buy a printer and I keep hearing that m254 is no longer available and it has been replaced by newer models.
is there an 11x17 laser printer that has the white cartridge also?
Yes, but I would seriously just save up the money for a UniNet if you are going for larger sizes. I can't stress this enough!
USCutter Videos why so ? I never had issues
@@uscuttervideos I read that you said it is not good for big prints. What is the largest you suggest to use?
So you need white toner?
For best results on dark clothing.
Did I see you wear forever laser dark on white t-shirts? it's possible?
Yes. It works on shirts of all color.
Thx for the vid👍🏾i have a Xerox laser printer,could i use any of these sheet to print and press on shirts with my printer.I knw you said Xerox dnt have enuff for toner.
It seems like you've already answered your question in the same sentence!
Is it even possible to print on those transparent sheets with a Brother HL-4570CDW ? I don’t need the white toner actually.
Brother printers are pretty solid! Make sure you select a print media like glossy or heavy glossy to slow down the media inside the printer allowing it enough time for the toner to fuse to the paper. The OEM brother CMYK toner should also not change color when pressing. Just be wary of using any 3rd party toners because some of them will change color after being pressed.
USCutter Videos Do you think it‘s possible that the colors gonna change when I press them if they are from 3th party toners? But that’s the only issue that can maybe happen?
Another question about something else; I have seen that there are some sellers on aliexpress selling White toner powder, imagine when I buy a empty clean black toner cartridge and I put there inside the white powder instead of black powder will it be after that the same as a white toner cartridge from White Ghost Toner? If it will could that work then with my printer; Brother HL-4570CDW?
@@VideosOf2023 Ghost, UniNet, and Oki toner have all been specially created with the transfer process in mind while other toners are not.
Usually, the OEM manufacturers have a higher quality toner that won't change color from the process.
I can't really speak on the other until I try it for myself but it sounds like a fun project!
USCutter Videos Please try it and review it in a video it would be a exciting video!