The Problem With The New Andy Anderson Designed Wheel
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Dan im so thankful to have a friend like you that isn’t just a “yes man” and give an honest, two sided review. Love you so much Dan❤ thanks for being unapologetically yourself
I love your energy, man
Yeah. I agree. Trusted review.
Please release a version of your wheels with the graphic on the inside of the wheel. Only issue with them not being symmetrical imo cus it forces the person to have the graphic on the outside ❤
Just remove your grafic in case it bothers you (=
@@bw6927 yea lol ideally it'd still be there tho just on the inside :)
+1 for the idea of this shape in park formulas. I would love to have that option. The great thing about this shape is that they prevent the axels from getting crushed, so they’re super easy to swap out. So, making some hard versions would be cool! It’s great to see that different diameters and some 93a are coming soon, though. These will be super fun with a bit of extra wheel, for east coast crust.
I be in that east coast crust and filth.
@@someguy3717 the problem isnt them getting bent its that the top part of the thread can get scraped and ruined, then you need to rethread the axel
I have seen this happen to multiple peoples trucks so im sure you have seen it before if you've skated 15 years. you can even see in the video where he shows his axel at 10:10 that its a little scratched, its not too hard to ruin the threading.
@@someguy3717 yes and often skate tools come with a rethreading tool , but when an axles thread is completely stripped its still difficult and time consuming to rethread it.
no one has said the trucks get "bent" besides you btw
Dans a legend.. he has kept his heart, mind, body on track, works very hard, and it pays off every day.. neat to watch the daily grind.. always great stuff here on this channel..
In the 'early days of street' or modern skating as we know it, we would often use freestyle wheels as the bulky taller wheels didn't suit the 'new' tricks we were doing ( ollies, wallrides, handrails ) Santa Cruz caught on that we were using Powell's and made the Freeze Street didn't hurt that Natas rode them but a very similar offset design this meant using 159's filled out your board better and thus made set ups more functional for the times. I'm glad to see this style of design return via Andy and hoping other companies follow suit.
Just got the Nano Cubics a week ago and I love them. The shape is perfect, and I'll definitely keep riding them but will switch to 54mm once that becomes an option. A 99a version for really smooth parks wouldn't be the worst idea, they feel a bit slow on really smooth ground.
Great review! I've been riding dragons and the 97Xs for about a year now. One thing I've noticed is that the slide is a bit unpredictable when compared to a standard formula 99a or even 97a. Feels a little sketchy when skating bowls and pools, especially when jumping between different parks with different concrete textures. The shape of the new wheel is super cool though, might have to try the 56s when they drop.
Palisades Mall in NY is LITERALLY sinking about an inch a year so the parking garage is a natural pump track with boxes and curbs everywhere. Its a crazy once of a kind spot
How steep are the pumps and how you get to it
Got pics?
What’s the kick out rate of that spot? I live nearby and have never skated it before
@@anqrrwits ite when the mall is pretty dead
@@edthehuman9626decent rolls,little table tops almost. basement parking
So happy they releasing this wheel in 60mm. Day one buy for sure. Ive been asking for these since the 52mm ones released.
The rail bump was an issue with the Baby Heron board. 14" wheel base. The Heron 2 which you ride now has a wider wheel base. More in alignment with what you were on before in the 8.5" Popsickle board. Even with Acid wheels the 14" wheel base was catching.
Another thing the nanos will do is save the concrete from getting all chipped up at the bottom of stairs and ledges.another informative as always
it looks like dans getting alot better at skating since he got the AA flight deck and the nano techs. im sold. 😳
97a Nano Cubics are my absolute favorite wheels ever. 3 of my set-ups have them, and I'm thinking I may go 100% full replacement.
Thanks for the road test Dan. I just purchased these wheels for my duaghter. Most expensive wheels I've got her to-date. Great to see the review was a positive one. Plus she 'hates' noisy wheels 😆
I'm surprised you haven't tried the bones x97 on here (unless you have): as far as I'm aware they're the parkier hardness of the dragon formula, and riding them has borne that out for me. Better in the rough, still revert-able, but with enough grip for solid turns on that new-park concrete when f4 99s let go.
I've tried all three of the X formulas and I think the 97s feel the best in my opinion but the dragons 93 feel great on crusty spots and the X99 feel amazing at the skateparks
i skate these currently. absolutely love them. and yeah, i moved from the 93A dragons to these. the shape is perfect for locking in on grinds and they just look fucking cool.
Internal threads on the axles is the solution to stripped nuts. And they work with any wheel. It's basically, a screw that goes into the axle. Grind King made one model which never caught on but I'm rocking some DIYs on my hollow thunders and they work beautifully!
Tell me more… got any links?
