Science may not prove that life after death exists, but NDE indirectly proves it when patients in hospitals wander through the building and describe things, locations and places impossible for them to be known, which was(ere) confirmed by others.
I recently had a morning dream of dribbling a soccer ball that was so real that when I awoke I immediately bent up to look at my foot........confused as to if my foot was moving or not. I think little dreams like this prove we leave or bodies and are somewhere else.
I look forward to the return to my true home with joy and great anticipation. Knowing that we never die gives a deeper meaning and enrichment to this brief physical experience I’m enjoying right now. Thank you, Dr. Hogan for reaffirming this truth for us all.
I believe the spirit exits the body and lingers. How long it lingers for? I’m unsure. Maybe temporary, maybe forever. My dad passed away and I asked (in my mind) for a sign. One of the lightbulbs blew. Coincidence? Maybe. But this was a new lightbulb replaced 2 weeks prior to my dad’s passing. My father in law when he passed was also sad and sudden. He stayed in our home in the 3rd bedroom one month before he passed. A few days after he passed, the smoke alarm went off in that room. I remember walking in expecting smoke, fire, or dust. There was nothing. The smoke alarm had never ever gone off randomly. I do believe the afterlife have a way manipulating electrical activity. I go back to my original statement. I do not know how long their spirit lingers for but I’m convinced the spirit moves up and out. To where I do not know.
Some people stay with the body for awhile. They soon go on to the next life. Most people go immediately into the afterlife, some with a short period of sleep. They then awaken among their loved ones.
We have detailed descriptions of what happens to the person after leaving the body. Read these articles: seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/3-people-now-in-the-afterlife-describe-what-happened-after-they-died/, seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/four-people-in-the-afterlife-describe-their-transition-experiences/, seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/what-happens-in-the-period-of-time-after-our-body-dies/
They will not because there is too much narrow minded views and an ignorance that science provides a literal answer to such questions and that such a scientist would likely be cast aside and potentially lose funding and therefore their livelihoods. Additionally, Notions of the afterlife are intrinsically tied to religion and that (at least in the western world) has rescinded dramatically in the last 50 or so years and therefore far less people are willing to accept such views and therefore would raise perhaps unwanted attention on any person of science to make bold claims of the afterlife. For me, Whenever i communicate with a scientist with an abject disbelief in an afterlife, we still cannot escape the "infinite regress" problem and this is less than satisfactory for me...
It's happening, slowly but steadily. New discoveries in quantum mechanics and other areas of research are opening the door to their understanding. But it will still take time. As Max Planck, the father of quantum mechanics, said, "We can't expect the old dogs to change their spots. They will have to die and a new group of young scientists will arrive at groundbreaking understanding."
Because 'they', the powers that be in this World (for now) want to keep us ignorant. When 'they' are taken down, and it Will happen (in God's time), this subject will become known worldwide eventually and we will be living in a better World.
Impressive list. Thank you. I feel annoyed at some of the commenters. I hope you have thick skin, because if your channel takes off, it will just attract more of the standard atheist/materialist skeptic types. Such is the nature of TH-cam comment sections...
All people are on some stage of spiritual development in growing to have love and compassion. Those who are on a low level when they leave the Earth live with others at a low level, so it isn't a pleasant place. But it isn't a hell. It is a place of reflection and growth. Watch this TH-cam on the hell myth: th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html
There is no Hell, Aussiegirl. It is a mythology that was created by the Christian church in the first two centuries CE. You'll notice that there's no mention of it in the earliest Christian writings: Acts of the Apostles, the Gospel of Mark, and Paul's epistles. The reason those early texts don't mention it is that it wasn't yet a myth shared among the early Christians. Watch our video at th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html. As for evil people, yes, there are evil people in the world. But they're evil because of all the evil influences in the world that brought the to their evil nature. They are at some stage of spiritual growth. They will continue to grow in the next life and will emerge out of their evil natures eventually.
A questions that keeps on puzzling me during this existence is: Do any of the afterlife spirits ever talk about any form of a reincarnation trap? Or is this a question which is simply never asked? Cause myself, i find this theory very much plausible.
we see that consciousness continues existing on earth after death. so yes it can be possible that reincarnation is true. and if you think about it, most animals and plants are forced to suffer in domestication where they are genetically altered and lack natural selection. they also have no reproductive rights. please understand that over 99% of animals are factory farmed and most plants are genetically modified and these changes were done without knowing animal and plant physiology. people continue to have kids in large amounts to keep the abuse going. world population clock is only ever increasing.
I've spoken to many Spirit people, and no, no mention of a soul trap. They ALL say Earth is a great place to learn and experience and grow spiritually and learn about love, and much more... Yes, it's one of the more advanced spheres, planes but it's still a popular place to come. We are not forced to reincarnate. There are a lot of good things on this sphere. Each batch of Souls come to earth to try and make it better for the next lot, but can get caught up in the Game! This is my understanding.
@@anneb5603 if you "loved" other organisms they wouldnt be forced to suffer into factory farms. and yes we are forced to reincarnate. there doesnt have to be consent when an organism comes to life.
@@infiniteworfare5089 I believe it's humans that are responsible for the shocking treatment of the animals and plants on this world, not the afterlife.
@@seekreality3023 I have tried everything, I simply cannot do it. I either fall asleep or at most have a dream about having a lucid dream (but don't actually have one). Everything else to do with my sixth sense is cut off as well. The only thing I can still do is once in a while my dreams will come true. I have a feeling that some force is blocking me off from accessing anything. It's worth mentioning that *something* has my entire life pre-scripted, and if I attempt to go a different direction then everything will conspire to push me back on the path "they" want me on. I feel robbed of my free will. *Something* is controlling me, I know it. But I don't know why.
Like a near-death experience, astral projection is a Gift of the Spirit. It takes thousands of spirits to collectively generate the needed level of transcendent energy to enable the fleshbound soul to temporarily astral project. Many years ago I was a student of the Monroe Institute and purchased the Hemi-Synch tapes. If it were all that easy to leave the flesh, we would all take AP 101-102 in high school and fly around regularly. Avadar on Quora. 😊
Best time to astral project is when you return from you dream state where your mind is awake but your body still asleep (paralysed). This is when you can OBE very easily. You just WILL (intent) your way to the location you wanted to go like moving towards a window in your room. I don't know how else to explain this. It is like asking, how do you walk to the window? Well, you just walk to the window by intention which give rise to electrical impulses to your muscle in your legs. You don't need to understand in details exactly how every parts of your body that are involved in the process of walking for you to be able to walk.
@@NarutoUzumaki-om1jw Doesn't work for me. Even when I'm in sleep paralysis (which I cannot do intentionally) I either feel myself move but don't actually, or I enter a pseudo-lucid dream. I am not thinking coherently. Just willing things doesn't work at all.
You are very wise and open minded not inviting any Mater Bhiku to talk in this viedo. After life and rebirth is just a blink of eyes in a no ended life cycle of human beings ignorance . It was the Buddha's own experience after uncountable death and rebirth and discovered that. According to Buddha, birth and death is a phenomenon in the universe like we saw the rainbow in the sky at different time and location. So it can not be said as real or unreal. Scientists agreed with some sort of possibilities but still can not be proved. Buddha suggested that if one want to experience the deathless. One have to put faith in his Dharma and practice accordingly. And you will learned that what is real eventually.
