o need for it, Concorde (as much as I love it) was killed by the Internet and Lie-down seats. You get in, dine, sleep on a reasonable bed, you are there, who really needs to get there quicker?
It will still have the same problems Concorde had, not allowed to fly overland because of sonic boom issues, price of seats, look who bought Concorde? it was foisted on to BA and AF because they were govt. owned at the time so had to fly it out of national prestige. These glossy CGI presentations look good but the reality will be a lot different.
I live about 35 miles from where this is. We are in the flight path because rarely does an afternoon or night go by without a jet circling. I hope I'm still alive to one day see it's first flight.
Has the XB-1 N990XB demonstrator made is 2nd flight yet? After the first gear-down flight in March, it was said the second flight would test systems including the undercarriage. The only photos released so far are from that first flight. Supersonic testing is due to start soon and you would expect more than one test flight before that is attempted. Concorde took 41 flights but realistically you might expect 10 test flights for the XB-1.
I think the economic case for a supersonic airliner has been obviated by the rise of Wi-Fi over oceans and luxurious first-class suites. You can get work done online, eat luxurious food, and sleep on a bed on an overnight subsonic flight, probably for less money than a hypothetical Boom ticket with far fewer amenities.
They probably have are almost complete with the first Overture as we all speak now doesn't take that long to assemble a full aircraft body as they unveiled the new flight deck and display screens already I won't be long before the Company Rolls it out of the factory please be positive people I'm sick and tired of negativity give them a chance to get on their feat
It's poignant that in some important technologies, we seem to have achieved a pinnacle in years past. The moonlandings not repeated in over 50 years. Hovercraft trips across the channel. Supersonic passenger flight. Perhaps these pinnacles happen when we 'overshoot' what is really practical within the laws physics, aerodynamics, material sciences etc. We can just barely get humans to the moon in one shot and only then with a massive chemical propulsion rocket. The hovercraft skirt just can't take the beating for very long. The energy demands, aerodynamics and physical stresses of Supersonic flight become overwhelming and limiting in practical terms. We do see different trajectories however, too. In computing, the transistor opened so many possibilities over the vacuum tube. And the integrated circuit over the transistor. So, perhaps Supersonic passenger travel too will require revolutionary advances to ever become practical and routine.
The need for speed will result in a fuelish aircraft and an expensive passenger seat. No widebodies in this fleet. Complainers won't allow overflights here in the US mainland. Also, what will be the effective range? I only see it being used for intermediate overseas flights. Interesting video.
Personally I think if the regulatory challenges to get supersonic flight legalized can be overcome, SSTs could be a thing. However, I think it's most successful market is a niche one, that being corporate timeshare jets. The problem is that the market is too small to make it worth the legal expenses to get it legalized. So if Boom can get it legalized, they may still fail to be financially successful with airliners. However, if they can get supersonic flight legalized it may be the beginning of bringing back true civilian supersonic flight.
There is a risk with anything but I believe is worth the money and capital to build and should proceed forward with I really want to eventually see the plane flying and move forward give it a chance there is no time to be negative that gets you nowhere there is no such thing as Can't yes you can do it those slower subsonic planes are going to get old and are too slow to get anywhere times are charging we need this faster more fuel and Earth friendly plane if I was an Airline Company I would welcome Boom Overture with open Arms and Buy the planes as a pilot one day I would really love to fly it I say let's move forward with it and complete this new aircraft and give it a welcoming chance because you can't stop positive progress ❤❤❤
Thus far just about everyone in this comment section has been wrong about Booms ability to progress in supersonic flight…Even the guy narrating this video… stay tuned folks
They do, but it's less powerful than the original one they planned to use, which is why they completely redesigned the overture from being a trijet to a quad jet
@halcyon1017 GE didn't back out, Rolls Royce backed out, GE is still working on the engine with Boom. They aren't leading the project, however, as it is being led by Florida Turbine Technologies (FTT).
