Fred Reissig - A Nintendo game that was only released in Japan. One of the themes in the game, “Unfounded Revenge”, samples this symphony. There’s a lot of other songs in the game that sample classical composers, including Beethoven, Mozart, Satie, Bach, and even Tchaikovsky.
Strangely, I grew up with this symphony. My mother took a music appreciation class in college and her professor was evidently a "new music" aficionado. This was in the 1940s. I came along in 1948, and she had a recording of this symphony in her collection (Stokowski, the first recording of the symphony from 1940). It was my first exposure to Shostakovich from earliest recollection (probably around 1952/53) and definitely an influence on me and my affection for not only his music, but the music of composers like Bartok, Stravinsky and Prokofiev who were all writing at the same time. I know every note of this score. It's in my blood. I think it is one of Shostakovich's greatest works. I didn't get to know #5 until I was easily 11 or 12 years old, and later in life I had the honor of being at the U.S. premiere of his 14th Symphony under Eugene Ormandy in Philadelphia (December, 1970, I think). I love the Largo in this performance, but the tempo of the second movement seems too slow for me, having been brought up on the Stokowski recording. The last movement is more like it! I've always described it as a "barrel of monkeys", and indeed it is in this performance!
Eugene ormandy's performance which I was fortunate enough to hear live in 1982 along with Aaron Copland Inscape was and remains a far greater interpretation
What a great symphony this is, and one that certainly haunts me. That first movement must be one of the greatest largos of all time; awe-inspiring and terrifying. And the rip-roaring finale is laugh-out-loud funny. Bernstein's tempo in the second movement was shockingly slow in comparison to other recordings, but it makes sense in terms of the pace slowly increasing with each movement. The architecture of this symphony is so strange, maybe this is the solution. And what other composer has written so magnificently for the piccolo. So often it is used just to add a little "flash" to the soundscape, but he gets so much more from that shrill high sound, which can be tragic as well as comic. Thanks for the post.
+Adrian Edwards Yes the 6th is a very great symphony but is strangely neglected in performance compared to many of the other symphonies. Typical of Shostakovich to be so enigmatic with that incredibly bleak and as you say, terrifying 1st movement, then concluding with a totally opposing joyous finale - what a musical genius to bring it off as he does!
Caught my attention that this work can be performed in 40 minutes or as little as 26 (Kondrashin). I wondered if this version had some bonus tracks, like the remaster of some 80s metal album.
First time hearing Bernstein conducting this wonderful symphony. Love the tempos, and very good sound quality given the date it was recorded. It is fun to watch the conductor's movements. Not a distraction, just interesting. Great finale tempo and performance.
It was recorded in the 1980s, when they already had invented digital sound technology (the compact disc, or CD, if you remember). I don't understand your remark "very good sound quality given the date it was recorded". Did you think it was recorded a few days after the completion of the composition, i.e. in 1939?
@@alleespach This is an extremely rude reply ...such a comment does not belong on a beautiful music platform...I will apologize to Bob Cochran on your behalf whether you like it or not.
Thank you for this wonderful post, Shostakovich is my favourite composer and Bernstein my favourite conductor and while I heard him conduct the 5th live, never got the chance to see him conduct the excellent 6th. wish he conducted more Shostakovich than the 1st, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th.
I saw that one commenter described this performance as "slow and tedious". That's a mind-numbing description given the brilliant explanation Bernstein gives in another video about the sentiment behind this work. I think Lenny does the work great justice as does the orchestra with its collective talents back in the day. I have had the pleasure of playing this with Gergiev and the sentiment was the same. Back then, I have to confess that I didn't "get it" ether. Advancing age does bring perspective, though, and I have to say I really love this.
The second movement shows the inspiration of Prokofiev in Shostakovitch's writing profusely in many sections. I love seeing these sorts of things in music!
The 6th is under performed compared to many of Shostakovich's other symphonies, e.g. nos. 4,5, 7,10,11,12, yet it is one of his great works - incomprehensible?
The overall effect of this symphony to me has always been unconvincing final jocularity which CANNOT counter balance the gloom of the first movement. When I first heard it I thought "He can't be serious."
7:46 The doublebasses are supposed to play pizzicati alongside the cellos, not "arco". Only the violas play arco at this moment... (see score). Small problem in editing, I guess.
The second and the middle part of the third movement are much too slow! At 32:53 the temp suddenly decreases only to get to back to the original tempo at 35:54.
Well, saxophones were invented in 1840, patented in 1846. While the sax was designed with bridging the brass-woodwind gap in orchestra in mind (and Jazz decades from getting started in the United States) it never really caught on in classical music. The reason the sax didn't catch on in orchestra is likely because the standardized orchestration for orchestras developed WAY before the saxophone was invented. Like mentioned earlier, it was an instrument quite late to the classical orchestras of Europe. For the same reason, we don't often hear electronic rock instruments written in orchestras.