@@antdavis4913 Sorry, I don't have a full tutorial. But look up pictures of
"Grind King G2 floating axle" to get an idea. I basically recreated it with modern day thunders. Like many of Grind Kings innovations, I love 'em! BTW, I also tried to apply the same idea to kingpins (button screwing into a standard kingpin). Worked for a while but broke after a few sessions so not recommended. But for wheels, it works great and looks so damn clean! Plus, it's one less tool 'cause you can use the same one as hardware.
@@colossalfart so you’ve tapped your hollow axle and put a bolt into it? That’s pretty ingenious. Wonder which way would strip the thread quicker they classic or yours. Probably like to strip landing primo pushing the bolt inwards rather than pulling out
@@antdavis4913 Yes, it helps to start with hollows, but i've also tried drilling into solid axles and it works well too. I''m pretty sure the thread will never strip. I'ts really well protected and not subjected to that much force laterally. The main downside is that the screws are prone to vibrating loose. Donald Cassel from Grind King said that's why he dropped the idea. Spacers are an absolute must, and you have to tighten tighten the srews and use locktite or some kind of threadlocker (I use children's glue). If you're going to give this a try, be warned that cutting threads with a manual tap is hard work and it's extremely risky. If you break the tap in the axle (which happens super easy), it's nearly impossible to get out and your trucks will be thrash. So consider yourself warned!
@@colossalfart thanks bud! Keep pushing forward
these wheels are sick i have them on both my setups now
52mm is great for a smooth park but can we please get a 56/58mm for the UK streets? :D
Dan looks like he paints houses as his main gig.
I ride three speed washers so I don't grind my axle threads but these wheels solve that. You're right: all wheels should have this sbape as an option.
This ground looks like heaven compared to the east coast ground I had to skate my whole life
I ride the 52mm 97a and I downsized my trucks one size. I realy like how they feel. Fast cruising to the spot/park and to work and also slide well.
Princess and the Pea, This dude's the smartest guy in the room no matter where he goes😅
Thx alot for the helpful review dan. Like the dragons l know these aren't the wheels for me cause l need my wheels loud. I like hard n loud 99 / 101. Thx
23:25 #ItsGonnaSaveYourNuts I'm sold.
Been riding them since they came out..idk if I’ll be willing to try anything else now haha I love them!
I mostly skate park. These wheels do exactly what I like out of any fantastic wheel
I'm a racer so knowing the ground is a really important part of racing (even if it's video games) I drift with these problems and you would say that's crazy, but I go on mountain passes all the time and figure out what car settings make being affected by wavy ground go away
Yo Dan 💪
What happened to the video quality only being upto 720?
Man you always say you suck at this and that, but ya really don't. Keep shredding🤘
pros: ur trucks last longer absorbs more bumps on the floor
con: doesnt slide as well as a hard wheel as its a little softer, but still slides
i'd prolly say the positives outweigh the negatives, calling it a problem when theres pros and cons is a bit unfair on nice guy Andy.
theyre just different, forces you to rotate better instead of slide the last bit of ur trick which is kinda good practice anyway if you skate street as well as parks
I’m watching this while cleaning my bearings with alcohol for the 5 th time 😅
Haven’t tried alcohol yet, but acetone works wonders
Windex 😂 Jaime Foy says it works
nice listening to the knocksteady "60s-70s Japanese Instrumental Cinema Funk Breaks & Beats" mix, I like that one
Riding Powell Flight deck 8.75 and 32.95, so It has a 15" wb. I put my Ace Classic 55s (9"axle) on it with 93a Dragons, Bronson G3 bearings and it Hauls A! I know why its called a Flight deck now, its all I want to do now. Frontside Airs like TA!
That park looks fun .
52 is just too small for the rough grounds around here. Riding 56mm 85A SSF G-Slides from Powell. Still kinda wanna try them though.
I already have a set. 💪
"If its crack or somethin ill freak out"
Wish they came in more than 1 size
😂😂 they do they’re literally just a small Version of the mini cubic
Dan's problem with clickbait:
That park looks fun
It really does look fun. too bad the DIY stuff was removed.
@@runamok1019 It makes sense since DIY removed about 5 to 10 years I think?!
@ryanrowe1975 dan has video from a week ago that had bench, quarter pipes and a junky handrail. Unless that was way older and I watched out of order.
@@runamok1019 It could be that video!
@@ryanrowe1975 Still want to know the location of the park
dan for president
Wish I could catch a skate sesh with you, Real shit G, keep it up!
I've owned 3 pairs of dragons before trying the 54mm 93A cubic. Two pairs of regular; and one of the 60mm rat bones. I live in an area with lots of hills and pretty rough pavement, so they were an absolute godsend for me. Fell in love instantly. After popping the cubic wheels on my new setup; I expected no different. What I found was that they were much slower; and much less capable of handling the spots I frequent than the others. I'm disappointed; but also genuinely wondering how that could possibly be if they're made up of the same exact formula. Could it be the shape maybe? Or the color? The cubic ones were snow white and the others were all an off color. I've read somewhere dye could contribute to that sort of thing but I'm not sure.