It’s both interesting and tremendously disappointing that Rolls Royce have again let down a U.S. commercial aircraft manufacturer. They did the same thing to Lockheed who had entrusted them as the sole power plant provider for the L-1011. Thanks to RR's incompetent business acumen and near collapse (if not for government intervention), they delayed the introduction of the L-1011 by years which saw the aircraft’s orders lost to McDonnell Douglas and a few to Boeing. Because of RR, Lockheed’s airframe which was far superior to the DC-10 never saw the success it deserved - consequently Lockheed vowed never to be involved with the commercial aircraft market again When considering their history of aircraft like the L-748, L-1048 - Constellations and Super Constellations respectively amongst other variants, the L-188 Electras etc it was quite a loss of what other potentially impressive aircraft they might have brought to the fleets of airlines worldwide. Despite the massive costs Boom has incurred redesigning their project thanks to RR's failure to commit, they have quite likely saved themselves from an unknown myriad of problems down the track. I hope GE will reliably help them take this aircraft to success with excellence in technology and craftsmanship. RR are not the quality manufacturer they once were and do not deserve the prestige most associate with their name.
There most certainly is a market for this aircraft type! The same doubts could have been argued for the First Class Suites product along with the hefty airfares they demand - yet look at the success that product enjoys. Despite the claims, it is not the alleged ‘productivity' subsequent to "a good night’s sleep enroute", it is the exclusivity, reduction of inconvenience associated with long haul travel, along with the preferential treatment and prestige. British Airways enjoyed very healthy profits year after year with their prestigious Concorde inflight product. Thie Boom Overture's speed, convenience, and potential inflight service product will not attract those who fly Business Class or below, it is aimed at those who travel First Class, along with former or current private jet owners/co-leasers who can not justify the myriad of exorbitant operating costs yet retain their need/desire for the convenience and exclusivity. The market absolutely exists on the right city pairs - IF done well. As an extremely relevant example both Air France and British Airways operated the same aircraft type, Concordes, on a nearly identical route network and timetable, yet Air France was far less successful because their inferior product paled by comparison with that of British Airways. BA was ultimately forced to ground their SST fleet due to Airbus announcing they would no longer produce parts or support the service maintenance of Concordes. Suspiciously the Airbus announcement followed Air France’s announcement that they were not placing their fleet back into service. It could be debated AF felt they could no longer compete with BA, especially with their fantastic upgrades on an already superior product, therefore AF took the opportunity to cut their losses and withdraw from that specific market - or possibly other rationales, who knows. Because of their confidence in their product and market, British Airways had spent millions on a complete cabin refit and inflight service product - from tableware to seats and bathrooms - BA was in the process of upgrading their supersonic product and extremely eager to return their fleet to operations. Irrefutably the market for this type of air travel still exists, multiple research outcomes have proven that there is greater value in post-flight productivity with respect to those who have had a short comfortable flight vs those who have been exposed to the scientifically proven inflight stressors and fatigue producing factors associated with much longer flights such as the exposure to noise (aircraft and cabin activity), vibration, and especially hypoxia over extended periods and irrespective of whether they were in a lie-flat First Class suite or not. Should this proposed supersonic aircraft succeed to market, and provided those who operate it design their inflight service product and cabin furnishings/amenities well, having learned from the AF vs BA SST inflight service, soft and hard product models - they will undeniably and absolutely succeed.
Remember why Concorde never really took off as a mass market plane? SONIC BOOM!! People don't like that noise. Not then not now. No amount of money can change peoples aversion against the noise. The only logic fix, as with Concorde, would be only to fly it over the ocean(s). How many flights are there from any coast to another for a whole bunch of Overture's to fly lucratively.
Wont happen, last I heard there is no workable engine for it now, or planned. But I'm sure they will take your investment money, after all it's run by an aerospace accountant. Look no further than Boeing! Sarcastic AF!