38 Minutes for this Symphony?! In the end it works because Bernstein sculpts it so perfectly, but it is about 10 minutes too slow. The problem is the second movement. He totally ignores Shostakovich's much faster tempo markings. That is more like practice speed for that movement.
a perfectly delightful quick finale theme, but he can't seem to develop it much before coming back to his heavier hand..I was much of the impression that the 2nd theme with the completely different rhythm didn't really make a good complement to the opening theme. He doesn't do that kind of thing as well as Prokofiev.
Man can not understand the will of God. Human beings can't know what God thinks and how to act . Just accept the results. It is impossible to apply human criteria of good and evil to the judgement of God. When I listen to this work , I think so❗
It's so cool how they referenced mother 3
Ness isn't sans I know right
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pretty sure Unfounded revenge was based off of this not the other way around
Mister64 r/whoosh
there was nothing in that comment that made it look like a joke
Even Dmitri wanted Mother 3 localized.
Normal People: Good Song
Mother 3 Fans: HIPPITY HOPPITY THIS SONG IS NOW MY PROPERTY
..............ITS A PIECE!
31:37, inspiration for mother 3's unfounded revenge theme
No one thanks, I was looking for it
Thank you
What is mother 3?
Fred Reissig - A Nintendo game that was only released in Japan. One of the themes in the game, “Unfounded Revenge”, samples this symphony.
There’s a lot of other songs in the game that sample classical composers, including Beethoven, Mozart, Satie, Bach, and even Tchaikovsky.
“Song”
Everyone and their third mother found this song through a certain Japan-exclusive GBA game.
no
Strangely, I grew up with this symphony. My mother took a music appreciation class in college and her professor was evidently a "new music" aficionado. This was in the 1940s. I came along in 1948, and she had a recording of this symphony in her collection (Stokowski, the first recording of the symphony from 1940). It was my first exposure to Shostakovich from earliest recollection (probably around 1952/53) and definitely an influence on me and my affection for not only his music, but the music of composers like Bartok, Stravinsky and Prokofiev who were all writing at the same time. I know every note of this score. It's in my blood. I think it is one of Shostakovich's greatest works. I didn't get to know #5 until I was easily 11 or 12 years old, and later in life I had the honor of being at the U.S. premiere of his 14th Symphony under Eugene Ormandy in Philadelphia (December, 1970, I think). I love the Largo in this performance, but the tempo of the second movement seems too slow for me, having been brought up on the Stokowski recording. The last movement is more like it! I've always described it as a "barrel of monkeys", and indeed it is in this performance!
Do we really care?
@@harrynking777 calm down, they used a symphony to tell a story, it does not matter whether we care or not
harrynking777 you are rude
Wow
Second movement tempo is indeed horrendous here
The final 2 or 3 minutes always give me the chills. Great symphonic work.
No ,6 is universal, and full of admiration and emotion , and far superior splendor
It's like my soul is being sucked away
From
A corner of Japan
Eugene ormandy's performance which I was fortunate enough to hear live in 1982 along with Aaron Copland Inscape was and remains a far greater interpretation
Time to get my unfounded revenge
31:37 nintendo okay
Маэстро не отразим! Чувствовать каждую ноту и смысл ее звучания, ее диалог, ее жизнь! Браво!!!
mother 3 moment
Interesting how symphonies tend to go from "barely audible" to "louder than death metal" so frickin' fast.
Symphonies?
@@sarahjones-jf4pr Acts like the one in this video, I don't know if there's a more specific word for them, I'm not too much deep in this world.
Casually listens to the whole score, drawing.
Hears 31:37, and draws a pig.
*"FOR FUCKS SAKE-"*
Funny I Feel Like I've Seen This Comment Before
Looks At Other Video about The Same Song
*"For Fucks Sake!"*
(I'm Just Joking)
Did you comment this on another video as well?
Shostakovich was a first class composer, no doubt.
Reminds me of what Richard Strauss said about himself: “I may not be a first-rate composer, but I am a first-class second-rate composer.”
He sure was!
Shostakovich is a first class first rate composer
@@ernent You rather be the best of the rest and not the rest of the best !
What a great symphony this is, and one that certainly haunts me. That first movement must be one of the greatest largos of all time; awe-inspiring and terrifying. And the rip-roaring finale is laugh-out-loud funny.
Bernstein's tempo in the second movement was shockingly slow in comparison to other recordings, but it makes sense in terms of the pace slowly increasing with each movement. The architecture of this symphony is so strange, maybe this is the solution.
And what other composer has written so magnificently for the piccolo. So often it is used just to add a little "flash" to the soundscape, but he gets so much more from that shrill high sound, which can be tragic as well as comic.
Thanks for the post.