Just run Doodies for everything and don't worry about it! All kidding aside, and Doodies are no joke...do you have a vid on Powell Soft slides? I love them for the chip seal and decay here in Ootah. I'm so used to them I like them for park skating and jibbing too. Also, I'm Doodie curious...thoughts? I might build a setup just for Doodies...what even pairs with Doodies? a big ol 10" egg w/ 14 w/b?
I only mess with the 93a. And I only ride the actual🐉 label wheels, not the Nanos. I have 56mm in white and 55s in green. The slightly wider contact patch, but nowhere near as wide as Nanos
i don't understand why you title it "the problem with" when you hardly mention any problems, and there seem to be way more positives. maybe clickbait?
Been hunting around for the right wheel for me . These look prity close.
What's the name of em . Just Andy Andersons .
As old as Dan is, it’s unnatural how he is so good at skating. It just proves that a rolling stone gathers no moss
How can the lack of sound be a negative point? I was thinking about it
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Do you think the harder 97a nano cubics would slide better than the softer versions in 93a? On a rougher street setting.
You´ve made a Vid bout your shoes in the beginning, when they where new. Make a vid bout them in their actual state.... how long did they last and stuff like that, with a critical point of view, as you normaly do.
100 switch heels for a wear test. 😁
Powell is named after Stacey Pereltta ??
Powell is named after Stacey Pereltta ??
Powell-Peralta is a skateboard company founded in 1978 by George Powell and Stacy Peralta.
@@mendaciousreality8459 Powell is the other dude.
The one negative I've found with these wheels, specifically the design of them; was they sit a lot wider than standard shapes, effectively giving you wider trucks. The amount of pressure needed to rock up onto the side of the wheel changed a ton. They are very rounded, and pushed further out. less of a sudden change, but more force needed to get there. I think I'm going to love the wheels, but I'm going to pick up a bit wider deck to accommodate them.
That's really been my only complaint about them, and it's not even a real complaint about those wheels, but the ease of switching them out.
Imo, if you want one board and wheels for street, and wheels for park go with dragons for street.
If you want one set of wheels for everything, grab these.
You'd be better off changing to narrower trucks than changing to a wider deck. Narrower trucks means a shorter lever arm distance when rocking up onto the side of the wheel, meaning it will take less force than wider trucks to achieve the same torque needed to rock up on it's side. Whereas the wider board would also help because it gives you a longer lever arm distance than a narrower board, meaning that you can achieve more torque by applying the same amount of force, but a wider board has more mass making it slower to flip, whereas narrower trucks are the opposite. And changing to a bigger board will feel different and take more adjustment than switching to narrower trucks that will essentially feel like the wheel base you were used to with the other wheels.
@aequitaskiller I've been riding mag lights, which only go to 8.5. I've got a size 13 shoe, so the trucks have been holding me from moving up in size. a bigger board would be my preference over narrower trucks, but I do agree with your points.
I would be kewl if u did review on axe trucks the new lights???😮
Still rockin ETNIES 🤩
Been waiting on this video for a while. My only complaint is they don’t slide on ledges. Curious of your opinion.
Welp, that's enough for me to not get them
they slide for me, even on kinda dry cement
@@facksmasheen Dan made it look easy but I can’t boardslide a ledge with them to save my life. Not unless it’s iced up two foot over on the ledge.
@@JaGGeR- don’t let me discourage you. Andy is nose blunting with them on ledges just fine. I suck lol
@@kennynewell85nah I need wheels that slide guaranteed. Spitfires do the job just fine
I've played with my share of soft wheels growing up skating primarily rough small-town terrain and eventually settled on something tween 95-98a but still just curious about the dragon formula ones lol
Best set of wheels I ever got was some super squishy Kriptonics that I found dumpster diving back in the 90s. They were so fast for bombing hills.
@@butsukete1806I found a pair of 4x4 roller skates for 5 bucks at second hand store, so now I’ve got two sets of 59mm Kryptonics with bearings. Free would have been better, but I got a good deal.
I love the dragon formula wheels. I live in Buffalo NY and the streets are notoriously crusty, they slide good, ride good. Just gotta be careful because they slide a little too well, very icy.
Thank you again king
actually i feel like this wheel would be better with a stone ground finish and a harder core
What is that shirt you’re wearing? I want one! 👍🏽😁
Dan what about Casper flips..not hospital or whatever they call those.What are your thoughts?