Actually, they just start hard casting the physical parts for the fuel system testing and are hoping to start the core and hard stand testing within 18 months.
They’ll make headlines alright, when they are exposed as the biggest scam since Enron and Theranos combined times 2. Can’t believe they have fooled so many people.
The main problem is the same as with Concord - does anybody need it? Who (how many) paxes will be ready to pay additional $1000s to reduce travel time for, ummm, 10 hours max? Sydney-Europe flight, the longest real trip with significant demand on this planet, takes 24h with all transfers and costs $1000, what can offer SS plane? 15h with the same single transfer somewhere in the same Gulf? And price tag, ummm, $3000 (science fiction)? I can not gain $2000 for 10h of seating in chair other way then refuse to fly SS. So only top tier left, where money are corporate and lifetime is personal. But this market is not for 150+ pax planes, its much smaller, and competition there is not for time but for luxury. If you can afford to get sleeping cabin for the same money - it will be flying hotel and it saves the same time as it allows not to go to sleep immediately on arrival.
Even in a First Class suite the quality of sleep is nothing like a sleep of the same duration in a hotel bed. Primarily due to factors such as mild hypoxia, noise (aircraft and cabin), vibration and a whole host of other factors which have been thoroughly researched and scientifically proven. Despite this there still remains a market for this degree of luxury and the majority of it is not the claimed productivity of elite business travellers. Mostly it is to reduce the inconvenience surrounding long haul travelling, along with the privacy and a healthy dose of prestige. There most certainly is an untapped market eager to reduce their time stuck onboard an aircraft irrespective of the luxurious surroundings. This is the private jet market who co-lease with companies such as NetJets etc, there are plenty with deep pockets, and many who will be drawn to these opportunities for the prestige and enjoyment of travelling in an exclusive group of likeminded individuals. Just as there is a market for First Class suites, chartering or co-leasing private jets (including former owners of the type who were overwhelmed by the expenses associated ie maintenance, crew costs, FBO fees, fuel, insurance, etc vs the amount of hours the aircraft is operated making for enormously expensive flights when it is used), there is absolutely a market who will patronise this travel option along with many more who will be attracted to it once the benefits are realised, and of course the many curious who will save or borrow for the experience. Air France's Concorde operations did not produce much profit because their inflight service and soft product was nothing spectacular. British Airways however did make a significant profit with their SST fleet and their inflight product was in an entirely unique and luxurious, extremely polished, class of its own. This is evidenced by the fact while during the fuel tank reinforcement installations while the fleet was grounded, BA took the opportunity to invest millions in a complete redesign of their entire Concorde inflight product - from tableware to seats and bathrooms - at least one, perhaps two aircraft had been refitted by the time of the decision had been proposed to withdraw them from service. Their decision was begrudgingly made largely as a consequence of Airbus announcing they would no longer support or produce parts for the aircraft, a responsibility they inherited with the absorption of Aerospatiale. Considering the Airbus and Air France codependent relationship, it is hardly surprising that Airbus "pulled the pin" on the Concorde fleets once Air France lost their appetite for placing their fleet back in service - after they had single handedly destroyed its flawless safety and operational excellence reputation. An absolutely atrocious move really because those airframes had very few cycles or hours on them, they had years of service life remaining. So, long story short, there absolutely is a well placed market for this commercial transport option, and almost certainly several other markets which will be stimulated once (if) it enters service - provided the airlines have a well designed product and service the city pairs that will see the most loyalty for it. If all they offer is a Premium Economy, or even Business Class type service product there will not be the loyalty or demand it could foster. The Air France vs British Airways Concorde product disparity and subsequent profitability is absolute irrefutable evidence of that. It has to be exclusive, prestigious, and country club like to attract those who will ensure its success - just as SQ First Suites did which a few others plagiarised. The market is there to support it - if well executed.