It's a matter of semantics. People use "soul" in different ways. We understand from the sources in the afterlife that the soul is the part of each of us as individuals that is a part of the Higher Self. The soul is involved in planning the life and steers the individual through life. As such it is integral to who we are, but has all knowledge of the planning and what is happening in our lives. Our mind grows in Earth school to have personality, memories, skills, attitudes, and all the rest of what makes us who we are. Our mind is limited to what we learn in Earth School, so it doesn't have all the knowledge the soul does. The individual we become, then stays that individual throughout eternity. It's difficult for us to differentiate between two parts of us that are wholly us. But the soul and our mind are one. It's just that our soul knows all and is involved in guiding us through life. Our mind knows only what has been learned on Earth.`
From a biblical perspective, the mind is part of the soul. Watchman Nee wrote on this in The Tripartite Man". We are Body, soul and spirit. The mind, emotions and will comprise our soul. Our conscience and God consciousness is part of our spirit.
No, all of these researchers did the work of investigating afterlife communications and learned they are genuine encounters with people living in the afterlife. They didn't make statements based on their intuition.
When we are born on Earth, we begin as new individuals, tabula rasas, or blank slates. We develop our personalities on Earth. Then we carry the individual we are into the rest of eternity.
@@Enzo012 If a person's life was planned, that person will be born into Earth life through some family. If the person who was to be born is aborted or miscarried, that person is born in the afterlife and grows up there. Watch these TH-cams: th-cam.com/video/gKPpq9U09j0/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/1Zc4DvlD1Xw/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/rKxjpM6VZXY/w-d-xo.html
@@seekreality3023 No, that is where I disagree with you. We do not come blank slates. We come with personalities and which are then further developed through earth life experiences. All these personalities are then carried over to the next life. Note that personality is not something that requires you to 'remember', it is just 'intuition' or the knowing brought forth from previous lives experiences which shaped your 'personality' and will continue to change lives after lives.
@@seekreality3023 So, there is no life between lives, no reincarnation? Are you saying past life memories and reincarnation studies that claim to have produced evidence, such as those carried out at the University of Virginia are all mistaken?
Then surely there has to be an acknowledgement of the existence of heaven and hell and that many people go to hell. Dead people can't communicate with the living, it's demons masquerading as ghosts.
Where is your proof that the dead can not communicate with the living ? If it comes to that, where is your proof that there is such a thing as a demon ?
Your loved ones are alive and well in the next life. They want to communicate with you. There is no hell. That is a superstition that grew in the first two centuries of the Christian church. Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html. As for demons masquerading as ghosts, that is mythology that isn't even in the Jewish or Christian Bibles. It came from Islam. The demons are called hamzaads. It's just mythology.
The greatest discoveries in science have happened since the eighteenth century. And the discoveries about the life after this life have happened since the middle of the eighteenth century. We apply what science has taught us from the discoveries since Newton. The fact that they were discovered two or three centuries ago doesn't invalidate them. In the same way, the great understandings of the life after this life have been in the past century and a half.
@@chirpywiggins5796 We have the proof. It is in my book Evidence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt You Will Never Die and on our website at seekreality.com. You just have to read it.
@@seekreality3023 Contemporary scientists have made many new discoveries and theories along these lines. Scientists such as Donald Hoffman, Robert Lanza, Stuart Hameroff, Sam Parnia, and many others worldwide who are actively involved in consciousness research are including survival after death in their hypotheses.
They each did investigations themselves. Many of them wrote books about it. You'd have to look there if you want the details. No such thing as "proof" in this area, btw - just evidence. But Dr. Hogan would need an hour-long video to describe just one individual's investigations, and very few people would watch it. Such is the nature of TH-cam. Anyone who really wants evidence will do their own digging. It's readily available.
They're on the very verge of being able to prove it. It won't be long now, but of course the skeptics will continue to dismiss any and all proof no matter what because it seems as if the very idea of eternal life scares the hell out of them or something 🤷♀
Watch the other videos in the series. And virtually all of what we learn about life and existence comes from the statements by people who know based on their research.
@@davidaperkins4033 While an afterlife is not logically impossible, I won't hold my breath waiting for a proof. But I guess if I hold my breath long enough I'll find out for myself.
Unbelievable. Here today, Gone tomorrow.is a realist view of life. Don't you understand there is no passed and there is no future, there is only the now. Yesterday never happend and tomorrow never comes.
You'll get scoffed at for these statements. But I think I understand; sort of. Another point, one that religionists choose (desperately?) to overlook, is that their deity's omniscience blows their "free will" right off the page. Either humans have FW and their God isn't omniscient ... or their God actually is omniscient, which means there is (cannot be) any "Free Will".
@@philliprobinson7724 Interesting thought ... for myself I don't go along with it, as far as Free Will is concerned for me it's all or nothing; and I vote 'nothing'. If you are reading this comment now (whoever is) then you were always going to, no?
@@philliprobinson7724 Black swans were impossible. No such thing as a black swan, sheesh ... ... and then some spoilsport discovered a few. Hence the use today of the expression "black swan event". But for me there's no such animal, it's all (qua all) ALL rock-solidly set in time and space or ... or nothing is. No concessions, no black swans on this point.This is one or the other.Try this for a notion- -out there in the future, YOU are dying. Yes, no? Certainly there's no maybe, there's no chance of a 'no' about it. And also- -out there in the future, you (like me) are already dead. Welcome to Reality.
You have it backwards. There’s plenty of evidence. There’s no proof. Proof is, being able to conjure about conversations with spirits in a laboratory over and over again. If you want evidence, watch the scole experiment.
Camp in cemetery just for one night you will experience for sure. Talk to cemetery security guards they have usual encounter with souls. A newly buried body usually would walk around the cemetery at around 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm according to security guards I've talked to. I've saw two human souls in the apartments where I lived for 10 years. My wife saw 4 human souls standing besides our bed when she woke up at around 2:00 am. You yourself should work for it if you want to see evidence because it does not matter to us if you believe or not.
Virtually all of what we know about any subject comes from statements by people who have done the research. When we ask "What sort of evidence do you want to see?" we get no good responses. So what evidence would you want to see?
Look up Dr. Bruce Greyson (he was included in the distinguished list above). He's posted many videos on TH-cam. He and Dr. Jim Tucker have been studying NDE's (near death experiences) and reincarnation for the last 50 years at the University of Virginia. Also, investigative journalist's Leslie Kean's book Surviving Death is very compelling. I hope that helps. PS - I'm not going back either.
@@seekreality3023 Talking about oblivion again. What if your wrong about the afterlife? There may not be a afterlife at all. We just die and rot away on the ground or burn into ash. I really want to believe in the afterlife but i don't know what to believe anymore on the internet.
@@DarthKorriban139 Watch all our TH-cams and read the articles on seekreality.com. Everything we write about has sources in the afterlife that are verified. There are many thousands of messages. The evidence we continue after the body dies is overwhelming.
@@DarthKorriban139 Keep asking good questions. The answers are available today, as they never have in humankind's history. We know the truth from statements by people living in the afterlife.
All of the great discoveries in the scientific disciplines have come about from the eighteenth through the twentieth centuries. The fact that the discoveries weren't made in the last 25 years doesn't make them any less great breakthroughs.
I'm not sure that's a good thing.To repeat over and over the recantation doesn't appeal to me. Worst still, this judging and punishment lark also doesn't do it for me.Why not just let sleepingdog lay.
