I don't see Galade ex in there, been running it to great success against multiple S and A tier decks and whipping the floor with them, playin 2 galade lines, 2 lucario lines and 1 hitmonlee, very fast damage, very consistent, low energy cost, counters really well all these high energy cost meta decks and its bulky hp at 170 means you can only get one shot by charizard
Cyrus and giant cape are huge problems for Mewtwo. You can no longer reliably take a hit on a mewtwo and then sacrifice something else to a gust because of cyrus, and not being able to consistently one shot things for 150 that Mewtwo could before because of cape, is very bad. Unfortunately, I do think Mewtwo is actually power crept out of the format regardless of whether dark pokemon are doing well or not.
Not power crept at all. None of the cards released have a huge leap in power level, the introduction of said cards just changed the format so that it does not favor Mewtwo anymore. Stop throwing power creep without knowing what it means.
I know exactly what it means, and the point still stands. Regardless of the term you want to use, with the current pool of cards, Mewtwo will never see a large amount of success again. Will that change with new cards? Possibly, but I guarantee you Mewtwo will never be the bdif again in this current card pool.
@@kylemadison1296 power creep means releasing cards that are objectively better that make the previous ones effectively obsolete. To have power creep you would need an example of a card that is an objectively better version of another card. None of the meta cards fulfill that requirement therefore it is not power creep at all. It’s just the meta changing.
@@kendrickaudrey4755 it discards 3 energy instead of 2. Yes, it might be more powerful due to the ramp that water has at its disposal but it is not powercreep. Powercreep would be to deal 150 to the active Pokémon and 20 to the benched ones for the same cost as Mewtwo: 4 energy to attack and discard 2. Mewtwo still has an advantage over palkia, it’s just not that relevant in the meta at the moment. Stop throwing around words you don’t understand.
18:53 Statistically the best Darkrai deck in the mirror match-up is the Greninja variant, Magnezone had a 47-26 lead on Weezing, while Greninja has a 102-60 lead on Magnezone, 39-17 on Weavile, and 11-6 on Weezing. Overall the Weavile is the worst variant in my opinion, losing to most of the top dogs in the Metagame.
I made a cool anti meta Venusaur deck that i would call B+ tier. The idea is to put up a tank and out heal the chip damage. It heals 20 every turn to counter darkrai and Cyrus with 2 Shaymins. Late game Venusaur heals another 30/turn with giant bloom. There is 140 healing with support cards + 20 go from capes. There’s little fire running around and few Sabrinas, so Venusaur can tank like 3-4 100+ damage hits. 2x Venusaur EX line 2x Shaymin 2x Cape 1x Drudugon 2x Prof Research 2x Poke ball 2x Erika 2x Pot 1x Cyrus
This deck is underestimated, I would give A+ tier, majority of matches I made with it ended up by the concede of the opponent, they can’t rely on the sustain
Just tried it but swapping druddigon with a Leaf. I played like 10 games or so going 8W/2L, it's definitely a bit inconsistent but tanking 3 Storms from Palkia or completely stalling Darkrai is a lot of fun 😂
Totally agree on your charizard deck perspective!! This deck is really strong and the only deck that can STILL 1 shot any pokemon, even with all new metas coming out, and you’re the only pocket youtuber that put him in S tier. Hats off mads!!
I’m personally running a different variant of the vaporeon manaphy palkia deck that runs 2 sabrinas+1 cyrus and it turns out to be decently consistent even without any mistys, with the biggest upside being able to win against darkrai magnezone much more consistently since you can avoid hitting 2 drudiggons in a row with the palkias
@@PocketMadsI’ll leave the decklist here, if u want to give it a try: 2 Palkias 2 Manaphys 2 Vaporeons 1 Eevee 2 Pokeballs 2 Professors 2 Communications 2 Capes 2 Sabrinas 2 Leafs 1 Cyrus Also, keep the pocket content coming, you are doing great so far, can’t wait to see more even though i usually don’t comment here
The first sign I saw that led me to believe Blaine is cooked is how I tested this whack "Regirock + Gallade ex" build, and Regirock literally just solo'd their whole deck. Blaine aggro is so reliant on its titular trainer card in this format, and any moment that it doesn't swing for massive damage, it either gets chipped down too quickly by things like Druddigon/Palkia/Darkrai, or it just gets completely run over by high-end decks utilizing literally any Stage 2 Pokémon.