@@sydyidanton5873 you combined together old brave times when any air travel was Elite Luxury, mass transport flows of modern times, private jets with their ability to fly when and where Fat Pax needs not sheduled, market for inflated artificial luxury and so on. Altogether it creates the vision that you can sell 100+ seats on intercontinental route several times a day for luxe (comparable to private jet pricetag) money. Unfortunately this vision is false, as all its parts can not be combined together in reality. If it is sold as luxury - it is 10s, not 100s, paxes. If it is sold as fast - there must be no delays including half a day waiting for the single scheduled flight. If it is sold as mass product - it must be not 10 times more expensive than existing economy livestock haulage.
If this is to become reality major consideration will have to be given to the workforce assembling this advanced jet. A dedicated/advanced/ educatable and moral workforce will be the issue that will make or break this aircraft. I have no doubt that given the time and money required this project can succeed. Boing is now proving that its workforce is having trouble, major trouble building subsonic aircraft. This is concerning, a real worry! Airbus with its European and Montreal based workforce seems to be the quality assembly leader. I'd be looking at assembling this aircraft in Montreal as surplus assembly space is available but also a workforce without the major personal and social problems of many people in US cities. Work culture within the factory and the culture surrounding the workplace is very important. It may be an advantage for this to be build in facilities that mainly operate in the French language? Needless to say in a Supersonic Aircraft fit and finish of all components within the unified structure of the aircraft must be perfect. Less than perfect fit will equal disaster transitioning to supersonic and flying at supersonic speeds. No more Boeing style brute force, forcing the wings to fit the body of the aircraft! In this new technological era quality will have to be Job 1. The morality necessary to stop the assembly when trouble occurs will be important in the new supersonic civil jet world.
Hopefully BOOM will have more productive employees than those featured in the animation, aimlessly driving about a fleet of forklift devices devoid of any loads or apparent purpose! The Overture is a great concept - I sincerely wish them well they absolutely deserve success. As for Delta, who care what the treasonous mongrels' intentions are, they certainly have no loyalty to, or support for, American aircraft manufacturers!
Composite-bodied, fly-by-wire, HUD, glass cockpit, TCAS, EGPWS, auto-land aircraft are not 1960’s tech. The tech that yielded 27 accidents per million departures is not what delivers today’s 0.8 per million departures accident rate.
@rdspam thank you for sharing that. I was in aviation 22 years as a painter of the runways & Memphis Shelby County Airport Authority 11 years . I also was a flight ✈️ Attendant for AA 11 years. I never even thought about that kind of technology, just the shape of the planes.Thank you again. I fortunately did 🎶 music as a hobby on the side all those years & still do today. Kenny Nash "DESIRE" please enjoy my 🎶 music~ Kenny
Time for Elon Musk to invest in this, if he does credibility, if not no credibility. He is the visionary and if he is not interested, that might say a lot. Maybe Bezos might jump in to block Musk. If neither of these two show interest, thar]t will say a lot.
Typical, didnt want concorde,wouldn't back concorde, insisted on breaking up all jigs yet here we have something with a few tweeks that looks like concorde.
They'll probably get 80 percent done before a merger and completion of the 1st Overture
Sounds about right. Too risky otherwise 😅
I reckon they might do it,The cockpit is being unveiled in a few days now! But they still need an engine and other parts
o need for it, Concorde (as much as I love it) was killed by the Internet and Lie-down seats. You get in, dine, sleep on a reasonable bed, you are there, who really needs to get there quicker?
Rich people, or people who travel a lot, doesnt really need 100% brainpower to know this honestly.
I do!
It will still have the same problems Concorde had, not allowed to fly overland because of sonic boom issues, price of seats, look who bought Concorde? it was foisted on to BA and AF because they were govt. owned at the time so had to fly it out of national prestige. These glossy CGI presentations look good but the reality will be a lot different.
I live about 35 miles from where this is. We are in the flight path because rarely does an afternoon or night go by without a jet circling. I hope I'm still alive to one day see it's first flight.
I'LL take a wait & see on this one
Wishing this company success !