@@louiseanderson1505 sadly it can happen. humans exploited wildlife and most of these experimentation is done on animal and plant abuse. if they dont give a crap about animal suffering, its not right to trust them with your consciousness.
i dont think humans will ever know what causes consciousness to exist. i do believe that consciousness can be swapped between between two organisms ( such as mouse and human ) but you wouldnt know consciousness was swapped between the two if it did happen because every other part of the brain remains the same.
@@No2AI nope. If you move consciousness between two organisms. Neither will ever know so experimentations would never be possible. Plus it's pointless. Humans are very abusive towards nature and think they are smarter than nature
I know the way to the Heavenly places the Hellish places Through the tunnel the veil of death it’s not the same as the astral it’s somewhat difficult to do its knowing the way.😇jhon.
Why am I completely unable to astral project, or even lucid dream or be hypnotized? And it seems to be getting even worse over time. Other things like manifestation don't work for me either.
Thank you for your reply. Would take 3 to 5 hours tapping away on my mobile phone to explain how . Give you a short vague explanation on how to leave your body. Best to not be to tired have eaten/drunk to much taken any drugs no noise silence if possible complete darkness could place a cloth or something over your eyes lay on your back like a body in a morgue but relaxed not to stiff Don’t use a pillow don’t have finger tips touching anything don’t be too hot or cold no pressure on your stomach. Spent about 15 minutes getting completely comfortable . From your fingers hands arms all relaxed up to your shoulders head neck eyes nose mouth relaxed your feet legs up to your stomach all the energy leaving your body relax your spine spend about 15 minutes doing this if you have to move a little bit to get comfortable . Now for the next 15 minutes just laying relaxing looking at the darkness breathing through your nose with your mouth slightly open don’t let your lips be pressed together always mouth slightly open neck relaxing spine not arched upwards just general thoughts can focus your eyes on the darkness close up or look into the darkness that’s roughly 30 minutes gone next 15 minutes can go around your body again making sure that everything is relaxed you don’t want to move your relaxed but wide awake you can sense that you are in your body in your room breathing in and out of your nose think of that for a while air flowing in and out of your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed you should not be able to feel your body because you are relaxed you will get the odd itch here and there but you can’t move normally it’s around the eyes the nose can be the length of the leg your just got to suffer the itching the itching fades you may get a sense of feeling light maybe you feel an inch or 2 larger you my feel that you are floating then not floating some tingling here and there unsure if you are in your room or not your mind should be kept busy that’s 45 minutes give or take the next 15 minutes you can think about flying over lakes over the land through long tunnels even flying through balloons. You don’t think of your body to much you will be having tingling itching but you don’t move. You may get a sense that the back of your throat has liquid in it and that you need to cough or take a gasp of air your conscious and breathing but your subconscious wants to take over your breathing it can’t because you are awake. You will find yourself taking a large gasp of air if you imagine a rainbow 🌈 you have taken a large breath of air reaching the top colour of the rainbow take a 2nd breath to the next level of the rainbow then the next level you are taking smaller breath’s each time till the lowest level of the rainbow 🌈 You don’t take a breath hold for 4 or 5 seconds then breathe again through your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed Look out into the darkness in the distance you should see the little specks spots concentrate on a little speck it should move towards you then look back into the distance find another speck a watch it as it comes towards you do this a few times it’s quite a nice feeling you can do that for 2 minutes or so then the feeling will fade. Think about your body again fingers hands arms legs head neck all relaxed. The next 15 minutes you are just laying in the darkness you won’t be able to feel your body as if you don’t have one just you breathing in and out through your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed you will have a sense that you are not in your room anymore just looking into the darkness breathing will sense lightness floating a nice feeling an itching around your nose your eyes nothing else matters that itching that itching fades into a nice feeling everything’s fades your room’s gone the earth’s gone just you looking at the darkness you can hear yourself breathing in the darkness just a nice feeling you don’t feel afraid peaceful looking into the darkness You will see a blackness Pure Blackness coming towards you at a fast pace don’t be afraid of it it’s the veil of death it passes right through you as it passes you enter into Heaven you won’t want to come back You can also go through the tunnel it starts to form around you the blackness you move into it there’s white light lines every few feet as you go through the tunnel faster it becomes completely white. Will probably take a few months of practice it’s just a task don’t be afraid of anything. Okay good luck.😇jhon.
" ... the transition at the end of life is painless" ~? Yeah, sure; try telling that to any of Christ's victims in the scourges of the Holy Inquisitions, or Holy Crusades. Or victims of warfare and/or violence. As I've got already in this load of dribble I tend towards disagreeing; but before comment further I'll hear him out - he might actually say something. (My qualifications? I can tie my own shoelaces and wave bye-bye - more than needed in this topic.)
Maybe I won't go all the way and hear it out ... but while we're here, I have this lovely bridge for sale in New Zealand. Auckland harbour, connecting the North Shore to the mainland. Whack a wee toll gate on it and you'll get your investment back in no time ...
They're not Christ's victims. He himself was scourged so badly his entire body became one big wound. However, actual death is still painless, but NOT necessarily whatever causes it.
The pain people feel in horrendous accidents or when the body deteriorates is still there until the point at which the person leaves the body behind. At that point, all pain ceases.
@@crystalvulpine2314 As the omnipotent 'God' he set it all up Himself; and being omniscient He couldn't claim to not know ... so by knowing exactly what he was doing ("...not a leaf falls" etc etc) he was indeed and unarguably His own victim. But your priests will never tell you that ...
No, only a small number are basing their conclusions on NDEs. Nearly all of these scientists and many others are speaking based on verified communication with people now living in the afterlife.
In your understanding, what will qualify as proof? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'proof'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'?
@@NarutoUzumaki-om1jw (1) The characteristics of an individual whose body is dead are verified by people on this side of life as being characteristic of the person they know, (2) The person in spirit reports things about the current life of the person on this side of life showing they are presently alive and aware, (3) The person now living in the afterlife appears to and converses with people living on Earth, (4) The person in spirit tells people through mediums information the mediums and others with the medium could not have known--only the person in spirit knows, (5 ) The person in spirit is able to respond directly to questions asked by laying their voice on an audio recorder's electromagnetic tracks that play back as the voice answering the questions, (6) The person living in the afterlife gives messages in a person's dreams or self-guided afterlife communications that are characteristic of the person in spirit and contain information the person on Earth could not have known, (7) The person in the afterlife is able to give messages through several mediums that when combined form a complete message, (8) The person in spirit is able to manipulate a pencil or painting devices to create messages on paper that are relevant to the person on Earth, (9) People whose bodies have ceased to function temporarily have vivid experiences of loved ones, of events happening around the body when the body is insensate, and of traveling away from the body to other places with unique characteristics the person describes after being revived
@@seekreality3023 Well answered but yet you still got people protesting that there are no 'proof'. So, I do really wonder what exactly do they mean by 'proof'? Sometimes they insist that it has to be 'scientific' proof. I would be interested in hearing from those that keep on saying there are no 'proof' to explain what they would qualify as proof? What rules or restrictions they would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'. Would they accept proof by inference or proof by deduction? Do they insist on repeatable experiments producing consistently the same result?
In your understanding, what will qualify as proof? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'proof'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'?