I think too alot of other decks like Rampardos and Luxray etc are doing well against mewtwo because they're so fast, and are able to hit for big damage pretty easily, while Mewtwo needs to Gardevoir.
yo mads! been trying pika decks left and right and though the zebstrika variant is technically better vs all the stall decks its not reliable enough. I found a middle ground by playing 7 basics + 2 sabrina + 2 cyrus + 1 gio which works wonders so far. Either go Zeb or double sabrina + cyrus I guess. Only problem rn. Magnezone + fighting toolbox becomes more and more popular since it really has a go mu into everything rn and is also a 1 price deck which is insanly strong. great job as always :)
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing I love that! I also think that the dawn/zapdos combo might be really really strong too. We will have to see how the pikachu decks settle into their own (:
It's hard to accept that the meta has shifted away from the Mewtwo EX Deck which is my favorite with that being said I have to agree however the battle I did that I used Pikachu EX I lost granted the majority of the battles I did today I used Mewtwo EX/Mew EX but losing when I changed to Pikachu EX makes me wonder if I should even try battling because I still don't have any of the new decks all I got today was the highlight card of the Team Galactic Deck and unlocked the rental deck every good card I wonder picked for I failed I'm not even sure I'll ever be able to get the new decks at this point and I don't even want to attempt to battle with any of my other decks because I'm sure I'll lose
Greninja version as a pure stall deck is even better, with leaf, rocky helmet etc just only get your darkrai out to get the final hit (or in very very rare cases where you dont have a drug) also i ran 2 potions, no communications or cyrus
I think melmetal is really a pacing issue. I found more success with dialga probopass and while it might not necessarily be faster I think the ability to hit for up to 180 in a single attack saved it. Dialga with a neutral energy attacker is really the way to go
Dialga needs some buff maybe make his first attack one energy instead of two or make it 40-50 damage instead of 30 or make his second attack 120-130 instead of 100 or make his second attack having some kind of effect like minus 10-20 damage next turn.
I played 10 games with Charizard deck. I never managed to evolve it before I lost. It’s so inconsistent with both evolving and Moltres coin flip. Atleast Gyrados can with even if my Misty rolls X 90% of the times.
I don’t know what I’m doing wrong with Lucario and Aerodactyl. I haven’t won a game. I’m doing okay with primeape. I just can’t reliably get to aerodactly before getting outmuscled while the primeape build gets early pressure and knockouts.
Aerodactyl with Ape if played without making mistake can take down literally anything, cyrus synergise so good with the deck Also It counters Gyarados It doesn't get countered by Mewtwo because no one is playing Mewtwo anymore
Mewtwo players have to adapt, the dumbed down Omnitank hit for 150 playstyle is gone, Mewtwo hits for 50 will you power it up and then for 150, NOTHING survives that in the meta without serious healing/support. Pokemon comm + Slab also benefits getting that Gardevoir ASAP. Of course it should auto-lose to Aggro Weavile so adaptation is needed.
Bro love the channel, RUN a 2 Mew 2 MsMagius 2 Cyrus and 2 Expeditioner 1 Gio 1 Sabrina 2 pokeball 2 professor 2 giant cape 1 Dawn 1 x speed Winning 9/10 with this guaranteed S tier or Top of A if your willing to try it and post the genius of this deck👍🏼
Was running palkia and vaporion until i saw what people was doing with dragonite and magnamite so i swapped the drgonite with a zapdos and mew ex now im destroying the meta ya its a flip but beggers cant be choosers
It can be, I don't know about at the top level but I've definitely seen it here and there and it tends to do pretty well. Fighting overall is just to suffering right now, and the buildup is quick, the aggression is fast, and it hits hard against a lot of energy but a lot of things crowd the deck out as it comes online. I would say it's very good, just not reliable in this meta.
On a second thought it is pretty awkward because it does 130 dmg vs 3 energy cards (magnezone and darkrai) and magnezone has 2 energy after attack (110 dmg) which would require both helmet and gio for one shot. Should still clobber high energy decks though (gyarados/charizard) if you're able to evolve it relatively quick. Havn't tried it myself yet since i only have one. :(
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I don't see Galade ex in there, been running it to great success against multiple S and A tier decks and whipping the floor with them, playin 2 galade lines, 2 lucario lines and 1 hitmonlee, very fast damage, very consistent, low energy cost, counters really well all these high energy cost meta decks and its bulky hp at 170 means you can only get one shot by charizard
Cyrus and giant cape are huge problems for Mewtwo. You can no longer reliably take a hit on a mewtwo and then sacrifice something else to a gust because of cyrus, and not being able to consistently one shot things for 150 that Mewtwo could before because of cape, is very bad. Unfortunately, I do think Mewtwo is actually power crept out of the format regardless of whether dark pokemon are doing well or not.