Has the XB-1 N990XB demonstrator made is 2nd flight yet? After the first gear-down flight in March, it was said the second flight would test systems including the undercarriage. The only photos released so far are from that first flight. Supersonic testing is due to start soon and you would expect more than one test flight before that is attempted. Concorde took 41 flights but realistically you might expect 10 test flights for the XB-1.
“planned for later in 2024.”. Boom has a very long history of “planned for later”.
Just done flight two. Gear up.
@@zrepeels must be trying to raise more capital.
I think the economic case for a supersonic airliner has been obviated by the rise of Wi-Fi over oceans and luxurious first-class suites. You can get work done online, eat luxurious food, and sleep on a bed on an overnight subsonic flight, probably for less money than a hypothetical Boom ticket with far fewer amenities.
Why does that look like Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020?
So, 10 years in they have a single-seat, single-engine prototype - and a factory with "plans to expand." I'm convinced...
They probably have are almost complete with the first Overture as we all speak now doesn't take that long to assemble a full aircraft body as they unveiled the new flight deck and display screens already I won't be long before the Company Rolls it out of the factory please be positive people I'm sick and tired of negativity give them a chance to get on their feat
It's poignant that in some important technologies, we seem to have achieved a pinnacle in years past. The moonlandings not repeated in over 50 years. Hovercraft trips across the channel. Supersonic passenger flight. Perhaps these pinnacles happen when we 'overshoot' what is really practical within the laws physics, aerodynamics, material sciences etc. We can just barely get humans to the moon in one shot and only then with a massive chemical propulsion rocket. The hovercraft skirt just can't take the beating for very long. The energy demands, aerodynamics and physical stresses of Supersonic flight become overwhelming and limiting in practical terms.
We do see different trajectories however, too. In computing, the transistor opened so many possibilities over the vacuum tube. And the integrated circuit over the transistor.
So, perhaps Supersonic passenger travel too will require revolutionary advances to ever become practical and routine.
The need for speed will result in a fuelish aircraft and an expensive passenger seat. No widebodies in this fleet. Complainers won't allow overflights here in the US mainland. Also, what will be the effective range? I only see it being used for intermediate overseas flights. Interesting video.
Personally I think if the regulatory challenges to get supersonic flight legalized can be overcome, SSTs could be a thing. However, I think it's most successful market is a niche one, that being corporate timeshare jets. The problem is that the market is too small to make it worth the legal expenses to get it legalized. So if Boom can get it legalized, they may still fail to be financially successful with airliners. However, if they can get supersonic flight legalized it may be the beginning of bringing back true civilian supersonic flight.
There is a risk with anything but I believe is worth the money and capital to build and should proceed forward with I really want to eventually see the plane flying and move forward give it a chance there is no time to be negative that gets you nowhere there is no such thing as Can't yes you can do it those slower subsonic planes are going to get old and are too slow to get anywhere times are charging we need this faster more fuel and Earth friendly plane if I was an Airline Company I would welcome Boom Overture with open Arms and Buy the planes as a pilot one day I would really love to fly it I say let's move forward with it and complete this new aircraft and give it a welcoming chance because you can't stop positive progress ❤❤❤
Thus far just about everyone in this comment section has been wrong about Booms ability to progress in supersonic flight…Even the guy narrating this video… stay tuned folks
Do we miss Concorde ?
Boom is great at CGI.
Do they have an engine now?
They do, but it's less powerful than the original one they planned to use, which is why they completely redesigned the overture from being a trijet to a quad jet
@@Prodagist Right but that was GE that came up with the 4 engine solution, was it not? And then GE backed out.
@halcyon1017 GE didn't back out, Rolls Royce backed out, GE is still working on the engine with Boom. They aren't leading the project, however, as it is being led by Florida Turbine Technologies (FTT).
@@Prodagist I see. thanks!