@@aku7598 You are expecting objective measurements using systematic instruments but the NDEier is the instrument of measurement and he/she is subjective. NDEier accounts are either regarded as fake accounts or anecdata, then the last option would be you experience it for yourself. Extract from my response to other in another: If the demand is to have DIRECT scientific proof meaning detailed experiment setup being available to everyone and that this experiment being able to be repeated and consistently able to produce the same result, we are out of luck here. There is experiment setup in hospital in the operating room where a hidden object or hidden message somewhere high up in the room where people wouldn't be able to see from below used as 'target' for the NDEier. The problem here is that the 'target' is not going to be the top priority for the NDEier. The NDEier would be more interested in knowing what the hell doctors/nurses are doing with his or her body. The NDEier could also be in a state of confusion. NDEier can also miss the target completely as they travel about their way out of the operating room. It is also possible for the NDEier to 'shift' from location to location instantly without the need for a continous transition as it does in a physical reality. This experiment is very hit and miss experiment and certainly can not expected to be able to produce the same result consistently. I very much doubt there can be any 'scientific' proof if the demand is to have experiment that is repeatable and consistenly produce the same result. If the skeptics believe that is not what is meant by 'scientific' proof, I am very much interested in hearing from your perspective what you believe to qualify as 'scientific' proof. What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable proof? I would say for those who do still have doubts, either go and read/watch those many NDEiers accounts including OBE accounts and many different angles including Medium, etc. and use logical inference or deduction and see if physicalist view can explain them. Of course, all that you read or watched can be brushed off as just fake accounts or anecdata, then I think you just need to experience it yourself.
Hi. I'm a scientific Theist. Forty-three scientists is not a large number. Rather than cherry-picking the few who do believe in an afterlife, if you want to be truly scientific, do a random survey of a thousand scientists. I think you'll find those who believe in an afterlife make up about 0.1%, and that at the 99% level of confidence. Cheers, P.R.
@@tongleekwan1324 Hi Tongle. Not at all, "improbable" isn't the same as "impossible". There are many scientists who consider the "God hypothesis" useful. It's always a mistake to confirm the null hypothesis before all the data is in. Cheers, P.R.
The problem with your thesis is that the majority of scientists have not looked into the relevant data -- either out of disinterest or fear of stigma. If one openly investigates RECENT data, such as those presented by Pimm von Lommel, it is impossible not to lose faith in the knee-jerk response "impossible!".
@@aclearlight Hi ACL. Disinterest? Fear? Yes, but let's be honest, "paranormal" research has been so fraught with fraudulence that even if an ecologist genuinely believed there were fairies at the bottom of his garden, he'd be most unwise to apply for a National Geographic research grant to study them. It's not so much a "knee jerk response" as a very carefully considered one. Cheers, P.R.
He's not trying to demonstrate that this is a mainstream or majority view among scientists. Obviously, it is not. He's saying that here is a list of many eminent scientists who have taken the time and trouble (and risk) to assess the evidence for themselves, and here are their conclusions. Personally, I know of very few instances where a scientist has taken a close, conscientious look at the evidence and then come to the conclusion that it's all hogwash. Usually what happens is that a skeptic becomes a believer. But of course, most scientists don't even bother to look at this stuff. It's outside science's currently accepted paradigm, so they just assume it must be explainable in terms of fraud, misperception, or some materialistic process.
Just because NDE's are not completely understood scientifically doesn't mean they are supernatural, they may or may not be. It is dishonest to use the the testimonies of the credulous to try to imply some sort of rational justification. Seances and other magic tricks are not scientific investigations. Instead of trying to "lie for Jesus" by cloaking unverifiable subjective experiences in pseudo scientific respectability, why not, if you are religiously inclined, do what Jesus said: "Blessed are those that who have not seen and yet believe."
During the NDEs, patients completely unresponsive and brain dead are able to describe intricate occurrences in the emergency or operating room. They are able to describe things happening outside of the room in other areas of the hospital or on the roof of the hospital. People blind from birth are able to see during their NDEs and describe the sights of things happening in the room or in other rooms of the hospital. The events are remembered in great detail when the brain is flatlined and the senses aren't working. They cause great, positive changes in experiencers. All of these are evidence the near-death experience is a look into the other realm we all eventually enter. There is no natural or medical explanation for what happens during the NDE.
@seekreality3023 Nonsense! NDEs are evidence people report NDEs. Just because science can't explain something yet, doesn't mean we should default to fanciful supernatural apologia. It used to be common sense that diseases, like small pox, were god's punishment, now we know better. My suggestion: try harder!
@@aletheia161 That's called "promissory science." It's the practice of refusing to allow a current, valid hypothesis by saying an alternative will appear in the future. You must look at the data we have now. The most reasonable alternative for the events during a near-death experience is that we live on after the body dies. If other data appear, we would reconsider that conclusion. Until then, the simplest explanation that fits the data is the acceptable conclusion.
In your understanding, what will qualify as 'credible evidence'? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'credible evidence'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'credible evidence'? Would you reject indirect evidence or evidence by inference/deduction?
A great many of them also realize the truth of the life after this life. This is just a sampling. Still, most people today, including scientists, don't understand the reality of life after death. We are in a period when people, including scientists, are coming to realize the truth. Give it another century.
Science may not prove that life after death exists, but NDE indirectly proves it when patients in hospitals wander through the building and describe things, locations and places impossible for them to be known, which was(ere) confirmed by others.
I recently had a morning dream of dribbling a soccer ball that was so real that when I awoke I immediately bent up to look at my foot........confused as to if my foot was moving or not. I think little dreams like this prove we leave or bodies and are somewhere else.
@@_lcfiorini yes! And the scientific establishment will, slowly, at the pace of funerals, come along with the accumulating data.
Excellent video, thank you for all that you do.
I look forward to the return to my true home with joy and great anticipation. Knowing that we never die gives a deeper meaning and enrichment to this brief physical experience I’m enjoying right now. Thank you, Dr. Hogan for reaffirming this truth for us all.
Researching NDEs and past life regression caused me to believe it’s most likely true.
It is very real my friend.
It really isn't @METALHEAD550
Rubbish, do your homework!!!
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@@malcolmlewis5370 I think some of us are non player characters, especially the trolls in this world.
And those who have already left us, are here with us…
Terrific like they haven't done enough treachery to me....
Nice research. Well done. My favourite thinker from this list is Carl Jung.
I believe the spirit exits the body and lingers. How long it lingers for? I’m unsure. Maybe temporary, maybe forever.
My dad passed away and I asked (in my mind) for a sign. One of the lightbulbs blew. Coincidence? Maybe. But this was a new lightbulb replaced 2 weeks prior to my dad’s passing.
My father in law when he passed was also sad and sudden. He stayed in our home in the 3rd bedroom one month before he passed. A few days after he passed, the smoke alarm went off in that room. I remember walking in expecting smoke, fire, or dust. There was nothing. The smoke alarm had never ever gone off randomly.
I do believe the afterlife have a way manipulating electrical activity.
I go back to my original statement. I do not know how long their spirit lingers for but I’m convinced the spirit moves up and out. To where I do not know.
Some people stay with the body for awhile. They soon go on to the next life. Most people go immediately into the afterlife, some with a short period of sleep. They then awaken among their loved ones.
We have detailed descriptions of what happens to the person after leaving the body. Read these articles: seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/3-people-now-in-the-afterlife-describe-what-happened-after-they-died/, seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/four-people-in-the-afterlife-describe-their-transition-experiences/, seekreality.com/seek-reality-news/what-happens-in-the-period-of-time-after-our-body-dies/
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When will scientists of today confirm the afterlife?