Not power crept at all. None of the cards released have a huge leap in power level, the introduction of said cards just changed the format so that it does not favor Mewtwo anymore. Stop throwing power creep without knowing what it means.
I know exactly what it means, and the point still stands. Regardless of the term you want to use, with the current pool of cards, Mewtwo will never see a large amount of success again. Will that change with new cards? Possibly, but I guarantee you Mewtwo will never be the bdif again in this current card pool.
@@kylemadison1296 power creep means releasing cards that are objectively better that make the previous ones effectively obsolete. To have power creep you would need an example of a card that is an objectively better version of another card. None of the meta cards fulfill that requirement therefore it is not power creep at all. It’s just the meta changing.
@@metalsabatico tbf palkia is somewhat a powercreep of mewtwo
@@kendrickaudrey4755 it discards 3 energy instead of 2. Yes, it might be more powerful due to the ramp that water has at its disposal but it is not powercreep. Powercreep would be to deal 150 to the active Pokémon and 20 to the benched ones for the same cost as Mewtwo: 4 energy to attack and discard 2. Mewtwo still has an advantage over palkia, it’s just not that relevant in the meta at the moment. Stop throwing around words you don’t understand.
18:53 Statistically the best Darkrai deck in the mirror match-up is the Greninja variant, Magnezone had a 47-26 lead on Weezing, while Greninja has a 102-60 lead on Magnezone, 39-17 on Weavile, and 11-6 on Weezing. Overall the Weavile is the worst variant in my opinion, losing to most of the top dogs in the Metagame.
Giants cape was the best thing they’ve added yet! Soo many basic Pokemon now reaching near 100Hp really helps when fighting EX
I made a cool anti meta Venusaur deck that i would call B+ tier.
The idea is to put up a tank and out heal the chip damage.
It heals 20 every turn to counter darkrai and Cyrus with 2 Shaymins. Late game Venusaur heals another 30/turn with giant bloom. There is 140 healing with support cards + 20 go from capes.
There’s little fire running around and few Sabrinas, so Venusaur can tank like 3-4 100+ damage hits.
2x Venusaur EX line
2x Shaymin
2x Cape
1x Drudugon
2x Prof Research
2x Poke ball
2x Erika
2x Pot
1x Cyrus
This deck is underestimated, I would give A+ tier, majority of matches I made with it ended up by the concede of the opponent, they can’t rely on the sustain
If u don’t use x speed or leaf then how do u win
It's so good...
Just tried it but swapping druddigon with a Leaf. I played like 10 games or so going 8W/2L, it's definitely a bit inconsistent but tanking 3 Storms from Palkia or completely stalling Darkrai is a lot of fun 😂
The ones I've had the most fun with are Rampardos/Lucario, Infernape/Moltres, Skarmory/Bastiodon, Weavile/Darkrai and Mismagius/Dusknoir
Dude, I think your tier list is really fair. It matches the meta well. Congrats, you got a new subscriber!
Totally agree on your charizard deck perspective!! This deck is really strong and the only deck that can STILL 1 shot any pokemon, even with all new metas coming out, and you’re the only pocket youtuber that put him in S tier. Hats off mads!!
I think lightning and fighting decks are still being optimized but will gradually take meta share in the coming weeks.
I’m personally running a different variant of the vaporeon manaphy palkia deck that runs 2 sabrinas+1 cyrus and it turns out to be decently consistent even without any mistys, with the biggest upside being able to win against darkrai magnezone much more consistently since you can avoid hitting 2 drudiggons in a row with the palkias
I love that.
@@PocketMadsI’ll leave the decklist here, if u want to give it a try:
2 Palkias
2 Manaphys
2 Vaporeons
1 Eevee
2 Pokeballs
2 Professors
2 Communications
2 Capes
2 Sabrinas
2 Leafs
1 Cyrus
Also, keep the pocket content coming, you are doing great so far, can’t wait to see more even though i usually don’t comment here
The first sign I saw that led me to believe Blaine is cooked is how I tested this whack "Regirock + Gallade ex" build, and Regirock literally just solo'd their whole deck. Blaine aggro is so reliant on its titular trainer card in this format, and any moment that it doesn't swing for massive damage, it either gets chipped down too quickly by things like Druddigon/Palkia/Darkrai, or it just gets completely run over by high-end decks utilizing literally any Stage 2 Pokémon.