I've been riding dragons for 6 months now and as they age the sound louder and slide better
I just bought the cubics 56 93a I'll give them a try
Daniel son (karate kid reference), you and Ryan Decenzo (name probably spelt wrong lol) are skate machines. I'm 41 and suck at skating but my body is good and i still got a bit of pop in the old legs... you two dudes are gonna be shredding doing NBD's, ryan on gnar, you with the berserk - everything first try, except for the most insane tech madness tricks... which take 3 tries lol, into your fifties. Shred on dude, you rule 🤘
So "Cali rough" is just midwest concrete. Must be nice.
The problem isn't the wheels, the problem is ego'd Dan Corrigan.
Trick request: slappy front crook to front smith, front 180 out. Never seen you/anyone do that sort of stuff but always thought itd be dope
I got a pair of these right when they came out because I love Dragons 93a but I also ride Formula 4 97a clsssics as my standard. I like these new 97a Dragons but they have already started to cone and I can't rotate to have better longevity. It's kind of a give and take. Save your nut or buy new wheels every couple months. I should add that I skate 5-6 times a week so I go through wheels faster than others, so they could maybe last someone a little longer than myself.
Calling 97s "soft", never change Dan.
23:27 - "Dragon Wheels will save your nuts..."
SOLD.
Why such a click bait title though? Kinda a waste...
“Protecteth Thy Nuts” - W.Skatespeare
Yea marty
dan corrigan is the sam sulek of skating
The Problem With The New Andy Anderson Designed Wheels.. is they are not Dan Corrigan Designed Wheel ?
Dan skates Andy everything
still need to know what pants those are
cool tee dan
What park is that? Great video
You look good skating emericas, just saying
I'd really like to see these in a 56mm. For us transition peoples. Lol
Dan needs a ball cap buddy hat rack
these 100% have a bounce to them. i love them for the shape but would like them in a little harder formula
Pickle ball .. ha, I wont say it 😂
you should get your own wheel you have that skater rat knowledge id buy em
Your tricks looked better with the new wheels lol
dan, or anyone, got any tips for fakie ollie fakie manny? i get so in my
head about fakie ollieing up stuff. Any secrets?
think of it as switch nollie?
@@archimedes131 i just skated this evening and used this advice, i got into it like 6 times and was pretty close to getting the whole way across our pad. super hyped thank you!!!
I'm going to put all this stuff in the bio....
Can I ask what skatepark that is?
Dunno if anyone else has pointed this out but I’ve been wanting to mention it for ages and have refrained cause I don’t wanna be a grammar nazi dick but Dan you use ‘evidently’ in place of ‘apparently’ all of the time and most of the time it makes less sense with what you’re saying. Love the vids, you rip 🤙
Whats better these wheels or dragons ?....hmmmm..???
I had a dream I was skateboarding with dan on a wide round bar that was caked with rust but I just threw a bunch of wax and sent it
I've actually dreamt more about skating than anything else this past year I started. Like, I literally learned manuals in a dream after watching Regular Jason's video of a long manual and he gave tips. Next morning I tried it, it just clicked. I also dreamt I skated with Andy Anderson and I was ecstatic the whole time. Man skating is fucking unreal, like it's changing my life right now. I rambled but yeah
ive had a dream where i was treflipping up and down a curb.... still cant tre haha
I had a dream wheels never flat spot
@inexpressable crazy how that works 😴🛹
@@nickt204its called spitfires
What's the name of this skatepark?
So funny longboarders have been riding offset wheels for years it’s not really a new thing except for trad skaters
What are you talking about 97 is not soft it's hard it only goes to 101 78a is soft like come on man be real
Love all the board and now wheel reviews Dan. But let's be real. You will die hard with your rock hard (and noisey) Acid Wheels, Swiss bearings and Reynolds Hollow Indy Mids. If it works, don't change it right?
Best trucks ever! Well, they were great trucks, (before Indy's moved to China).
Now every skater on the planet has switched to Venture or Thunder for good, made in the USA, reason.
I for one dearly miss the celtic cross. Insult to injury.
Gotta try the Slappy's best feeling truck but the only con I found was I like a medium truck so I switched out the baseplates and slapped on the Indy forged baseplates with inverted kingpin and they feel perfect now
Thunder and Venture isn’t made in USA anymore though, so can’t use that as an argument.
Just bought a new pair of Thunder lights. Says Made in USA right on them.
Indy's once did, its a thing of the past now.
Art. Pleasure to watch. 🤙🏻
What's old is new again 😉
Get a bigger wheel Dan like I have, but I am
So what’s the problem with these wheels?
The offset wheel design is going to start to cone sooner and you can't really rotate them inside out to squeeze more life out of the coned wheels like you can symmetrical wheels. More of a tradeoff than a problem, but I think Dan's issue was that he wasn't the biggest fan of the slightly lower amount of slide and slightly more amount of bounce than the other formula wheels.
Anybody skate the 95a OJ nomads? I only skate crusty ground
I skate 95A and 97A Teamriders.
Nothing but crust in the Poconos, even the parks.