They will not because there is too much narrow minded views and an ignorance that science provides a literal answer to such questions and that such a scientist would likely be cast aside and potentially lose funding and therefore their livelihoods. Additionally, Notions of the afterlife are intrinsically tied to religion and that (at least in the western world) has rescinded dramatically in the last 50 or so years and therefore far less people are willing to accept such views and therefore would raise perhaps unwanted attention on any person of science to make bold claims of the afterlife. For me, Whenever i communicate with a scientist with an abject disbelief in an afterlife, we still cannot escape the "infinite regress" problem and this is less than satisfactory for me...
It's happening, slowly but steadily. New discoveries in quantum mechanics and other areas of research are opening the door to their understanding. But it will still take time. As Max Planck, the father of quantum mechanics, said, "We can't expect the old dogs to change their spots. They will have to die and a new group of young scientists will arrive at groundbreaking understanding."
Because 'they', the powers that be in this World (for now) want to keep us ignorant. When 'they' are taken down, and it Will happen (in God's time), this subject will become known worldwide eventually and we will be living in a better World.
It will happen with the SoulPhone in 10~20 years.
When they get genuine incontrovertible evidence.
Until then just think for yourself and stay clear of vultures.
Impressive list. Thank you. I feel annoyed at some of the commenters. I hope you have thick skin, because if your channel takes off, it will just attract more of the standard atheist/materialist skeptic types. Such is the nature of TH-cam comment sections...
I do believe there’s an afterlife, a heaven but unlike you I believe there’s a hell too because there are many evil people in this world.
All people are on some stage of spiritual development in growing to have love and compassion. Those who are on a low level when they leave the Earth live with others at a low level, so it isn't a pleasant place. But it isn't a hell. It is a place of reflection and growth. Watch this TH-cam on the hell myth: th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html
There is no Hell, Aussiegirl. It is a mythology that was created by the Christian church in the first two centuries CE. You'll notice that there's no mention of it in the earliest Christian writings: Acts of the Apostles, the Gospel of Mark, and Paul's epistles. The reason those early texts don't mention it is that it wasn't yet a myth shared among the early Christians. Watch our video at th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html. As for evil people, yes, there are evil people in the world. But they're evil because of all the evil influences in the world that brought the to their evil nature. They are at some stage of spiritual growth. They will continue to grow in the next life and will emerge out of their evil natures eventually.
@@seekreality3023 Thanks for replying. I’ll watch that video 😊
We don’t have to wait for others to tell us everything. “Authority” doesn’t have a monopoly on everything.
A questions that keeps on puzzling me during this existence is: Do any of the afterlife spirits ever talk about any form of a reincarnation trap? Or is this a question which is simply never asked? Cause myself, i find this theory very much plausible.
great question
we see that consciousness continues existing on earth after death. so yes it can be possible that reincarnation is true. and if you think about it, most animals and plants are forced to suffer in domestication where they are genetically altered and lack natural selection. they also have no reproductive rights.
please understand that over 99% of animals are factory farmed and most plants are genetically modified and these changes were done without knowing animal and plant physiology. people continue to have kids in large amounts to keep the abuse going. world population clock is only ever increasing.
I've spoken to many Spirit people, and no, no mention of a soul trap. They ALL say Earth is a great place to learn and experience and grow spiritually and learn about love, and much more... Yes, it's one of the more advanced spheres, planes but it's still a popular place to come. We are not forced to reincarnate. There are a lot of good things on this sphere. Each batch of Souls come to earth to try and make it better for the next lot, but can get caught up in the Game! This is my understanding.
@@anneb5603 if you "loved" other organisms they wouldnt be forced to suffer into factory farms. and yes we are forced to reincarnate. there doesnt have to be consent when an organism comes to life.
@@infiniteworfare5089 I believe it's humans that are responsible for the shocking treatment of the animals and plants on this world, not the afterlife.
Please help me I can't astral project. Actually I'm unable to do *anything* right, and I think something might be keeping me down.
Most people can't astral project. Go through the training offered by the Monroe Institute. That is the most effective way to learn.
@@seekreality3023 I have tried everything, I simply cannot do it. I either fall asleep or at most have a dream about having a lucid dream (but don't actually have one).
Everything else to do with my sixth sense is cut off as well. The only thing I can still do is once in a while my dreams will come true. I have a feeling that some force is blocking me off from accessing anything. It's worth mentioning that *something* has my entire life pre-scripted, and if I attempt to go a different direction then everything will conspire to push me back on the path "they" want me on. I feel robbed of my free will. *Something* is controlling me, I know it. But I don't know why.
Like a near-death experience, astral projection is a Gift of the Spirit. It takes thousands of spirits to collectively generate the needed level of transcendent energy to enable the fleshbound soul to temporarily astral project.
Many years ago I was a student of the Monroe Institute and purchased the Hemi-Synch tapes.
If it were all that easy to leave the flesh, we would all take AP 101-102 in high school and fly around regularly. Avadar on Quora. 😊
Best time to astral project is when you return from you dream state where your mind is awake but your body still asleep (paralysed). This is when you can OBE very easily. You just WILL (intent) your way to the location you wanted to go like moving towards a window in your room. I don't know how else to explain this. It is like asking, how do you walk to the window? Well, you just walk to the window by intention which give rise to electrical impulses to your muscle in your legs. You don't need to understand in details exactly how every parts of your body that are involved in the process of walking for you to be able to walk.
@@NarutoUzumaki-om1jw Doesn't work for me. Even when I'm in sleep paralysis (which I cannot do intentionally) I either feel myself move but don't actually, or I enter a pseudo-lucid dream. I am not thinking coherently. Just willing things doesn't work at all.
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You are very wise and open minded not inviting any Mater Bhiku to talk in this viedo. After life and rebirth is just a blink of eyes in a no ended life cycle of human beings ignorance . It was the Buddha's own experience after uncountable death and rebirth and discovered that. According to Buddha, birth and death is a phenomenon in the universe like we saw the rainbow in the sky at different time and location. So it can not be said as real or unreal. Scientists agreed with some sort of possibilities but still can not be proved. Buddha suggested that if one want to experience the deathless. One have to put faith in his Dharma and practice accordingly. And you will learned that what is real eventually.
The only real way to overcome it is Jesus. It's impossible for us to do alone.
What's the difference between the mind and the soul?
It's a matter of semantics. People use "soul" in different ways. We understand from the sources in the afterlife that the soul is the part of each of us as individuals that is a part of the Higher Self. The soul is involved in planning the life and steers the individual through life. As such it is integral to who we are, but has all knowledge of the planning and what is happening in our lives. Our mind grows in Earth school to have personality, memories, skills, attitudes, and all the rest of what makes us who we are. Our mind is limited to what we learn in Earth School, so it doesn't have all the knowledge the soul does. The individual we become, then stays that individual throughout eternity. It's difficult for us to differentiate between two parts of us that are wholly us. But the soul and our mind are one. It's just that our soul knows all and is involved in guiding us through life. Our mind knows only what has been learned on Earth.`
From a biblical perspective, the mind is part of the soul. Watchman Nee wrote on this in
The Tripartite Man". We are Body, soul and spirit. The mind, emotions and will comprise our soul. Our conscience and God consciousness is part of our spirit.
These are mostly opinions, except person like Bruce Greyson who actually researched on NDE, OBE, and reincarnation
No, all of these researchers did the work of investigating afterlife communications and learned they are genuine encounters with people living in the afterlife. They didn't make statements based on their intuition.
