This is the key to effortless power in the forehand. I realized this last week while experimenting. Then I stumbled across this video for confirmation. Thanks!
Glad someone made a vid on this. Haven’t found many. I had to discover this on my own took years. Never had a good FH until I discovered this. I’m naturally internally rotated due to bench pressing etc.
An important concept. I prefer to think of skipping the stone for the idea of external rotation. It gets at the motion but keeping it relaxed. I think if someone actively tried to do external rotation they could end up tightening up. Skipping the stone is by its very nature also more dynamic, elastic.
Appreciate another take on the throwing motion. "Elbow the enemy" is another variation but this concept explicitly defines the dynamic muscular purpose. Would like to hear your take on swinging the back shoulder forward and the 'reactive brake' effect. The Novak clip shows the back shoulder coming fully forward with no noticeable slowing.
Re-watched your previous videos addressing the benefits of pointing the front shoulder on the finish, and the second kinetic arm chain do address my question. OMT is unique in addressing many fine points in advanced stroke mechanics. Kudos
Thanks for the tip, Coach. Quick question though: since we all need checkpoints while executing a stroke would it be correct saying that once racquet's strings face the back fence we are definitely activating the external shoulder rotation? If so, as I think, that would become my checkpoint on this specific matter allowing me to focus on all the rest i.e. footwork/timing/finish. Keep up the good work!
Great question. Essentially yes. Also look at it this way. If you finish the take back and someone from behind you, threw you a ball. Could you volley that ball? If you could, then the take back and esr is great Hope that this makes sense. Glad your enjoying the channel Please let me know how it goes? www.oneminutetennis.com
On the take away external rotation is when your tip of the racket is facing your opponent & the butt cap is facing the back fence simple good luck🏆🎾👍🤞👊
That's a turn in the upper spine and NOT in the shoulder.. Rotating the shoulder would dislocate it. And Archers also use their backmuscles to draw the bow. That's not a rotation... The main movement as shown in the video is foremost a twist in the spine, which brings the shoulder back.. Anyone can check that out for themselves...
Hey buddy!!, Look like you know all the theory behind the best ever forehands , that of Djokovic´s and Federer´s. In other words that you already have revised all what this chinese guy Juls explains , phd engineer and anatomist golf& tennis consultant. If not, put in the searcher: "To master Djokovic forehand stroke (4) - shoulder external rotation" He´s got dozens of his well researched demonstrations. His channel is "JUL Tennis & Golf" I also follow very closely the awesome content of Stephen´s channel. I´m gonna get his book for sure this very week.
Definitely more power but be careful not to hurt yourself. Flexibility and good tendon health is necessary. Not really for middle aged players. Timing is also more difficult and leads more often than not to an arm-driven stroke and less kinetic chain from the ground up. Nothing is free.
The external shoulder rotation facilitates racket lag. But many players struggle to find the lag, because of too much stress or other reasons. This is a good solution for those players. Does that make sense?
Wait what ? I think this is a bad example with delpo, he has a unique way of doing this but it almost implies then that one should have that large swung back to achieve a powerful shot
Such an important part of the forehand because without external rotation there is no "wind-up" or power! Thank-you 🎾
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That was amazing-I’ve heard many people talk about internal vs external, but never seen it demonstrated so clearly.
I totally agree.Thanks.
This is the key to effortless power in the forehand. I realized this last week while experimenting. Then I stumbled across this video for confirmation. Thanks!
Make so much sence.Thank a million!
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
Glad someone made a vid on this. Haven’t found many. I had to discover this on my own took years. Never had a good FH until I discovered this. I’m naturally internally rotated due to bench pressing etc.
It's great that your enjoying the site.
www.oneminutetennis.com
Great lesson - keen observation
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Same in the golf swing some call it shallowing the club, but it is really externally rotating the shoulder.
An apparently subtle difference, that makes all the difference in the world, thanks Steve.
What drill would you use on this external rotation ?
An important concept. I prefer to think of skipping the stone for the idea of external rotation. It gets at the motion but keeping it relaxed. I think if someone actively tried to do external rotation they could end up tightening up. Skipping the stone is by its very nature also more dynamic, elastic.
Great tip... Thank you
Appreciate another take on the throwing motion. "Elbow the enemy" is another variation but this concept explicitly defines the dynamic muscular purpose. Would like to hear your take on swinging the back shoulder forward and the 'reactive brake' effect. The Novak clip shows the back shoulder coming fully forward with no noticeable slowing.
Re-watched your previous videos addressing the benefits of pointing the front shoulder on the finish, and the second kinetic arm chain do address my question. OMT is unique in addressing many fine points in advanced stroke mechanics. Kudos
Tiny details not many pay attention to.... we are going to try this out tomorrow. Will follow up with results. 😜 thanks much!
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Great
Thanks for the tip, Coach. Quick question though: since we all need checkpoints while executing a stroke would it be correct saying that once racquet's strings face the back fence we are definitely activating the external shoulder rotation? If so, as I think, that would become my checkpoint on this specific matter allowing me to focus on all the rest i.e. footwork/timing/finish. Keep up the good work!
Great question. Essentially yes. Also look at it this way. If you finish the take back and someone from behind you, threw you a ball. Could you volley that ball? If you could, then the take back and esr is great
Hope that this makes sense. Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
On the take away external rotation is when your tip of the racket is facing your opponent & the butt cap is facing the back fence simple good luck🏆🎾👍🤞👊
@@vivprice6828 that's even easier to master because it's earlier than the rest of the described movement. THX
@@Stiffjab71 think of your little finger is going to the bk to get that external rotation 👊
Great tip but at the same time the racquet should not come too much far away from left arm, isn't it?
Hi Rudy,
Generally speaking you are right.
Tsipsipas has a greater separation than most players.
That's a turn in the upper spine and NOT in the shoulder.. Rotating the shoulder would dislocate it.
And Archers also use their backmuscles to draw the bow.
That's not a rotation...
The main movement as shown in the video is foremost a twist in the spine, which brings the shoulder back.. Anyone can check that out for themselves...
Hey buddy!!, Look like you know all the theory behind the best ever forehands , that of Djokovic´s and Federer´s.
In other words that you already have revised all what this chinese guy Juls explains , phd engineer and anatomist golf& tennis consultant.
If not, put in the searcher: "To master Djokovic forehand stroke (4) - shoulder external rotation" He´s got dozens of his well researched demonstrations.
His channel is "JUL Tennis & Golf"
I also follow very closely the awesome content of Stephen´s channel. I´m gonna get his book for sure this very week.
Definitely more power but be careful not to hurt yourself. Flexibility and good tendon health is necessary. Not really for middle aged players. Timing is also more difficult and leads more often than not to an arm-driven stroke and less kinetic chain from the ground up. Nothing is free.
Why not call it the back swing portion of the forehand stroke?
Where are you based?
First again, woooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! 🥇
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This is just a different way of talking about the lag.
The external shoulder rotation facilitates racket lag.
But many players struggle to find the lag, because of too much stress or other reasons. This is a good solution for those players. Does that make sense?
@@oneminutetennis We are both saying the same thing in 2 different ways.
Wait what ? I think this is a bad example with delpo, he has a unique way of doing this but it almost implies then that one should have that large swung back to achieve a powerful shot