It’s both interesting and tremendously disappointing that Rolls Royce have again let down a U.S. commercial aircraft manufacturer. They did the same thing to Lockheed who had entrusted them as the sole power plant provider for the L-1011. Thanks to RR's incompetent business acumen and near collapse (if not for government intervention), they delayed the introduction of the L-1011 by years which saw the aircraft’s orders lost to McDonnell Douglas and a few to Boeing.
Because of RR, Lockheed’s airframe which was far superior to the DC-10 never saw the success it deserved - consequently Lockheed vowed never to be involved with the commercial aircraft market again
When considering their history of aircraft like the L-748, L-1048 - Constellations and Super Constellations respectively amongst other variants, the L-188 Electras etc it was quite a loss of what other potentially impressive aircraft they might have brought to the fleets of airlines worldwide.
Despite the massive costs Boom has incurred redesigning their project thanks to RR's failure to commit, they have quite likely saved themselves from an unknown myriad of problems down the track. I hope GE will reliably help them take this aircraft to success with excellence in technology and craftsmanship.
RR are not the quality manufacturer they once were and do not deserve the prestige most associate with their name.
I don't think we're ready for supersonic travel for a second time yet
Not even a chance! I will put money on it. Any odds or takers?
Interesting company name
Ed Bastion is in love with Airbus. If this was Airbus he would be all over it.
Surprised that many sign on .. the need to get to those points of interest quickly would not be a huge market . Then the cost of a seat. 10,000+
This simply won't happen because there is no realistic cost/benefit for it do so.
There most certainly is a market for this aircraft type! The same doubts could have been argued for the First Class Suites product along with the hefty airfares they demand - yet look at the success that product enjoys. Despite the claims, it is not the alleged ‘productivity' subsequent to "a good night’s sleep enroute", it is the exclusivity, reduction of inconvenience associated with long haul travel, along with the preferential treatment and prestige.
British Airways enjoyed very healthy profits year after year with their prestigious Concorde inflight product.
Thie Boom Overture's speed, convenience, and potential inflight service product will not attract those who fly Business Class or below, it is aimed at those who travel First Class, along with former or current private jet owners/co-leasers who can not justify the myriad of exorbitant operating costs yet retain their need/desire for the convenience and exclusivity.
The market absolutely exists on the right city pairs - IF done well.
As an extremely relevant example both Air France and British Airways operated the same aircraft type, Concordes, on a nearly identical route network and timetable, yet Air France was far less successful because their inferior product paled by comparison with that of British Airways. BA was ultimately forced to ground their SST fleet due to Airbus announcing they would no longer produce parts or support the service maintenance of Concordes. Suspiciously the Airbus announcement followed Air France’s announcement that they were not placing their fleet back into service. It could be debated AF felt they could no longer compete with BA, especially with their fantastic upgrades on an already superior product, therefore AF took the opportunity to cut their losses and withdraw from that specific market - or possibly other rationales, who knows.
Because of their confidence in their product and market, British Airways had spent millions on a complete cabin refit and inflight service product - from tableware to seats and bathrooms - BA was in the process of upgrading their supersonic product and extremely eager to return their fleet to operations.
Irrefutably the market for this type of air travel still exists, multiple research outcomes have proven that there is greater value in post-flight productivity with respect to those who have had a short comfortable flight vs those who have been exposed to the scientifically proven inflight stressors and fatigue producing factors associated with much longer flights such as the exposure to noise (aircraft and cabin activity), vibration, and especially hypoxia over extended periods and irrespective of whether they were in a lie-flat First Class suite or not.
Should this proposed supersonic aircraft succeed to market, and provided those who operate it design their inflight service product and cabin furnishings/amenities well, having learned from the AF vs BA SST inflight service, soft and hard product models - they will undeniably and absolutely succeed.
Looks like a large pax carrying Hustler.
B58. Beautiful plane. And a similar look.
Remember why Concorde never really took off as a mass market plane? SONIC BOOM!!
People don't like that noise. Not then not now.