All of them are opinions based on their own personal research. Some of them spent decades at it.
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Is there a beforelife for people who haven't been born yet as well?
When we are born on Earth, we begin as new individuals, tabula rasas, or blank slates. We develop our personalities on Earth. Then we carry the individual we are into the rest of eternity.
@@seekreality3023 It's a bit unfortunate to be one of the people who could have potentially been born who weren't?
@@Enzo012 If a person's life was planned, that person will be born into Earth life through some family. If the person who was to be born is aborted or miscarried, that person is born in the afterlife and grows up there. Watch these TH-cams: th-cam.com/video/gKPpq9U09j0/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/1Zc4DvlD1Xw/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/rKxjpM6VZXY/w-d-xo.html
@@seekreality3023 No, that is where I disagree with you. We do not come blank slates. We come with personalities and which are then further developed through earth life experiences. All these personalities are then carried over to the next life. Note that personality is not something that requires you to 'remember', it is just 'intuition' or the knowing brought forth from previous lives experiences which shaped your 'personality' and will continue to change lives after lives.
@@seekreality3023 So, there is no life between lives, no reincarnation? Are you saying past life memories and reincarnation studies that claim to have produced evidence, such as those carried out at the University of Virginia are all mistaken?
Then surely there has to be an acknowledgement of the existence of heaven and hell and that many people go to hell. Dead people can't communicate with the living, it's demons masquerading as ghosts.
Most of the time but not always. Samuel is actually summoned as a ghost in the Bible.
Where is your proof that the dead can not communicate with the living ?
If it comes to that, where is your proof that there is such a thing as a demon ?
@@WideCuriosity These are not things that anyone can offer proof on, least of all online!
Your loved ones are alive and well in the next life. They want to communicate with you. There is no hell. That is a superstition that grew in the first two centuries of the Christian church. Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/rVsCQiVe_Yk/w-d-xo.html. As for demons masquerading as ghosts, that is mythology that isn't even in the Jewish or Christian Bibles. It came from Islam. The demons are called hamzaads. It's just mythology.
@@seekreality3023 Sorry but you're very wrong.
Title slightly misleading. I expected contemporary scientists.
The greatest discoveries in science have happened since the eighteenth century. And the discoveries about the life after this life have happened since the middle of the eighteenth century. We apply what science has taught us from the discoveries since Newton. The fact that they were discovered two or three centuries ago doesn't invalidate them. In the same way, the great understandings of the life after this life have been in the past century and a half.
@@seekreality3023The fact that we still can't prove it after centuries points towards it not being true.
@@chirpywiggins5796 We have the proof. It is in my book Evidence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt You Will Never Die and on our website at seekreality.com. You just have to read it.
@@seekreality3023 Contemporary scientists have made many new discoveries and theories along these lines. Scientists such as Donald Hoffman, Robert Lanza, Stuart Hameroff, Sam Parnia, and many others worldwide who are actively involved in consciousness research are including survival after death in their hypotheses.
Having a degree and a personal opinion doesn’t make them right. Where is the research, the proof?
They each did investigations themselves. Many of them wrote books about it. You'd have to look there if you want the details. No such thing as "proof" in this area, btw - just evidence. But Dr. Hogan would need an hour-long video to describe just one individual's investigations, and very few people would watch it. Such is the nature of TH-cam. Anyone who really wants evidence will do their own digging. It's readily available.
Scientists simply saying they believe in life after death hardly qualifies as proof.
They're on the very verge of being able to prove it. It won't be long now, but of course the skeptics will continue to dismiss any and all proof no matter what because it seems as if the very idea of eternal life scares the hell out of them or something 🤷♀
Watch the other videos in the series. And virtually all of what we learn about life and existence comes from the statements by people who know based on their research.
@@davidaperkins4033 While an afterlife is not logically impossible, I won't hold my breath waiting for a proof. But I guess if I hold my breath long enough I'll find out for myself.
Agreed, honestly I’ve seen the other three videos in this supposed “evidence” series and it all sounds like they’re huffing some serious copeium.
@@davidaperkins4033I hate to be that guy, but what’s your source for all these claims? And I mean actually research, not just your TH-cam history.
Unbelievable. Here today, Gone tomorrow.is a realist view of life. Don't you understand there is no passed and there is no future, there is only the now. Yesterday never happend and tomorrow never comes.
You'll get scoffed at for these statements. But I think I understand; sort of.
Another point, one that religionists choose (desperately?) to overlook, is that their deity's omniscience blows their "free will" right off the page.
Either humans have FW and their God isn't omniscient ... or their God actually is omniscient, which means there is (cannot be) any "Free Will".
Hi Ron. There's definitely a past, because many dishonest people have their past uncovered, and that has a bad effect on their future. Cheers, P.R.
@@johnhough7738 Hi John. There's also the "soft determinist" position where limited freewill exists within a deterministic system. Cheers, P.R.
@@philliprobinson7724 Interesting thought ... for myself I don't go along with it, as far as Free Will is concerned for me it's all or nothing; and I vote 'nothing'. If you are reading this comment now (whoever is) then you were always going to, no?
@@philliprobinson7724 Black swans were impossible. No such thing as a black swan, sheesh ...
... and then some spoilsport discovered a few. Hence the use today of the expression "black swan event". But for me there's no such animal, it's all (qua all) ALL rock-solidly set in time and space or ... or nothing is. No concessions, no black swans on this point.This is one or the other.Try this for a notion-
-out there in the future, YOU are dying. Yes, no?
Certainly there's no maybe, there's no chance of a 'no' about it. And also-
-out there in the future, you (like me) are already dead. Welcome to Reality.
I don't want proof. I need evidence. Big claims require big evidence. Quotes are not evidential.
You have it backwards. There’s plenty of evidence. There’s no proof.
Proof is, being able to conjure about conversations with spirits in a laboratory over and over again.
If you want evidence, watch the scole experiment.
Camp in cemetery just for one night you will experience for sure. Talk to cemetery security guards they have usual encounter with souls. A newly buried body usually would walk around the cemetery at around 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm according to security guards I've talked to. I've saw two human souls in the apartments where I lived for 10 years. My wife saw 4 human souls standing besides our bed when she woke up at around 2:00 am. You yourself should work for it if you want to see evidence because it does not matter to us if you believe or not.
Virtually all of what we know about any subject comes from statements by people who have done the research. When we ask "What sort of evidence do you want to see?" we get no good responses. So what evidence would you want to see?
Look up Dr. Bruce Greyson (he was included in the distinguished list above). He's posted many videos on TH-cam. He and Dr. Jim Tucker have been studying NDE's (near death experiences) and reincarnation for the last 50 years at the University of Virginia. Also, investigative journalist's Leslie Kean's book Surviving Death is very compelling. I hope that helps. PS - I'm not going back either.
Don't worry, when your time comes as it does for all, you will have your proof.
I'm sorry. I'm so so sorry...😭
I'm not sure what you're sorry about.
@@seekreality3023 Talking about oblivion again. What if your wrong about the afterlife? There may not be a afterlife at all. We just die and rot away on the ground or burn into ash. I really want to believe in the afterlife but i don't know what to believe anymore on the internet.
@@DarthKorriban139 Watch all our TH-cams and read the articles on seekreality.com. Everything we write about has sources in the afterlife that are verified. There are many thousands of messages. The evidence we continue after the body dies is overwhelming.