+Adrian Edwards Yes the 6th is a very great symphony but is strangely neglected in performance compared to many of the other symphonies. Typical of Shostakovich to be so enigmatic with that incredibly bleak and as you say, terrifying 1st movement, then concluding with a totally opposing joyous finale - what a musical genius to bring it off as he does!
What is less in tune than a piccolo?
Answer: two piccolos.
Adrian Edwards z
Adrian Canarias If you’re interested, you might like Bernstein’s evaluation of this symphony. It’s available on TH-cam.
Bernstein is vibing so much. I almost expected him to dab at the end! Great director and grat orchestra.
1st movement: 00:55
2nd movement: 22:56
3rd movement: 31:03
Caught my attention that this work can be performed in 40 minutes or as little as 26 (Kondrashin). I wondered if this version had some bonus tracks, like the remaster of some 80s metal album.
*the reason why everyone is here: 31:37
Ironic how Unfounded Revenge plays in the 3rd Movement lol
Una maravilla. Una verdadera joya ¡sí, señor! El presto, en especial, es exquisito.
I also have liked very much this contemplative and lyrical symphony with a beautiful, wonderful ending.
First time hearing Bernstein conducting this wonderful symphony. Love the tempos, and very good sound quality given the date it was recorded. It is fun to watch the conductor's movements. Not a distraction, just interesting. Great finale tempo and performance.
It was recorded in the 1980s, when they already had invented digital sound technology (the compact disc, or CD, if you remember). I don't understand your remark "very good sound quality given the date it was recorded". Did you think it was recorded a few days after the completion of the composition, i.e. in 1939?
@@alleespach This is an extremely rude reply ...such a comment does not belong on a beautiful music platform...I will apologize to Bob Cochran on your behalf whether you like it or not.
@@sarahjones-jf4pr Which rude reply are you referring to???
Yeah sluggish and over romantized. Listen to Mravinsky...
Thank you for this wonderful post, Shostakovich is my favourite composer and Bernstein my favourite conductor and while I heard him conduct the 5th live, never got the chance to see him conduct the excellent 6th. wish he conducted more Shostakovich than the 1st, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th.
he also conducted and recorded the 1st and 14th
He did also conduct the 14th. But I agree. A 10th and a 15th is sorely missing in his repertoire.
I agree with everything you just said
I saw that one commenter described this performance as "slow and tedious". That's a mind-numbing description given the brilliant explanation Bernstein gives in another video about the sentiment behind this work. I think Lenny does the work great justice as does the orchestra with its collective talents back in the day. I have had the pleasure of playing this with Gergiev and the sentiment was the same. Back then, I have to confess that I didn't "get it" ether. Advancing age does bring perspective, though, and I have to say I really love this.
Atmospheric yes, but no real structure or sense of destination. Kind of like wind just traveling here and there.
THe earlier NYPO recording is better.
Thank you for this concert
The second movement shows the inspiration of Prokofiev in Shostakovitch's writing profusely in many sections. I love seeing these sorts of things in music!
They were amazing. Bernstein, but the orchestra too...
oNE Of MOST Alluring interpretations of the 6th I had the pleasure to hear.
También me ha gustado mucho esta sinfonía contemplativa y lírica con un bellísimo, maravilloso final.
The flute duet is so Amazing.
гармония звука,мечта услышать в зале
Unbelievable!! So intense!!!!
31:37 at 0.75x speed for Unfounded Revenge
Good ol' Shosty
Ищу момент с безупречным звоном колокольчика
НУ И КАК НАШЛИ ?
i love how he dances to the 3rd movement
i mean, how can you not?
That's just the way Bernstein was! :D
Who can blame him MOTHER 3 music always makes me want to dance
The largo is utterly gorgeous - yes what a strange structure for a symphonic composition.
SmashinG tune
31:37 so crazy how they stole this from MOTHER 3
Look at Bernstein dancing in 38:13 and 38:29 lol classic !
I like it. It's first simphony that I understood)
Shostakovich was a genius! :D
31:37 mother 3 xdddd
Bruh moment
The 6th is under performed compared to many of Shostakovich's other symphonies, e.g. nos. 4,5, 7,10,11,12, yet it is one of his great works - incomprehensible?
Прекрасна музика. Браво.
La sexta sinfonía em si menor op. 54 de Shostakovich fue estrenada el 5 de noviembre de 1939 bajo la dirección de Evgeny Mravinsky.
0:55 is a good place to start. But that there's an ad that suddenly interrupts in the middle of the largo is just plain too evil.
Dropping commercials into the music sure kills the vibe. It's a shame, this is such a wonderful piece.
honestly I love bernstein's tempos
Flute solos
Reh. 23 - 13:48
Reh. 27 - 16:20
💕
@@shin-i-chikozima uhhhh ok
Красавчик Бернстайн
0:56 is a good place to start.