I think too alot of other decks like Rampardos and Luxray etc are doing well against mewtwo because they're so fast, and are able to hit for big damage pretty easily, while Mewtwo needs to Gardevoir.
Always look forward to watching ur videos, ur def my fav pocket youtuber
Bro Tysm!!! I’m glad you enjoy 💪
Great breakdown of the new format as it’s unfolding
yo mads! been trying pika decks left and right and though the zebstrika variant is technically better vs all the stall decks its not reliable enough. I found a middle ground by playing 7 basics + 2 sabrina + 2 cyrus + 1 gio which works wonders so far. Either go Zeb or double sabrina + cyrus I guess.
Only problem rn. Magnezone + fighting toolbox becomes more and more popular since it really has a go mu into everything rn and is also a 1 price deck which is insanly strong.
great job as always :)
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing I love that! I also think that the dawn/zapdos combo might be really really strong too. We will have to see how the pikachu decks settle into their own (:
I think u need a D tier in the next tierlist to make the tier more accurate, nice vid bro
I feel bad putting decks in the D tier :D
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It's hard to accept that the meta has shifted away from the Mewtwo EX Deck which is my favorite with that being said I have to agree however the battle I did that I used Pikachu EX I lost granted the majority of the battles I did today I used Mewtwo EX/Mew EX but losing when I changed to Pikachu EX makes me wonder if I should even try battling because I still don't have any of the new decks all I got today was the highlight card of the Team Galactic Deck and unlocked the rental deck every good card I wonder picked for I failed I'm not even sure I'll ever be able to get the new decks at this point and I don't even want to attempt to battle with any of my other decks because I'm sure I'll lose
The new mespirit decks are pretty solid budget deck. For random matches i get about 50% win rate while be really fun to play
just make good deck with what available ooga booga mankey + birds + bonk EX then we good
Greninja version as a pure stall deck is even better, with leaf, rocky helmet etc just only get your darkrai out to get the final hit (or in very very rare cases where you dont have a drug) also i ran 2 potions, no communications or cyrus
It seems to be better in the mirror but weaker overall
Leafeon and fossil discard deck is pretty wild
this was exactly the video i wanted thanks for it
Hope you enjoy!!!
my enfernape deck been beating alot !!!! of polka decks tbh I enjoy it
Darkrai greninja. Don't need potion. Take away 1 communication. Throw 2 rocky helmets on drud. I lose only to misty and if i don't draw darkrai at all
I think melmetal is really a pacing issue. I found more success with dialga probopass and while it might not necessarily be faster I think the ability to hit for up to 180 in a single attack saved it. Dialga with a neutral energy attacker is really the way to go
Dialga needs some buff maybe make his first attack one energy instead of two or make it 40-50 damage instead of 30 or make his second attack 120-130 instead of 100 or make his second attack having some kind of effect like minus 10-20 damage next turn.
Why are people still talking about buffs/nerfs to already released cards? Pokémon does not do balancing like that
@ it’s a mobile game so they could do things like that if it would be like the tgc they would have Megas, v-cards and other cards besides ex
@@Gabriel-bx3nu yeah, completely new version of the card sure! But not revision of an already published one
Dialga pair with porygonz or other colorless ex pokemon is actually very strong
Dont forget about garchomp, only require 2 energies and cynthia buff, deletes everything
I combine Darkrai Weezing and greninja and it is ridiculously fun. I also think it has high potential to be great.
I played 10 games with Charizard deck. I never managed to evolve it before I lost. It’s so inconsistent with both evolving and Moltres coin flip. Atleast Gyrados can with even if my Misty rolls X 90% of the times.
Double pachirisu and all trainers/gadgets is the best deck change my mind
Already there's a whole lot of other decks missing from this tier list which also deserve to be on here just as much.
as time goes on more decks will see play - so itll be easier to put them on the list (:
I can already name a handful of decks that'll probably be on there in the near future.
I don’t know what I’m doing wrong with Lucario and Aerodactyl. I haven’t won a game. I’m doing okay with primeape.