@@seekreality3023 Again i'm sorry for writing these awful things. I don't want to writ awful commits.
@@DarthKorriban139 Keep asking good questions. The answers are available today, as they never have in humankind's history. We know the truth from statements by people living in the afterlife.
All these guys are from the 19th century spiritualists movement
Some are. Some are more recent.
Testimony from 100 years ago during the age of spiritualism doesn’t constitute “ proof”.
You have obviously not done your homework or research!!!
All of the great discoveries in the scientific disciplines have come about from the eighteenth through the twentieth centuries. The fact that the discoveries weren't made in the last 25 years doesn't make them any less great breakthroughs.
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I'm not sure that's a good thing.To repeat over and over the recantation doesn't appeal to me. Worst still, this judging and punishment lark also doesn't do it for me.Why not just let sleepingdog lay.
In time our AI or artificial intelligence will upload our consciousness before or at death - eternal life . Technology at work.
That, is an abomination. We must NEVER let this happen.
@@louiseanderson1505 sadly it can happen. humans exploited wildlife and most of these experimentation is done on animal and plant abuse. if they dont give a crap about animal suffering, its not right to trust them with your consciousness.
i dont think humans will ever know what causes consciousness to exist. i do believe that consciousness can be swapped between between two organisms ( such as mouse and human ) but you wouldnt know consciousness was swapped between the two if it did happen because every other part of the brain remains the same.
@@infiniteworfare5089 technology has no limits , in time anything is possible.
@@No2AI nope. If you move consciousness between two organisms. Neither will ever know so experimentations would never be possible. Plus it's pointless. Humans are very abusive towards nature and think they are smarter than nature
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I know the way to the Heavenly places the Hellish places Through the tunnel the veil of death it’s not the same as the astral it’s somewhat difficult to do its knowing the way.😇jhon.
Why am I completely unable to astral project, or even lucid dream or be hypnotized? And it seems to be getting even worse over time. Other things like manifestation don't work for me either.
Thank you for your reply. Would take 3 to 5 hours tapping away on my mobile phone to explain how . Give you a short vague explanation on how to leave your body. Best to not be to tired have eaten/drunk to much taken any drugs no noise silence if possible complete darkness could place a cloth or something over your eyes lay on your back like a body in a morgue but relaxed not to stiff Don’t use a pillow don’t have finger tips touching anything don’t be too hot or cold no pressure on your stomach. Spent about 15 minutes getting completely comfortable . From your fingers hands arms all relaxed up to your shoulders head neck eyes nose mouth relaxed your feet legs up to your stomach all the energy leaving your body relax your spine spend about 15 minutes doing this if you have to move a little bit to get comfortable . Now for the next 15 minutes just laying relaxing looking at the darkness breathing through your nose with your mouth slightly open don’t let your lips be pressed together always mouth slightly open neck relaxing spine not arched upwards just general thoughts can focus your eyes on the darkness close up or look into the darkness that’s roughly 30 minutes gone next 15 minutes can go around your body again making sure that everything is relaxed you don’t want to move your relaxed but wide awake you can sense that you are in your body in your room breathing in and out of your nose think of that for a while air flowing in and out of your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed you should not be able to feel your body because you are relaxed you will get the odd itch here and there but you can’t move normally it’s around the eyes the nose can be the length of the leg your just got to suffer the itching the itching fades you may get a sense of feeling light maybe you feel an inch or 2 larger you my feel that you are floating then not floating some tingling here and there unsure if you are in your room or not your mind should be kept busy that’s 45 minutes give or take the next 15 minutes you can think about flying over lakes over the land through long tunnels even flying through balloons. You don’t think of your body to much you will be having tingling itching but you don’t move. You may get a sense that the back of your throat has liquid in it and that you need to cough or take a gasp of air your conscious and breathing but your subconscious wants to take over your breathing it can’t because you are awake. You will find yourself taking a large gasp of air if you imagine a rainbow 🌈 you have taken a large breath of air reaching the top colour of the rainbow take a 2nd breath to the next level of the rainbow then the next level you are taking smaller breath’s each time till the lowest level of the rainbow 🌈 You don’t take a breath hold for 4 or 5 seconds then breathe again through your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed Look out into the darkness in the distance you should see the little specks spots concentrate on a little speck it should move towards you then look back into the distance find another speck a watch it as it comes towards you do this a few times it’s quite a nice feeling you can do that for 2 minutes or so then the feeling will fade. Think about your body again fingers hands arms legs head neck all relaxed. The next 15 minutes you are just laying in the darkness you won’t be able to feel your body as if you don’t have one just you breathing in and out through your nose mouth slightly open neck relaxed you will have a sense that you are not in your room anymore just looking into the darkness breathing will sense lightness floating a nice feeling an itching around your nose your eyes nothing else matters that itching that itching fades into a nice feeling everything’s fades your room’s gone the earth’s gone just you looking at the darkness you can hear yourself breathing in the darkness just a nice feeling you don’t feel afraid peaceful looking into the darkness You will see a blackness Pure Blackness coming towards you at a fast pace don’t be afraid of it it’s the veil of death it passes right through you as it passes you enter into Heaven you won’t want to come back You can also go through the tunnel it starts to form around you the blackness you move into it there’s white light lines every few feet as you go through the tunnel faster it becomes completely white. Will probably take a few months of practice it’s just a task don’t be afraid of anything. Okay good luck.😇jhon.
@@jhonthemethodical2491 This is too hard to read. Would help with more paragraphs.
" ... the transition at the end of life is painless" ~?
Yeah, sure; try telling that to any of Christ's victims in the scourges of the Holy Inquisitions, or Holy Crusades. Or victims of warfare and/or violence.
As I've got already in this load of dribble I tend towards disagreeing; but before comment further I'll hear him out - he might actually say something.
(My qualifications? I can tie my own shoelaces and wave bye-bye - more than needed in this topic.)
Maybe I won't go all the way and hear it out ... but while we're here, I have this lovely bridge for sale in New Zealand. Auckland harbour, connecting the North Shore to the mainland. Whack a wee toll gate on it and you'll get your investment back in no time ...
They're not Christ's victims. He himself was scourged so badly his entire body became one big wound.
However, actual death is still painless, but NOT necessarily whatever causes it.
The pain people feel in horrendous accidents or when the body deteriorates is still there until the point at which the person leaves the body behind. At that point, all pain ceases.
@@seekreality3023 Can't argue that one ...
@@crystalvulpine2314 As the omnipotent 'God' he set it all up Himself; and being omniscient He couldn't claim to not know ... so by knowing exactly what he was doing ("...not a leaf falls" etc etc) he was indeed and unarguably His own victim. But your priests will never tell you that ...
Based on NDEs? These are not proofs! These are claims merely claims, stories, and not proofs!
Think you need to look at the evidence pal!!!
No, only a small number are basing their conclusions on NDEs. Nearly all of these scientists and many others are speaking based on verified communication with people now living in the afterlife.
In your understanding, what will qualify as proof? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'proof'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'?