MOTHER 3 REFERNECE??!?!?!??!?! AWOOGAAAAA
Ай молодец!
The overall effect of this symphony to me has always been unconvincing final jocularity which CANNOT counter balance the gloom of the first movement. When I first heard it I thought "He can't be serious."
Very interesting tempo choice in the 2nd movement, decidedly slower than any other recording I know.
This is the only symphony I've heard of so far that ends in B major, an underrated key.
Probably because B major is a bitch to play in tbh.
Tristan ends in B Major.
@@greggasm That's right, they have to worry about those five sharps all the time.
Shosty's own symphony 2
@@wkehl2011 Keeps 'em sharp.😜
Music Historians always ask what was Shostakovich's reason for composing this somber symphony, particularly the 1st movement!
36:24 takes his glasses of casually
That was so funny dude
Lio Matsu Without missing a beat! very cool!!.
La màs întima y la mâs danzarina de las sinfonîas del genio ruso
7:46 The doublebasses are supposed to play pizzicati alongside the cellos, not "arco". Only the violas play arco at this moment... (see score). Small problem in editing, I guess.
38:24 is funny: the cymbals entered one bar too early and the director decided to show them.
Who is the piccoloflutist on this video? ! (...He is incredibly good.)
Second movement taken at sight-reading tempo
Does anyone know when this was recorded - must have been very close to the end of his (Bernstein's) career going by the general quality.
In October 1986, in the same program in which he conducted the Sibelius 2nd Symphony, according to the site naxosvideolibrary.
LuizBHMG
Thanks!
The second and the middle part of the third movement are much too slow! At 32:53 the temp suddenly decreases only to get to back to the original tempo at 35:54.
anyone know if they had any saxophones. too busy to finish the whole thing so idk if they showed any at any poiny
Oh gosh no. Saxophones are rarely used in classical orchestras. There are exceptions, but I'd imagine they're from the recent modern era.
why are they rarely used?
Well, saxophones were invented in 1840, patented in 1846. While the sax was designed with bridging the brass-woodwind gap in orchestra in mind (and Jazz decades from getting started in the United States) it never really caught on in classical music. The reason the sax didn't catch on in orchestra is likely because the standardized orchestration for orchestras developed WAY before the saxophone was invented. Like mentioned earlier, it was an instrument quite late to the classical orchestras of Europe. For the same reason, we don't often hear electronic rock instruments written in orchestras.
38 Minutes for this Symphony?!
In the end it works because Bernstein sculpts it so perfectly, but it is about 10 minutes too slow.
The problem is the second movement. He totally ignores Shostakovich's much faster tempo markings. That is more like practice speed for that movement.
Sorry for all of the non gamers here lol
i want a unfounded revenge right now
No way bro, this was in Mother 3
31:38
Is there any doubt Lenny owns this work?
думаю, что ни один дирижёр не смог выразить глубинную сущность первой части, как смог это сделать бернстаин.
It'd be the best performance for me if the brass at the end were a little larger
Lenny At 29:04 - not loving that Picollo solo
Movement 2 is supposed to be an Allegro, Lenny...
150% speed is very interesting to try
I tryed,it's better.
38:23 *Cymbal miscounts*
Bernstein: "WTF man"
a perfectly delightful quick finale theme, but he can't seem to develop it much before coming back to his heavier hand..I was much of the impression that the 2nd theme with the completely different rhythm didn't really make a good complement to the opening theme. He doesn't do that kind of thing as well as Prokofiev.
31:38 Fill In The Blank Spot: I Shall Have My _________ Revenge
Minecraft
@@acblook Sorry, But The Correct Answer Is "Unfounded"
@@InsaneKorean77 I'd like to use a lifeline
@@acblook Sorry Bruh, Don't Know Any
31:38 You ever just hate it when your fat neighbor decides to go into another timeline and basically end the entire world?
Dom dim?
6:40 Fall of Eagles
Who's here because of Mother 3?
Колокольчика тут нет, только треугольник
funy mother 3😳😳
А где же тот самый колокольчик в финале из зеленой книги?!
my interpretation:
music music music music music music music music music music music unfounded revenge music music music
Is that Wolfgang Schultz?
Yes, that's right. He's the leading flute player of the Vienna Philharmonic for more than decades ago. Then he died in 2013. That's all I know.
31:37
Porky?
13:47
Solo hay hombres en la orquesta. (Only men in the orchestra)
9:02 , 13:46 , 16:21
+
w sostakovich
that timpani player sure is late at most of the important bits... that would frustrate me so badly as the conductor..
Небесная музыка
Man can not understand the will of God. Human beings can't know what God thinks and how to act . Just accept the results. It is impossible to apply human criteria of good and evil to the judgement of God. When I listen to this work , I think so❗
Kind of interesting tbh
@@patricklewis9787
Thank-you
Take care of yourself
Good luck ！