No amount of money can change peoples aversion against the noise.
The only logic fix, as with Concorde, would be only to fly it over the ocean(s).
How many flights are there from any coast to another for a whole bunch of Overture's to fly lucratively.
Yeah i think it would be good if they made a plane that can fly around a the world in 1h I get it’s kinda impossible for passenger planes but
Wont happen, last I heard there is no workable engine for it now, or planned. But I'm sure they will take your investment money, after all it's run by an aerospace accountant. Look no further than Boeing! Sarcastic AF!
Actually, they just start hard casting the physical parts for the fuel system testing and are hoping to start the core and hard stand testing within 18 months.
They’ll make headlines alright, when they are exposed as the biggest scam since Enron and Theranos combined times 2.
Can’t believe they have fooled so many people.
The main problem is the same as with Concord - does anybody need it? Who (how many) paxes will be ready to pay additional $1000s to reduce travel time for, ummm, 10 hours max? Sydney-Europe flight, the longest real trip with significant demand on this planet, takes 24h with all transfers and costs $1000, what can offer SS plane? 15h with the same single transfer somewhere in the same Gulf? And price tag, ummm, $3000 (science fiction)? I can not gain $2000 for 10h of seating in chair other way then refuse to fly SS.
So only top tier left, where money are corporate and lifetime is personal. But this market is not for 150+ pax planes, its much smaller, and competition there is not for time but for luxury. If you can afford to get sleeping cabin for the same money - it will be flying hotel and it saves the same time as it allows not to go to sleep immediately on arrival.
Even in a First Class suite the quality of sleep is nothing like a sleep of the same duration in a hotel bed. Primarily due to factors such as mild hypoxia, noise (aircraft and cabin), vibration and a whole host of other factors which have been thoroughly researched and scientifically proven. Despite this there still remains a market for this degree of luxury and the majority of it is not the claimed productivity of elite business travellers. Mostly it is to reduce the inconvenience surrounding long haul travelling, along with the privacy and a healthy dose of prestige.
There most certainly is an untapped market eager to reduce their time stuck onboard an aircraft irrespective of the luxurious surroundings.
This is the private jet market who co-lease with companies such as NetJets etc, there are plenty with deep pockets, and many who will be drawn to these opportunities for the prestige and enjoyment of travelling in an exclusive group of likeminded individuals.
Just as there is a market for First Class suites, chartering or co-leasing private jets (including former owners of the type who were overwhelmed by the expenses associated ie maintenance, crew costs, FBO fees, fuel, insurance, etc vs the amount of hours the aircraft is operated making for enormously expensive flights when it is used), there is absolutely a market who will patronise this travel option along with many more who will be attracted to it once the benefits are realised, and of course the many curious who will save or borrow for the experience.
Air France's Concorde operations did not produce much profit because their inflight service and soft product was nothing spectacular. British Airways however did make a significant profit with their SST fleet and their inflight product was in an entirely unique and luxurious, extremely polished, class of its own.
This is evidenced by the fact while during the fuel tank reinforcement installations while the fleet was grounded, BA took the opportunity to invest millions in a complete redesign of their entire Concorde inflight product - from tableware to seats and bathrooms - at least one, perhaps two aircraft had been refitted by the time of the decision had been proposed to withdraw them from service.
Their decision was begrudgingly made largely as a consequence of Airbus announcing they would no longer support or produce parts for the aircraft, a responsibility they inherited with the absorption of Aerospatiale. Considering the Airbus and Air France codependent relationship, it is hardly surprising that Airbus "pulled the pin" on the Concorde fleets once Air France lost their appetite for placing their fleet back in service - after they had single handedly destroyed its flawless safety and operational excellence reputation.
An absolutely atrocious move really because those airframes had very few cycles or hours on them, they had years of service life remaining.
So, long story short, there absolutely is a well placed market for this commercial transport option, and almost certainly several other markets which will be stimulated once (if) it enters service - provided the airlines have a well designed product and service the city pairs that will see the most loyalty for it.