@@NarutoUzumaki-om1jw (1) The characteristics of an individual whose body is dead are verified by people on this side of life as being characteristic of the person they know, (2) The person in spirit reports things about the current life of the person on this side of life showing they are presently alive and aware, (3) The person now living in the afterlife appears to and converses with people living on Earth, (4) The person in spirit tells people through mediums information the mediums and others with the medium could not have known--only the person in spirit knows, (5 ) The person in spirit is able to respond directly to questions asked by laying their voice on an audio recorder's electromagnetic tracks that play back as the voice answering the questions, (6) The person living in the afterlife gives messages in a person's dreams or self-guided afterlife communications that are characteristic of the person in spirit and contain information the person on Earth could not have known, (7) The person in the afterlife is able to give messages through several mediums that when combined form a complete message, (8) The person in spirit is able to manipulate a pencil or painting devices to create messages on paper that are relevant to the person on Earth, (9) People whose bodies have ceased to function temporarily have vivid experiences of loved ones, of events happening around the body when the body is insensate, and of traveling away from the body to other places with unique characteristics the person describes after being revived
@@seekreality3023 Well answered but yet you still got people protesting that there are no 'proof'. So, I do really wonder what exactly do they mean by 'proof'? Sometimes they insist that it has to be 'scientific' proof. I would be interested in hearing from those that keep on saying there are no 'proof' to explain what they would qualify as proof? What rules or restrictions they would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'. Would they accept proof by inference or proof by deduction? Do they insist on repeatable experiments producing consistently the same result?
Show to the world the proof. Even a single one.
In your understanding, what will qualify as proof? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'proof'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'proof'?
@@NarutoUzumaki-om1jw ...proof means it's reproduceable by anybody and everywhere. Or it can be verified by anybody.
@@aku7598 You are expecting objective measurements using systematic instruments but the NDEier is the instrument of measurement and he/she is subjective. NDEier accounts are either regarded as fake accounts or anecdata, then the last option would be you experience it for yourself.
Extract from my response to other in another:
If the demand is to have DIRECT scientific proof meaning detailed experiment setup being available to everyone and that this experiment being able to be repeated and consistently able to produce the same result, we are out of luck here. There is experiment setup in hospital in the operating room where a hidden object or hidden message somewhere high up in the room where people wouldn't be able to see from below used as 'target' for the NDEier. The problem here is that the 'target' is not going to be the top priority for the NDEier. The NDEier would be more interested in knowing what the hell doctors/nurses are doing with his or her body. The NDEier could also be in a state of confusion. NDEier can also miss the target completely as they travel about their way out of the operating room. It is also possible for the NDEier to 'shift' from location to location instantly without the need for a continous transition as it does in a physical reality. This experiment is very hit and miss experiment and certainly can not expected to be able to produce the same result consistently.
I very much doubt there can be any 'scientific' proof if the demand is to have experiment that is repeatable and consistenly produce the same result. If the skeptics believe that is not what is meant by 'scientific' proof, I am very much interested in hearing from your perspective what you believe to qualify as 'scientific' proof. What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable proof?
I would say for those who do still have doubts, either go and read/watch those many NDEiers accounts including OBE accounts and many different angles including Medium, etc. and use logical inference or deduction and see if physicalist view can explain them. Of course, all that you read or watched can be brushed off as just fake accounts or anecdata, then I think you just need to experience it yourself.
No such thing as "proof" in this area. Just evidence. And there is plenty of that out there, if you are curious.
Hi. I'm a scientific Theist. Forty-three scientists is not a large number. Rather than cherry-picking the few who do believe in an afterlife, if you want to be truly scientific, do a random survey of a thousand scientists. I think you'll find those who believe in an afterlife make up about 0.1%, and that at the 99% level of confidence. Cheers, P.R.
@@philliprobinson7724 scientific theist is a self contradictory claim, inherently improbable
@@tongleekwan1324 Hi Tongle. Not at all, "improbable" isn't the same as "impossible". There are many scientists who consider the "God hypothesis" useful. It's always a mistake to confirm the null hypothesis before all the data is in. Cheers, P.R.
The problem with your thesis is that the majority of scientists have not looked into the relevant data -- either out of disinterest or fear of stigma. If one openly investigates RECENT data, such as those presented by Pimm von Lommel, it is impossible not to lose faith in the knee-jerk response "impossible!".
@@aclearlight Hi ACL. Disinterest? Fear? Yes, but let's be honest, "paranormal" research has been so fraught with fraudulence that even if an ecologist genuinely believed there were fairies at the bottom of his garden, he'd be most unwise to apply for a National Geographic research grant to study them. It's not so much a "knee jerk response" as a very carefully considered one. Cheers, P.R.
He's not trying to demonstrate that this is a mainstream or majority view among scientists. Obviously, it is not. He's saying that here is a list of many eminent scientists who have taken the time and trouble (and risk) to assess the evidence for themselves, and here are their conclusions. Personally, I know of very few instances where a scientist has taken a close, conscientious look at the evidence and then come to the conclusion that it's all hogwash. Usually what happens is that a skeptic becomes a believer. But of course, most scientists don't even bother to look at this stuff. It's outside science's currently accepted paradigm, so they just assume it must be explainable in terms of fraud, misperception, or some materialistic process.
Just because NDE's are not completely understood scientifically doesn't mean they are supernatural, they may or may not be. It is dishonest to use the the testimonies of the credulous to try to imply some sort of rational justification. Seances and other magic tricks are not scientific investigations. Instead of trying to "lie for Jesus" by cloaking unverifiable subjective experiences in pseudo scientific respectability, why not, if you are religiously inclined, do what Jesus said: "Blessed are those that who have not seen and yet believe."
During the NDEs, patients completely unresponsive and brain dead are able to describe intricate occurrences in the emergency or operating room. They are able to describe things happening outside of the room in other areas of the hospital or on the roof of the hospital. People blind from birth are able to see during their NDEs and describe the sights of things happening in the room or in other rooms of the hospital. The events are remembered in great detail when the brain is flatlined and the senses aren't working. They cause great, positive changes in experiencers. All of these are evidence the near-death experience is a look into the other realm we all eventually enter. There is no natural or medical explanation for what happens during the NDE.
@seekreality3023 Nonsense! NDEs are evidence people report NDEs. Just because science can't explain something yet, doesn't mean we should default to fanciful supernatural apologia. It used to be common sense that diseases, like small pox, were god's punishment, now we know better. My suggestion: try harder!
@seekreality3023 Dud you just delete my comment you charlatan!
@seekreality3023 Nonsense, just because science can't explain it now doesn't mean it won't in the future.
@@aletheia161 That's called "promissory science." It's the practice of refusing to allow a current, valid hypothesis by saying an alternative will appear in the future. You must look at the data we have now. The most reasonable alternative for the events during a near-death experience is that we live on after the body dies. If other data appear, we would reconsider that conclusion. Until then, the simplest explanation that fits the data is the acceptable conclusion.
They dont 😂 Nobody had. Zero credible evidence.
Rubbish, do your homework!
There's an abundance of evidence available, but of course those with closed minds won't care to investigate for themselves.
In your understanding, what will qualify as 'credible evidence'? What is your expectation of a satisfactory 'credible evidence'? What rules or restriction you would impose as invalid or unacceptable 'credible evidence'? Would you reject indirect evidence or evidence by inference/deduction?
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That is a real person, that is Craig Hogan.
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Thanks for the suggestion. No, it's the real me. I like the jacket. :)
43 huh? What do the remaining millions of scientists have to say?
A great many of them also realize the truth of the life after this life. This is just a sampling. Still, most people today, including scientists, don't understand the reality of life after death. We are in a period when people, including scientists, are coming to realize the truth. Give it another century.
@@seekreality3023 It's going to be less than a century before the truth of this matter is known.🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely 👍
@@seekreality3023by which time we'll all be dead and not know anyway 😂