I just can’t reliably get to aerodactly before getting outmuscled while the primeape build gets early pressure and knockouts.
That darkrai grenninja deck I play a rocky helmet
Here before you blow up, love ur vids
Thanks so much for watching!!! Hopefully people continue to enjoy the videos 🙌
Best deck right now are decks that run Cyrus, the end 😂
Aerodactyl with Ape if played without making mistake can take down literally anything, cyrus synergise so good with the deck
Also
It counters Gyarados
It doesn't get countered by Mewtwo because no one is playing Mewtwo anymore
Mewtwo players have to adapt, the dumbed down Omnitank hit for 150 playstyle is gone, Mewtwo hits for 50 will you power it up and then for 150, NOTHING survives that in the meta without serious healing/support. Pokemon comm + Slab also benefits getting that Gardevoir ASAP. Of course it should auto-lose to Aggro Weavile so adaptation is needed.
Tangrowth is pretty good too!!
Bro love the channel, RUN a 2 Mew 2 MsMagius 2 Cyrus and 2 Expeditioner
1 Gio 1 Sabrina 2 pokeball 2 professor
2 giant cape 1 Dawn 1 x speed
Winning 9/10 with this guaranteed S tier or Top of A if your willing to try it and post the genius of this deck👍🏼
Goodbye celebi, you won’t be missed.
It’ll be back lol
Mewtwo is DEAD. Darkrai decks take over 80% wr against him in addition to Cape killing his breakpoints.
Thoughts on Togekiss + Cynthia Deck?
Hasnt seen any success in tournaments - should be a decent strategy though!
What do you think about Pachirisu 18 trainers? I think it might be better than the Articuno variant
It’s definitely better than the articuno variant. But I would just play pikachu and zapdos with it Imo. Pachirisu is a good card!!!
Does the darkrai and greninja deck only run dark energy or both dark and water energy? Because I’m thinking about using that deck
You should only run dark energies ANYTIME you are playing darkrai (/
@@PocketMadscool, thank you!
Was running palkia and vaporion until i saw what people was doing with dragonite and magnamite so i swapped the drgonite with a zapdos and mew ex now im destroying the meta ya its a flip but beggers cant be choosers
Not a single Garchomp deck maaan hurts my heart lol. Pretty sure there was only one person rocking it at ursiiday too. I need some representation! lol
I thought it was great!!! But it didnt see any play this weekend lol
@@PocketMads Truly tragic. It'll have its day lol.
What mon does cape put out of charizards ex 200 dmg attack??
Skarmory and yanmega is great unless you play an electric deck
Has Luxray potential? It looks like pretty cool
It could! We have to wait and see!!
Why no Pachirisu + Magnezone deck ? I have been using one
Not a played archetype on these first tournaments so far!
Dude weezing darkrai is definitely A tier, faster to play then most decks.
Quite mid ranking tbh
Is Gallade Ex worth running? Don't think I saw a placement
It’s not great at the moment. We will have to see how the meta develops!
It can be, I don't know about at the top level but I've definitely seen it here and there and it tends to do pretty well. Fighting overall is just to suffering right now, and the buildup is quick, the aggression is fast, and it hits hard against a lot of energy but a lot of things crowd the deck out as it comes online. I would say it's very good, just not reliable in this meta.
Did no one play Volker
naa
Any lickilicky ex decks?
None really standing out on week 1. We will have to see moving forward.
I've seen them used here and there with Dialga for the pump, but definitely not common. I don't know if people just don't have the card or what.
@@Levyathyn I am using it with dialga and a single skarmory and I'm getting good wins against S tier decks
Also one single Mew Ex which saved me more times than I could count
Togekiss and mismagius ?
Not played competitively at least this week (/
Is Gallade just in nothing??
nothing yet!
Love your content bro, but you gotta stop saying basically so much.
And consistently.
I’ll try my best 😅
Gallade?
Hasn’t seen competitive play yet (:
On a second thought it is pretty awkward because it does 130 dmg vs 3 energy cards (magnezone and darkrai) and magnezone has 2 energy after attack (110 dmg) which would require both helmet and gio for one shot. Should still clobber high energy decks though (gyarados/charizard) if you're able to evolve it relatively quick. Havn't tried it myself yet since i only have one. :(
Second
Where’s lucario rampardos? Think its worth a mention at least
It’s in A tier (:
Dude just watch the video