If all they offer is a Premium Economy, or even Business Class type service product there will not be the loyalty or demand it could foster. The Air France vs British Airways Concorde product disparity and subsequent profitability is absolute irrefutable evidence of that.
It has to be exclusive, prestigious, and country club like to attract those who will ensure its success - just as SQ First Suites did which a few others plagiarised. The market is there to support it - if well executed.
@@sydyidanton5873 you combined together old brave times when any air travel was Elite Luxury, mass transport flows of modern times, private jets with their ability to fly when and where Fat Pax needs not sheduled, market for inflated artificial luxury and so on. Altogether it creates the vision that you can sell 100+ seats on intercontinental route several times a day for luxe (comparable to private jet pricetag) money. Unfortunately this vision is false, as all its parts can not be combined together in reality. If it is sold as luxury - it is 10s, not 100s, paxes. If it is sold as fast - there must be no delays including half a day waiting for the single scheduled flight. If it is sold as mass product - it must be not 10 times more expensive than existing economy livestock haulage.
Looks better than Boeing garbage.
I don’t think it will fly or get off the ground
If this is to become reality major consideration will have to be given to the workforce assembling this advanced jet. A dedicated/advanced/ educatable and moral workforce will be the issue that will make or break this aircraft. I have no doubt that given the time and money required this project can succeed. Boing is now proving that its workforce is having trouble, major trouble building subsonic aircraft. This is concerning, a real worry! Airbus with its European and Montreal based workforce seems to be the quality assembly leader. I'd be looking at assembling this aircraft in Montreal as surplus assembly space is available but also a workforce without the major personal and social problems of many people in US cities. Work culture within the factory and the culture surrounding the workplace is very important. It may be an advantage for this to be build in facilities that mainly operate in the French language? Needless to say in a Supersonic Aircraft fit and finish of all components within the unified structure of the aircraft must be perfect. Less than perfect fit will equal disaster transitioning to supersonic and flying at supersonic speeds. No more Boeing style brute force, forcing the wings to fit the body of the aircraft! In this new technological era quality will have to be Job 1. The morality necessary to stop the assembly when trouble occurs will be important in the new supersonic civil jet world.
Lots of hype.
Any actual photos? With all this animation; it appears to be a giant scam.
Hopefully BOOM will have more productive employees than those featured in the animation, aimlessly driving about a fleet of forklift devices devoid of any loads or apparent purpose!
The Overture is a great concept - I sincerely wish them well they absolutely deserve success.
As for Delta, who care what the treasonous mongrels' intentions are, they certainly have no loyalty to, or support for, American aircraft manufacturers!
It's almost 2025 & we are still flying on 1960s technology.
Composite-bodied, fly-by-wire, HUD, glass cockpit, TCAS, EGPWS, auto-land aircraft are not 1960’s tech. The tech that yielded 27 accidents per million departures is not what delivers today’s 0.8 per million departures accident rate.
@rdspam thank you for sharing that. I was in aviation 22 years as a painter of the runways & Memphis Shelby County Airport Authority 11 years . I also was a flight ✈️ Attendant for AA 11 years. I never even thought about that kind of technology, just the shape of the planes.Thank you again. I fortunately did 🎶 music as a hobby on the side all those years & still do today. Kenny Nash "DESIRE" please enjoy my 🎶 music~ Kenny
what about the engines ? they dont have any ..
Yes, Absolutely!
@@sydyidanton5873: SYMPHONY????
Time for Elon Musk to invest in this, if he does credibility, if not no credibility. He is the visionary and if he is not interested, that might say a lot. Maybe Bezos might jump in to block Musk. If neither of these two show interest, thar]t will say a lot.
It will not do well. To inefficient, and not enough seats.
Typical, didnt want concorde,wouldn't back concorde, insisted on breaking up all jigs yet here we have something with a few tweeks that looks like concorde.